Re: Which processes to leave running in Win98

I'm not sure exactly about the wheel, but I know that if you press Ctrl + Alt + Delete then you should end every task EXCEPT for Systray and Explorer. You might have one more task needed for your wheel but I couldn't tell you what it would be called. You can also try going to Start > Run and type msconfig. This is a utility in win98 that will allow you to determine what exactly is loaded during bootup. BE VERY CAREFUL HERE! Only disable what you are sure you don't need. Basically, if you look at the bottom right of your taskbar after booting and you have anything other than an icon of a speaker, then you are wasting resources (performance). Hope this helps. "Richard S Beckett" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:8e40b0$[email hidden]... x-no-archive: yes Chaps, In order to make sure that my PC is spending all it's available resources on the sim I'm playing I want to kill all the un-neccesary processes, but I'm not quite sure what to kill and what's needed. I'm running win98 with a MSFF wheel. Could anyone give me a list of what to leave running, please? Thanks. R.

"Richard S Beckett" <[email hidden]> writes:

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> Chaps, > > In order to make sure that my PC is spending all it's available resources on the sim I'm playing I want to kill all the un-neccesary processes, but I'm not quite sure what to kill and what's needed. > > I'm running win98 with a MSFF wheel. > > Could anyone give me a list of what to leave running, please?

I'm running Explorer, Systray and Swtray. Explorer and Systray is absolutely minimum, but you also need Swtray for your MSFF. -- Olav K. Malmin remove spam when replying

Explorer is the only thing you *need* running. If you're on a notebook, I'd advise leaving Systray running too.( If you're running LiteStep, leave LSWharf running instead of Explorer ;-) Slot Richard S Beckett <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:8e40b0$[email hidden]... x-no-archive: yes Chaps, In order to make sure that my PC is spending all it's available resources on the sim I'm playing I want to kill all the un-neccesary processes, but I'm not quite sure what to kill and what's needed. I'm running win98 with a MSFF wheel. Could anyone give me a list of what to leave running, please? Thanks. R.

Question about the processes.... DO I need Rundll in there? and err what is it? Md Richard S Beckett wrote:

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> > x-no-archive: yes > > Thanks Guys. > > Is there _anything_ that someone in r.a.s doesn't know? ;-D > > R. > > -- > > Olav K. Malmin wrote in message ... > > >I'm running Explorer, Systray and Swtray. Explorer and Systray is > >absolutely minimum, but you also need Swtray for your MSFF.

Get yourself the Enditall utility. This allows you to close down all the processes which aren't required at the touch of a button. You can download it from: http://hotfiles.zdnet.com/cgi-bin/texis/swlib/hotfiles/info.html?b=pcm&fcode =0011NB I usually leave Explorer, Systray and Rnaapp running. I also use Rambooster to free up memory before running sims. I can usually get 95Mb free Ram before starting a sim when using Rambooster and Enditall. You can get Rambooster from: http://www.sci.fi/~borg/rambooster/index.htm Hope this helps. Cheers Phil -- http://www.youpies.co.uk Richard S Beckett <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:8e40b0$[email hidden]... x-no-archive: yes Chaps, In order to make sure that my PC is spending all it's available resources on the sim I'm playing I want to kill all the un-neccesary processes, but I'm not quite sure what to kill and what's needed. I'm running win98 with a MSFF wheel. Could anyone give me a list of what to leave running, please? Thanks. R.

Err...how do I get through the chicane at Monaco...?...8^) J. P. Hovercraft Richard S Beckett wrote:

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> x-no-archive: yes > > Thanks Guys. > > Is there _anything_ that someone in r.a.s doesn't know? ;-D > > R. > > -- > > Olav K. Malmin wrote in message ... > > >I'm running Explorer, Systray and Swtray. Explorer and Systray is > >absolutely minimum, but you also need Swtray for your MSFF.

