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Re: Looking for a copy of David Noonan's GPL converter

45 posts by 19 people · 18 Apr 2000 - 25 Apr 2000 10:50 UTC

Request for a free copy of the GPL converter

A poster asked for someone to share the full version of Dave Noonan's commercial GPL converter. Others firmly refused and urged him to support Noonan by paying 15 pounds. Francois Dubuc's sarcastic post mocking Noonan as one of the 'bad guys' was taken seriously by some before he explained the joke.

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Juan Vizoso 18 Apr 2000#277063
I'll do it for $29.90!!................ jv !! lol Mike Barlow <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:vr1L4.8501$[email hidden]... > I'll gladly give him my copy!! Just send me $30.00 and I'll send itto
Quoted text (24 lines)> him. ;-) > > > Phil Lee wrote in message ... > >Bill Walsh <[email hidden]> wrote > > > >> Does anyone have a copy of David Noonan's GPL converter. The full > >> version not the demo? Please post it . > > > > > >Yes I have it. It cost me �15 which was money well spent. Support Dave > >Noonan like the rest of us. > > > >Cheers > > > >Phil > > > >-- > >http://www.youpies.co.uk > > > > > > > >
In article <[email hidden]>, [email hidden] says... > Does anyone have a copy of David Noonan's GPL converter. The full > version not the demo? Please post it . > TIA > > > It's not shareware - you gotta pay for it if you want the real deal.
Bill Walsh 18 Apr 2000 15:27 UTC#277178
Does anyone have a copy of David Noonan's GPL converter. The full version not the demo? Please post it . TIA
Michael Barlow 18 Apr 2000 18:03 UTC#277132
I'll gladly give him my copy!! Just send me $30.00 and I'll send it to him. ;-) Phil Lee wrote in message ...
Quoted text (18 lines)>Bill Walsh <[email hidden]> wrote > >> Does anyone have a copy of David Noonan's GPL converter. The full >> version not the demo? Please post it . > > >Yes I have it. It cost me �15 which was money well spent. Support Dave >Noonan like the rest of us. > >Cheers > >Phil > >-- >http://www.youpies.co.uk > > >
Phil Lee 18 Apr 2000 18:29 UTC#277109
Bill Walsh <[email hidden]> wrote > Does anyone have a copy of David Noonan's GPL converter. The full > version not the demo? Please post it . Yes I have it. It cost me �15 which was money well spent. Support Dave Noonan like the rest of us. Cheers Phil -- http://www.youpies.co.uk
Chris Bloom 18 Apr 2000 21:16 UTC#276990
Dave Noonan has already given the Sim Racing community so much for free and all of it superb quality. Because of his proven track record I had no problems paying for the GPL Converter. If you want Dave Noonan to continue working his miracles then I suggest you buy the converter from him. If you don't want to pay for it then you will have to go without. Chris In article <[email hidden]>, Bill Walsh <[email hidden]> wrote: >Does anyone have a copy of David Noonan's GPL converter. Thefull >version not the demo? Please post it . >TIA > > * Sent from RemarQ http://www.remarq.com The Internet's Discussion Network * The fastest and easiest way to search and participate in Usenet - Free!
On Tue 18 Apr 2000 04:27:40pm, Bill Walsh wrote: >Does anyone have a copy of David Noonan's GPL converter. The full >version not the demo? >Please post it . Firstly, no I don't. It's fine value and an excellent product, but I prefer to keep my GPL-ing to F1 circuits. That's not to say I might not get the plastic out eventually.... Secondly, and more importantly, no. Dave Noonan has worked very hard on his product, and it's entirely his decision how (or even if!) he makes it available. If he wanted to charge �200 and make everyone who got it sign a solemn pledge to shout "Koosh Ball" every time they used it, then he could. In other words, either pay your money honestly or don't use it. Any full version posted would be "warez" - to put it in plain language, theft. And this isn't a binaries NG in any case.... -- David. "After all, a mere thousand yards - such a harmless little knoll, really." (Raymond Mays on Shelsley Walsh)
Kevin Gavitt 19 Apr 2000 15:32 UTC#276824
"David Buttery" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]...
