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Re: New effort to market GPL

16 posts by 14 people · 18 Apr 2000 - 19 Apr 2000 03:56 UTC

Rikanthrax 18 Apr 2000#277068
I really can't stand open-wheel racing (CART *or* IRL), and am a die-hard Nascar fan, but... >>>>>>>Thats cool, because I can't stand neckcar, but I do like running N3!! Rik Anthrax - - it's a GPL kinda day :)
In article <y%%K4.2592$[email hidden]>, [email hidden] says...
Quoted text (9 lines)>The good days, I'm still hoping on them coming back one day. Any >chance of that, Tim or John? > >Harjan. > >Who still remembers his disastrous one chassis race at Rouen in >the Eagle. I had been setting the pace all week at the practises. >And during the race I blew it all, made a stupid pass on John >and felt almost as bad as after my Formula Palmer test.
Hmmmmm, the only truly disastrous race *I* had was event #1 at Monza when I blew the engine in my Brabham as I crossed the start/finish line after the green flag dropped. I thought the spec races were some of the best events we ran. And no, there's no hope for a return of IGPS. My upload speed was capped to the point that I can no longer be a viable host.
I noticed that a year's subscription to Classic & Sports Cars now gets you a free copy of GPL. Clear 'em out, boys! Stephen --
Quoted text (7 lines)>In this world of dumbed-down user interfaces and milk-toast performance, >GPL is most definitely a solitary point of light in an otherwise dark >universe. >It's truly a sad thing because I feel that driving GPL has made me a >better Nascar sim driver, and *everyone* could learn a thing or two about >race car dynamics by trying to master GPL.
Unfortunately, ***'s not the ONLY area where the "dumbed down interface" is becoming more common: look at commercials (a harbinger of things to come for the rest of the world): the shots last no more than a second or two, the music is often either Thrash or Glam and the colors lack style. Look at cartoons on TV or ads in print: no longer is there any sort of attempt at realism - just a lousy stick figure look-alike. Personally I find it insulting - and disheartening. You can tell it's a shame when something like NFS outsells GPL (or even N3). But look at this way: how many 1.5 yr old programs are still selling AT ALL? Gunner
John Simmons 18 Apr 2000 13:04 UTC#277231
In article <8dhiue$7p6eh$[email hidden]>, [email hidden] says... >I noticed that a year's subscription to Classic & Sports Cars now >gets you a free copy of GPL. Clear 'em out, boys! I really can't stand open-wheel racing (CART *or* IRL), and am a die-hard Nascar fan, but... It's really too bad that as advanced as GPL is (as a simulator), it's already in the bargain bins, even though nothing has been developed (or is currently under development) that eclipses it. In this world of dumbed-down user interfaces and milk-toast performance, GPL is most definitely a solitary point of light in an otherwise dark universe. It's truly a sad thing because I feel that driving GPL has made me a better Nascar sim driver, and *everyone* could learn a thing or two about race car dynamics by trying to master GPL. -- ========================================================= Redneck Techno-Biker (Zerex12) http://www.members.home.net/jms1/index.html Barbarian Diecast Collector (420+ cars and counting) http://members.home.net/jsimm/diecast_index.html DeMONS Scheduler for N3 and NL http://www.paddedwall.org/demons If you want to send me email, go to the first URL shown above & click "Send Me Mail" in the contents frame. =========================================================
Goy Larsen 18 Apr 2000 13:33 UTC#277139
John Simmons wrote:
Quoted text (20 lines)> > In article <8dhiue$7p6eh$[email hidden]>, [email hidden] > says... > >I noticed that a year's subscription to Classic & Sports Cars now > >gets you a free copy of GPL. Clear 'em out, boys! > > I really can't stand open-wheel racing (CART *or* IRL), and am a die-hard > Nascar fan, but... > > It's really too bad that as advanced as GPL is (as a simulator), it's > already in the bargain bins, even though nothing has been developed (or > is currently under development) that eclipses it. > > In this world of dumbed-down user interfaces and milk-toast performance, > GPL is most definitely a solitary point of light in an otherwise dark > universe. > > It's truly a sad thing because I feel that driving GPL has made me a > better Nascar sim driver, and *everyone* could learn a thing or two about > race car dynamics by trying to master GPL.
