Topic: Thrustmaster Nascar Pro Digital
Cheer8
Member posted 05-03-2000 06:50 PM
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If anyone have this wheel working fine, please help some of us on this message
board that are having lots of trouble getting this wheel to work.. I know that
I have installed/uninstalled everything having to do with this wheel atleast 25
times.. I don't know what else to do.. The best that I have done is getting the
wheel and all the components to work in the program that came on the cd w/ the
wheel.. I have it calibrated outside of the game, now I JUST can't get the
wheel to work inside of the game. If anyone has any futher suggestions or the
answer to this problem, please I'm begging you to please post a reply!
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NYR2119935
Member posted 05-03-2000 07:14 PM
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yea please help us.
I tried following the instructions that others gave us, but I still can't get
it to work
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Edgar IV
Member posted 05-03-2000 07:35 PM
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well, i had problems with it at first, but after reinstalling it it worked
fine. I have to calibrate it outside of the game everytime i reboot my
computer, then do it in the game, but other than that it's fine. what is the
exact problem, what does it do, i would love to help.
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NYR2119935
Member posted 05-03-2000 07:39 PM
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I have to do the same thing you do. calibrate it everytime windows starts. But
that shouldn't be. I also my wheel pulls to the left. and the sometimes to the
right.
Hard to keep it straight.
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Elvis2
Member posted 05-03-2000 07:50 PM
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I bought the Pro Digital to use as an interim wheel since my old TM Nascar pro
wore out and I was saving for the TSW2 which I'm using now. I had a heck of a
time setting it up. I finally installed it WITHOUT the drivers and let Win98
recognise it as an hid device. I calibrated it in Windows as a 3 axis, 8 button
joystick. Calibrated it in N3 and NLegends, using joystick 1 and 2. Steering
and brake on one axis, gas on the other. GPL, upon noticing the change in
wheels , went right to the controller options screen without being prompted.
That was a blast with 3 axis and was able to "brake drag". Sure improved lap
times. I only had to set it up once for everything. Couldn't use all that extra
stuff that came with the wheel (software) because I didn't install the drivers.
It did the job though however it dosen't compare to the TSW2.
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NYR2119935
Member posted 05-03-2000 08:15 PM
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ok
I uninstalled the thrustmaster crap drivers, and I let windows recognize the
wheel as a Guellemot wheel. I am still having trouble with the wheel behaving
erradically. I can't keep it in a straight line in GPL!!
HELP!!
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Elvis2
Member posted 05-03-2000 08:26 PM
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How is it in N3?
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NYR2119935
Member posted 05-03-2000 08:29 PM
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It works even better in N3 and NL, but it is crap in GPL!!!!
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Elvis2
Member posted 05-03-2000 08:39 PM
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Try recalibrating it in GPL then try running GPL in novice. See what happens.
Also, is GPL using 3 axis?
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NYR2119935
Member posted 05-03-2000 09:44 PM
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And now it doesn't work in Viper Racing, Dirt Track Racing, etc...
I think the gas and brakes are reversed?
help
please?
and GPL no work..............
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jolt
Member posted 05-03-2000 11:31 PM
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I know a little about this wheel as I had one back in January. All the problems
with this wheel are based on the drivers (software for Windows). I never did
get a reply back from Thrustmaster about my problems, so I fixed it by sending
the wheel back.
Now for some help: This is from the Guillemot forum. Guillemot bought out
Thrustmaster awhile back.
Date: 03-03-2000 16:19:51
Author: Guillemot Forum Admin
Title: *** Nascar PRO Digital USB Dead Spot Resolved ***
You can now download the version 3.04 from www.thrustmaster.com
(http://www.guillemot.com/download/acc/tmd/dtp-9x-304.exe)
So, here is the address for the newest drivers. Read the instructions as to how
to install the drivers but first do the following if you had drivers installed
for this wheel before on your system.
Make sure to remove the drivers from your hard drive. They were in a folder on
my root directory but I forgot the name of it. There was a file in that folder
to run that was to remove the wheels drivers from the system but it did a very
bad job at that too. So after you delete that folder with the drivers files in
it, the next step is to edit the registry to get rid of any traces of Digital
Pro or Thrustmaster from the registry. Besure to back up your registry before
you start messing with it. If you make a mistake in the registry, your system
could be do for the count.
Now that all traces of the old drivers are removed fron your system, start over
by installing the new drivers as instructed in the text file that came with the
new drivers.
My 2cents on this wheel is take the price you paid for it and multiply that
times 4. That is how much your headache with this wheel has cost you in your
lost time and stress.
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7E_Racing
Member posted 05-04-2000 02:09 AM
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This wheel, once configured is actually better than my Thrustmaster NASCAR Pro.
I have 7 different profiles currently so I can race in each game and have the
wheel configured for that games utilities/button assignments, ie:using the
paddles to shift in F1/GPL or declaring different buttons in each game for pit
strategies. It takes patience to set the wheel up. Grab a coffee and here you
go....
