Re: Junior GPL

In article <hr2L4.642$[email hidden]>, "Tony Rickard" <[email hidden]> wrote: > I finally caved in and let my 10 year old son loose on VROC. > > Mikey (M. Rickard) set a PB of 1:29.82 in a Ferrari at Monza on-linethis > evening - good enough for a front row grid position :) > > Unfortunately his racing etiquette needs needs developing - just silly > errors rather than blatant over aggression. > > So I wondered if there were other GPL kids out there, alternatively aserver > devoted to novices. I don't want to dampen his enthusiasm but equallydon't > want to upset any VROC die hards he might tangle up with. > > Anyone else in a similar position? My son who's just turned 4 occasionally likes to play "racing cars" on the computer - either "racing cars" GPL or "racing cars with roofs on" (i.e. N3 demo). As for PB ... well, getting all the way around the track would be an achievement when its so much more exciting to drive into walls etc or decide to backtrack a bit because it looks more interesting that way :-) Anyway current big excitement is that he got a toy Nascar car for his birthday (Jeff Gordon 24 to be precise) and he can see "my car" on the computer. Slightly concerned with his keen-ness on Nascar (and worse Nascar Trucks :-) but at least he was able to recognise a Ferrari on TV coverage of F1 GPs at the age of 2 so perhaps there's still hope :-) As for 10-year olds doing 1:29 at Monza .... aaaargh! I think it will take me another 10 years to get to that point :-) Sent via Deja.com http://www.deja.com/ Before you buy.

I finally caved in and let my 10 year old son loose on VROC. Mikey (M. Rickard) set a PB of 1:29.82 in a Ferrari at Monza on-line this evening - good enough for a front row grid position :) Unfortunately his racing etiquette needs needs developing - just silly errors rather than blatant over aggression. So I wondered if there were other GPL kids out there, alternatively a server devoted to novices. I don't want to dampen his enthusiasm but equally don't want to upset any VROC die hards he might tangle up with. Anyone else in a similar position? Cheers Tony

"Tony Rickard" <[email hidden]> wrote > Mikey (M. Rickard) set a PB of 1:29.82 in a Ferrari at Monza on-line this > evening - good enough for a front row grid position :) Oh gosh... At least my excuse to have a slower laptime with the Ferrari there is that I HATE the car ;-D -- -- Fran�ois M�nard <ymenard> -- May the Downforce be with you... -- http://www.WeRace.net -- People think it must be fun to be a super genius, but they don't realise how hard it is to put up with all the idiots in the world.

> I finally caved in and let my 10 year old son loose on VROC. > > Mikey (M. Rickard) set a PB of 1:29.82 in a Ferrari at Monza on-line this > evening - good enough for a front row grid position :) > Wow!! That 10 year old will make a lot of grown men cry :-) Don't let the kid drive the Lotus.... Jon

i think more of a point is the number of guys that would really hate to get their asses kicked by a 10 yo Shane Tony Rickard <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:hr2L4.642$[email hidden]...

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> I finally caved in and let my 10 year old son loose on VROC. > > Mikey (M. Rickard) set a PB of 1:29.82 in a Ferrari at Monza on-line this > evening - good enough for a front row grid position :) > > Unfortunately his racing etiquette needs needs developing - just silly > errors rather than blatant over aggression. > > So I wondered if there were other GPL kids out there, alternatively a

server > devoted to novices. I don't want to dampen his enthusiasm but equallydon't

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> want to upset any VROC die hards he might tangle up with. > > Anyone else in a similar position? > > Cheers > > Tony > >

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> > > > > Anyone else in a similar position? > > My son who's just turned 4 occasionally likes to play "racing cars" on > the computer - either "racing cars" GPL or "racing cars with roofs on" > (i.e. N3 demo). As for PB ... well, getting all the way around the track > would be an achievement when its so much more exciting to drive into > walls etc or decide to backtrack a bit because it looks more interesting > that way :-) > > Anyway current big excitement is that he got a toy Nascar car for his > birthday (Jeff Gordon 24 to be precise) and he can see "my car" on the > computer. Slightly concerned with his keen-ness on Nascar (and worse > Nascar Trucks :-) but at least he was able to recognise a Ferrari on TV > coverage of F1 GPs at the age of 2 so perhaps there's still hope :-)

How can he recognize the Ferrari's with that Gawd Awful Orange Paintjob?? > > As for 10-year olds doing 1:29 at Monza .... aaaargh! I think it will > take me another 10 years to get to that point :-) Does the Mafia take contracts on Ten year Olds??? dave (slower than Eldred) henrie > > Sent via Deja.com http://www.deja.com/ > Before you buy.