Quoted text (10 lines)> On Tue 18 Apr 2000 04:27:40pm, Bill Walsh wrote: > > >Does anyone have a copy of David Noonan's GPL converter. The full > >version not the demo? > >Please post it . > > Firstly, no I don't. It's fine value and an excellent product, but I > prefer to keep my GPL-ing to F1 circuits. That's not to say I might not > get the plastic out eventually.... >
Well, for the record, Riverside is an F1 course, as is the new Glen. Well, ok, the new Glen *with* the boot is an F1 course. Dave, can ya teak it for us? No 60's F1 track collection is complete without Riverside. Laguna Seca isn't an F1 course, but it's a mighty fine track and an international course at least. I have right here sitting before me an R&T report of a certain S. Moss winning the 1960 Pacific Grand Prix there. Ok, it was for sports cars, but there's really little to distiguish a Lotus 19 from an 18. Just a bit of extra space for your lunch box really. Of course, Laguna is also the site of the Monterey Historic meets, so damn near everything that's ever been made has been actually raced there in some form or another. Consider it an F1 vintage race and go for it.
Alpha Omega 19 Apr 2000 19:58 UTC#276689
On Tue, 18 Apr 2000 08:35:24 -0700, [email hidden] (John Simmons) wrote: >It's not shareware - you gotta pay for it if you want the real deal. Unless you can find a warez copy. Not that I premote the use of warez, but it's bound to be available on an FTP server or binary newsgroup sooner or later. Alpha Omega E-Mail: [email hidden] ICQ: 70300233
EldredP 20 Apr 2000#276427
In article <[email hidden]>, Alpha Omega <[email hidden]> writes: >On 20 Apr 2000 00:32:34 GMT, [email hidden] (EldredP) wrote: > >>Actually, you just did - (premote<sic> the use of warez)... > >No I didn't. > Ok, we'll just agree to disagree...<g> Eldred -- Tiger Stadium R.I.P. 1912-1999 Own Grand Prix Legends? Goto http://gpl.gamestats.com/vroc Never argue with an idiot. He brings you down to his level, then beats you with experience... Remove SPAM-OFF to reply.
EldredP 20 Apr 2000#276685
In article <[email hidden]>, Alpha Omega <[email hidden]> writes:
Quoted text (7 lines)>On Tue, 18 Apr 2000 08:35:24 -0700, [email hidden] (John Simmons) wrote: > >>It's not shareware - you gotta pay for it if you want the real deal. > >Unless you can find a warez copy. Not that I premote the use of warez, >but it's bound to be available on an FTP server or binary newsgroup >sooner or later.
Actually, you just did - (premote<sic> the use of warez)... Eldred -- Tiger Stadium R.I.P. 1912-1999 Own Grand Prix Legends? Goto http://gpl.gamestats.com/vroc Never argue with an idiot. He brings you down to his level, then beats you with experience... Remove SPAM-OFF to reply.
Bruce Kennewell 20 Apr 2000 01:50 UTC#276868
Sure thing. What's your postal address, William? -- Regards, Bruce Kennewell, Canberra, Australia. --------------------------- Bill Walsh <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]... > Does anyone have a copy of David Noonan's GPL converter. The full > version not the demo? Please post it . > TIA > >
Alpha Omega 20 Apr 2000 12:07 UTC#276505
On 20 Apr 2000 00:32:34 GMT, [email hidden] (EldredP) wrote: >Actually, you just did - (premote<sic> the use of warez)... No I didn't. Alpha Omega E-Mail: [email hidden] ICQ: 70300233
Alpha Omega 20 Apr 2000 12:08 UTC#276506
On Thu, 20 Apr 2000 15:49:32 +1000, "Bruce Kennewell" <[email hidden]> wrote: >No...of course you don't premote (sic) it. You deliberately steer well clear >of even _mentioning_ it! Speaking about it is not premoting it. Alpha Omega E-Mail: [email hidden] ICQ: 70300233
Alpha Omega 20 Apr 2000 12:09 UTC#276507
On Tue, 18 Apr 2000 14:06:15 -0700, Chris Bloom <[email hidden]> wrote:
Quoted text (7 lines)>Dave Noonan has already given the Sim Racing community so much >for free and all of it superb quality. Because of his proven >track record I had no problems paying for the GPL Converter. > >If you want Dave Noonan to continue working his miracles then I >suggest you buy the converter from him. If you don't want to >pay for it then you will have to go without.
