Re: I've finally done it!

When I bought GPL I ran the F2's exclusively until a few days ago when I took the plunge and tried the F1 cars. Picked the Ferrari, used A. Hine's setups and was stuck in the mid 1:32's. Decided to take a chance, jumped into the Lotus and within 5 laps I was doing 1:29 - 1:30 consistently. Give the Lotus a try. Braking is outstanding, superb balance on turn-in. It gets very squirrelly <sp> on acceleration out of turns though. ...Colin "Macca" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]... > On Sun, 30 Apr 2000 22:37:17 +0100, "Phil Lee" > <[email hidden]> wrote: > > >Today I can finally announce that I've broken the 1:30 barrier at Monzain > >GPL. I started the day with a best of 1:30.34 in a Lotus which I setabout > >8 weeks ago. Earlier today I got it down to 1:30.04 and about 10 minutes > >ago I did a 1:29.86, again in a Lotus. I'm over the moon! > > > > well done dude. Im stuck on a 1.31.78 in an eagle at the moment. May > need to change cars

Well done lad.... dave henrie Phil Lee wrote:

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> > Today I can finally announce that I've broken the 1:30 barrier at Monza in > GPL. I started the day with a best of 1:30.34 in a Lotus which I set about > 8 weeks ago. Earlier today I got it down to 1:30.04 and about 10 minutes > ago I did a 1:29.86, again in a Lotus. I'm over the moon! > > I put my sudden improvement down to three things. The first is a new setup > I've developed myself for the Lotus using the GRE utility. Now I finally > seem to have tamed the beast. I think the single most useful feature of GRE > is the ability to have bump stops of less than an inch. I ran with 0.5" > stops and a ride height of 3.75" which handles just right for my driving > style. Thanks to Nate and Alison Hine for their superb utility and help > document. > > The second reason for my improvement came from a post here a couple of days > ago. Someone, I can't remember who but they have my eternal thanks, said > that they had improved their times by braking earlier but less hard. I > started doing this today and it hasn't half made a difference. > > The final reason for my improvement is that I've been racing against the AI > with global hype disabled, rather than trying to set a record by hot > lapping. The drivers don't take any prisoners when you disable global hype. > The current lap record is held by John Surtees at 1:27.38! I've found that > I drive much faster when there is a fast driver behind me. On my record lap > I didn't get a tow from anyone on the whole lap but I was being followed > very closely throughout. It certainly seemed to improve my braking. > > Anyway, that's my little self congratulatory post finished. I just felt I > had to let out the great feeling somewhere. > > Now if I could only break 1:29.... > > Cheers > > Phil > > -- > http://www.youpies.co.uk

Today I can finally announce that I've broken the 1:30 barrier at Monza in GPL. I started the day with a best of 1:30.34 in a Lotus which I set about 8 weeks ago. Earlier today I got it down to 1:30.04 and about 10 minutes ago I did a 1:29.86, again in a Lotus. I'm over the moon! I put my sudden improvement down to three things. The first is a new setup I've developed myself for the Lotus using the GRE utility. Now I finally seem to have tamed the beast. I think the single most useful feature of GRE is the ability to have bump stops of less than an inch. I ran with 0.5" stops and a ride height of 3.75" which handles just right for my driving style. Thanks to Nate and Alison Hine for their superb utility and help document. The second reason for my improvement came from a post here a couple of days ago. Someone, I can't remember who but they have my eternal thanks, said that they had improved their times by braking earlier but less hard. I started doing this today and it hasn't half made a difference. The final reason for my improvement is that I've been racing against the AI with global hype disabled, rather than trying to set a record by hot lapping. The drivers don't take any prisoners when you disable global hype. The current lap record is held by John Surtees at 1:27.38! I've found that I drive much faster when there is a fast driver behind me. On my record lap I didn't get a tow from anyone on the whole lap but I was being followed very closely throughout. It certainly seemed to improve my braking. Anyway, that's my little self congratulatory post finished. I just felt I had to let out the great feeling somewhere. Now if I could only break 1:29.... Cheers Phil -- http://www.youpies.co.uk

Phil Lee <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:vJ1P4.3816$[email hidden]... > Today I can finally announce that I've broken the 1:30 barrier at Monza in > GPL.<<snipped>> > The final reason for my improvement is that I've been racing against theAI > with global hype disabled, rather than trying to set a record by hot > lapping. The drivers don't take any prisoners when you disable globalhype. > The current lap record is held by John Surtees at 1:27.38! I've foundthat > I drive much faster when there is a fast driver behind me. On my recordlap

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> I didn't get a tow from anyone on the whole lap but I was being followed > very closely throughout. It certainly seemed to improve my braking. > > Anyway, that's my little self congratulatory post finished. I just felt I > had to let out the great feeling somewhere. > > Now if I could only break 1:29.... > > Cheers > > Phil >

Well done, although I assume you do realise that as you were being followed closely, that can have a similar effect to getting a tow.