Well put John, couldn't agree more, and the first company that comes out with an Aussie V8 sim based on something similar to the GPL engine, better if they can :-), will get my everlasting admiration, not to mention my hard earned money Beers and cheers (uncle) Goy "Team Mirage" http://www.teammirage.com/ "The Pits" http://www.theuspits.com/ * Spam is for losers who can't get business any other way * "Spamkiller" http://www.spamkiller.com
Tim Wheatley 18 Apr 2000 15:14 UTC#277156
it's nice to see someone talking like that john, it's called honesty, i know how much you hate open wheel, but i remember how good you always were at gpl. you took to the challenge of open wheel admirably. tim "John Simmons" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]...
Quoted text (32 lines)> In article <8dhiue$7p6eh$[email hidden]>, [email hidden] > says... > >I noticed that a year's subscription to Classic & Sports Cars now > >gets you a free copy of GPL. Clear 'em out, boys! > > I really can't stand open-wheel racing (CART *or* IRL), and am a die-hard > Nascar fan, but... > > It's really too bad that as advanced as GPL is (as a simulator), it's > already in the bargain bins, even though nothing has been developed (or > is currently under development) that eclipses it. > > In this world of dumbed-down user interfaces and milk-toast performance, > GPL is most definitely a solitary point of light in an otherwise dark > universe. > > It's truly a sad thing because I feel that driving GPL has made me a > better Nascar sim driver, and *everyone* could learn a thing or two about > race car dynamics by trying to master GPL. > > -- > ========================================================= > Redneck Techno-Biker (Zerex12) > http://www.members.home.net/jms1/index.html > Barbarian Diecast Collector (420+ cars and counting) > http://members.home.net/jsimm/diecast_index.html > DeMONS Scheduler for N3 and NL > http://www.paddedwall.org/demons > > If you want to send me email, go to the first URL shown > above & click "Send Me Mail" in the contents frame. > =========================================================
SKurj 18 Apr 2000 15:14 UTC#277171
I wouldn't say too bad its in the bargain bins, well maybe from a programmers point of u and $$ it is, but look at how long its been out. If the sim had had more support from we the customers, it would probably still be on the shelves Md hmm mebbe u said that Stephen Ferguson wrote:
Quoted text (7 lines)> > I noticed that a year's subscription to Classic & Sports Cars now gets you a > free copy of GPL. Clear 'em out, boys! > > Stephen > > --
Harjan Brand 18 Apr 2000 18:25 UTC#277095
The good days, I'm still hoping on them coming back one day. Any chance of that, Tim or John? Harjan. Who still remembers his disastrous one chassis race at Rouen in the Eagle. I had been setting the pace all week at the practises. And during the race I blew it all, made a stupid pass on John and felt almost as bad as after my Formula Palmer test. "Tim Wheatley" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:q5_K4.14630$[email hidden]... > it's nice to see someone talking like that john, it's called honesty, iknow
Quoted text (16 lines)> how much you hate open wheel, but i remember how good you always were at > gpl. > > you took to the challenge of open wheel admirably. > > tim > > > "John Simmons" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > news:[email hidden]... > > In article <8dhiue$7p6eh$[email hidden]>, [email hidden] > > says... > > >I noticed that a year's subscription to Classic & Sports Cars now > > >gets you a free copy of GPL. Clear 'em out, boys! > > > > I really can't stand open-wheel racing (CART *or* IRL), and am a
die-hard
Quoted text (12 lines)> > Nascar fan, but... > > > > It's really too bad that as advanced as GPL is (as a simulator), it's > > already in the bargain bins, even though nothing has been developed (or > > is currently under development) that eclipses it. > > > > In this world of dumbed-down user interfaces and milk-toast performance, > > GPL is most definitely a solitary point of light in an otherwise dark > > universe. > > > > It's truly a sad thing because I feel that driving GPL has made me a > > better Nascar sim driver, and *everyone* could learn a thing or two
about
Quoted text (16 lines)> > race car dynamics by trying to master GPL. > > > > -- > > ========================================================= > > Redneck Techno-Biker (Zerex12) > > http://www.members.home.net/jms1/index.html > > Barbarian Diecast Collector (420+ cars and counting) > > http://members.home.net/jsimm/diecast_index.html > > DeMONS Scheduler for N3 and NL > > http://www.paddedwall.org/demons > > > > If you want to send me email, go to the first URL shown > > above & click "Send Me Mail" in the contents frame. > > ========================================================= > >
Don Hancock ("Gunner") 18 Apr 2000 19:44 UTC#277060
John Simmons wrote in message ...
