Re: GPL System Questions

I think your main problem is with the 4MB card. Even though it's rendition, I think I remeber reading somewhere that GPL essentially eats 8MB of VRAM when you fire it up. With only 4 on the card, you're going to loading up the CPU with physics and graphics and I don't think you'll see the results you're looking for. Training mode should be ok. Have you tried the demo? It should give you a fair representation with your rendition. -/-WW "Tony Jones" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]...

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> > Yep...you're right, it's $14.99 here....but I don't want to buy > something that I can't play on my current system. Having it and not be > able to play it would be worse than not having it at all. :-) > > The Stealth II S220 is a Rendition card which I heard works well with > GPL (along with ICR2, N2, etc). > > Sure upgrading would be the best and ideal solution, but it's not an > option for me at the moment....besides, all the games I currently like > to play at the moment work fine...GP2, ICR2, N2. > > I appreciate the reply though. > > Tony. > > > On Sun, 30 Apr 2000 21:02:06 GMT, "Simon Brown" > <[email hidden]> wrote: > > >I'm amazed people are so reluctant to buy GPL. Doesn't it only cost

$14.99 > >(�9.99) or something? ;) > >Anyway, your main problem is that video card (It doesn't sound like a3dfx > >card). You may get GPL to run with the OpenGL beta2 patch fromwww.papy.com > >but it won't be very fast. > >Give some serious consideration to replacing your video card with aVoodoo 3

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> >2000 or 3000. Even with a V3 you wouldn't get good frame rates in races > >(because of the Pro 180), but you would be able to play the game. > >What GPL really needs is a 400-500 MHz P2/P3/Athlon along with a Voodoo > >2/3/4/5. Almost all new games need this sort of system though, so maybe > >it's time to upgrade. > >Cya, > >Simon. > > > > >

Hello: I have the following system: Pentium Pro 180/256K cache Diamond Stealth II S220 4Meg Vid Card 64Megs of RAM I'm interested in GPL, but was wondering what I could expect on the above system. Will I get a decent frame rate without having to turn off alot of the graphics options? I wouldn't mind running it at 640x480 too much as long as I don't have to turn the graphics way down. I really don't want to buy GPL and then have to turn off most of the featuers/etc. In other words...I still want it to look good. :-) Anyone experienced GPL on a system like this or have any feedback? Would be appreciated. Thanks, Tony.

you'll be able to run it, but most of the graphics will have to be turned off. Solo you should be able to handle the road, walls, and horizon, but online you might have to cut even the hills out... Your card will work fine...just the whole system is a little underpowred for GPL dave henrie Tony Jones wrote:

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> > Hello: > > I have the following system: > > Pentium Pro 180/256K cache > Diamond Stealth II S220 4Meg Vid Card > 64Megs of RAM > > I'm interested in GPL, but was wondering what I could expect on the > above system. Will I get a decent frame rate without having to turn > off alot of the graphics options? I wouldn't mind running it at > 640x480 too much as long as I don't have to turn the graphics way > down. > > I really don't want to buy GPL and then have to turn off most of the > featuers/etc. In other words...I still want it to look good. :-) > > Anyone experienced GPL on a system like this or have any feedback? > Would be appreciated. > > Thanks, > > Tony.

Yep...you're right, it's $14.99 here....but I don't want to buy something that I can't play on my current system. Having it and not be able to play it would be worse than not having it at all. :-) The Stealth II S220 is a Rendition card which I heard works well with GPL (along with ICR2, N2, etc). Sure upgrading would be the best and ideal solution, but it's not an option for me at the moment....besides, all the games I currently like to play at the moment work fine...GP2, ICR2, N2. I appreciate the reply though. Tony. On Sun, 30 Apr 2000 21:02:06 GMT, "Simon Brown" <[email hidden]> wrote:

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>I'm amazed people are so reluctant to buy GPL. Doesn't it only cost $14.99 >(�9.99) or something? ;) >Anyway, your main problem is that video card (It doesn't sound like a 3dfx >card). You may get GPL to run with the OpenGL beta2 patch from www.papy.com >but it won't be very fast. >Give some serious consideration to replacing your video card with a Voodoo 3 >2000 or 3000. Even with a V3 you wouldn't get good frame rates in races >(because of the Pro 180), but you would be able to play the game. >What GPL really needs is a 400-500 MHz P2/P3/Athlon along with a Voodoo >2/3/4/5. Almost all new games need this sort of system though, so maybe >it's time to upgrade. >Cya, >Simon. > >