Ok gentlemen, here is what you need to do:
1. Download the latest drivers off of the Thrustmaster website - 3.04
2. Remove your current wheel from the control panel/device manager screen - Run
the cleantp program from the file you downloaded
3. Run/Install the drivers you have downloaded
4. You will be promted to reboot a few times while it recognizes everything. If
it fails to recognize, you may have to manually select from a list of hardware,
select Human Interface Device, select have disk, point in the direction of the
directory you saved the drivers to and click on the file prousb.ini
5. Once you have completed all of this, run the thrustmaster keyboard emulation
program. This will bring you to the control panel. Make sure your device is on
Controller ID number 1 by going to the advanced tab. If using win 98 you can
change it from here, under win 95 it is too complicated for me to explain here.
6. Calibrate the wheel - making sure you calibrate the axis first with the ++
domahicke.When you click the check button, it will bring you back to the
properties box, just go back in and finish the calibration
7. Go and calibrate in the game and play
8. If you use multiple driving games, it is best to setup a profile for each
one. This allows you to program and calibrate the wheel differently for each
game. You need to experiment with this.
9. If using multiple profiles you will need to run the keyboard emulation
program again selecting keyboard emulation this time and selecting the game
manually from the screen under the profile you created, press the start button
untill it says stop, twice for me, and then go play the game.
10. If your wheel is still pulling to one side, on the axis configuration page,
remove a little deadspot by pulling the right lower button down a hair
11. Go slow, then run fast on the track
[This message has been edited by 7E_Racing (edited 05-05-2000).]
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Mark Gums
Member posted 05-04-2000 05:35 AM
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You guys moved the thread on me.. ;-)
NYR, I forget, as I havn't run gpl in a long time(probably should just to
remind me what n4 is going to be), can you pick the input device as in N3?
Also, what wattage is your power supply and what other hardware do you have in
the machine? USB is very sensitive to this. And I never got an answer: When you
click in the driver package, does it unpack to a folder then reboot the system
by itself? -Mark
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NYR2119935
Member posted 05-04-2000 01:45 PM
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I'll respond soon. Gotta go out right now.
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7E_Racing
Member posted 05-04-2000 02:19 PM
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If you are not able to drive in a straight line, it is because you are not
using the most current drivers from Thrustmaster. Version 3.04 corrects the
deadzone area which was causing this. You might still need to add a little
correction yourself through the axis configuration page.
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NYR2119935
Member posted 05-04-2000 03:16 PM
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"NYR, I forget, as I havn't run gpl in a long time(probably should just to
remind me what n4 is going to be), can you pick the input device as in N3?
Also, what wattage is your power supply and what other hardware do you have in
the machine? USB is very sensitive to this. And I never got an answer: When you
click in the driver package, does it unpack to a folder then reboot the system
by itself? -Mark "
GPL has the same type of setup menus as N3 and NL. I am not sure of my wattage
or power supply.
Here is my system:
p3 - 450
128 mb ram
voodoo 3 2000 agp
SB Live Value
56k modem
Ethernet card
48x CD ROM
SONY 4 x 2 x 24 CDRW
USB HP Printer
Thrustmast NASCAB PRO DIGITAL wheel USB
that's my system
I clicked on the 3.04 drivers, it unpacked to a temp folder, and then it asked
me if I wanted to reboot now. and I has said yes.
what do I do????
Right now I am using the the standard win98 Guillemot drivers.
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NYR2119935
Member posted 05-04-2000 04:32 PM
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Mark Gums
Member posted 05-04-2000 05:40 PM
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Ok, well, you let it go thru the reboot, it then redetects, and installs the
drivers from a folder you specify, right? Ok, then you are doing nothing wrong
to install the new driver. It may be you need to totally remove anything
refrencing thrustmaster or Guillemot from the Registry(its easier than you
think) then install the new driver.
How do I edit the regisrty? he asks.. Ok,
well, the easiest way is this:
click Start/run and in the box put regedit.
when it comes up, do a find for thrustmaster.
Repeat it for Guillemot. (make sure you got the spelling right)
anytime it comes up, highlight it, pick 'export' from the top bar, save it to
the desktop, and then delete it from the registry. That way if you do screw
something, all you have to do is click it and it'll get put back automatically.
However, your post gives a great pause; HP. I had major problems getting
anything to work with my HP USB scanner driver. You might want to see if they
have a corporate version of your printer driver. The home user ones are major
system hogs and will screw anything else on the usb.
Later. -Mark
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NYR2119935
Member posted 05-04-2000 06:29 PM
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I only see home drivers for the HP 812 USB printer
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NYR2119935
Member posted 05-04-2000 09:55 PM
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ok
here we go again.
I unistalled all Thrustmaster drivers, and I cleard the name from the registry.