In article <8eiuti$18t$[email hidden]>, "Colin" <[email hidden]> writes:

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>When I bought GPL I ran the F2's exclusively until a few days ago when I >took the plunge and tried the F1 cars. >Picked the Ferrari, used A. Hine's setups and was stuck in the mid 1:32's. >Decided to take a chance, jumped into the Lotus and within 5 laps I was >doing 1:29 - 1:30 consistently. >Give the Lotus a try. Braking is outstanding, superb balance on turn-in. >It gets very squirrelly <sp> on acceleration out of turns though. >...Colin >

How do you guys DRIVE the Lotus? I could handle the acceleration out of turns. It's the skittishness(izzat a word?) during braking that gets me... Eldred -- Tiger Stadium R.I.P. 1912-1999 Own Grand Prix Legends? Goto http://gpl.gamestats.com/vroc Never argue with an idiot. He brings you down to his level, then beats you with experience... Remove SPAM-OFF to reply.

In article <vJ1P4.3816$[email hidden]>, [email hidden] (Phil Lee) wrote:

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> Today I can finally announce that I've broken the 1:30 barrier at > Monza in > GPL. I started the day with a best of 1:30.34 in a Lotus which I set > about > 8 weeks ago. Earlier today I got it down to 1:30.04 and about 10 > minutes > ago I did a 1:29.86, again in a Lotus. I'm over the moon! > > I put my sudden improvement down to three things. The first is a new > setup > I've developed myself for the Lotus using the GRE utility. Now I > finally > seem to have tamed the beast. I think the single most useful feature > of GRE > is the ability to have bump stops of less than an inch. I ran with > 0.5" > stops and a ride height of 3.75" which handles just right for my > driving > style. Thanks to Nate and Alison Hine for their superb utility and > help > document. > > The second reason for my improvement came from a post here a couple > of days > ago. Someone, I can't remember who but they have my eternal thanks, > said > that they had improved their times by braking earlier but less hard. > I > started doing this today and it hasn't half made a difference. > > The final reason for my improvement is that I've been racing against > the AI > with global hype disabled, rather than trying to set a record by hot > lapping. The drivers don't take any prisoners when you disable > global hype. > The current lap record is held by John Surtees at 1:27.38! I've > found that > I drive much faster when there is a fast driver behind me. On my > record lap > I didn't get a tow from anyone on the whole lap but I was being > followed > very closely throughout. It certainly seemed to improve my braking. > > Anyway, that's my little self congratulatory post finished. I just > felt I > had to let out the great feeling somewhere. > > Now if I could only break 1:29.... > > Cheers > > Phil

Very well done, it is a real achievement. I only got below 1:30 a couple of months ago, but have since done it a few times. Leaving Monza for a while and trying other tracks, then going back to Monza helped a lot. Well done.... 8-) *Peter* - http://www.cix.co.uk/~peterpc/home.html

>well done dude. Im stuck on a 1.31.78 in >an eagle at the moment. May >need to change cars If you feel like commiting a cardinal sin then go ahead. But my advice is stay with the Eagle. I tried switching cars when i was stuck in the high 1:30s for a month or so and it didnt help at all. I just ran high 1:30s in a different car. Chris

On Sun, 30 Apr 2000 22:37:17 +0100, "Phil Lee" <[email hidden]> wrote: >Today I can finally announce that I've broken the 1:30 barrier at Monza in >GPL. I started the day with a best of 1:30.34 in a Lotus which I set about >8 weeks ago. Earlier today I got it down to 1:30.04 and about 10 minutes >ago I did a 1:29.86, again in a Lotus. I'm over the moon! > well done dude. Im stuck on a 1.31.78 in an eagle at the moment. May need to change cars

Nice one Phil... what took you so long to start adjusting the car to suit your own driving style tho'?? Jan. =--- Phil Lee wrote... > <snip> The first is a new setup I've developed myself for the Lotus using > the GRE utility. Now I finally > seem to have tamed the beast. I think > the single most useful feature of GRE is the ability to have bump stops > of less than an inch. I ran with 0.5" stops and a ride height of 3.75" > which handles just right for my driving style.

