Re: GPL Demo, true taster?

MaXX <[email hidden]> schrieb in im Newsbeitrag: [email hidden]... > > There so much enthusiasm for GPL here I'm tempted to buy it, > I know it's now on budget here in the UK but really don't > want to get into it without taking a peek first. > > Is the demo a true taster of the game? Its not. The game is very user unfriendly and the first five hours absolutely no fun. So playing the demo prevents from buying the game. If you will buy it, you are probably ready to invest some time, read the excellent book "4 wheel drift" which is inside and start to get into the game. Then you will got hooked and never look back. Welcome in the GPL community! :-)) Jochen (go out and buy it!)

I ran the demo and I hated it. I didn't even consider buying the game. Then I read this NG and couldn't fail to see the enthusiasm for GPL so I bought it. Haven't looked back since =) ...Colin MaXX <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]...

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> > There so much enthusiasm for GPL here I'm tempted to buy it, > I know it's now on budget here in the UK but really don't > want to get into it without taking a peek first. > > Is the demo a true taster of the game? > Not bothered if graphics restricted, mainly interested in > getting a feel for the physics, will the demo allow me > to do this. > > I use an MS Precision Wheel, is this supported OK? > > TIA > > MaXX

There so much enthusiasm for GPL here I'm tempted to buy it, I know it's now on budget here in the UK but really don't want to get into it without taking a peek first. Is the demo a true taster of the game? Not bothered if graphics restricted, mainly interested in getting a feel for the physics, will the demo allow me to do this. I use an MS Precision Wheel, is this supported OK? TIA MaXX

"MaXX" <[email hidden]> wrote > Is the demo a true taster of the game? > Not bothered if graphics restricted, mainly interested in > getting a feel for the physics, will the demo allow me > to do this. You will get a good overall satisfaction of the game physics compared to the full title. They made them much better in the final product, but the demo was impressive for it's time ( 2 years old ). -- -- Fran�ois M�nard <ymenard> -- May the Downforce be with you... -- http://www.WeRace.net -- People think it must be fun to be a super genius, but they don't realise how hard it is to put up with all the idiots in the world.

MaXX asked: >There so much enthusiasm for GPL here I'm tempted to buy it, >I know it's now on budget here in the UK but really don't >want to get into it without taking a peek first. Don't buy it, if you do not want to know, how it really feels to drive a real racing car... ;-) Actually there hasn't been anything like GPL after GPL! Do not hesitate to buy the real thing as soon as possible. And then take the 1.2 patch from Papy/Sierra; very, very good also for FF (I use MS FF). And then buy Dave Noonan's converter and convert the most interesting ICR2/CART, N2/N1999 and N3 tracks to the GPL, too. There hasn't been anything like GPL since GPL! Will there ever be? ;) Arto

> Is the demo a true taster of the game? > Not bothered if graphics restricted, mainly interested in > getting a feel for the physics, will the demo allow me > to do this. Yes! For sure. In the demo there is the Glen tracks and before I buy that incredible game I download and played this demo for a very long time. > > I use an MS Precision Wheel, is this supported OK? Yes! -- Mauro LICCIARDELLO E-Mail [email hidden] (vecchia E-mail [email hidden]) ICQ 42019098

Just buy it. There is nothing like the online racing in Vroc. I used to get a lot of the racing games that came out and they would hold my interest for a while, but nothing like this. I don't play games anymore. I only run GPL. Everything else is just no fun. "MaXX" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]...

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> > There so much enthusiasm for GPL here I'm tempted to buy it, > I know it's now on budget here in the UK but really don't > want to get into it without taking a peek first. > > Is the demo a true taster of the game? > Not bothered if graphics restricted, mainly interested in > getting a feel for the physics, will the demo allow me > to do this. > > I use an MS Precision Wheel, is this supported OK? > > TIA > > MaXX

All I can say is go down to Game or Electronics Boutique and part with your �9.99. If you don't like it within 10 days take it back and get a refund. What have you got to lose? As it stands at the moment IMHO GPL is the best race sim there is but it does take time. You really should give it a try. The driving physics do take a lot of practice but it is so rewarding. Its the only race sim I've had where you really can steer with the throttle. The only caution I would have is what hardware do you have. GPL is pretty fussy over graphics cards. If you have a Voodoo or Rendition card then you'll have no problem. If you don't you'll need a graphics card such as a Riva TNT which supports OpenGL. You'll then have to download a patch to the sim to enable OpenGL hardware acceleration. Let us know what hardware you have and someone here will be able to say how well GPL runs on it. Cheers Phil -- http://www.youpies.co.uk

Ditto that! "Colin" <colin AT yourmiata DOT COM> wrote in message news:8ea5gn$stm$[email hidden]...