I used to run GPL on a pentium 200 mmx with a stealth 2 s220, no u don't need the Opengl patch and it will run ok.... However with grfx details turned down quite aways. I couldn't run online with gfx at an acceptable level at the tracks with the concrete tires, like rouen and mexico I don't know how your ppro will run it, maybe better than my p200, a V2 SLI rig would probably help u out quite abit. Give it a shot, your system is due for an upgrade anyways +) Md Simon Brown wrote:

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> > I'm amazed people are so reluctant to buy GPL. Doesn't it only cost $14.99 > (�9.99) or something? ;) > Anyway, your main problem is that video card (It doesn't sound like a 3dfx > card). You may get GPL to run with the OpenGL beta2 patch from www.papy.com > but it won't be very fast. > Give some serious consideration to replacing your video card with a Voodoo 3 > 2000 or 3000. Even with a V3 you wouldn't get good frame rates in races > (because of the Pro 180), but you would be able to play the game. > What GPL really needs is a 400-500 MHz P2/P3/Athlon along with a Voodoo > 2/3/4/5. Almost all new games need this sort of system though, so maybe > it's time to upgrade. > Cya, > Simon.

I'm amazed people are so reluctant to buy GPL. Doesn't it only cost $14.99 (�9.99) or something? ;) Anyway, your main problem is that video card (It doesn't sound like a 3dfx card). You may get GPL to run with the OpenGL beta2 patch from www.papy.com but it won't be very fast. Give some serious consideration to replacing your video card with a Voodoo 3 2000 or 3000. Even with a V3 you wouldn't get good frame rates in races (because of the Pro 180), but you would be able to play the game. What GPL really needs is a 400-500 MHz P2/P3/Athlon along with a Voodoo 2/3/4/5. Almost all new games need this sort of system though, so maybe it's time to upgrade. Cya, Simon.

Haven't tried the demo...yet. I'm downloading it right now and will give it a try with my system. :-) Appreciate all the feedback guys. Tony. On Sun, 30 Apr 2000 15:41:23 -0700, "Walk Walker" <[email hidden]> wrote:

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>I think your main problem is with the 4MB card. Even though it's rendition, >I think I remeber reading somewhere that GPL essentially eats 8MB of VRAM >when you fire it up. With only 4 on the card, you're going to loading up the >CPU with physics and graphics and I don't think you'll see the results >you're looking for. Training mode should be ok. Have you tried the demo? It >should give you a fair representation with your rendition. > >-/-WW >"Tony Jones" <[email hidden]> wrote in message >news:[email hidden]... >> >> Yep...you're right, it's $14.99 here....but I don't want to buy >> something that I can't play on my current system. Having it and not be >> able to play it would be worse than not having it at all. :-) >> >> The Stealth II S220 is a Rendition card which I heard works well with >> GPL (along with ICR2, N2, etc). >> >> Sure upgrading would be the best and ideal solution, but it's not an >> option for me at the moment....besides, all the games I currently like >> to play at the moment work fine...GP2, ICR2, N2. >> >> I appreciate the reply though. >> >> Tony. >> >> >> On Sun, 30 Apr 2000 21:02:06 GMT, "Simon Brown" >> <[email hidden]> wrote: >> >> >I'm amazed people are so reluctant to buy GPL. Doesn't it only cost >$14.99 >> >(�9.99) or something? ;) >> >Anyway, your main problem is that video card (It doesn't sound like a >3dfx >> >card). You may get GPL to run with the OpenGL beta2 patch from >www.papy.com >> >but it won't be very fast. >> >Give some serious consideration to replacing your video card with a >Voodoo 3 >> >2000 or 3000. Even with a V3 you wouldn't get good frame rates in races >> >(because of the Pro 180), but you would be able to play the game. >> >What GPL really needs is a 400-500 MHz P2/P3/Athlon along with a Voodoo >> >2/3/4/5. Almost all new games need this sort of system though, so maybe >> >it's time to upgrade. >> >Cya, >> >Simon. >> > >> > >> > >

Oops...didn't realize it was a rendtion. A rendition card is excellent for GPL. You will definitely be able to play the game in training mode, but you will struggle with races. Even if you can't upgrade, I still think you will get some fun out of it with your current system. cya, Simon.

In article <KfgP4.6372$[email hidden]>, [email hidden] (Ian P) wrote: > Hehe, that is so true it's scary !!!!! :) > > -- > Ian Parker Yep, it sure is true Ian! My first major pc upgrade was when GP2 came out, then a complete PC rebuild was made for GPL. Now I've recently been browsing the PC mags to work out how much an upgrade will cost me, all in anticipation of GP3..... 8-) *Peter* - http://www.cix.co.uk/~peterpc/home.html

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>Yep...it's way to slow on my current system....however I'll pass on >GPL and keep my machine...I honestly can't see buying a new machine >just to play a game! My current system performs very well for my needs >and the games that I play now. > >Tony. >

C'mon, Tony - I'm sure there are PLENTY of people here who have upgraded for one or two games... Let's face it - you don't need an Athlon 800 with a Voodoo3 for MS Word...<g> Hell, I even have a Novell 4.11 server running on a 486/33... :) Eldred -- Tiger Stadium R.I.P. 1912-1999 Own Grand Prix Legends? Goto http://gpl.gamestats.com/vroc Never argue with an idiot. He brings you down to his level, then beats you with experience... Remove SPAM-OFF to reply.