You're probably hitting the bumpstops on braking. This was my problem which I solved using GRE. I've attached the setup I used for my 1:29.86 which you may like to try. It has low bump stops and a high ride height to sort out the braking problems. Cheers Phil -- http://www.youpies.co.uk EldredP <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]... > In article <8eiuti$18t$[email hidden]>, "Colin" > <[email hidden]> writes: > > >When I bought GPL I ran the F2's exclusively until a few days ago when I > >took the plunge and tried the F1 cars. > >Picked the Ferrari, used A. Hine's setups and was stuck in the mid 1:32's. > >Decided to take a chance, jumped into the Lotus and within 5 laps I was > >doing 1:29 - 1:30 consistently. > >Give the Lotus a try. Braking is outstanding, superb balance on turn-in. > >It gets very squirrelly <sp> on acceleration out of turns though. > >...Colin > > > > How do you guys DRIVE the Lotus? I could handle the acceleration out of turns. > It's the skittishness(izzat a word?) during braking that gets me... > > Eldred > -- > Tiger Stadium R.I.P. 1912-1999 > Own Grand Prix Legends? Goto http://gpl.gamestats.com/vroc > > Never argue with an idiot. He brings you down to his level, then beats you > with experience... > Remove SPAM-OFF to reply. begin 666 Phil Lot Monza x6 Race.lo1 M4$=44P,```#Y````Q$XLP `````E21) 6EK:/S,SLS^KJIH_Z:*+/P``@#]F M9D9 ! `````````)````& ```#$```!#````3P```%,```!9``````#P00`` MJD(``*!!``"@00``H$$``*!!``"J0@``JD(``/!"``#P0@(````"`````P`` M``,````#`````P````0````$``````! OP``@+X``("_````OP``2$0``$A$ M``!(1 ``2$0``.! ``#@0 ``X$ ``.! ````/P```#\````_````/YJ9F3T` G```````T0P``%D,``&! ``!@0 0```#T_0Q!``!003H`````(" @ ` end

In article <[email hidden]>, Dave Henrie <[email hidden]> writes:

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> My third thankyou post...Phil this is the setup I've >been looking for...and thanks to the Eagle twins Alison and >her brother for producing GRE. I HATED the Lotus. I would try >default setups, fast lap setups , setups that the author claimed >were very stable and still I'd be swapping ends several times a lap. >here's the result of my firt offline race with your setup. >11 laps Intermediate ># of laps UNDER my PB...5 ># of spins..............1 ># of times I didn't lock up at all approaching Parabolica...2 ># of botched approaches to the Parabolica...2 ># of times I passed and repassed Ginther....6 ># of times I got lapped.....0 ># of time I sighted Surtees..0 (still have work to do) > So Far I've lowered 2 seconds off my Sluggomatic PB... >I'm sure I've got another second at least... >OH! AND HERE'S a FIRST.. ># of time I had to BRAKE HARD to keep from ramming the >AI at Lesmos...............2! > >dave (slowpoke rodriquez){lazy cousin of Speedy Gonzales} henrie

But where did you finish????<g> Eldred p.s. I forgot to tol' you - Slowpoke Rodriguez, he pack a gun... -- Tiger Stadium R.I.P. 1912-1999 Own Grand Prix Legends? Goto http://gpl.gamestats.com/vroc Never argue with an idiot. He brings you down to his level, then beats you with experience... Remove SPAM-OFF to reply.

In article <kwnP4.4491$[email hidden]>, "Phil Lee" <[email hidden]> writes:

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>You're probably hitting the bumpstops on braking. This was my problem which >I solved using GRE. I've attached the setup I used for my 1:29.86 which you >may like to try. It has low bump stops and a high ride height to sort out >the braking problems. > >Cheers > >Phil

Thanks, Phil. I'll give it a shot. Eldred p.s. please don't be mad if I wreck your car the first few times out...<g> -- Tiger Stadium R.I.P. 1912-1999 Own Grand Prix Legends? Goto http://gpl.gamestats.com/vroc Never argue with an idiot. He brings you down to his level, then beats you with experience... Remove SPAM-OFF to reply.