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> I ran the demo and I hated it. > I didn't even consider buying the game. > Then I read this NG and couldn't fail to see the enthusiasm for GPL so I > bought it. > Haven't looked back since =) > ...Colin > > MaXX <[email hidden]> wrote in message > news:[email hidden]... > > > > There so much enthusiasm for GPL here I'm tempted to buy it, > > I know it's now on budget here in the UK but really don't > > want to get into it without taking a peek first. > > > > Is the demo a true taster of the game? > > Not bothered if graphics restricted, mainly interested in > > getting a feel for the physics, will the demo allow me > > to do this. > > > > I use an MS Precision Wheel, is this supported OK? > > > > TIA > > > > MaXX > >

I can't beleive all you SURTEES whiners. You haven't figured out the VERY SIMPLE METHOD of avoiding the Surtees Shuffle? I'm sure I can speak for Eldred and Myself in that drivers like us NEVER HAVE problems with Surtees running into the back of us...I'M TOO SLOW TO CATCH HIM! dave henrie Phil Lee wrote:

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> > Borut Srebotnik <[email hidden]> wrote > > > Surtes ( yes, Surtes, i guess i > > didn't run over his dog after all <g>, people of GPL will know what this > > means ) > > The bugger still runs into the back of me! I reckon I must have run over > his entire family! > > Cheers > > Phil > > -- > http://www.youpies.co.uk > > in message news:z82O4.2711$[email hidden]... > > The only thing i can say is i envy you. I really do! I would give anything > > to replicate that moment when i opend the GPL box, inserted the CD and > blah, > > blah... you heard it all in this NG. I just did a few Monza laps and i > found > > a great setup and had an offline race and Surtes ( yes, Surtes, i guess i > > didn't run over his dog after all <g>, people of GPL will know what this > > means ), Rodriguez, Parkes and i in my trusty Cooper battled for that 11 > > position and i did incredible things to them and they did even more > > incredible things to me and i think i need a beer right now. But some days > > it's just better to stick with beer and leave GPL alone as it can be such > a > > %^&^$*. I think you get the point! > > > > Borut > > > > P.S. Who said that GPL was a state of mind? ;-) > > > >

Borut Srebotnik <[email hidden]> wrote > Surtes ( yes, Surtes, i guess i > didn't run over his dog after all <g>, people of GPL will know what this > means ) The bugger still runs into the back of me! I reckon I must have run over his entire family! Cheers Phil -- http://www.youpies.co.uk in message news:z82O4.2711$[email hidden]... > The only thing i can say is i envy you. I really do! I would give anything > to replicate that moment when i opend the GPL box, inserted the CD and blah, > blah... you heard it all in this NG. I just did a few Monza laps and i found > a great setup and had an offline race and Surtes ( yes, Surtes, i guess i > didn't run over his dog after all <g>, people of GPL will know what this > means ), Rodriguez, Parkes and i in my trusty Cooper battled for that 11 > position and i did incredible things to them and they did even more > incredible things to me and i think i need a beer right now. But some days > it's just better to stick with beer and leave GPL alone as it can be such a > %^&^$*. I think you get the point! > > Borut > > P.S. Who said that GPL was a state of mind? ;-) > >

"MaXX" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]...

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> > There so much enthusiasm for GPL here I'm tempted to buy it, > I know it's now on budget here in the UK but really don't > want to get into it without taking a peek first. > > Is the demo a true taster of the game? > Not bothered if graphics restricted, mainly interested in > getting a feel for the physics, will the demo allow me > to do this. > > I use an MS Precision Wheel, is this supported OK?

