Re: IGN's F1 World Grand Prix (US) review

Chris Miller wrote:

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> > The full review is here: > > http://www.dailyradar.com/reviews/game_review_663.html > > The first paragraph of the review is rather funny: > > "Formula One racing hasn't been quite as much fun since the sport was > overhauled in the early '80s. Before it was regulated, the car > specifications were all over the place. One year, Lotus won almost > every event with a totally insane six-wheeled, supercharged > monstrosity. Seriously. And it was that kind of outrageous reliance > on weirdo technology that caused the homologation (we can use that > word with impunity now, thanks to Sega GT) of the F1 circuit. Now, as > in NASCAR, the F1 autos have to follow set requirements. They still > vary massively, and more importantly, so do the tracks."

Yikes! This is bizarre. I wonder if the author drinks homologated milk? bp

The full review is here: http://www.dailyradar.com/reviews/game_review_663.html The first paragraph of the review is rather funny: "Formula One racing hasn't been quite as much fun since the sport was overhauled in the early '80s. Before it was regulated, the car specifications were all over the place. One year, Lotus won almost every event with a totally insane six-wheeled, supercharged monstrosity. Seriously. And it was that kind of outrageous reliance on weirdo technology that caused the homologation (we can use that word with impunity now, thanks to Sega GT) of the F1 circuit. Now, as in NASCAR, the F1 autos have to follow set requirements. They still vary massively, and more importantly, so do the tracks." I think that I'll stick with the reviews on Digital Sportspage.

Damn... Screwed up the subject line. ^_^;; Don't know why I was thinking of IGN. On Tue, 25 Apr 2000 10:04:08 -0700, Chris Miller <[email hidden]> wrote:

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>The full review is here: > >http://www.dailyradar.com/reviews/game_review_663.html > >The first paragraph of the review is rather funny: > >"Formula One racing hasn't been quite as much fun since the sport was >overhauled in the early '80s. Before it was regulated, the car >specifications were all over the place. One year, Lotus won almost >every event with a totally insane six-wheeled, supercharged >monstrosity. Seriously. And it was that kind of outrageous reliance >on weirdo technology that caused the homologation (we can use that >word with impunity now, thanks to Sega GT) of the F1 circuit. Now, as >in NASCAR, the F1 autos have to follow set requirements. They still >vary massively, and more importantly, so do the tracks." > >I think that I'll stick with the reviews on Digital Sportspage. >

On Tue, 25 Apr 2000 10:18:59 -0700, Barry Posner <[email hidden]> wrote:

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>Chris Miller wrote: >> >> The full review is here: >> >> http://www.dailyradar.com/reviews/game_review_663.html >> monstrosity. Seriously. And it was that kind of outrageous reliance >> on weirdo technology that caused the homologation (we can use that >> word with impunity now, thanks to Sega GT) of the F1 circuit. Now, as > >Yikes! This is bizarre. I wonder if the author drinks homologated milk?

I hope that the review isn't typical of Daily Radar's Sega wing. I've gotten used to nonsense from the Sony side of things, so I don't pay it too much attention. <sigh> It would have been better if I'd gotten the subject line correct on my first try. ^_^;; IGN's reviewed the UK release, but not the US release, yet.

And Frankey-boy O-Conner doesn't take too well to corrections of his errors, either. --DK "Barry Posner" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]...

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> Chris Miller wrote: > > > > The full review is here: > > > > http://www.dailyradar.com/reviews/game_review_663.html > > > > The first paragraph of the review is rather funny: > > > > "Formula One racing hasn't been quite as much fun since the sport was > > overhauled in the early '80s. Before it was regulated, the car > > specifications were all over the place. One year, Lotus won almost > > every event with a totally insane six-wheeled, supercharged > > monstrosity. Seriously. And it was that kind of outrageous reliance > > on weirdo technology that caused the homologation (we can use that > > word with impunity now, thanks to Sega GT) of the F1 circuit. Now, as > > in NASCAR, the F1 autos have to follow set requirements. They still > > vary massively, and more importantly, so do the tracks." > > Yikes! This is bizarre. I wonder if the author drinks homologated milk? > > bp