I wonder why he didn't charge us for his new tracks? He should have done. I would gladly have paid for them. The guy's a legend! Alpha Omega E-Mail: [email hidden] ICQ: 70300233
Chris Bloom 20 Apr 2000 20:03 UTC#276431
Well we should be thankful he didn't make us pay for those initial tracks. I guess it must have been worth it for him as when the full converter came out we all knew that we were getting a quality product and there was no need to dabble with a Warez version to check that we wern't being ripped off. Oh! I feel an anti EA rant coming on, better post this quick. Chris In article <[email hidden]>, Alpha Omega <[email hidden]> wrote: >I wonder why he didn't charge us for his new tracks? He shouldhave
Quoted text (10 lines)>done. I would gladly have paid for them. > >The guy's a legend! > > >Alpha Omega >E-Mail: [email hidden] >ICQ: 70300233 > >
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Bruce Kennewell 20 Apr 2000 20:57 UTC#276541
No...of course you don't premote (sic) it. You deliberately steer well clear of even _mentioning_ it! -- Regards, Bruce Kennewell, Canberra, Australia. --------------------------- Alpha Omega <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]... > On Tue, 18 Apr 2000 08:35:24 -0700, [email hidden] (John Simmons) wrote: > > >It's not shareware - you gotta pay for it if you want the real deal. > > Unless you can find a warez copy. Not that I premote the use of warez, > but it's bound to be available on an FTP server or binary newsgroup > sooner or later. > > > Alpha Omega > E-Mail: [email hidden] > ICQ: 70300233
Bruce Kennewell 20 Apr 2000 20:57 UTC#276542
SNAP! -- Regards, Bruce Kennewell, Canberra, Australia. --------------------------- EldredP <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]... > In article <[email hidden]>, Alpha Omega > <[email hidden]> writes: > > >On Tue, 18 Apr 2000 08:35:24 -0700, [email hidden] (John Simmons) wrote: > > > >>It's not shareware - you gotta pay for it if you want the real deal. > > > >Unless you can find a warez copy. Not that I premote the use of warez, > >but it's bound to be available on an FTP server or binary newsgroup > >sooner or later. > > Actually, you just did - (premote<sic> the use of warez)... > > Eldred > -- > Tiger Stadium R.I.P. 1912-1999 > Own Grand Prix Legends? Goto http://gpl.gamestats.com/vroc > > Never argue with an idiot. He brings you down to his level, then beats you > with experience... > Remove SPAM-OFF to reply.
> Epilogue, spoken by the Assembled Farmers, in > the form of a Greek Chorus: Hehe. Excellent.
Gault 21 Apr 2000 07:38 UTC#276253
Very nice! If that's original, mind if I use that sometime with proper acknowledgements? :-)
Gault 21 Apr 2000 09:37 UTC#276268
Alpha Omega <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]...
Quoted text (7 lines)> On Tue, 18 Apr 2000 08:35:24 -0700, [email hidden] (John Simmons) wrote: > > >It's not shareware - you gotta pay for it if you want the real deal. > > Unless you can find a warez copy. Not that I premote the use of warez, > but it's bound to be available on an FTP server or binary newsgroup > sooner or later.