Don't bother with the demo, get the game at once! GPL is the best driving game I have ever tried to this date. It's difficult to describe, but when you go at breakneck speed at the "Ring" you really "feel" the physics. All others car-sim physics feel "canned" in comparison. K.S. Br�nnick

The only thing i can say is i envy you. I really do! I would give anything to replicate that moment when i opend the GPL box, inserted the CD and blah, blah... you heard it all in this NG. I just did a few Monza laps and i found a great setup and had an offline race and Surtes ( yes, Surtes, i guess i didn't run over his dog after all <g>, people of GPL will know what this means ), Rodriguez, Parkes and i in my trusty Cooper battled for that 11 position and i did incredible things to them and they did even more incredible things to me and i think i need a beer right now. But some days it's just better to stick with beer and leave GPL alone as it can be such a %^&^$*. I think you get the point! Borut P.S. Who said that GPL was a state of mind? ;-)

> I'M TOO SLOW TO CATCH HIM! Hehe! :-)

Dave Henrie wrote in message <[email hidden]>... > I can't beleive all you SURTEES whiners. You haven't figured out the >VERY SIMPLE METHOD of avoiding the Surtees Shuffle? I'm sure I can >speak for Eldred and Myself in that drivers like us NEVER HAVE problems >with Surtees running into the back of us...I'M TOO SLOW TO CATCH HIM! Too slow to catch him? Does that mean that you're so slow you can't even lap the man ;-) Not even 2 or 3 times per race? Better start using 3rd, 4th and 5th gear ;-) Borut

Hehe! :-)

FYI that wheel will do fine.

>Why all of you can interrest themselves in a 67' car sim ?Because the simulated cars are fantastic to drive, and the era was sooo much more interesting than today. >Do u find pleasant to drive a very ugly old car ?Ugly is a *very* subjective term in this case :-) >I just try the demo and i didn't enjoy this game.Try the full version. You won't regret it if you have any interest at all in simulations. >I am still waiting for the ultimate racing sim.......maybe one day......GPL isn't perfect by a long shot. I doubt anything will be. But GPL is the closest we have to that (In my opinion and many others!) and you're missing out on a lot my not trying it. -- Cheers! Graeme Nash

FYI that wheel will do fine.

UGLY! Have you looked at that bug they call a Ferrari F199? The raised nose, narrow track F1 cars of today are some of the most ungainly racers out there. Sure they are as fast as stink, but they just don't have the elegance of say the late 70's thru the 80's F1 cars. The most Beautiful cars to my eye are the Le Mans cars of the 70's(Porche 917) or the Can Am cars when the McClarens and Chapparels where king. Even the 200mph Indy cars of a decade or so back look better than the beak-nosed 240mph racers that are common in Cart racing today. dave henrie ps...keep an eye out for World Sports Car. Possibly released this fall. Erwan Gourvenec wrote:

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> > Why all of you can interrest themselves in a 67' car sim ? > Do u find pleasant to drive a very ugly old car ? > I just try the demo and i didn't enjoy this game. > I am still waiting for the ultimate racing sim.......maybe one day...... > > Raymond L. Day <[email hidden]> a �crit dans le message : > Vt2O4.11681$[email hidden]... > > Just buy it. There is nothing like the online racing in Vroc. I used to > > get a lot of the racing games that came out and they would hold my > interest > > for a while, but nothing like this. I don't play games anymore. I only > run > > GPL. Everything else is just no fun. > > "MaXX" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > > news:[email hidden]... > > > > > > There so much enthusiasm for GPL here I'm tempted to buy it, > > > I know it's now on budget here in the UK but really don't > > > want to get into it without taking a peek first. > > > > > > Is the demo a true taster of the game? > > > Not bothered if graphics restricted, mainly interested in > > > getting a feel for the physics, will the demo allow me > > > to do this. > > > > > > I use an MS Precision Wheel, is this supported OK? > > > > > > TIA > > > > > > MaXX > > > >

