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Re: Tires and laps at Tally and Daytona

8 posts by 8 people · 19 Apr 2000 - 19 Apr 2000 23:00 UTC

EldredP 19 Apr 2000#276640
In article <3T6L4.38094$[email hidden]>, "Marc Collins" <[email hidden]> writes:
Quoted text (11 lines)>OK...how many laps should a good driver be able to get out of set of tires >at Talladega and Daytona...for BOTH N3 and NL?? > >The Daytona demo track files seem to be "dumbed-down" for whatever reason >and I would like to adjust them to make them more accurate (as I believe the >Tally ones are??). So is/was Daytona real life similar enough to Tally that >similar tire wear can be expected? > >Thanks, > >Marc.
I ran 47 laps at Talladega on monday. Should've only changed right-side tires...I might have WON... Eldred -- Tiger Stadium R.I.P. 1912-1999 Own Grand Prix Legends? Goto http://gpl.gamestats.com/vroc Never argue with an idiot. He brings you down to his level, then beats you with experience... Remove SPAM-OFF to reply.
In article <[email hidden]>, [email hidden] (Schlomo4) wrote: > Only thing I find a bit unrealistic is the fuel runs out about 5 lapstoo soon. > Reason being most of the teams in the twin 125s can go without a pitstop. > But for some reason I cant because I run out of fuel after 45-46laps. Maybe I > should try running in the draft more as opposed to trying to lead it:) Did you notice in the Talladega Diehard 500 on Sunday, Mark Martin and Jeff Burton each ran 62 laps before their first pit stops, then 63 before their second pit stops? P.S. I am lousy at N3 green flag pit stops, especially at Tally. The AIs always seem to get 4 tires (even with 5 laps to go). At least on replays, their stops take 15-17 seconds. Even so, I have a hard time retaining my position when I go in for just 2 tires and one can of fuel. And I do go in with a big group of AIs. They can slow to pit speed very quickly! (This is at 105%). Also they stop at precisely the right spot. While on pit lane they travel EXACTLY the pit road speed limit. Yes, I have spent time practicing pit stops. But not enough I suppose. -- Doug Appleyard "Got us a Dirt Track Date - Demolition derby figure 8" Sent via Deja.com http://www.deja.com/ Before you buy.
Schlomo4 19 Apr 2000#276922
Only thing I find a bit unrealistic is the fuel runs out about 5 laps too soon. Reason being most of the teams in the twin 125s can go without a pit stop. But for some reason I cant because I run out of fuel after 45-46 laps. Maybe I should try running in the draft more as opposed to trying to lead it :) Chris
Marc Collins 19 Apr 2000 00:13 UTC#276958
OK...how many laps should a good driver be able to get out of set of tires at Talladega and Daytona...for BOTH N3 and NL?? The Daytona demo track files seem to be "dumbed-down" for whatever reason and I would like to adjust them to make them more accurate (as I believe the Tally ones are??). So is/was Daytona real life similar enough to Tally that similar tire wear can be expected? Thanks, Marc. -- **************************************************************************** Marc Collins [email hidden] Computers will never equal humans until they make mistakes and blame them on other computers. ****************************************************************************
Kevin Anderson 19 Apr 2000 03:16 UTC#276894
Same here, could probably even get 2 tanks out of the lefts -- Kevin Anderson [email hidden] --------------------------------------------------- DK-Racing #15 K_Anderson ------------------------------------------------- http://www.awtech.net/ "Target 12" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]... > For Talladega, I can go 'til the fuel runs out, which is around 43-45 laps. > Racer X > Veteran Sim Racer > #4 Corvette C5-R in the GTIC > #24 Monte Carlo in the DORL > Victory Lane- > http://www.geocities.com/MotorCity/Speedway/1423/ >
Tim McArthur 19 Apr 2000 21:18 UTC#276715
The Daytona demo is very dumbed down (Same with Dega) . If you want a challenge use these tire settings for Daytona TIRES 57000 4500 60000000 60000 4700 41000000 0 They arent realistic because of the short pit window that N3 has, (will explain that below), but it does make for an exciting race where 2 tire stops are easily possible, but tire wear is a factor in a fuel run... unlike Dega or Papy-Tona. Pit Window = number of laps that can be run on fuel at Dega and Tona. The bad part is that the real guys can run many more laps on fuel then we can in N3. Why? Because they get so much better fuel mileage. Why? Because they dont run at 8000 RPM, they run between 6500 and 7000. Try it and you will see huge mileage gain, but you will be running much slower too... about correct race speeds compared to real life :-) Marc Collins <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:3T6L4.38094$[email hidden]... > OK...how many laps should a good driver be able to get out of set of tires > at Talladega and Daytona...for BOTH N3 and NL?? > > The Daytona demo track files seem to be "dumbed-down" for whatever reason > and I would like to adjust them to make them more accurate (as I believethe > Tally ones are??). So is/was Daytona real life similar enough to Tallythat
Quoted text (8 lines)> similar tire wear can be expected? > > Thanks, > > Marc. > > -- >
**************************************************************************** > Marc Collins > [email hidden] > > Computers will never equal humans until they make mistakes and > blame them on other computers. >**************************************************************************** > > >
Kirk Lane 19 Apr 2000 23:00 UTC#276732
Just wondering - is anyone working on a patch for the new, smaller restrictor plates (and AI to mimic that racing???) -- Kirk Lane [email hidden] [email hidden] ICQ: 28171652 BRT #187 "Yeah you won't find me I'm going MIA Tonight I'm leaving Going MIA Getting lost in you again Is better than being known" -Foo Fighters, "MIA" Schlomo4 <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]... > Only thing I find a bit unrealistic is the fuel runs out about 5 laps too soon. > Reason being most of the teams in the twin 125s can go without a pit stop. > But for some reason I cant because I run out of fuel after 45-46 laps. Maybe I > should try running in the draft more as opposed to trying to lead it :) > > Chris

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