Not really! it's basically a program that allows certain dll's (link library's) to run as an application. (the more I read that sentence the more confusing it looks :) ) . Anyway it's usually carried over from an early version of Win95 that is of course assuming you upgraded from 95 to 98. if not it's also used by some fax/modem software. anyhow if you want to remove it permanently you'll find in the sys.ini or win.ini a line that says run=rundll.exe just remove it or better yet run msconfig and untick it just to test if anything you want stops responding. Blimey that was the short answer! Cheers, Jason Martyn Danby <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]...

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> Question about the processes.... > > > DO I need Rundll in there? and err what is it? > > Md > > Richard S Beckett wrote: > > > > x-no-archive: yes > > > > Thanks Guys. > > > > Is there _anything_ that someone in r.a.s doesn't know? ;-D > > > > R. > > > > -- > > > > Olav K. Malmin wrote in message ... > > > > >I'm running Explorer, Systray and Swtray. Explorer and Systray is > > >absolutely minimum, but you also need Swtray for your MSFF.

Thanks Jason Actually i installed w98 from a clean reformat, and never have installed a modem in this thing. Besides systray, swtray, and explorer thats all I have left to remove, thanx Oh btw, i notice in msconfig that i see some lines in there more than once. Loadpowerprofile, usually with rundll32.exe as the prog it runs. Now i do notice that 3dfx tools also uses Rundll32.exe... Do we need 3dfxtools running? Md Jason wrote:

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> > Not really! > > it's basically a program that allows certain dll's (link library's) to run > as an application. (the more I read that sentence the more confusing it > looks :) ) . Anyway it's usually carried over from an early version of Win95 > that is of course assuming you upgraded from 95 to 98. if not it's also used > by some fax/modem software. anyhow if you want to remove it permanently > you'll find in the sys.ini or win.ini a line that says run=rundll.exe just > remove it or better yet run msconfig and untick it just to test if anything > you want stops responding. > > Blimey that was the short answer! > > Cheers, Jason > > Martyn Danby <[email hidden]> wrote in message > news:[email hidden]... > > Question about the processes.... > > > > > > DO I need Rundll in there? and err what is it? > > > > Md > > > > Richard S Beckett wrote: > > > > > > x-no-archive: yes > > > > > > Thanks Guys. > > > > > > Is there _anything_ that someone in r.a.s doesn't know? ;-D > > > > > > R. > > > > > > -- > > > > > > Olav K. Malmin wrote in message ... > > > > > > >I'm running Explorer, Systray and Swtray. Explorer and Systray is > > > >absolutely minimum, but you also need Swtray for your MSFF.

In article <8e4ae9$[email hidden]>, "Richard S Beckett" <[email hidden]> writes: >Thanks Guys. > >Is there _anything_ that someone in r.a.s doesn't know? ;-D > >R. > That's the beauty of newsgroups. With such a diverse group of people, I'm surprized when someone DOESN'T know the answer... Eldred -- Tiger Stadium R.I.P. 1912-1999 Own Grand Prix Legends? Goto http://gpl.gamestats.com/vroc Never argue with an idiot. He brings you down to his level, then beats you with experience... Remove SPAM-OFF to reply.

In article <[email hidden]>, Martyn Danby <[email hidden]> writes: >Question about the processes.... > > >DO I need Rundll in there? and err what is it? On my work system, it deals with the system display properties. I always shut it down before I fire up the WINVroc server... -- Tiger Stadium R.I.P. 1912-1999 Own Grand Prix Legends? Goto http://gpl.gamestats.com/vroc Never argue with an idiot. He brings you down to his level, then beats you with experience... Remove SPAM-OFF to reply.

In article <[email hidden]>, Support <[email hidden]> writes: >Err...how do I get through the chicane at Monaco...?...8^) > >J. P. Hovercraft Close your eyes... No, it won't help you get through it, but at least you won't see your impending DOOM... Eldred -- Tiger Stadium R.I.P. 1912-1999 Own Grand Prix Legends? Goto http://gpl.gamestats.com/vroc Never argue with an idiot. He brings you down to his level, then beats you with experience... Remove SPAM-OFF to reply.

Dave Henrie <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]... > OK Big E...here's one for the group. > > What is airspeed of an unladen Swallow? > Dave Henrie > African or European?