Why all of you can interrest themselves in a 67' car sim ? Do u find pleasant to drive a very ugly old car ? I just try the demo and i didn't enjoy this game. I am still waiting for the ultimate racing sim.......maybe one day...... Raymond L. Day <[email hidden]> a �crit dans le message : Vt2O4.11681$[email hidden]... > Just buy it. There is nothing like the online racing in Vroc. I used to > get a lot of the racing games that came out and they would hold myinterest > for a while, but nothing like this. I don't play games anymore. I onlyrun

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> GPL. Everything else is just no fun. > "MaXX" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > news:[email hidden]... > > > > There so much enthusiasm for GPL here I'm tempted to buy it, > > I know it's now on budget here in the UK but really don't > > want to get into it without taking a peek first. > > > > Is the demo a true taster of the game? > > Not bothered if graphics restricted, mainly interested in > > getting a feel for the physics, will the demo allow me > > to do this. > > > > I use an MS Precision Wheel, is this supported OK? > > > > TIA > > > > MaXX > >

Erwan Gourvenec <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:YUCO4.2269$[email hidden]... > Why all of you can interrest themselves in a 67' car sim ? > Do u find pleasant to drive a very ugly old car ? > I just try the demo and i didn't enjoy this game. > I am still waiting for the ultimate racing sim.......maybe one day...... >Better build a coffin in the meantime then. Ultimate racing sims don't appear all that often, the last one I remember was late 1998...

Of course it's subjective, but UGLY? Look at the Lotus 49 or the Ferrari. They were smooth works of art, didn't look like lawn mowers with wings and things bolted on and scoops over the drivers' heads. Of course, driving a 1300 pound car with 750 horsepower and no wings to increase down force was (is) a challenge. Bill Yowell Graeme Nash wrote:

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> >Why all of you can interrest themselves in a 67' car sim ? > Because the simulated cars are fantastic to drive, and the era was sooo > much more interesting than today. > > >Do u find pleasant to drive a very ugly old car ? > Ugly is a *very* subjective term in this case :-) > > >I just try the demo and i didn't enjoy this game. > Try the full version. You won't regret it if you have any interest at > all in simulations. > > >I am still waiting for the ultimate racing sim.......maybe one day...... > GPL isn't perfect by a long shot. I doubt anything will be. But GPL is > the closest we have to that (In my opinion and many others!) and you're > missing out on a lot my not trying it. > > -- > Cheers! > Graeme Nash

ugly.. well u could be right, i jus enjoy the no wing cars myself Erwan Gourvenec wrote:

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> > Why all of you can interrest themselves in a 67' car sim ? > Do u find pleasant to drive a very ugly old car ? > I just try the demo and i didn't enjoy this game. > I am still waiting for the ultimate racing sim.......maybe one day...... > > Raymond L. Day <[email hidden]> a �crit dans le message : > Vt2O4.11681$[email hidden]... > > Just buy it. There is nothing like the online racing in Vroc. I used to > > get a lot of the racing games that came out and they would hold my > interest > > for a while, but nothing like this. I don't play games anymore. I only > run > > GPL. Everything else is just no fun. > > "MaXX" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > > news:[email hidden]... > > > > > > There so much enthusiasm for GPL here I'm tempted to buy it, > > > I know it's now on budget here in the UK but really don't > > > want to get into it without taking a peek first. > > > > > > Is the demo a true taster of the game? > > > Not bothered if graphics restricted, mainly interested in > > > getting a feel for the physics, will the demo allow me > > > to do this. > > > > > > I use an MS Precision Wheel, is this supported OK? > > > > > > TIA > > > > > > MaXX > > > >

In article <YUCO4.2269$[email hidden]>, "Erwan Gourvenec" <[email hidden]> writes: >Why all of you can interrest themselves in a 67' car sim ? >Do u find pleasant to drive a very ugly old car ? >I just try the demo and i didn't enjoy this game. >I am still waiting for the ultimate racing sim.......maybe one day...... > Ugly? Just because they're old? I think the 67 Lotus is a great looking car. I just can't *drive* it worth a damn... How new does a car have to be before you DO like it? By your criteria, you're discounting some great vehicles: Bugati Royale, Phaeton, etc... Eldred -- Tiger Stadium R.I.P. 1912-1999 Own Grand Prix Legends? Goto http://gpl.gamestats.com/vroc Never argue with an idiot. He brings you down to his level, then beats you with experience... Remove SPAM-OFF to reply.

