EAthunder 2004 sterring and launching problems

Got a couple of questions and I know it's not as good as Nascar2003 from Papy. I've got a p-4 2.4gigahertz processor,766 meg of Ram, a Geforce 5200 card 128mg and 25 gig left on the hard drive. I've also got a Logitech Momo (black) force feed wheel. First question is, when I try and launch the game from the Logitech profiler, I get a message that says " must have 256mg of disk space free to run this application". I've got 25 gig on the hard drive. N2003 ran fine as does my flight simulator. I have removed N2003 so that's not a conflict. Second question, when I run it from the icon outside the profiler, it launches fine but when I drive it, the wheel has "catches" in it that make turning the wheel and controling the amount of resistance difficult. At the left and right side, it's real easy but toward the middle it gets hards and releases to very easy without warning. This causes you to oversteer. Again, I had no problem in N2003. Has anyone had those problems with a similar system and if so, how did you correct it?

"bill jones" <[email hidden]> wrote in news:8J0Bd.307267$HA.30512@attbi_s01:

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> Got a couple of questions and I know it's not as good as Nascar2003 > from Papy. I've got a p-4 2.4gigahertz processor,766 meg of Ram, a > Geforce 5200 card 128mg and 25 gig left on the hard drive. I've also > got a Logitech Momo (black) force feed wheel. First question is, when > I try and launch the game from the Logitech profiler, I get a message > that says " must have 256mg of disk space free to run this > application". I've got 25 gig on the hard drive. N2003 ran fine as > does my flight simulator. I have removed N2003 so that's not a > conflict. Second question, when I run it from the icon outside the > profiler, it launches fine but when I drive it, the wheel has > "catches" in it that make turning the wheel and controling the amount > of resistance difficult. At the left and right side, it's real easy > but toward the middle it gets hards and releases to very easy without > warning. This causes you to oversteer. Again, I had no problem in > N2003. Has anyone had those problems with a similar system and if so, > how did you correct it? > > >

I have only run the demo, but you probably will have to create a profile in the logitech software for your wheel and the thunder .exe. 2 profiles if you have a nocd.exe. IT sounds like your wheel has a setting that is maxxed out in the center range and lessened for the far extents (extants?) First in the game set all your steering and pedal axis to 50% For the Force Feedback setting choose NEGATIVE numbers from the slider. (this is for LOGITECH owners only) So instead of 100% choose, -100%. Try reducing the FF settings until the notchiness goes away..again.. somewhere around -80 or -90% or even closer to zero, your preference. For a slight mechanical understeer move the steering slider just below the 50% setting, your testing will reveal a comfort zone. If you want some oversteer built into your kit, then move the steering slider to above 50%. Don't make big changes. Move it in small increments and drive it till it feels natural to you. In the logitch profiler, again, set the steering and brake sliders to approximentally 50%. The farther from the center, the more the Linearity setting changes. So if you used 100% Linearity in Papyrus sims, you need to place your wheel axis and pedals at 50%. To much in one direction and the wheel becomes oversensitive near the middle, meaning any tiny twitch moves the wheel almost to full crank. Move the opposite direction and the steering near the middle gets lazy, while the closer to full lock you get, the more nervous the reaction. And point at least one version of the profiler to the shortcut icon.(or, if that doesn't work, make sure it uses the same target at the shortcut) It should be able to properly start up then. Good luck.. I can't verify this, but it comes from several years of ISI modd experience. dh

Thanks Dave, I can always count on you for good advice. I already started some of your suggestions and it's getting better. Any ideas on the 256mg problem? Since I can't launch the game from the profiler, I can't set any of the menu buttons in profiler(lap info, etc). "Dave Henrie" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]...