In article <[email hidden]>, [email hidden] (Tony Jones) writes: >LOL - I would love to...but if I upgraded my machine before I did my >wifes machine I would definitely be in the dog house then! ;-) Why? You're the head of the household, so you naturally deserve the strongest system.... Note: I ain't married...<g, d, & r> Eldred -- Tiger Stadium R.I.P. 1912-1999 Own Grand Prix Legends? Goto http://gpl.gamestats.com/vroc Never argue with an idiot. He brings you down to his level, then beats you with experience... Remove SPAM-OFF to reply.

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>Hello: > > I have the following system: > > Pentium Pro 180/256K cache > Diamond Stealth II S220 4Meg Vid Card > 64Megs of RAM > >I'm interested in GPL, but was wondering what I could expect on the >above system. Will I get a decent frame rate without having to turn >off alot of the graphics options? I wouldn't mind running it at >640x480 too much as long as I don't have to turn the graphics way >down. > >I really don't want to buy GPL and then have to turn off most of the >featuers/etc. In other words...I still want it to look good. :-) > >Anyone experienced GPL on a system like this or have any feedback? >Would be appreciated. > >Thanks, > > Tony.

Well, since you asked an opinion - get a stronger machine first. You'll probably have to turn off too much detail to be able to race against anyone - AI or VROC... Eldred -- Tiger Stadium R.I.P. 1912-1999 Own Grand Prix Legends? Goto http://gpl.gamestats.com/vroc Never argue with an idiot. He brings you down to his level, then beats you with experience... Remove SPAM-OFF to reply.

Yep...it's way to slow on my current system....however I'll pass on GPL and keep my machine...I honestly can't see buying a new machine just to play a game! My current system performs very well for my needs and the games that I play now. Tony. On 01 May 2000 00:51:28 GMT, [email hidden] (EldredP) wrote:

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>Well, since you asked an opinion - get a stronger machine first. You'll >probably have to turn off too much detail to be able to race against anyone - >AI or VROC... > >Eldred >-- >Tiger Stadium R.I.P. 1912-1999 >Own Grand Prix Legends? Goto http://gpl.gamestats.com/vroc > >Never argue with an idiot. He brings you down to his level, then beats you >with experience... >Remove SPAM-OFF to reply.

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> > Yep...it's way to slow on my current system....however I'll pass on > GPL and keep my machine...I honestly can't see buying a new machine > just to play a game! My current system performs very well for my needs > and the games that I play now. > > Tony.

Come on now Tony...join the gang! Treat yourself to this harmless little $15 racing game, then proceed to spend $1000 dollars upgrading your computer so you can shave a couple of seconds off your PB at Monza. Give it a go and you'll be hooked! Besides, the money you save by not going out and having a life should easily pay for a new computer. Gary

Hehe, that is so true it's scary !!!!! :) -- Ian Parker ==

Yeah, it beats the hell out of spending $10,000 to $10,000,000+ a year to race for real, and it is safer! Where else can you race cars from 1967 against the best there was for ~$20 (not including the $2000 for the new computer!) :-) SLG Gary Stephenson <[email hidden]> wrote:

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>Tony Jones wrote: >> >> Yep...it's way to slow on my current system....however I'll pass on >> GPL and keep my machine...I honestly can't see buying a new machine >> just to play a game! My current system performs very well for my needs >> and the games that I play now. >> >> Tony. > >Come on now Tony...join the gang! Treat yourself to this harmless little >$15 racing game, then proceed to spend $1000 dollars upgrading your >computer so you can shave a couple of seconds off your PB at Monza. Give >it a go and you'll be hooked! Besides, the money you save by not going >out and having a life should easily pay for a new computer. > >Gary > >

(All spelling errors are intentional and are there to show new and improved ways of spelling old words. Grammatical errors are due to too many English classes/teachers)

LOL - I would love to...but if I upgraded my machine before I did my wifes machine I would definitely be in the dog house then! ;-) Tony. On Mon, 01 May 2000 01:45:00 -0700, Gary Stephenson <[email hidden]> wrote:

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>Come on now Tony...join the gang! Treat yourself to this harmless little >$15 racing game, then proceed to spend $1000 dollars upgrading your >computer so you can shave a couple of seconds off your PB at Monza. Give >it a go and you'll be hooked! Besides, the money you save by not going >out and having a life should easily pay for a new computer. > >Gary

Wife? don't worry about her, she be leaving you within a year anyhow..name one person here that was married when they started GPL and still is... dave henrie Tony Jones wrote:

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> > LOL - I would love to...but if I upgraded my machine before I did my > wifes machine I would definitely be in the dog house then! ;-) > > Tony. > > On Mon, 01 May 2000 01:45:00 -0700, Gary Stephenson > <[email hidden]> wrote: > >Come on now Tony...join the gang! Treat yourself to this harmless little > >$15 racing game, then proceed to spend $1000 dollars upgrading your > >computer so you can shave a couple of seconds off your PB at Monza. Give > >it a go and you'll be hooked! Besides, the money you save by not going > >out and having a life should easily pay for a new computer. > > > >Gary

Tony Jones wrote: > > LOL - I would love to...but if I upgraded my machine before I did my > wifes machine I would definitely be in the dog house then! ;-) > > Tony. You kidding? Do like I do. Hop your machine up to the hilt, and then give the 'ol lady & kids your old machine. The family looks forward to *my* hardware upgrades! <g> -- Chuck Kandler #70 K&S Racing http://www.fortunecity.com/silverstone/thepits/195 Competitor in the TopGear MGPRS2 league at: http://topgear.dhs.org/ Come on & join the fun! They'll call you names And spit in your face, But legends never die. --Gene Simmons

Hehe, that is so true it's scary !!!!! :) -- Ian Parker == Gary Stephenson <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]... > > Come on now Tony...join the gang! Treat yourself to this harmless little > $15 racing game, then proceed to spend $1000 dollars upgrading your > computer so you can shave a couple of seconds off your PB at Monza. Give > it a go and you'll be hooked! Besides, the money you save by not going > out and having a life should easily pay for a new computer. > > Gary > >

Maybe just a little...but she does use her computer as much as I do mine, which is alot! Not too surprising though...considering we did meet online. :-) Tony. On Mon, 01 May 2000 15:10:33 GMT, Chuck Kandler <[email hidden]> wrote:

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>You kidding? Do like I do. Hop your machine up to the hilt, and then >give the 'ol lady & kids your old machine. The family looks forward to >*my* hardware upgrades! <g> > >-- >Chuck Kandler #70 >K&S Racing >http://www.fortunecity.com/silverstone/thepits/195 > >Competitor in the TopGear MGPRS2 league at: >http://topgear.dhs.org/ Come on & join the fun! > >They'll call you names >And spit in your face, >But legends never die. --Gene Simmons

No doubt about it. I will probably upgrade my machine......especially when GP3 comes out, one game that I'm eagerly anticipationg...if not sooner....so that I can play GPL. :-) Tony. On 01 May 2000 22:08:42 GMT, [email hidden] (EldredP) wrote:

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>C'mon, Tony - I'm sure there are PLENTY of people here who have upgraded for >one or two games... Let's face it - you don't need an Athlon 800 with a >Voodoo3 for MS Word...<g> Hell, I even have a Novell 4.11 server running on a >486/33... :) > >Eldred >-- >Tiger Stadium R.I.P. 1912-1999 >Own Grand Prix Legends? Goto http://gpl.gamestats.com/vroc > >Never argue with an idiot. He brings you down to his level, then beats you >with experience... >Remove SPAM-OFF to reply.

I got married during the GPL period, she's still here too !!! Only thing is I had to go away on honeymooon, so no GPL for a week ;) -- Ian Parker == Dave Henrie <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]... > Wife? don't worry about her, she be leaving you within a year > anyhow..name one person here that was married when they started GPL and > still is... > dave henrie >

You'd better remortgage the Wife, GP3 is gonna be a monster to run ;) -- Ian Parker == <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:8ektmd$797$[email hidden]... > In article <KfgP4.6372$[email hidden]>, > [email hidden] (Ian P) wrote: > > > Hehe, that is so true it's scary !!!!! :) > > > > -- > > Ian Parker > > Yep, it sure is true Ian! My first major pc upgrade was when GP2 came > out, then a complete PC rebuild was made for GPL. Now I've recently been > browsing the PC mags to work out how much an upgrade will cost me, all > in anticipation of GP3..... > > 8-) > > *Peter* - http://www.cix.co.uk/~peterpc/home.html

Tony Jones wrote: > > LOL - I would love to...but if I upgraded my machine before I did my > wifes machine I would definitely be in the dog house then! ;-) Woof-woof! You won't regret it <hehehe>