Looks like he followed your advice, found it, and is now posting it here. I hope Mr. Noonan isn't so angry that he stops work on any future GPL gems.
Bruce Kennewell 21 Apr 2000 12:55 UTC#276304
Of course not, Mr. Omega. How silly of me to jump to that conclusion. Sorry. -- Regards, Bruce Kennewell, Canberra, Australia. --------------------------- Alpha Omega <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]... > On Thu, 20 Apr 2000 15:49:32 +1000, "Bruce Kennewell" > <[email hidden]> wrote: > > >No...of course you don't premote (sic) it. You deliberately steer well clear > >of even _mentioning_ it! > > Speaking about it is not premoting it. > > > Alpha Omega > E-Mail: [email hidden] > ICQ: 70300233
Francois Dubuc 21 Apr 2000 15:15 UTC#276210
Now I'm sick and tired of all the people that place Mr Noonan somewhere between God and Christ! The guy decided to SELL his software, so he's now part of the bad guys! I say, let's burn him with all the others! Where's the patch for that unuseable piece of crap he sells as a converter, eh? It's been a few weeks since it's been released and still we don't hear anything about a patch? We want a patch! Frank PS: My hard drive crashed, can anyone send me the converter again via e-mail? Francois Dubuc, [email hidden] Simulator Cyberworld, http://www.simracing.com/simcyberworld/
Randy Riggs 21 Apr 2000 16:31 UTC#276225
This is a joke, right? On Fri, 21 Apr 2000 15:17:43 GMT, [email hidden] ("Francois Dubuc") wrote:
Quoted text (20 lines)> >Now I'm sick and tired of all the people that place Mr Noonan >somewhere between God and Christ! > >The guy decided to SELL his software, so he's now part of the bad >guys! I say, let's burn him with all the others! > >Where's the patch for that unuseable piece of crap he sells as a >converter, eh? It's been a few weeks since it's been released and >still we don't hear anything about a patch? We want a patch! > >Frank > >PS: My hard drive crashed, can anyone send me the converter again via >e-mail? > >Francois Dubuc, >[email hidden] >Simulator Cyberworld, >http://www.simracing.com/simcyberworld/
What makes it even more difficult is that there are a lot of people that actually think that warped way. "Bruce Kennewell" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]... > Frank...it is extremely difficult at the best of times to conveysarcasm in > the printed form...usually because sarcasm and facetiousness needsto be
Quoted text (15 lines)> spoken (and obviously heard!) in order to be successful. > > Sorry for the misunderstanding. > > -- > Regards, > Bruce Kennewell, > Canberra, Australia. > --------------------------- > > "Francois Dubuc" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > news:[email hidden]... > > > > Hum... Once again, Internet's multi-cultural barrier strikes... > > Maybe my english is not good enough to convey sarcasm... Ok then
I'll > > explain: > > > > You guys are usually pretty tough critics for any sim developperthat > > comes up. So I was referring to that toughness on developperswhen I > > said that Dave (who is now a commercial software developper sincehe > > sells software that he develops) should receive the same toughcritics > > as others do. > > > > And then, I advanced a few examples, wich are (or so I thought)quite > > familiar to us on R.A.S. : > > > > 1- Asking for a patch. That one's so obvious I shouldn't evenexplain > > but I will. When a new piece of software hits the rack, weusually > > find all the bugs within a few weeks and ask for a patch. Nowsince > > Dave's converter has been out for a few weeks I was asking wherewas > > the patch. That's the first place where people should belaughing, ar > > at least smiling. > > > > 2- Asking for someone to send a copyrighted program via e-mail.Now > > that is something I've seen so often but it still makes me smilewhen > > I see someone coming back with that scheme... People find the > > funniest excuses, like "my CD is scratched" or "I deleted it by > > mistake" or whatever. I agree that this one was not ment toinspire a > > loud burst of laughter, but still I wish some of you would'veraised > > an eyebrow and smiled... > > > > Oh well... Maybe I'm not as talented as I thought I was... Ithink
