Maybe someone else has posted this.. maybe not.
However, I know what alot of you like this sort of racing (not really for
me) so I wanted to post it again anyways just in case.
This is off a Advertisement in the latest Computer Gaming World
magazine
* Tweak every aspect of your car for racing pefrection: suspension, tire
pressure, gear ratio and more.
* Dominate in official Indy Racing venus, plus 9 additional tracks for
Sprinter/F2000 cars
* Keep in constant communication with your own crew chief for optimal racing
performance
The speed, skill and trdition of the world's most time-honored auto racing
series are yours to experience with Indy Racing 2000.
Race as 20 of Indy Racing's biggest superstars in an authentic Indy Racing
season.
Not only a sim fan's dream. Turn down the physics for amazing arcade racing
action.
Go head to head in Multi-Player Mode with up to 16 players in both Indy and
Sprinter/F2000 cars.
The website is www.indyracing2000.com although there is nothing really there
yet.
If they mean the IRL (Imitation Racing Losers) they can keep it!
Edward
"Cliff Roman" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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racing
racing
> action.
>
> Go head to head in Multi-Player Mode with up to 16 players in both Indyand
> Sprinter/F2000 cars.
>
> The website is www.indyracing2000.com although there is nothing reallythere
> yet.
>
>
>
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> Maybe someone else has posted this.. maybe not. > > However, I know what alot of you like this sort of racing (not really for > me) so I wanted to post it again anyways just in case. > > This is off a Advertisement in the latest Computer Gaming World > magazine > > * Tweak every aspect of your car for racing pefrection: suspension, tire > pressure, gear ratio and more. > > * Dominate in official Indy Racing venus, plus 9 additional tracks for > Sprinter/F2000 cars > > * Keep in constant communication with your own crew chief for optimalQuoted text (9 lines)
> performance > > The speed, skill and trdition of the world's most time-honored auto racing > series are yours to experience with Indy Racing 2000. > > Race as 20 of Indy Racing's biggest superstars in an authentic Indy Racing > season. > > Not only a sim fan's dream. Turn down the physics for amazing arcadeI'm actually a HUGE CART fan, and dislike Tony George with a passion for
what he's done to the sport. And to top it off, I'm a BIG Lil' Al fan.
That being said, I think the record needs to be set straight. Lil' Al did
NOT when in his first IRL race, it was actually his third. And to be
perfectly honost with you, HE didn't win that race. He was just plain
lucky.
Brett
"E. Crawford" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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> Jeez Guys, I didn't mean to hurt your feelings, but that is how I see it.
> IRL is 2nd rate drivers in 2nd rate cars. The IRL/CART thing is sad andold
> but simply ignoring it in the hopes it will go away doesn't work nor does
> saying others can't voice their opinions because they are contrary toyours.
> Little Al, who couldn't have won another CART race even if nobody else
> showed up, wins in his first IRL race!!! Whats that tell you?
> CART has it's own problems but is still by far a superior form of racingto
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> the IRL, and always will be. IMHO > > Edward > > <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:8etc9n$hh9$[email hidden]... > > Bravo! Well-said! The whole IRL vs. CART thing is sad and tired. Both > > leagues have some of the best drivers in the world, and even though I > > am more of an IRL fan, you'd be hard-pressed to find my saying anything > > deurogatory about CART. > > > > That said, the new Midway CART game LOOKS great, but I fear it may turn > > out to be arcade drivel, given the source. And, alas, I fear the same > > for the IRL title, too -- it saddens me to think that Papy has entirely > > turned its back on BOTH the IRL and CART, given that they got their > > start in sims with the Indy 500 and IndyCar (CART). > > > > -- John Bodin > > Publisher, The IRL Insider Magazine > > http://irlinsider.adnetweb.com/ > > > > > > In article <[email hidden]>, > > [email hidden] (Schlomo4) wrote: > > > Ok I dont mean to pick any sort of fight here but I've become sick of > > the whole > > > "lets rag on the IRL thing". Face it...its not CART and it never > > will be. Now > > > I'm not taking sides in this...I enjoy both CART and the IRL for what > > they are. > > > Now I'm probably the minority on this issue but I actually prefer > > the IRL > > > because its what i grew up with. I suppose maybe I'm just sick of > > the IRL/CART > > > debate because its just become old. > > > > > > BTW- Im looking forward to the release of Indy Racing 2000 and only > > wish CART > > > 2k would follow :) > > > > > > Chris > > > "Concerning the difference between man and the jackass: some > > observers hold > > > that there isn't any. But this wrongs the jackass."--Mark Twain > > > > > > > > > Sent via Deja.com http://www.deja.com/ > > Before you buy. > > >Ok I dont mean to pick any sort of fight here but I've become sick of the whole
"lets rag on the IRL thing". Face it...its not CART and it never will be. Now
I'm not taking sides in this...I enjoy both CART and the IRL for what they are.
Now I'm probably the minority on this issue but I actually prefer the IRL
because its what i grew up with. I suppose maybe I'm just sick of the IRL/CART
debate because its just become old.
