Re: Arrrhh...Darn Computer keeps freezing....

Dave St.Onge <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:424R4.1369$[email hidden]... > SB Emulation 5 IRQ Just a FYI, that "SB emulation" is only relevant if you play dos-based games. The SBLive! default installation loads something at startup (can't recall what anymore, sorry, check msconfig) that slows everything down and hogs that IRQ. You can remove all of that if you aren't planning to play anything which requires a restart in MS-DOS mode. It never hurts to have a little more in the way of resources. ~daxe

When does it freeze up exactly? During all games, or just some? You are using Windows '95/98/2000 or NT? It's impossible to help without more info. Mike

I honestly think the card overheats. I've had the same problem for quite a while, but noticed it to be a bit more stable in a slightly cooler room. My other theory is that Microsoft put these bugs in on purpose and trigger them whenever they release a new operating system so that you have to buy the new one. I noticed it on 95 so I bought 98, now it's started again. Hmmmmmmmmm Chris Note: My system is a 300Mhz 64MB SoundBlaster Live! Value (the step down from the full version or one up from the Live! X-Gamer or 1024) and 3dblaster Banshee -- -------------------------------------------------- http://www.the.saints.btinternet.co.uk Dave St.Onge wrote in message ... |Recently, I purchased the Soundblaster Live! X-Gamer soundcard, and now my |computer keeps crashing. I even took the computer in and got the card |installed for me, and they deleted all info from my onboard soundcard |(Crystal), and after about an hour, the thing just freezes up. It only does |it when I'm playing games, not if I'm doing anything else. I have Liveware |3.0 and the most recent drivers for the soundcard, and I even downloaded the |most recent drivers for my Voodoo 3 2000 videocard. Everything I check |under Device Manager shows everything is working properly, and is showing no |conflicts. I haven't had any freezing problems before installing the |soundcard, and I am really at a loss....any help would be greatly |appreciated.... | |Sys specs... |400 mhz |96 mb ram |Voodoo 3 2000 |Soundblaster Live! X-Gamer | |

Recently, I purchased the Soundblaster Live! X-Gamer soundcard, and now my computer keeps crashing. I even took the computer in and got the card installed for me, and they deleted all info from my onboard soundcard (Crystal), and after about an hour, the thing just freezes up. It only does it when I'm playing games, not if I'm doing anything else. I have Liveware 3.0 and the most recent drivers for the soundcard, and I even downloaded the most recent drivers for my Voodoo 3 2000 videocard. Everything I check under Device Manager shows everything is working properly, and is showing no conflicts. I haven't had any freezing problems before installing the soundcard, and I am really at a loss....any help would be greatly appreciated.... Sys specs... 400 mhz 96 mb ram Voodoo 3 2000 Soundblaster Live! X-Gamer

Make sure you turn of the AudioHQ thing which is part of the SB Live software... look for a small icon left of the time on the explorer bar and turn off AudioHQ... -- Sjon Dave St.Onge <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:LZWQ4.818$[email hidden]... > Recently, I purchased the Soundblaster Live! X-Gamer soundcard, and now my > computer keeps crashing. I even took the computer in and got the card > installed for me, and they deleted all info from my onboard soundcard > (Crystal), and after about an hour, the thing just freezes up. It onlydoes > it when I'm playing games, not if I'm doing anything else. I haveLiveware > 3.0 and the most recent drivers for the soundcard, and I even downloadedthe > most recent drivers for my Voodoo 3 2000 videocard. Everything I check > under Device Manager shows everything is working properly, and is showingno

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> conflicts. I haven't had any freezing problems before installing the > soundcard, and I am really at a loss....any help would be greatly > appreciated.... > > Sys specs... > 400 mhz > 96 mb ram > Voodoo 3 2000 > Soundblaster Live! X-Gamer > >

Actually, I disabled that from the start menu, because it was taking too long to load...thanks for the tip though... Dave "Sjon Stigter" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:8f1kbf$gjp$[email hidden]...