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> "bill jones" <[email hidden]> wrote in > news:8J0Bd.307267$HA.30512@attbi_s01: > > > Got a couple of questions and I know it's not as good as Nascar2003 > > from Papy. I've got a p-4 2.4gigahertz processor,766 meg of Ram, a > > Geforce 5200 card 128mg and 25 gig left on the hard drive. I've also > > got a Logitech Momo (black) force feed wheel. First question is, when > > I try and launch the game from the Logitech profiler, I get a message > > that says " must have 256mg of disk space free to run this > > application". I've got 25 gig on the hard drive. N2003 ran fine as > > does my flight simulator. I have removed N2003 so that's not a > > conflict. Second question, when I run it from the icon outside the > > profiler, it launches fine but when I drive it, the wheel has > > "catches" in it that make turning the wheel and controling the amount > > of resistance difficult. At the left and right side, it's real easy > > but toward the middle it gets hards and releases to very easy without > > warning. This causes you to oversteer. Again, I had no problem in > > N2003. Has anyone had those problems with a similar system and if so, > > how did you correct it? > > > > > > > > I have only run the demo, but you probably will have to create a > profile in the logitech software for your wheel and the thunder .exe. 2 > profiles if you have a nocd.exe. IT sounds like your wheel has a setting > that is maxxed out in the center range and lessened for the far extents > (extants?) > > First in the game set all your steering and pedal axis to 50% > For the Force Feedback setting choose NEGATIVE numbers from the > slider. > (this is for LOGITECH owners only) So instead of 100% choose, -100%. > Try reducing the FF settings until the notchiness goes away..again.. > somewhere around -80 or -90% or even closer to zero, your preference. > > For a slight mechanical understeer move the steering slider just below > the 50% setting, your testing will reveal a comfort zone. > If you want some oversteer built into your kit, then move the steering > slider to above 50%. Don't make big changes. Move it in small > increments and drive it till it feels natural to you. > > > In the logitch profiler, again, set the steering and brake sliders to > approximentally 50%. The farther from the center, the more the Linearity > setting changes. So if you used 100% Linearity in Papyrus sims, you need > to place your wheel axis and pedals at 50%. To much in one direction and > the wheel becomes oversensitive near the middle, meaning any tiny twitch > moves the wheel almost to full crank. Move the opposite direction and > the steering near the middle gets lazy, while the closer to full lock you > get, the more nervous the reaction. And point at least one version of > the profiler to the shortcut icon.(or, if that doesn't work, make sure it > uses the same target at the shortcut) It should be able to properly > start up then. > Good luck.. > > I can't verify this, but it comes from several years of ISI modd > experience. > > dh >

"bill jones" <[email hidden]> wrote in news:5KUBd.12484$3m6.8632@attbi_s51: > Thanks Dave, I can always count on you for good advice. I already > started some of your suggestions and it's getting better. Any ideas on > the 256mg problem? Since I can't launch the game from the profiler, I > can't set any of the menu buttons in profiler(lap info, etc). I've never seen that, it may have something to do with your swap file. Make it bigger. :) however, you should be able to create a profile and it should work even without launching from within the profiler. I routinely starte nr2k3nocd with a shortcut and my custom buttons/shifter setup is always there. I do let the logitech stuff load at bootup but that is about the only thing. dh

thanks a bunch. I'll give it a try. I just noticed your e-mail address and that's they way I feel at times with people who don't try and help but try and make you sound stupid. "Dave Henrie" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]...

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> "bill jones" <[email hidden]> wrote in > news:5KUBd.12484$3m6.8632@attbi_s51: > > > Thanks Dave, I can always count on you for good advice. I already > > started some of your suggestions and it's getting better. Any ideas on > > the 256mg problem? Since I can't launch the game from the profiler, I > > can't set any of the menu buttons in profiler(lap info, etc). > > I've never seen that, it may have something to do with your swap file. > Make it bigger. :) however, you should be able to create a profile and > it should work even without launching from within the profiler. I > routinely starte nr2k3nocd with a shortcut and my custom buttons/shifter > setup is always there. I do let the logitech stuff load at bootup but

that > is about the only thing. > > dh

"bill jones" <[email hidden]> wrote in news:eGXBd.13548$3m6.9171@attbi_s51: > thanks a bunch. I'll give it a try. I just noticed your e-mail address > and that's they way I feel at times with people who don't try and help > but try and make you sound stupid. Thats the spam stopper...remove the biteme to get through.. :) kinda like me...lean, mean...heheheheee well... dh

On Sun, 02 Jan 2005 14:47:43 -0600, Dave Henrie wrote: > Thats the spam stopper...remove the biteme to get through.. :) > kinda like me...lean, mean...heheheheee well... hi Dave, you should try to add the spam stopper to the domain name instead. Otherwise, the "prospective" spammer trying to send you product information will be able to make a successful connection to your ISP's mail servers, only to be told that daveBITEME is an unknown user there. If you fake your domain name, he / she won't even be able to make the smtp connection and thus use a tiny bit less of your ISP's cpu time and resources. Not a biggie (I don't think much of faking addresses on USENET), but I thought it might be of some interest to a tech-savy person like you! All the best, uwe -- GPG Fingerprint: 2E 13 20 22 9A 3F 63 7F 67 6F E9 B1 A8 36 A4 61