Quoted text (17 lines)> > I'll just crawl under my desk now and disappear from RAS for a few > > months... Sorry Bruce... > > > > Frank (who's native tongue isn't english) > > > > On Sat, 22 Apr 2000 13:56:32 +1000, "Bruce Kennewell" > > <[email hidden]> wrote: > > > > >Oh, _ple-e-ase_.........don't insult our intelligence. > > > > > > Francois Dubuc, > > [email hidden] > > Simulator Cyberworld, > > http://www.simracing.com/simcyberworld/ > >
Graeme Nash 22 Apr 2000#276013
>Frank (who's native tongue isn't english) Well *I* laughed, Frank :-) -- Cheers! Graeme Nash
Francois Dubuc 22 Apr 2000 15:42 UTC#275963
Hum... Once again, Internet's multi-cultural barrier strikes... Maybe my english is not good enough to convey sarcasm... Ok then I'll explain: You guys are usually pretty tough critics for any sim developper that comes up. So I was referring to that toughness on developpers when I said that Dave (who is now a commercial software developper since he sells software that he develops) should receive the same tough critics as others do. And then, I advanced a few examples, wich are (or so I thought) quite familiar to us on R.A.S. : 1- Asking for a patch. That one's so obvious I shouldn't even explain but I will. When a new piece of software hits the rack, we usually find all the bugs within a few weeks and ask for a patch. Now since Dave's converter has been out for a few weeks I was asking where was the patch. That's the first place where people should be laughing, ar at least smiling. 2- Asking for someone to send a copyrighted program via e-mail. Now that is something I've seen so often but it still makes me smile when I see someone coming back with that scheme... People find the funniest excuses, like "my CD is scratched" or "I deleted it by mistake" or whatever. I agree that this one was not ment to inspire a loud burst of laughter, but still I wish some of you would've raised an eyebrow and smiled... Oh well... Maybe I'm not as talented as I thought I was... I think I'll just crawl under my desk now and disappear from RAS for a few months... Sorry Bruce... Frank (who's native tongue isn't english) On Sat, 22 Apr 2000 13:56:32 +1000, "Bruce Kennewell" <[email hidden]> wrote: >Oh, _ple-e-ase_.........don't insult our intelligence. Francois Dubuc, [email hidden] Simulator Cyberworld, http://www.simracing.com/simcyberworld/
Chris Bloom 22 Apr 2000 16:08 UTC#275966
How do you know that Dave Noonan isn't working on a patch? Have you asked him? FYI, I am led to believe he is working on updates for the converted tracks. Chris In article <[email hidden]>, [email hidden] ("Francois Dubuc") wrote: > > >1- Asking for a patch. That one's so obvious I shouldn't evenexplain >but I will. When a new piece of software hits the rack, weusually >find all the bugs within a few weeks and ask for a patch. Nowsince >Dave's converter has been out for a few weeks I was askingwhere was >the patch. That's the first place where people should belaughing, ar >at least smiling. > * Sent from RemarQ http://www.remarq.com The Internet's Discussion Network * The fastest and easiest way to search and participate in Usenet - Free!
Michael Barlow 22 Apr 2000 17:19 UTC#275986
Chris Bloom wrote in message <[email hidden]>... >How do you know that Dave Noonan isn't working on a patch? Have >you asked him? > >FYI, I am led to believe he is working on updates for the >converted tracks. > I hope one of those updates is the Boot for the Glen!! By the looks of it, Track section 50 would have to be split up. The entrance would jet off of that and then section 53 or 54 would again have to be split up for the exit of the boot. From there, I would assume the rest of the sections would have to be remade or at least renumbered. I have in car video of the boot and could get many photos for it. I'm also sure that the Glen web page has elevation figures for it. If not, I can get it from the right people. So, everything that's needed is easily got with the exception of the programmer to do it.
