F1 2000 tire wear & temps.

I just did 25 total laps at silverstone. 12 on hard compound and 13 on soft. I could feel a huge difference in grip by changing the tire compounds. I certainly did not feel as much of an effect when I tried that with F1RS. And GP2 was so long ago I just forget :-) Anyway, that was totally cool (feeling the difference in compounds). Tire wear: Has anyone seen the 4 green bars next to the tires change color? I never have and I am wondering if this really works. I believe I can start to feel the tires going away because of how they react in the corners, but I never see the color change. Or are these green bars indicators that get smaller? Well I haven't seen them get smaller either. Hey, maybe I am good on tires like Alain Prost was? Tire Temp: As was stated here many times, with the tire temp indicators on the wheel turns red, you start spinning out as the tires are very greasy feeling. Yep, this is true alright. As long as you use HARD compound that is how it is. Try switching to SOFT compound tires, and you will see that you will get maximum grip when your tires are red. With hard compound you seem to get maximum grip with purple. -- Header address intentionally scrambled to ward off the spamming hordes. cisko [AT] ix [DOT] netcom [DOT] com

Where do you see these green bars?? -- -- Sven

Yes, I was running a 20 lap stint in a race at Silverstone, on soft tires. Around lap 15 I could sense the tires going away. I was thinking about being real careful for the next 5 laps, when I decided, what the heck lets see what happens if I really push it. At lap 18 the left front tire bar went yellow. The other three remained green. With all the right turns at Silverstone, and the way I was abusing the tires while experiencing understeer I expect the left front to go first. I went in for new tires before the other tires bars changed. ...Bob "Greg Cisko" <no.spam.email.for.me> wrote in message news:8dbddb$ktd$[email hidden]...

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> I just did 25 total laps at silverstone. 12 on hard compound and > 13 on soft. I could feel a huge difference in grip by changing the > tire compounds. I certainly did not feel as much of an effect when > I tried that with F1RS. And GP2 was so long ago I just forget :-) > Anyway, that was totally cool (feeling the difference in compounds). > > Tire wear: > Has anyone seen the 4 green bars next to the tires change color? > I never have and I am wondering if this really works. I believe I can > start to feel the tires going away because of how they react in the > corners, but I never see the color change. Or are these green > bars indicators that get smaller? Well I haven't seen them get > smaller either. Hey, maybe I am good on tires like Alain Prost > was? > > Tire Temp: > As was stated here many times, with the tire temp indicators on > the wheel turns red, you start spinning out as the tires are very > greasy feeling. Yep, this is true alright. As long as you use > HARD compound that is how it is. Try switching to SOFT > compound tires, and you will see that you will get maximum > grip when your tires are red. With hard compound you seem > to get maximum grip with purple. > > -- > > Header address intentionally scrambled to ward off the spamming hordes. > > cisko [AT] ix [DOT] netcom [DOT] com > > >

Hi Greg,

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> Tire wear: > Has anyone seen the 4 green bars next to the tires change color? > I never have and I am wondering if this really works. I believe I can > start to feel the tires going away because of how they react in the > corners, but I never see the color change. Or are these green > bars indicators that get smaller? Well I haven't seen them get > smaller either. Hey, maybe I am good on tires like Alain Prost > was?

I have never seen the 4 green bars change color, I think this is broken -( I hope ISI will address this in a patch, or perhaps Anon9 could help us...

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> > Tire Temp: > As was stated here many times, with the tire temp indicators on > the wheel turns red, you start spinning out as the tires are very > greasy feeling. Yep, this is true alright. As long as you use > HARD compound that is how it is. Try switching to SOFT > compound tires, and you will see that you will get maximum > grip when your tires are red. With hard compound you seem > to get maximum grip with purple. >

hm, will try the soft compound right away, this tire temp problem is driving me nuts, it is impossible to drive a full (100%) Grand Prix on hard tires, after 10 laps you lose grip, and have to pit every 5 times during a race at Silverstone. Hope it works on the soft tires.... BTW, by changing the carsetup and your driving style it is possible to do about 15 laps on hard tires, that would be a 3 stop strategy...