> Why all of you can interrest themselves in a 67' car sim ? Many of us don't care about '67 at all! Best thing about '67 for me is it was only two years until the moon landing :-) Andrew McP

"Erwan Gourvenec" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:YUCO4.2269$[email hidden]... > Why all of you can interrest themselves in a 67' car sim ? Some of us remember these cars and the heroes who drove them first hand. We remember when racing circuits were at their majestic best before they were truncated into corporate and tv friendly venues and the ultimate challenge they presented. It's actually a '98 car sim based on the '67 season <G> > Do u find pleasant to drive a very ugly old car ? Absolutely plesant and extremely satisfying to master a real "drivers" challenge. Are you just another victim of the modern age throw away society? Old doesn't mean past it. BTW. Many of us see these cars as objects of beauty > I just try the demo and i didn't enjoy this game. The demo was bad and non representative of the final version. I doubt somehow that you would appreciate the full sim as you appear to have some pretty hard ingrained pre-conceived ideas about this era of racing in general. > I am still waiting for the ultimate racing sim.......maybe one day...... Ultimate by your own definition I guess. I hope you find what you are looking for in the near future. MS

In article <lz2O4.813$E44.16866@news6- win.server.ntlworld.com>, "Phil Lee" <[email hidden]> wrote: Have you noticed how, if Surtees is ahead of you on the grid, how he slows down to let you by at the start and then the next you see of him is a rapidly expanding image in your mirrors as you brake for Parabolica! Chris rote > >> Surtes ( yes, Surtes, i guess i >> didn't run over his dog after all <g>, people of GPL willknow what this >> means ) > >The bugger still runs into the back of me! I reckon I musthave run over >his entire family! > * Sent from RemarQ http://www.remarq.com The Internet's Discussion Network * The fastest and easiest way to search and participate in Usenet - Free!

Sure you can download the demo, but it takes a long while to get the hang of GPL. Much , much longer than any other sim yet released. When you do start to master these cars it is an incredibly satisfying feeling. If you want the best racing sim yet (and possibly for a while yet) then get GPL! Your wheel will work just fine. Chris In article <[email hidden]>, MaXX <[email hidden]> wrote:

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> >There so much enthusiasm for GPL here I'm tempted to buy it, >I know it's now on budget here in the UK but really don't >want to get into it without taking a peek first. > >Is the demo a true taster of the game? >Not bothered if graphics restricted, mainly interested in >getting a feel for the physics, will the demo allow me >to do this. > >I use an MS Precision Wheel, is this supported OK? > >TIA > >MaXX > >

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Erwan Gourvenec wrote: > Why all of you can interrest themselves in a 67' car sim ? > Do u find pleasant to drive a very ugly old car ? I guess beauty is in the eye of the beholder. I think cars of that era are very attractive - they look like race cars, not bill boards. To say nothing of the wonderful tracks from that time. Dave Ewing -- ***************************************************** David A. Ewing Xilinx Boulder [email hidden] *****************************************************

EH? The demo was brilliant.....I loved it and played it for weeks...I dont understand Ash SaddleTramp <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:Z53O4.7641$[email hidden]...

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| Ditto that! | | | | | "Colin" <colin AT yourmiata DOT COM> wrote in message | news:8ea5gn$stm$[email hidden]... | > I ran the demo and I hated it. | > I didn't even consider buying the game. | > Then I read this NG and couldn't fail to see the enthusiasm for GPL so I | > bought it. | > Haven't looked back since =) | > ...Colin | > | > MaXX <[email hidden]> wrote in message | > news:[email hidden]... | > > | > > There so much enthusiasm for GPL here I'm tempted to buy it, | > > I know it's now on budget here in the UK but really don't | > > want to get into it without taking a peek first. | > > | > > Is the demo a true taster of the game? | > > Not bothered if graphics restricted, mainly interested in | > > getting a feel for the physics, will the demo allow me | > > to do this. | > > | > > I use an MS Precision Wheel, is this supported OK? | > > | > > TIA | > > | > > MaXX | > | > | | | |