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> Make sure you turn of the AudioHQ thing which is part of the SB Live > software... look for a small icon left of the time on the explorer bar and > turn off AudioHQ... > > > -- Sjon > > > Dave St.Onge <[email hidden]> wrote in message > news:LZWQ4.818$[email hidden]... > > Recently, I purchased the Soundblaster Live! X-Gamer soundcard, and now

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> > computer keeps crashing. I even took the computer in and got the card > > installed for me, and they deleted all info from my onboard soundcard > > (Crystal), and after about an hour, the thing just freezes up. It only > does > > it when I'm playing games, not if I'm doing anything else. I have > Liveware > > 3.0 and the most recent drivers for the soundcard, and I even downloaded > the > > most recent drivers for my Voodoo 3 2000 videocard. Everything I check > > under Device Manager shows everything is working properly, and is

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> no > > conflicts. I haven't had any freezing problems before installing the > > soundcard, and I am really at a loss....any help would be greatly > > appreciated.... > > > > Sys specs... > > 400 mhz > > 96 mb ram > > Voodoo 3 2000 > > Soundblaster Live! X-Gamer > > > > > >

Are you running it in Win2000? The drivers aren't stable yet. "Dave St.Onge" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:LZWQ4.818$[email hidden]... > Recently, I purchased the Soundblaster Live! X-Gamer soundcard, and now my > computer keeps crashing. I even took the computer in and got the card > installed for me, and they deleted all info from my onboard soundcard > (Crystal), and after about an hour, the thing just freezes up. It onlydoes > it when I'm playing games, not if I'm doing anything else. I haveLiveware > 3.0 and the most recent drivers for the soundcard, and I even downloadedthe > most recent drivers for my Voodoo 3 2000 videocard. Everything I check > under Device Manager shows everything is working properly, and is showingno

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> conflicts. I haven't had any freezing problems before installing the > soundcard, and I am really at a loss....any help would be greatly > appreciated.... > > Sys specs... > 400 mhz > 96 mb ram > Voodoo 3 2000 > Soundblaster Live! X-Gamer > >

On Sat, 6 May 2000 11:39:59 -0400, "Dave St.Onge" <[email hidden]> wrote:

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>Recently, I purchased the Soundblaster Live! X-Gamer soundcard, and now my >computer keeps crashing. I even took the computer in and got the card >installed for me, and they deleted all info from my onboard soundcard >(Crystal), and after about an hour, the thing just freezes up. It only does >it when I'm playing games, not if I'm doing anything else. I have Liveware >3.0 and the most recent drivers for the soundcard, and I even downloaded the >most recent drivers for my Voodoo 3 2000 videocard. Everything I check >under Device Manager shows everything is working properly, and is showing no >conflicts. I haven't had any freezing problems before installing the >soundcard, and I am really at a loss....any help would be greatly >appreciated....

Heheh... "Arrrhh." You sound like I did about four days ago. Only for me it was more like "ARRRRRRRRRRRRG!!" Sounds like it could be an IRQ conflict. I was having similar trouble with crashes, and I discovered that my SB Live! and my GeForce were both on IRQ 11. To check it out, go to Control Panel > System > Device Manager. Find your SB Live! - it should be under "sound, video and game controllers." Double click on it and then select the resources tab and it will tell you the Interrupt Request. Now do the same for your video card, network card, and any other devices you have installed. Make sure nothing else uses the same IRQ as the sound card, especially not your video card. Also make sure the Crystel device driver is either not installed (not listed) or disabled if they are listed. You can disable it by viewing its properties and checking the disable box. If you find that another device is using the same IRQ, I suggest moving the soundcard to another PCI slot. Kinda sucks that you paid to have it installed if you're only going to move it now, but this worked for me. It also caused havok for me, but I discovered later that the problem was I needed to install a special driver for my chipset, so that won't likely happen to you. -T

"Dave Henrie" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]... > > naw...keep the card and speakers buy a GOOD Motherboard that doesn't > have ONBOARD ANYTHING!!! > dave henrie > My motherboard (Chaintech CT-6ATA2) has built-in sound, but I discovered it to be truly awful, so I disabled it and went with my own sound card. No system is ever entirely crash-free, but my system works fine. You're right, though - part of the trick is to avoid buying no-name generic motherboards. In another newsgroup about two months ago, I read a post from a guy who had a PC Chips board and he said he was getting a number of unexplained random crashes which he and no one else could figure out. Someone suggested to him to buy a "real" motherboard (Asus and Abit were the suggested names). The guy proceeded to buy one of those two makes, formatted his drive to get rid of all the PC Chips board settings, re-installed Windows, and all of his problems cleared up just like that. His system is much more stable now. Although it does not apply in the case of this thread here, another good way to avoid crashes is not to buy cutting-edge technology. I only buy equipment that has been on the shelf for a while and has had the drivers updated a few times. This, I'm sure, has saved me a lot of headaches. ~NightSky 421~

In article <[email hidden]>, [email hidden] (Aguirre) writes: >It's just a com file to initialize the SB16 emulation. I've ran my >computer with and without SB16 emulation on the SBLive! and I don't >see any slow down. >-- >Aguirre Do you also get a device conflict between the SB16 emulation and the SBLive? It seems like the card is conflicting with ITSELF... Eldred p.s. it works fine in windows - I haven't tried a DOS game yet... -- Tiger Stadium R.I.P. 1912-1999 Own Grand Prix Legends? Goto http://gpl.gamestats.com/vroc Never argue with an idiot. He brings you down to his level, then beats you with experience... Remove SPAM-OFF to reply.