BTW- Im looking forward to the release of Indy Racing 2000 and only wish CART
2k would follow :)
Chris
"Concerning the difference between man and the jackass: some observers hold
that there isn't any. But this wrongs the jackass."--Mark Twain
Bravo! Well-said! The whole IRL vs. CART thing is sad and tired. Both
leagues have some of the best drivers in the world, and even though I
am more of an IRL fan, you'd be hard-pressed to find my saying anything
deurogatory about CART.
That said, the new Midway CART game LOOKS great, but I fear it may turn
out to be arcade drivel, given the source. And, alas, I fear the same
for the IRL title, too -- it saddens me to think that Papy has entirely
turned its back on BOTH the IRL and CART, given that they got their
start in sims with the Indy 500 and IndyCar (CART).
-- John Bodin
Publisher, The IRL Insider Magazine
http://irlinsider.adnetweb.com/
In article <[email hidden]>,
[email hidden] (Schlomo4) wrote:
> Ok I dont mean to pick any sort of fight here but I've become sick ofthe whole
> "lets rag on the IRL thing". Face it...its not CART and it neverwill be. Now
> I'm not taking sides in this...I enjoy both CART and the IRL for whatthey are.
> Now I'm probably the minority on this issue but I actually preferthe IRL
> because its what i grew up with. I suppose maybe I'm just sick ofthe IRL/CART
> debate because its just become old.
>
> BTW- Im looking forward to the release of Indy Racing 2000 and onlywish CART
> 2k would follow :)
>
> Chris
> "Concerning the difference between man and the jackass: someobservers hold
> that there isn't any. But this wrongs the jackass."--Mark Twain
>
Sent via Deja.com http://www.deja.com/
Before you buy.
Jeez Guys, I didn't mean to hurt your feelings, but that is how I see it.
IRL is 2nd rate drivers in 2nd rate cars. The IRL/CART thing is sad and old
but simply ignoring it in the hopes it will go away doesn't work nor does
saying others can't voice their opinions because they are contrary to yours.
Little Al, who couldn't have won another CART race even if nobody else
showed up, wins in his first IRL race!!! Whats that tell you?
CART has it's own problems but is still by far a superior form of racing to
the IRL, and always will be. IMHO
Edward
<[email hidden]> wrote in message news:8etc9n$hh9$[email hidden]...
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> Bravo! Well-said! The whole IRL vs. CART thing is sad and tired. Both > leagues have some of the best drivers in the world, and even though I > am more of an IRL fan, you'd be hard-pressed to find my saying anything > deurogatory about CART. > > That said, the new Midway CART game LOOKS great, but I fear it may turn > out to be arcade drivel, given the source. And, alas, I fear the same > for the IRL title, too -- it saddens me to think that Papy has entirely > turned its back on BOTH the IRL and CART, given that they got their > start in sims with the Indy 500 and IndyCar (CART). > > -- John Bodin > Publisher, The IRL Insider Magazine > http://irlinsider.adnetweb.com/ > > > In article <[email hidden]>, > [email hidden] (Schlomo4) wrote: > > Ok I dont mean to pick any sort of fight here but I've become sick of > the whole > > "lets rag on the IRL thing". Face it...its not CART and it never > will be. Now > > I'm not taking sides in this...I enjoy both CART and the IRL for what > they are. > > Now I'm probably the minority on this issue but I actually prefer > the IRL > > because its what i grew up with. I suppose maybe I'm just sick of > the IRL/CART > > debate because its just become old. > > > > BTW- Im looking forward to the release of Indy Racing 2000 and only > wish CART > > 2k would follow :) > > > > Chris > > "Concerning the difference between man and the jackass: some > observers hold > > that there isn't any. But this wrongs the jackass."--Mark Twain > > > > > Sent via Deja.com http://www.deja.com/ > Before you buy.
Brett Higgins wrote:
ditto on CART, ditto on the Anti-Christ whose name I shall not mention,
ditto on being a fan of Jr..and di ...HEY WAIT A MINUTE! The oldest
racing
saying in the worldis: I'd rather be lucky than good.
We've seen a pattern from Jr. at each of the 3 races he's competed in
for the Northern Lights series(IRL's new sponsor) Slow for the opening
3rd
of the race, then increasing pace to match or exceed the leaders. After
all he
did unlap himself on the track not by the leader breaking...
OK he got the lead because the leader broke..hehe see above.
dave henrie
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> > I'm actually a HUGE CART fan, and dislike Txxx Gxxxxx with a passion for > what he's done to the sport. And to top it off, I'm a BIG Lil' Al fan. > > That being said, I think the record needs to be set straight. Lil' Al did > NOT when in his first IRL race, it was actually his third. And to be > perfectly honost with you, HE didn't win that race. He was just plain > lucky. > > Brett >"E. Crawford" wrote:
> Little Al, who couldn't have won another CART race even if nobody else
> showed up, wins in his first IRL race!!! Whats that tell you?