The only two things win98 needs running are "Explorer and Systray" I'm not sure if your wheel need anything else though. cya. Richard S Beckett <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:8e40b0$[email hidden]... x-no-archive: yes Chaps, In order to make sure that my PC is spending all it's available resources on the sim I'm playing I want to kill all the un-neccesary processes, but I'm not quite sure what to kill and what's needed. I'm running win98 with a MSFF wheel. Could anyone give me a list of what to leave running, please? Thanks. R.

Hi Richard, You need nothing...(except wheeldriver) I've tried this one minute ago with F12k and a LWFF. 1. Unload everything from systray manually, except for the LWFF-control, just disable the systray-icon. 2. Open explorer and browse to your cd, and run the file Autorun.EXE, which displays a menu. 3. Press the windows Start-button, and select Shut down. 4. When the 'What do you want your computer to do?' -menu shows, press and hold down CTRL-ALT-SHIFT and click cancel. This will unload Explorer(useful for debugging shell-extensions ;-) 5. Use CTRL-ALT-DEL and remove everything exept the F12k autorun.exe, and your wheeldriver executable. Systray might take 2 seconds to shut down, and probably has to be forced. 6. If the F12k menu doesn't show, ALT-TAB one time, and it will show. 7. Press play... If you'd like a better tool for viewing processes, download kerneltoys from MS, and try out wintop. (The Explorer isn't the windows executable, but merely a userInterface.) Happy playing! /Carl ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- ------------ x-no-archive: yes Chaps, In order to make sure that my PC is spending all it's available resources on the sim I'm playing I want to kill all the un-neccesary processes, but I'm not quite sure what to kill and what's needed. I'm running win98 with a MSFF wheel. Could anyone give me a list of what to leave running, please? Thanks. R.

African or European?

African or European?

What? I don't know that! Auuuuuuuugh!

OK Big E...here's one for the group. What is airspeed of an unladen Swallow? Dave Henrie E > That's the beauty of newsgroups. With such a diverse group of people, I'm > surprized when someone DOESN'T know the answer... > > Eldred

Dave Henrie <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]... > OK Big E...here's one for the group. > > What is airspeed of an unladen Swallow? > Dave Henrie African or European?

What? I don't know that! Auuuuuuuugh!

Dave Henrie <[email hidden]> wrote > What is airspeed of an unladen Swallow? de Havilland, Sopwith or Mescherschmitt? Cheers Phil -- http://www.youpies.co.uk

unladen: with or without feathers? if without, use accel. due to gravity calc. with initial height input., or terminal velocity if high enough. Dave Henrie wrote:

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> OK Big E...here's one for the group. > > What is airspeed of an unladen Swallow? > Dave Henrie > > E > > That's the beauty of newsgroups. With such a diverse group of people, I'm > > surprized when someone DOESN'T know the answer... > > > > Eldred

Vmax or stall? MS "Dave Henrie" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]...

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> OK Big E...here's one for the group. > > What is airspeed of an unladen Swallow? > Dave Henrie > > E > > That's the beauty of newsgroups. With such a diverse group of people,

I'm > > surprized when someone DOESN'T know the answer... > > > > Eldred

damn Flight Simmers...I knew there were some here! :) dave henrie "m.seery" wrote:

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> > Vmax or stall? > > MS > "Dave Henrie" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > news:[email hidden]... > > OK Big E...here's one for the group. > > > > What is airspeed of an unladen Swallow? > > Dave Henrie > > > > E > > > That's the beauty of newsgroups. With such a diverse group of people, > I'm > > > surprized when someone DOESN'T know the answer... > > > > > > Eldred

Damn Engineers...I knew there were some in here! :) dave henrie Keith Daniell wrote:

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> > unladen: with or without feathers? if without, use accel. due to gravity calc. > with initial height input., or terminal velocity if high enough. > > Dave Henrie wrote: > > > OK Big E...here's one for the group. > > > > What is airspeed of an unladen Swallow? > > Dave Henrie > > > > E > > > That's the beauty of newsgroups. With such a diverse group of people, I'm > > > surprized when someone DOESN'T know the answer... > > > > > > Eldred

IAS or TAS? Dave Henrie wrote:

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> > Damn Engineers...I knew there were some in here! :) > dave henrie > > Keith Daniell wrote: > > > > unladen: with or without feathers? if without, use accel. due to gravity calc. > > with initial height input., or terminal velocity if high enough. > > > > Dave Henrie wrote: > > > > > OK Big E...here's one for the group. > > > > > > What is airspeed of an unladen Swallow? > > > Dave Henrie > > > > > > E > > > > That's the beauty of newsgroups. With such a diverse group of people, I'm > > > > surprized when someone DOESN'T know the answer... > > > > > > > > Eldred

Damn ... uh... well I KNEW THEY were here too! dave henrie Martyn Danby wrote:

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> > IAS or TAS? > > Dave Henrie wrote: > > > > Damn Engineers...I knew there were some in here! :) > > dave henrie > > > > Keith Daniell wrote: > > > > > > unladen: with or without feathers? if without, use accel. due to gravity calc. > > > with initial height input., or terminal velocity if high enough. > > > > > > Dave Henrie wrote: > > > > > > > OK Big E...here's one for the group. > > > > > > > > What is airspeed of an unladen Swallow? > > > > Dave Henrie > > > > > > > > E > > > > > That's the beauty of newsgroups. With such a diverse group of people, I'm > > > > > surprized when someone DOESN'T know the answer... > > > > > > > > > > Eldred

Better than that Dave. I used to build the real thing. I'm an airframe fitter / materials engineer by trade. One of these days, I'll get round to converting my glider licence to powered flight <G> All I need is to sell my domain name and I'll have the money for lessons. I'm just waiting for a Multinational corporation to name themselves seeryenterprises <G> MS "Dave Henrie" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]...

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> damn Flight Simmers...I knew there were some here! :) > dave henrie > > "m.seery" wrote: > > > > Vmax or stall? > > > > MS > > "Dave Henrie" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > > news:[email hidden]... > > > OK Big E...here's one for the group. > > > > > > What is airspeed of an unladen Swallow? > > > Dave Henrie > > > > > > E > > > > That's the beauty of newsgroups. With such a diverse group of

people, > > I'm > > > > surprized when someone DOESN'T know the answer... > > > > > > > > Eldred

Vmax or stall? MS

I jus an unemployed bum, with little college (changin that this fall) tho i've learned to fly, with the pc. Which IMO is much simpler than learnin to drive a race car... (err applying the sim to the real world that is) Md "m.seery" wrote:

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> > Better than that Dave. > > I used to build the real thing. I'm an airframe fitter / materials engineer > by trade. One of these days, I'll get round to converting my glider licence > to powered flight <G> All I need is to sell my domain name and I'll have the > money for lessons. I'm just waiting for a Multinational corporation to name > themselves seeryenterprises <G> > > MS > "Dave Henrie" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > news:[email hidden]... > > damn Flight Simmers...I knew there were some here! :) > > dave henrie > > > > "m.seery" wrote: > > > > > > Vmax or stall? > > > > > > MS > > > "Dave Henrie" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > > > news:[email hidden]... > > > > OK Big E...here's one for the group. > > > > > > > > What is airspeed of an unladen Swallow? > > > > Dave Henrie > > > > > > > > E > > > > > That's the beauty of newsgroups. With such a diverse group of > people, > > > I'm > > > > > surprized when someone DOESN'T know the answer... > > > > > > > > > > Eldred

Man, that was a tender morsel you threw in there. Bet you snagged a couple of biologists, some movie critics and maybe a birdwatcher or two. Dave Henrie wrote:

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> Damn Engineers...I knew there were some in here! :) > dave henrie > > Keith Daniell wrote: > > > > unladen: with or without feathers? if without, use accel. due to gravity calc. > > with initial height input., or terminal velocity if high enough. > > > > Dave Henrie wrote: > > > > > OK Big E...here's one for the group. > > > > > > What is airspeed of an unladen Swallow? > > > Dave Henrie > > > > > > E > > > > That's the beauty of newsgroups. With such a diverse group of people, I'm > > > > surprized when someone DOESN'T know the answer... > > > > > > > > Eldred