Bruce Kennewell 22 Apr 2000 19:06 UTC#276057
Oh, _ple-e-ase_.........don't insult our intelligence. -- Regards, Bruce Kennewell, Canberra, Australia. --------------------------- "Francois Dubuc" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]... > > Now I'm sick and tired of all the people that place Mr Noonan > somewhere between God and Christ! > > The guy decided to SELL his software, so he's now part of the bad > guys! I say, let's burn him with all the others! > > Where's the patch for that unuseable piece of crap he sells as a > converter, eh? It's been a few weeks since it's been released and > still we don't hear anything about a patch? We want a patch! > > Frank > > PS: My hard drive crashed, can anyone send me the converter again via > e-mail? > > Francois Dubuc, > [email hidden] > Simulator Cyberworld, > http://www.simracing.com/simcyberworld/
Don Scurlock 22 Apr 2000 19:47 UTC#276009
[email hidden] ("Francois Dubuc") wrote in <[email hidden]>: >Hum... Once again, Internet's multi-cultural barrier strikes... >Maybe my english is not good enough to convey sarcasm... Ok then I'll >explain: If it makes you feel any better, I recognized it for what it was. But you do need to be careful when speaking of the Gods, remember what happened to Salman Rushdie. -- Don Scurlock Vancouver,B.C.
Chris Bloom 22 Apr 2000 22:10 UTC#276036
I think he is working on correcting the AI bugs. I'm not completely sure though. Chris In article <oalM4.10042$[email hidden]>, "Mike Barlow" <[email hidden]> wrote: > > >Chris Bloom wrote in message ><[email hidden]>... >>How do you know that Dave Noonan isn't working on a patch?Have
Quoted text (7 lines)>>you asked him? >> >>FYI, I am led to believe he is working on updates for the >>converted tracks. >> > > I hope one of those updates is the Boot for the Glen!! By
the looks of >it, Track section 50 would have to be split up. The entrancewould jet off >of that and then section 53 or 54 would again have to be splitup for the >exit of the boot. From there, I would assume the rest of thesections would >have to be remade or at least renumbered. I have in car videoof the boot >and could get many photos for it. I'm also sure that the Glenweb page has >elevation figures for it. If not, I can get it from the rightpeople. So, >everything that's needed is easily got with the exception ofthe programmer >to do it. > > > > * Sent from RemarQ http://www.remarq.com The Internet's Discussion Network * The fastest and easiest way to search and participate in Usenet - Free!
Francois Dubuc 23 Apr 2000 02:36 UTC#275857
Chris, Nowhere did I say anything about Dave working or not working on a patch... But from his previous work, I wouldn't hold my breath as he usually starts working on new stuff immediately after he releases something... But hey, we never know! I don't really know if there are any bugs tho since I can't race right now due to a steering wheel failure... I'm scared I'll lose my (already not so great) skills at driving a GPL car! Frank On Sat, 22 Apr 2000 08:57:57 -0700, Chris Bloom <[email hidden]> wrote:
Quoted text (28 lines)>How do you know that Dave Noonan isn't working on a patch? Have >you asked him? > >FYI, I am led to believe he is working on updates for the >converted tracks. > >Chris > >In article <[email hidden]>, >[email hidden] ("Francois Dubuc") wrote: >> >> >>1- Asking for a patch. That one's so obvious I shouldn't even >explain >>but I will. When a new piece of software hits the rack, we >usually >>find all the bugs within a few weeks and ask for a patch. Now >since >>Dave's converter has been out for a few weeks I was asking >where was >>the patch. That's the first place where people should be >laughing, ar >>at least smiling. >> > > >* Sent from RemarQ http://www.remarq.com The Internet's Discussion Network * >The fastest and easiest way to search and participate in Usenet - Free!