Not totally accurate, but still makes my point for the last couple of
years now. IRL = washed up has-beens & wannabe's. However, I suppose
watching a good IRL race still would beat no racing at all. ;-)
--
Chuck Kandler #70
K&S Racing
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Competitor in the TopGear MGPRS2 league at:
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They'll call you names
And spit in your face,
But legends never die. --Gene Simmons
Open-wheel racing in the United States has suffered greatly because of the
split(it really was not in great shape to begin with). However, unless you
are under 10 years old, you did not "grow up" with the IRL. My father first
took me to the Speedway in 1969, and I attended my first 500 when I was 6
years old. I saw Mears first and last wins at the 500, Snevas terrible
crash, Al Unser Sr.'s 4th win, the controversial Bobby-Mario-Bobby 500,
Rutherford, Foyt, Johncock, Rahal, Sullivan, Fittipaldi, Little Al, etc.
The IRL is NOT the racing I grew up with. The Indy 500(USAC/CART) used to
attract the best drivers in motorsports. Nascar and F1 stars would come to
race the 500 every year. Just to name a few: Jimmy Clark, Graham Hill, Mario
Andretti, Emmerson Fittipaldi, and Nigel Mansell were all F1 world champions
who won the 500 and/or the CART championship(many doing so in the prime of
their careers). Now I realize that modern day contracts, sponsorships, and
tighter race schedules would not permit this, but there is no doubt that the
IRL/500 has now become little more than a starting or ending point for
drivers. Stars like Tony Stewart and Kenny Brack immediately move on to
greener pastures once their stock has gone up, while Arie, Goodyear,
Cheever, Lazier, and now Little Al ride out the end of their careers.
I have not attended the 500 since the split, however, I did attend the
Atlanta race and I can tell you that more people show up at the "Dixie
Speedway" every Saturday night for the local dirt track boys, than attended
that IRL race. However, CART is not much better. The crowd at Homestead this
year was terrible. There are now only 3 U.S. drivers in the series(Andretti,
Vasser, Herta), and the TV ratings are dropping.
The IRL/CART need to do something quick to fix this, but I do not see it
happening with the "egos" involved on both sides.
CART, with all its problems, is still much closer to the racing I grew up
with. It is the only major "international" motorsports series that
challenges its competitors on Road Courses, Street Circuits, Bull-rings, and
Super Speedways. The racing is almost always close, even on the road
courses, and there are enough races on the schedule to keep the championship
race interesting. The IRL season has too few races, spread over way too many
months to keep anyone's interest. Also, CART has much more history than the
IRL. Michigan , Milwaukee, and Nazareth have been raced since the 60's,
while Long Beach, Mid-Ohio, Elkhart Lake, Cleveland, Laguna Seca, Portland,
and Toronto have been run for 15 years or more. Besides Indy, the IRL has
Phoenix(not for long), and Atlanta(not the same configuration or track that
they used to run).
Anyway, enough rambling.......
Don Chapman
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Schlomo4 <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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> Ok I dont mean to pick any sort of fight here but I've become sick of thewhole
> "lets rag on the IRL thing". Face it...its not CART and it never will be.Now
> I'm not taking sides in this...I enjoy both CART and the IRL for what theyare.
> Now I'm probably the minority on this issue but I actually prefer the IRL
> because its what i grew up with. I suppose maybe I'm just sick of theIRL/CART
> debate because its just become old.
>
> BTW- Im looking forward to the release of Indy Racing 2000 and only wishCART
> 2k would follow :)
>
> Chris
> "Concerning the difference between man and the jackass: some observershold
> that there isn't any. But this wrongs the jackass."--Mark Twain
This might put our American feelings in perspective for folks in other
parts of the world.
How would you all feel if Geoff Crammond announced that GP3 was
actually gonna cover the F3000 serieis. Yes this might be the most
sophisticated sim yet produced, but what interest does F3 bring vs. F1?
The same kind of letdown applies to a CART/IRL product. I am a fan of
open wheel racing, but if I heard a CART sim was comming, I'd be saving
my pennies, the IRL just doesn't generate any enthusiasm, even with
Cheever and Unser Jr.
dave henrie
Don Chapman wrote:
>
> Open-wheel racing in the United States has suffered greatly because of the
> split(it really was not in great shape to begin with). However, unless you
> are under 10 years old, you did not "grow up" with the IRL. My father first
Don,
I couldn't agree with more. My feelings are exactly the way you feel. This
year's cart race attendance in Homestead was depressing. and the lack of
American drivers diminishes my interest as well. I have been disgusted with
the break up of cart from Indy and the introduction of the IRL. I think the
IRL is joke and should have never been started in the first place. The Indy
500 means nothing to me anymore.
I CONDEM TONY GEORGE TO HELL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
MY HE BURN THERE ETERNALLY!!!!!! For destroying what was once the "Greatest
Spectical in Racing".
Has anyone heard anything about Indy racing 2000?