> > > The first paragraph of the review is rather funny: > > > > > > "Formula One racing hasn't been quite as much fun since the sportwas > > > overhauled in the early '80s. Before it was regulated, the car > > > specifications were all over the place. One year, Lotus won almost > > > every event with a totally insane six-wheeled, supercharged > > > monstrosity. Seriously. And it was that kind of outrageousreliance > > > on weirdo technology that caused the homologation (we can use that > > > word with impunity now, thanks to Sega GT) of the F1 circuit.Now, as > > > in NASCAR, the F1 autos have to follow set requirements. Theystill > > > vary massively, and more importantly, so do the tracks." > > > > Yikes! This is bizarre. I wonder if the author drinks homologatedmilk? > > > > bp > > Look, I don't want to nit-pick, but I think you guys are marking fun of Frank for saying homologated instead of homogenized. But homologated and homogenized are actually two different words-- homogonized means all mixed together into a uniformed mixture -- like milk where the fat and skim are blended together. homologated means basically "sanctioned" or "allowed." It's a common term in racing, which means that all partipating cars or bikes or whatever have to be "homologated," or meet similar, preset conditions. So you can't, say, put six wheels on your car. Sega GT has the word in it's title in Japan. The point Frank was trying to make was that the cars are all basically the same now. There was a mistake in the first paragraph of the review, however -- it wasn't Lotus who ran the six-wheeled car, it was Tyrell. You can find a discussion of that error (and Frank's apology and explanation -- both teams were sponsored by John Players that year and had the same black and gold livery, so he got confused) on a F1 usenet group someplace. (That's what I was looking for when I found this thread.) Chris Charla Imagine Media www.dailyradar.com Sent via Deja.com http://www.deja.com/ Before you buy.

[email hidden] wrote: > Look, I don't want to nit-pick, but I think you guys are marking fun of > Frank for saying homologated instead of homogenized. But homologated > and homogenized are actually two different words-- We all know that, dimbulb. That was the point of the jibe. Some of us racing fans actually know what homlogation means. > homogonized means all mixed together into a uniformed mixture -- like > milk where the fat and skim are blended together. More correctly, it means "of uniform structure or composition". But thanks for telling us what we already knew. > homologated means basically "sanctioned" or "allowed." And it usually applies to racing series where the racecars are derived from road cars. To be homologated, the race car had to be the same as the street car. Thus, the usual practice was for a manufacturer to make as many copies of the race as was necessary in order to qualify for whatever the sanctioning body considered to be "production". The generalized, root meaning of homologated means "all under the same rules", but it has a broadly accepted, albeit slightly narrower, meaning in motor racing. Do you know what "GTO", as in Ferrari 250 GTO, means? > The point Frank was trying to make was that the cars are all basically > the same now. They are (to the layman, but not the enthusiast) homogeneous - all the same. And they are within a given set of rules, if you wish to be pedantic about the usage of homologated. However, F1 is not a homologated series in the sense with which that word is usually used in racing. The clown confused the usage of homologated and homogenized, and that was the root of the ridicule. > There was a mistake in the first paragraph of the review, however -- it > wasn't Lotus who ran the six-wheeled car, it was Tyrell. You can find a > discussion of that error (and Frank's apology and explanation -- both > teams were sponsored by John Players that year and had the same black > and gold livery, so he got confused) The six-wheel car (the Tyrrell P34) did not win "nearly every race" as the previous author stated, but one (the Swedish GP in 1976). And it was not supercharged. And it did not have JPS livery, but French blue Elf livery. If you're gonna post a correction, please get the facts right first. With the internet at our command, these facts are easy to find out. bp

On Sun, 30 Apr 2000 18:44:56 GMT, [email hidden] wrote: >There was a mistake in the first paragraph of the review, however -- it >wasn't Lotus who ran the six-wheeled car, it was Tyrell. You can find a And it even won the... oh bugger it.

On Sun, 30 Apr 2000 19:12:55 GMT, [email hidden] (Toni Lassila) wrote: >>There was a mistake in the first paragraph of the review, however -- it >>wasn't Lotus who ran the six-wheeled car, it was Tyrell. You can find a > >And it even won the... oh bugger it. Homologously, even ;) Glenys "And they just want to shut it down. Well, that's no better than book burning."

Barry Posner wrote: > Do you know what "GTO", as in Ferrari 250 GTO, means? "Girls Together Outrageously". Dave Ewing > -- > ***************************************************** > David A. Ewing > Xilinx Boulder [email hidden] > *****************************************************

Erm..the Tyrrell P34 sponsored by PLAYERS......wonder what ELF would have to say about that...... Sudesh [email hidden] wrote:

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> > > > The first paragraph of the review is rather funny: > > > > > > > > "Formula One racing hasn't been quite as much fun since the sport > was > > > > overhauled in the early '80s. Before it was regulated, the car > > > > specifications were all over the place. One year, Lotus won almost > > > > every event with a totally insane six-wheeled, supercharged > > > > monstrosity. Seriously. And it was that kind of outrageous > reliance > > > > on weirdo technology that caused the homologation (we can use that > > > > word with impunity now, thanks to Sega GT) of the F1 circuit. > Now, as > > > > in NASCAR, the F1 autos have to follow set requirements. They > still > > > > vary massively, and more importantly, so do the tracks." > > > > > > Yikes! This is bizarre. I wonder if the author drinks homologated > milk? > > > > > > bp > > > > > > Look, I don't want to nit-pick, but I think you guys are marking fun of > Frank for saying homologated instead of homogenized. But homologated > and homogenized are actually two different words-- > > homogonized means all mixed together into a uniformed mixture -- like > milk where the fat and skim are blended together. > > homologated means basically "sanctioned" or "allowed." It's a common > term in racing, which means that all partipating cars or bikes or > whatever have to be "homologated," or meet similar, preset conditions. > So you can't, say, put six wheels on your car. Sega GT has the word in > it's title in Japan. > > The point Frank was trying to make was that the cars are all basically > the same now. > > There was a mistake in the first paragraph of the review, however -- it > wasn't Lotus who ran the six-wheeled car, it was Tyrell. You can find a > discussion of that error (and Frank's apology and explanation -- both > teams were sponsored by John Players that year and had the same black > and gold livery, so he got confused) on a F1 usenet group someplace. > (That's what I was looking for when I found this thread.) > > Chris Charla > Imagine Media > www.dailyradar.com > > Sent via Deja.com http://www.deja.com/ > Before you buy.

(schipps, schnapps) Uh, lemme guess....same as in Pontiac? :-D Doc -- Doc Fredrik B.Knutsen Cheek Racing Cars www.cheekracing.com

Barry Posner wrote: (schipps, schnapps) > > > Do you know what "GTO", as in Ferrari 250 GTO, means? Uh, lemme guess....same as in Pontiac? :-D Doc

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> > > > > The six-wheel car (the Tyrrell P34) did not win "nearly every race" as > the previous author stated, but one (the Swedish GP in 1976). And it was > not supercharged. And it did not have JPS livery, but French blue Elf > livery. > > If you're gonna post a correction, please get the facts right first. > With the internet at our command, these facts are easy to find out. > > bp

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amos-opus wrote: > Erm..the Tyrrell P34 sponsored by PLAYERS......wonder what ELF would have to > say about that...... Bet you Roger Hill never told he'd put a supercharged engine in it, either :-) Doc

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> > > Sudesh > > [email hidden] wrote: > > > > > > The first paragraph of the review is rather funny: > > > > > > > > > > "Formula One racing hasn't been quite as much fun since the sport > > was > > > > > overhauled in the early '80s. Before it was regulated, the car > > > > > specifications were all over the place. One year, Lotus won almost > > > > > every event with a totally insane six-wheeled, supercharged > > > > > monstrosity. Seriously. And it was that kind of outrageous > > reliance > > > > > on weirdo technology that caused the homologation (we can use that > > > > > word with impunity now, thanks to Sega GT) of the F1 circuit. > > Now, as > > > > > in NASCAR, the F1 autos have to follow set requirements. They > > still > > > > > vary massively, and more importantly, so do the tracks." > > > > > > > > Yikes! This is bizarre. I wonder if the author drinks homologated > > milk? > > > > > > > > bp > > > > > > > > > > Look, I don't want to nit-pick, but I think you guys are marking fun of > > Frank for saying homologated instead of homogenized. But homologated > > and homogenized are actually two different words-- > > > > homogonized means all mixed together into a uniformed mixture -- like > > milk where the fat and skim are blended together. > > > > homologated means basically "sanctioned" or "allowed." It's a common > > term in racing, which means that all partipating cars or bikes or > > whatever have to be "homologated," or meet similar, preset conditions. > > So you can't, say, put six wheels on your car. Sega GT has the word in > > it's title in Japan. > > > > The point Frank was trying to make was that the cars are all basically > > the same now. > > > > There was a mistake in the first paragraph of the review, however -- it > > wasn't Lotus who ran the six-wheeled car, it was Tyrell. You can find a > > discussion of that error (and Frank's apology and explanation -- both > > teams were sponsored by John Players that year and had the same black > > and gold livery, so he got confused) on a F1 usenet group someplace. > > (That's what I was looking for when I found this thread.) > > > > Chris Charla > > Imagine Media > > www.dailyradar.com > > > > Sent via Deja.com http://www.deja.com/ > > Before you buy.

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