Quoted text (7 lines)>In this world of dumbed-down user interfaces and milk-toast performance, >GPL is most definitely a solitary point of light in an otherwise dark >universe. > >It's truly a sad thing because I feel that driving GPL has made me a >better Nascar sim driver, and *everyone* could learn a thing or two about >race car dynamics by trying to master GPL.
Unfortunately, gaming's not the ONLY area where the "dumbed down interface" is becoming more common: look at commercials (a harbinger of things to come for the rest of the world): the shots last no more than a second or two, the music is often either Thrash or Glam and the colors lack style. Look at cartoons on TV or ads in print: no longer is there any sort of attempt at realism - just a lousy stick figure look-alike. Personally I find it insulting - and disheartening. You can tell it's a shame when something like NFS outsells GPL (or even N3). But look at this way: how many 1.5 yr old programs are still selling AT ALL? Gunner
Remco Moedt 18 Apr 2000 20:14 UTC#277069
"Don Hancock (\"Gunner\")" <[email hidden]> wrote: >N3). But look at this way: how many 1.5 yr old programs are still selling >AT ALL? DOS 1.0? <g> Remco
ymenard 18 Apr 2000 20:22 UTC#277078
> "John Simmons" <[email hidden]> wrote > It's really too bad that as advanced as GPL is (as a simulator), it's > already in the bargain bins John... 99% of the titles that are 2 years in age are in the bargain bins. You don't see much of them in the shelves whatever they are good or not. -- -- Fran�ois M�nard <ymenard> -- May the Downforce be with you... -- http://www.WeRace.net -- People think it must be fun to be a super genius, but they don't realise how hard it is to put up with all the idiots in the world.
Arto Wikla 18 Apr 2000 20:55 UTC#276989
>>I really can't stand open-wheel racing (CART *or* IRL), and am a die-hard >>Nascar fan, but... >Thats cool, because I can't stand neckcar, but I do like running N3!! Funny. I have never undestood neither Nascar, nor oval racing generally, but I like even ovals, when I drive them by GPL, and I've also had fun driving N3 on all kinds of tracks... :-) Arto
On Tue 18 Apr 2000 08:41:23pm, Don Hancock (\"Gunner\") wrote: >But look at this way: how many 1.5 yr old programs are still >selling AT ALL? GP2's not exactly a spring chicken. Still selling here. -- David. "After all, a mere thousand yards - such a harmless little knoll, really." (Raymond Mays on Shelsley Walsh)
Kevin Gavitt 19 Apr 2000 03:56 UTC#277036
"John Simmons" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]...
Quoted text (20 lines)> In article <8dhiue$7p6eh$[email hidden]>, [email hidden] > says... > >I noticed that a year's subscription to Classic & Sports Cars now > >gets you a free copy of GPL. Clear 'em out, boys! > > I really can't stand open-wheel racing (CART *or* IRL), and am a die-hard > Nascar fan, but... > > It's really too bad that as advanced as GPL is (as a simulator), it's > already in the bargain bins, even though nothing has been developed (or > is currently under development) that eclipses it. > > In this world of dumbed-down user interfaces and milk-toast performance, > GPL is most definitely a solitary point of light in an otherwise dark > universe. > > It's truly a sad thing because I feel that driving GPL has made me a > better Nascar sim driver, and *everyone* could learn a thing or two about > race car dynamics by trying to master GPL. >
So why dosn't someone slap some '67 Can Am and Trans Am bodies into GPL and......

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