In article <hr2L4.642$[email hidden]>, "Tony Rickard" <[email hidden]> writes:

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>I finally caved in and let my 10 year old son loose on VROC. > >Mikey (M. Rickard) set a PB of 1:29.82 in a Ferrari at Monza on-line this >evening - good enough for a front row grid position :) > >Unfortunately his racing etiquette needs needs developing - just silly >errors rather than blatant over aggression. > >So I wondered if there were other GPL kids out there, alternatively a server >devoted to novices. I don't want to dampen his enthusiasm but equally don't >want to upset any VROC die hards he might tangle up with. > >Anyone else in a similar position? > >Cheers > >Tony

Tell me you're kidding...your *10* year old has a PB of 1:29.82?!? I better stop replying - any further comments I might make would be unsuitable for his hears(eyes)... :-) Eldred p.s. if there's enough call for a 'kiddie server', let me know. I could arrange that... I just couldn't keep UP with them, apparently...<sigh> -- Tiger Stadium R.I.P. 1912-1999 Own Grand Prix Legends? Goto http://gpl.gamestats.com/vroc Never argue with an idiot. He brings you down to his level, then beats you with experience... Remove SPAM-OFF to reply.

In article <[email hidden]>, Dave Henrie <[email hidden]> writes:

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>> >> As for 10-year olds doing 1:29 at Monza .... aaaargh! I think it will >> take me another 10 years to get to that point :-) > > Does the Mafia take contracts on Ten year Olds??? >dave (slower than Eldred) henrie >

Gee thanks, Dave...<g> Eldred -- Tiger Stadium R.I.P. 1912-1999 Own Grand Prix Legends? Goto http://gpl.gamestats.com/vroc Never argue with an idiot. He brings you down to his level, then beats you with experience... Remove SPAM-OFF to reply.

nvr broke 30 in the red car at Monza and i 3x his age +( Md Dave Henrie wrote:

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> > [email hidden] wrote: > > > > > > > > > Anyone else in a similar position? > > > > My son who's just turned 4 occasionally likes to play "racing cars" on > > the computer - either "racing cars" GPL or "racing cars with roofs on" > > (i.e. N3 demo). As for PB ... well, getting all the way around the track > > would be an achievement when its so much more exciting to drive into > > walls etc or decide to backtrack a bit because it looks more interesting > > that way :-) > > > > Anyway current big excitement is that he got a toy Nascar car for his > > birthday (Jeff Gordon 24 to be precise) and he can see "my car" on the > > computer. Slightly concerned with his keen-ness on Nascar (and worse > > Nascar Trucks :-) but at least he was able to recognise a Ferrari on TV > > coverage of F1 GPs at the age of 2 so perhaps there's still hope :-) > > How can he recognize the Ferrari's with that Gawd Awful Orange > Paintjob?? > > > > > As for 10-year olds doing 1:29 at Monza .... aaaargh! I think it will > > take me another 10 years to get to that point :-) > > Does the Mafia take contracts on Ten year Olds??? > dave (slower than Eldred) henrie > > > > > Sent via Deja.com http://www.deja.com/ > > Before you buy.

"Shane Lowry" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:8din22$3o7$[email hidden]... > i think more of a point is the number of guys that would really hate toget > their asses kicked by a 10 yo > > Shane > >As a point of interest, a certain gentleman by the name of Foyt won his first midget dirt oval race in a match duel against the track champion, when he was 5! Talk about a grown man crying.

thats is a good one... Guess it goes to show that some of us hooman's will never be able to touch them aliens out there on the track, so take heart gents!! and don't even compare yerselvs. Just resign yerself to a life of mediocrity! Md kevingav wrote:

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> > "Shane Lowry" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > news:8din22$3o7$[email hidden]... > > i think more of a point is the number of guys that would really hate to > get > > their asses kicked by a 10 yo > > > > Shane > > > > > As a point of interest, a certain gentleman by the name of Foyt won his > first midget dirt oval race in a match duel against the track champion, when > he was 5! > > Talk about a grown man crying.