In article <wIgK4.823$[email hidden]>, "JeDa" <[email hidden]> wrote:

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>> Tire Temp: >> As was stated here many times, with the tire temp indicators on >> the wheel turns red, you start spinning out as the tires are very >> greasy feeling. Yep, this is true alright. As long as you use >> HARD compound that is how it is. Try switching to SOFT >> compound tires, and you will see that you will get maximum >> grip when your tires are red. With hard compound you seem >> to get maximum grip with purple.

I've been running soft tires at Silverstone testing. I find that once the indicator turns bright red, the rears spin out a lot more readily when applying power in turns. This with default setting (except the tires, 46/54 brake bias, 12 laps of fuel). By about the 6th lap, I start getting the red, much earlier than on other tracks. I'm running mid-1:25's. > >hm, will try the soft compound right away, this tire temp problem is driving >me nuts, it is impossible to drive a full (100%) Grand Prix on hard tires, >after 10 laps you lose grip, and have to pit every 5 times during a race at >Silverstone. I don't think you should be able to run a full GP on a single set of tires, at least not at a competitive pace. F1 teams always do at least one pit stop.

As for the tire temperatures , it's not to bad to have them red. Red is the 'race' temperature and you can have maximum grip at this time. Play with rideheight and dampers to keep 'm red. 1:24:915 at Silverstone is done with redhot tires :)

Where do you see these green bars?? -- -- Sven

I have done some mid 1:22's but find they always come on the second or third lap just before the rear tyres get bright red (this with tyre wear off, soft compound tyres, fuel usage off and 10 litres fuel) - after that I never seem to be able to get below the mid 1:23's. It seems there is a critical temp for maximum grip. Cheers, Andrew. Leroy v Logchem <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:8dcjjs$i7b$[email hidden]... > As for the tire temperatures , it's not to bad to have them red. Red isthe > 'race' temperature and you can have maximum grip at this time. Play with > rideheight and dampers to keep 'm red. 1:24:915 at Silverstone is donewith > redhot tires :) > >

FWIW, I went 21 laps one time, and it wasn't even too bad. You just have to dial a lot of understeer into the setup, with little front downforce. JeDa wrote:

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> > Hi Greg, > > > Tire wear: > > Has anyone seen the 4 green bars next to the tires change color? > > I never have and I am wondering if this really works. I believe I can > > start to feel the tires going away because of how they react in the > > corners, but I never see the color change. Or are these green > > bars indicators that get smaller? Well I haven't seen them get > > smaller either. Hey, maybe I am good on tires like Alain Prost > > was? > > I have never seen the 4 green bars change color, I think this is broken > -( I hope ISI will address this in a patch, or perhaps Anon9 could help > us... > > > > > Tire Temp: > > As was stated here many times, with the tire temp indicators on > > the wheel turns red, you start spinning out as the tires are very > > greasy feeling. Yep, this is true alright. As long as you use > > HARD compound that is how it is. Try switching to SOFT > > compound tires, and you will see that you will get maximum > > grip when your tires are red. With hard compound you seem > > to get maximum grip with purple. > > > > hm, will try the soft compound right away, this tire temp problem is driving > me nuts, it is impossible to drive a full (100%) Grand Prix on hard tires, > after 10 laps you lose grip, and have to pit every 5 times during a race at > Silverstone. Hope it works on the soft tires.... > > BTW, by changing the carsetup and your driving style it is possible to do > about 15 laps on hard tires, that would be a 3 stop strategy...

| Has anyone seen the 4 green bars next to the tires change color? I did a few donuts and the rear tires did - its quite a subtle change - not one second green, the next yellow -- Cheers, Robin Lord - Trance DJ & Sim Racer. http://www.oppositelock.co.uk N�rburgring and Grand Prix Legends