My third thankyou post...Phil this is the setup I've been looking for...and thanks to the Eagle twins Alison and her brother for producing GRE. I HATED the Lotus. I would try default setups, fast lap setups , setups that the author claimed were very stable and still I'd be swapping ends several times a lap. here's the result of my firt offline race with your setup. 11 laps Intermediate # of laps UNDER my PB...5 # of spins..............1 # of times I didn't lock up at all approaching Parabolica...2 # of botched approaches to the Parabolica...2 # of times I passed and repassed Ginther....6 # of times I got lapped.....0 # of time I sighted Surtees..0 (still have work to do) So Far I've lowered 2 seconds off my Sluggomatic PB... I'm sure I've got another second at least... OH! AND HERE'S a FIRST.. # of time I had to BRAKE HARD to keep from ramming the AI at Lesmos...............2! dave (slowpoke rodriquez){lazy cousin of Speedy Gonzales} henrie Phil Lee wrote:

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> > You're probably hitting the bumpstops on braking. This was my problem which > I solved using GRE. I've attached the setup I used for my 1:29.86 which you > may like to try. It has low bump stops and a high ride height to sort out > the braking problems. > > Cheers > > Phil > > -- > http://www.youpies.co.uk > > EldredP <[email hidden]> wrote in message > news:[email hidden]... > > In article <8eiuti$18t$[email hidden]>, "Colin" > > <[email hidden]> writes: > > > > >When I bought GPL I ran the F2's exclusively until a few days ago when I > > >took the plunge and tried the F1 cars. > > >Picked the Ferrari, used A. Hine's setups and was stuck in the mid > 1:32's. > > >Decided to take a chance, jumped into the Lotus and within 5 laps I was > > >doing 1:29 - 1:30 consistently. > > >Give the Lotus a try. Braking is outstanding, superb balance on turn-in. > > >It gets very squirrelly <sp> on acceleration out of turns though. > > >...Colin > > > > > > > How do you guys DRIVE the Lotus? I could handle the acceleration out of > turns. > > It's the skittishness(izzat a word?) during braking that gets me... > > > > Eldred > > -- > > Tiger Stadium R.I.P. 1912-1999 > > Own Grand Prix Legends? Goto http://gpl.gamestats.com/vroc > > > > Never argue with an idiot. He brings you down to his level, then beats > you > > with experience... > > Remove SPAM-OFF to reply. > > Name: Phil Lot Monza x6 Race.lo1 > Phil Lot Monza x6 Race.lo1 Type: unspecified type (application/octet-stream) > Encoding: x-uuencode

uh ... i forgot! EldredP wrote:

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> > In article <[email hidden]>, Dave Henrie <[email hidden]> writes: > > > My third thankyou post...Phil this is the setup I've > >been looking for...and thanks to the Eagle twins Alison and > >her brother for producing GRE. I HATED the Lotus. I would try > >default setups, fast lap setups , setups that the author claimed > >were very stable and still I'd be swapping ends several times a lap. > >here's the result of my firt offline race with your setup. > >11 laps Intermediate > ># of laps UNDER my PB...5 > ># of spins..............1 > ># of times I didn't lock up at all approaching Parabolica...2 > ># of botched approaches to the Parabolica...2 > ># of times I passed and repassed Ginther....6 > ># of times I got lapped.....0 > ># of time I sighted Surtees..0 (still have work to do) > > So Far I've lowered 2 seconds off my Sluggomatic PB... > >I'm sure I've got another second at least... > >OH! AND HERE'S a FIRST.. > ># of time I had to BRAKE HARD to keep from ramming the > >AI at Lesmos...............2! > > > >dave (slowpoke rodriquez){lazy cousin of Speedy Gonzales} henrie > > But where did you finish????<g> > > Eldred > p.s. I forgot to tol' you - Slowpoke Rodriguez, he pack a gun... > > -- > Tiger Stadium R.I.P. 1912-1999 > Own Grand Prix Legends? Goto http://gpl.gamestats.com/vroc > > Never argue with an idiot. He brings you down to his level, then beats you > with experience... > Remove SPAM-OFF to reply.