The intention wasn't to brag about my lad's lap times - although I guess I am a little proud :-). More to try to figure how a young lad would fit in to the "adult" world of semi serious sim racing compared to arcade gaming. Inevitably his race maturity is lacking. My concern is that he might get tangled up and ruin someone else's race - for which I have to have a high degree of responsibility by allowing him to join. The second concern is that VROC is assumed to be an adult arena, do we really want kids joining in? Hence the question of whether there are other youngsters around who could join specific races. I have been surprised at Mikey's performance in GPL - I didn't expect a kid to be able to master GPL to that level, what has surprised me is his persistence in going through the pain of the learning curve, something kids tend not to do. If he could put as much effort into school... Of course it leaves me a shade disappointed. GPL is the only computer game left I can beat him. Gran Tourismo I can accept (can't master a joypad to drive a car). Unreal Tournament (too slow on the fire button). Fifa99 (controls again - haven't played since losing 9-0). TOCA2 (must be arcade if he can beat me!). But GPL is an adult game - my years of driving experience and knowledge of motor racing will always beat a young kid who lacks such experience. Or so I thought.... Mind you it wouldn't be the first time I was beaten at GPL by a driver yet to pass his test. Perhaps Mikey is my long term revenge for a certain G.Nash! Anyway - if Eldred has sufficient demand for the "kiddie" server I wonder how many adults here will lie about their age - just to make sure they can beat them! Cheers Tony "EldredP" wrote > > Tell me you're kidding...your *10* year old has a PB of 1:29.82?!? Ibetter > stop replying - any further comments I might make would be unsuitable forhis > hears(eyes)... :-) > > Eldred > p.s. if there's enough call for a 'kiddie server', let me know. I could > arrange that... I just couldn't keep UP with them, apparently...<sigh> > --

"Tony Rickard" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:evmL4.567$[email hidden]... The second concern is that > VROC is assumed to be an adult arena, do we really want kids joining in? > Hence the question of whether there are other youngsters around who could > join specific races. This would be my concern as a parent Tony. If the kid has racing ability, which by all acounts he is, I'm sure he would aquit himself at least as well as the many idiots whose manners leave a lot to be desired. However, If it was my boy racing, I'd be inclined to ensure that the chat function is not running when he is looking for races. We all know that VROC indulges in some colourful topics and choice of vocabulary all to often these days. Regards MS BTW. Yes I am guilty of the aforementioned indulgences from time to time. However, as you say, It's generally regarded as an adult domain.

>Mind you it wouldn't be the first time I was beaten at GPL by a driver yet >to pass his test. Perhaps Mikey is my long term revenge for a certain >G.Nash! Muhahahahaha :-) Well I guess now that I *have* passed I'm a prime target for a 10-year- old around Monza.. Although I did recently run my first 1m27 in the Ferrari :-) -- Cheers! Graeme Nash

i wanna race your kid... im 16 but i was sim racing when i was around 10 too (i was winning races in f1gp on the pro level or whatever that one was before ace) did you ever think about putting your kid in a kart? theres lots of 7-12 year olds racing 80cc comer powered go-karts how does he do on the other tracks? oh yea... and what YOUR PB at monza :)

"PoPaxSmuRF" wrote > i wanna race your kid... im 16 but i was sim racing when i was around 10too (i > was winning races in f1gp on the pro level or whatever that one was beforeace) Sure - we could arrange a convenient time on VROC and drop in on a dedicated server E-mail me or post to the group if you think others may be interested. > did you ever think about putting your kid in a kart? theres lots of 7-12year > olds racing 80cc comer powered go-karts He has had a couple of runs on indoor circuits - did ok, but no racing was allowed for his age group. I do need to sort something more serious out for him > how does he do on the other tracks? Watkins Glen 1:07s. That & Monza are all he has really spent any time on. > oh yea... and what YOUR PB at monza :) Hmmm :) mid 1:28s in Lotus but only low 1:29s in Ferrari :( Guess it is time to practice! Cheers Tony

Tony Rickard <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:evmL4.567$[email hidden]... > The intention wasn't to brag about my lad's lap times - although I guess I > am a little proud :-). More to try to figure how a young lad would fit into > the "adult" world of semi serious sim racing compared to arcade gaming. > <snip> Whoah, You know, it has never occured to me that we have somebody that young joining us on VROC! I must beg to be excused, as I was taken out by Mikey last night. I now understand why he didn't reply on me informing him that I thought "railriding is for weenies". Hmm, maybe, just maybe I'm happy I'm not one of the seriously big mouthed ones out there <g>. Oh, and you may want to explain the expression "pants" to him, I believe that was the strongest word I used in my rage for being punted out by somebody I had lapped :-) How about sticking a "10" after his nickname at VROC? I think we'll all get along quite nicely then. Best, Matt

Kinda related A friend of mine has a 4yr old, who races N3 (offline of course) hehe he has a problem with concentrating for more than 1-2 laps, but he can get around dega with no contact quite well +) I gonna keep bugging them to start putting money away for a Kart for when he's big enuff to reach the pedals lol. Md "Matthew B.Knutsen" wrote:

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> > Tony Rickard <[email hidden]> wrote in message > news:evmL4.567$[email hidden]... > > The intention wasn't to brag about my lad's lap times - although I guess I > > am a little proud :-). More to try to figure how a young lad would fit in > to > > the "adult" world of semi serious sim racing compared to arcade gaming. > > > > <snip> > > Whoah, > You know, it has never occured to me that we have somebody that young > joining us on VROC! I must beg to be excused, as I was taken out by Mikey > last night. I now understand why he didn't reply on me informing him that I > thought "railriding is for weenies". > > Hmm, maybe, just maybe I'm happy I'm not one of the seriously big mouthed > ones out there <g>. > > Oh, and you may want to explain the expression "pants" to him, I believe > that was the strongest word I used in my rage for being punted out by > somebody I had lapped :-) > > How about sticking a "10" after his nickname at VROC? I think we'll all get > along quite nicely then. > > Best, > Matt

"Matthew B.Knutsen" wrote > > Whoah, > You know, it has never occured to me that we have somebody that young > joining us on VROC! I must beg to be excused, as I was taken out by Mikey > last night. I now understand why he didn't reply on me informing him thatI > thought "railriding is for weenies". >Obviously that is my concern - although he is learning fast! The railriding was by accident (simply running wide) - he knows not to do that > Oh, and you may want to explain the expression "pants" to him, I believe > that was the strongest word I used in my rage for being punted out by > somebody I had lapped :-) You'd be surprised! He'll probably explain it to me :) > > How about sticking a "10" after his nickname at VROC? I think we'll allget > along quite nicely then. >I took the anonymous approach to start with to keep a low profile - now he seems reasonably adept this seems a good idea. So look out for Mikey10. Incidentally - if anyone strongly objects to him racing then feel free - just politely ask him to leave, he understands. Similarly if he does something daft like wander in to you, or block you then let him know so he can benefit from your experience. Cheers Tony

Graeme, did you adjust your driving style to pass your test - or was the prospect of a retest too much for the examiner to consider... Cheers Tony "Graeme Nash" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:8X0bxHATuv$[email hidden]... > > >Mind you it wouldn't be the first time I was beaten at GPL by a driveryet

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> >to pass his test. Perhaps Mikey is my long term revenge for a certain > >G.Nash! > > Muhahahahaha :-) > > Well I guess now that I *have* passed I'm a prime target for a 10-year- > old around Monza.. Although I did recently run my first 1m27 in the > Ferrari :-) > > -- > Cheers! > Graeme Nash

Hi Tony, I saw your son on VROC the other day, very pleasant young man :) If only everyone else on VROC behaved the same way it would be a much nicer place ;) As far as his racing goes I can't comment having never seen him race, but by your description he seems to at least want to have a proper race, which is better than many of the so called mature racers who join VROC and drive backwards around the tracks <G> I say let him join races and see how he goes, if it looks a bit too competitive for his skill level then maybe he could just watch, he may even learn a bit about what is required in online racing. Anyway, there are older *kids already on VROC so I say let him have a go, if you're concerned about the colourful language you can turn the incar and VROC chat off :) -- Ian P == Tony Rickard <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:evmL4.567$[email hidden]... > The intention wasn't to brag about my lad's lap times - although I guess I > am a little proud :-). More to try to figure how a young lad would fit in to > the "adult" world of semi serious sim racing compared to arcade gaming. > > Inevitably his race maturity is lacking. My concern is that he might get > tangled up and ruin someone else's race - for which I have to have a high > degree of responsibility by allowing him to join. The second concern is that > VROC is assumed to be an adult arena, do we really want kids joining in? > Hence the question of whether there are other youngsters around who could > join specific races. > > I have been surprised at Mikey's performance in GPL - I didn't expect a kid > to be able to master GPL to that level, what has surprised me is his > persistence in going through the pain of the learning curve, something kids > tend not to do. If he could put as much effort into school... > > Of course it leaves me a shade disappointed. GPL is the only computer game > left I can beat him. Gran Tourismo I can accept (can't master a joypad to > drive a car). Unreal Tournament (too slow on the fire button). Fifa99 > (controls again - haven't played since losing 9-0). TOCA2 (must be arcade if > he can beat me!). But GPL is an adult game - my years of driving experience > and knowledge of motor racing will always beat a young kid who lacks such > experience. Or so I thought.... > > Mind you it wouldn't be the first time I was beaten at GPL by a driver yet > to pass his test. Perhaps Mikey is my long term revenge for a certain > G.Nash! > > Anyway - if Eldred has sufficient demand for the "kiddie" server I wonder > how many adults here will lie about their age - just to make sure they can > beat them! > > Cheers > > Tony