Francois Dubuc, [email hidden] Simulator Cyberworld, http://www.simracing.com/simcyberworld/
Francois Dubuc 23 Apr 2000 02:42 UTC#275859
I try to be... <G> Err... Long live Dave Noonan! Frank On Sat, 22 Apr 2000 19:47:50 GMT, [email hidden] (Don Scurlock) wrote:
Quoted text (11 lines)>[email hidden] ("Francois Dubuc") wrote in ><[email hidden]>: > > >>Hum... Once again, Internet's multi-cultural barrier strikes... >>Maybe my english is not good enough to convey sarcasm... Ok then I'll >>explain: > >If it makes you feel any better, I recognized it for what it was. But you do >need to be careful when speaking of the Gods, remember what happened to Salman >Rushdie.
Francois Dubuc, [email hidden] Simulator Cyberworld, http://www.simracing.com/simcyberworld/
Francois Dubuc 23 Apr 2000 02:45 UTC#275861
Thanks! Makes me feel better! Frank On Sat, 22 Apr 2000 21:21:17 +0100, Graeme Nash <[email hidden]> wrote: > >>Frank (who's native tongue isn't english) > >Well *I* laughed, Frank :-) Francois Dubuc, [email hidden] Simulator Cyberworld, http://www.simracing.com/simcyberworld/
Francois Dubuc 23 Apr 2000 02:50 UTC#275862
If you knew me you'd know that I'm a very sarcastic and facetious dude... But next time I'll use the html tags, you know, the <sarcasm> and </sarcasm> tags... That should do it! Now c'mon Bruce, beer's on me! Frank On Sun, 23 Apr 2000 09:27:29 +1000, "Bruce Kennewell" <[email hidden]> wrote: >Frank...it is extremely difficult at the best of times to convey sarcasm in >the printed form...usually because sarcasm and facetiousness needs to be >spoken (and obviously heard!) in order to be successful. > >Sorry for the misunderstanding. Francois Dubuc, [email hidden] Simulator Cyberworld, http://www.simracing.com/simcyberworld/
Chris Bloom 23 Apr 2000 10:56 UTC#275805
Sorry Francois, I was even more stupid as I didn't even get it after your second post. :' Chris * Sent from RemarQ http://www.remarq.com The Internet's Discussion Network * The fastest and easiest way to search and participate in Usenet - Free!
Bruce Kennewell 23 Apr 2000 14:34 UTC#275935
Frank...it is extremely difficult at the best of times to convey sarcasm in the printed form...usually because sarcasm and facetiousness needs to be spoken (and obviously heard!) in order to be successful. Sorry for the misunderstanding. -- Regards, Bruce Kennewell, Canberra, Australia. --------------------------- "Francois Dubuc" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]... > > Hum... Once again, Internet's multi-cultural barrier strikes... > Maybe my english is not good enough to convey sarcasm... Ok then I'll > explain: > > You guys are usually pretty tough critics for any sim developper that > comes up. So I was referring to that toughness on developpers when I > said that Dave (who is now a commercial software developper since he > sells software that he develops) should receive the same tough critics > as others do. > > And then, I advanced a few examples, wich are (or so I thought) quite > familiar to us on R.A.S. : > > 1- Asking for a patch. That one's so obvious I shouldn't even explain > but I will. When a new piece of software hits the rack, we usually > find all the bugs within a few weeks and ask for a patch. Now since > Dave's converter has been out for a few weeks I was asking where was > the patch. That's the first place where people should be laughing, ar > at least smiling. > > 2- Asking for someone to send a copyrighted program via e-mail. Now > that is something I've seen so often but it still makes me smile when > I see someone coming back with that scheme... People find the > funniest excuses, like "my CD is scratched" or "I deleted it by > mistake" or whatever. I agree that this one was not ment to inspire a > loud burst of laughter, but still I wish some of you would've raised > an eyebrow and smiled... > > Oh well... Maybe I'm not as talented as I thought I was... I think > I'll just crawl under my desk now and disappear from RAS for a few > months... Sorry Bruce... > > Frank (who's native tongue isn't english) > > On Sat, 22 Apr 2000 13:56:32 +1000, "Bruce Kennewell" > <[email hidden]> wrote: > > >Oh, _ple-e-ase_.........don't insult our intelligence. > > > Francois Dubuc, > [email hidden] > Simulator Cyberworld, > http://www.simracing.com/simcyberworld/