I opened the 3.04.exe and unpacked the files to a temp folder. It told me the
cpu must reboot. I pressed ok. The cpu rebooted. windows started. New hardware
was found. It asked me where the drivers were. I pointed it to that temp
folder. It began to install the drivers. and then it asked for my WIN 98 SE cd,
so I put that in and the installation continued. Finally it said installation
was done. It said it must reboot the cpu and I said ok. cpu reboots. Windoze
reloads. I immediately disable the keyboard emulation and banish it from ever
showing up again. I then went to the control panel to calibrate the wheel. I
begin to calibrate the wheel. Once again the center is off. It goes all the way
to the left, but it does not go all the way to the right. argh. Pedals are now
calibrated for 2 axis. ok. I know goe to GPL and calibrate in the game. ok
fine. done. I take my Eagle to Monza and I leave the pits. I am now racing. Car
is moving very fast. Problem. The onscreen wheel is all over the place. The car
is pulling to the left and right. I can not keep the damn thing in a straight
line. I shout many curses. I then leave GPL, and I go to N3. I calibrate the
wheel in N3. Fine. I take my car out to Daytona. Not terrible. The wheel still
pulls to the right though. Same thing happened when I went to NL. I know go to
Viper Racing. The game recognizes the wheel and calibrates automatically. I go
to track and race. I can't keep the car in a straight line again!! The can go
turn all the way to the left. But not to the right.
I can't continue. I feel sick.
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Cheer8
Member posted 05-05-2000 07:43 AM
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I thought I was buying a decent wheel but I guess I wasn't! So now should I
send it back? Is anyone having NO trouble w/ the Thrustmaster Nascar Pro
Digital, and really likes the wheel??
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Hank Kimball
Member posted 05-05-2000 09:09 AM
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I have no tolerance for CRAP and Thrustmaster pro is CRAP. If it can't be
loaded and made to run in about five minutes, Its.....see ya later.
Why try to fix THEIR problems? Take the piece of junk back and buy something
else like I did. Its NOT YOUR FAULT. ITS THEIRS!
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NYR2119935
Member posted 05-05-2000 01:11 PM
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"Dear Customer,
I agree that the keyboard emulation is actually quite a resource
hungry feature. We are currently working on optimizing this. As for the
wheel not centring and drifting - you must make sure you fully calibrated it
in the Pro Digital properties by using the +,+ sign above the gas and brake
axes. If this does not resolve the problem, here is an explanation of what
could be the problem. USB game devices are very picky and needs a well power
regulated and are not compatible with some USB HUB. If you are connecting
the device on the front of your computer or in an external HUB, chances are
it just doesn't get the power it needs. Try connecting it directly to the
USB root (back of the computer). In the case that you only have one USB hub
and that is at the back of your computer, this might mean that your USB port
will never deliver enough power to the USB wheel; you will want to consider
using the Game Port connector. Thank you."
This is the answer I got from Thrustmaster. I emailed them my rant from above.
argh
that sure as hell didn't help me. But at least they admit that their drivers
suck.
shoot me. please.
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7E_Racing
Member posted 05-05-2000 01:47 PM
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Not sure why you are all having problems. I love this wheel and it works great.
And at only 29.99 what a bargain. You seem to be missing some key steps
somewhere for it is real easy to install. Maybe not 5 minutes, but I have never
installed any hardware on my system in 5 minutes.
It should take you less than 15 minutes though. Check earlier posts for
detailed step-by-step instructions. Hopefully I listed all of the steps.
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Mark Gums
Member posted 05-05-2000 05:22 PM
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I have had no problems with the later version of driver; I don't know why some
of you guys are having such trouble; The original cd drivers DO suck big time,
but I deleted them a long time ago and loaded the newer ones and really havn't
had a problem since. I however, have since wiped th amchine once and never even
installed the cd drivers then and went right with the updated ones, and have it
plugged into one of the two usb ports on the MB, and a 300W power supply. Any
of these could be making it better for me than you; I am almost out of
suggestions; do you know somebody else that has usb you could try it on? It is
worth the effort; it is unbelievably accurate once it's installed right.
Later. -Mark
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gmgardner
Member posted 05-05-2000 07:42 PM
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Maaaan You guy,s would have to start talkin about my wheel,I think you jinxed
it. lol
I started my puter,and had my N3 disc ready to go in,accidently bumped to tray
and it went to work before my puter was up and runnin. It started loading some
driver,NOW my wheel is not working in the game. It works in Thrustmaster
setup,but nothing in the game. It was working great with the 304 patch, HELP
now what??? I checked and my ser# does not end with 666
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NYR2119935
Member posted 05-05-2000 08:12 PM
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AAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHHHHH
@#$$#$%#$%#$^
Nothing works!!!!!!
Absolutely nothing works!!!!
Where is my sledge hammer???!!!
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NYR2119935
Member posted 05-06-2000 10:49 AM
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Hey guys, it it possible that my wheel just has a defect, cause I swear to you
all that I have followe your instructions 100% completely!
is it possible??
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Cheer8
Member posted 05-06-2000 01:01 PM
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Do you have windows 95?
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NYR2119935
Member posted 05-06-2000 01:10 PM
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win 98 SE
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