Bruce Kennewell 24 Apr 2000 01:33 UTC#275803
Yes....and that doesn't make it any easier, Tracey! -- Regards, Bruce Kennewell, Canberra, Australia. --------------------------- Tracey A Miller <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:39026af8$0$[email hidden]... > What makes it even more difficult is that there are a lot of people > that actually think that warped way. > > > "Bruce Kennewell" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > news:[email hidden]... > > Frank...it is extremely difficult at the best of times to convey > sarcasm in > > the printed form...usually because sarcasm and facetiousness needs > to be > > spoken (and obviously heard!) in order to be successful. > > > > Sorry for the misunderstanding. > > > > -- > > Regards, > > Bruce Kennewell, > > Canberra, Australia. > > --------------------------- > > > > "Francois Dubuc" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > > news:[email hidden]... > > > > > > Hum... Once again, Internet's multi-cultural barrier strikes... > > > Maybe my english is not good enough to convey sarcasm... Ok then > I'll > > > explain: > > > > > > You guys are usually pretty tough critics for any sim developper > that > > > comes up. So I was referring to that toughness on developpers > when I > > > said that Dave (who is now a commercial software developper since > he > > > sells software that he develops) should receive the same tough > critics > > > as others do. > > > > > > And then, I advanced a few examples, wich are (or so I thought) > quite > > > familiar to us on R.A.S. : > > > > > > 1- Asking for a patch. That one's so obvious I shouldn't even > explain > > > but I will. When a new piece of software hits the rack, we > usually > > > find all the bugs within a few weeks and ask for a patch. Now > since > > > Dave's converter has been out for a few weeks I was asking where > was > > > the patch. That's the first place where people should be > laughing, ar > > > at least smiling. > > > > > > 2- Asking for someone to send a copyrighted program via e-mail. > Now > > > that is something I've seen so often but it still makes me smile > when > > > I see someone coming back with that scheme... People find the > > > funniest excuses, like "my CD is scratched" or "I deleted it by > > > mistake" or whatever. I agree that this one was not ment to > inspire a > > > loud burst of laughter, but still I wish some of you would've > raised > > > an eyebrow and smiled... > > > > > > Oh well... Maybe I'm not as talented as I thought I was... I > think > > > I'll just crawl under my desk now and disappear from RAS for a few > > > months... Sorry Bruce... > > > > > > Frank (who's native tongue isn't english) > > > > > > On Sat, 22 Apr 2000 13:56:32 +1000, "Bruce Kennewell" > > > <[email hidden]> wrote: > > > > > > >Oh, _ple-e-ase_.........don't insult our intelligence. > > > > > > > > > Francois Dubuc, > > > [email hidden] > > > Simulator Cyberworld, > > > http://www.simracing.com/simcyberworld/ > > > > > >
Goy Larsen 25 Apr 2000 10:50 UTC#275405
Francois Dubuc wrote:
Quoted text (10 lines)> > Chris, > > Nowhere did I say anything about Dave working or not working on a > patch... But from his previous work, I wouldn't hold my breath as he > usually starts working on new stuff immediately after he releases > something... But hey, we never know! I don't really know if there > are any bugs tho since I can't race right now due to a steering wheel > failure... I'm scared I'll lose my (already not so great) skills at > driving a GPL car!
This is not to say that he is working on a patch, I don't know whether or not he is, but for his ICR2->N2 converter he released some AI updates, so to say he don't improve on his already released products isn't totally accurate :-) Beers and cheers (uncle) Goy "Team Mirage" http://www.teammirage.com/ "The Pits" http://www.theuspits.com/ * Spam is for losers who can't get business any other way * "Spamkiller" http://www.spamkiller.com

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