Aguirre <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]... > On Sat, 6 May 2000 23:00:24 -0400, "daxe" <[email hidden]> > thus spoke: > > > >Just a FYI, that "SB emulation" is only relevant if you play dos-based > >games. The SBLive! default installation loads something at startup(can't > >recall what anymore, sorry, check msconfig) that slows everything downand > >hogs that IRQ. You can remove all of that if you aren't planning to play > >anything which requires a restart in MS-DOS mode. It never hurts to havea

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> >little more in the way of resources. > > > >~daxe > > > > It's just a com file to initialize the SB16 emulation. I've ran my > computer with and without SB16 emulation on the SBLive! and I don't > see any slow down.

I meant that it slowed down the bootup process of the computer, not the computer operation. No matter the speed, you can better use IRQ 5 for something else if you don't need it for DOS mode SB16 emulation. ~daxe

Well, I was really frustrated earlier in the week, especially since I also bought the Cambridge DTT 2500's to go with the soundcard, so I have quite an investment, especially with how expensive things are here in Canada. That said, I am using Win 98, and I went and checked all of the IRQ's and have noted them below.... Voodoo 3 2000 11 IRQ Sb Live 10 IRQ SB Emulation 5 IRQ Network Adaptor for Ethernet Card 9 IRQ Universal Serial Bus Controller 9 IRQ For the Bus controller, the info is Intel 82371AB/ EB pci to usb Universal Host controller Offhand the only one that I can see is the USB and the network adaptor, although I'm not sure whether these two actually affect each other, especially since they were like this, I assume, since the Ethernet card was installed for me two months ago. The freezing only started since the new soundcard was installed. Another person mentioned that the soundcard could possibly be overheating. I have the video card in the top slot, then an open slot, soundcard, open slot, then network card. Is it possible to attach a fan to the soundcard, and maybe that might make a difference?? Once again, thanks for all the tips. At the very least, I am learning something, and hopefully I can eventually solve the problem... Dave "Thomas j. Evans" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]... > On Sat, 6 May 2000 11:39:59 -0400, "Dave St.Onge" > <[email hidden]> wrote: > > >Recently, I purchased the Soundblaster Live! X-Gamer soundcard, and nowmy > >computer keeps crashing. I even took the computer in and got the card > >installed for me, and they deleted all info from my onboard soundcard > >(Crystal), and after about an hour, the thing just freezes up. It onlydoes > >it when I'm playing games, not if I'm doing anything else. I haveLiveware > >3.0 and the most recent drivers for the soundcard, and I even downloadedthe > >most recent drivers for my Voodoo 3 2000 videocard. Everything I check > >under Device Manager shows everything is working properly, and is showingno

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> >conflicts. I haven't had any freezing problems before installing the > >soundcard, and I am really at a loss....any help would be greatly > >appreciated.... > > Heheh... "Arrrhh." You sound like I did about four days ago. Only > for me it was more like "ARRRRRRRRRRRRG!!" > > Sounds like it could be an IRQ conflict. I was having similar trouble > with crashes, and I discovered that my SB Live! and my GeForce were > both on IRQ 11. > > To check it out, go to Control Panel > System > Device Manager. Find > your SB Live! - it should be under "sound, video and game > controllers." Double click on it and then select the resources tab > and it will tell you the Interrupt Request. Now do the same for your > video card, network card, and any other devices you have installed. > Make sure nothing else uses the same IRQ as the sound card, especially > not your video card. Also make sure the Crystel device driver is > either not installed (not listed) or disabled if they are listed. You > can disable it by viewing its properties and checking the disable box. > > If you find that another device is using the same IRQ, I suggest > moving the soundcard to another PCI slot. Kinda sucks that you paid > to have it installed if you're only going to move it now, but this > worked for me. It also caused havok for me, but I discovered later > that the problem was I needed to install a special driver for my > chipset, so that won't likely happen to you. > > -T

When I brought the computer in to install the soundcard, they disabled the onboard soundcard, and deleted all the drivers from the onboard card...at the rate things are going, I'm very close to returning the card and the speakers, and getting my money back... Dave "Andrew" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:yN4R4.5750$[email hidden]...

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> I had much the same problem you are having, but I had an onboard > Soundblaster 16 (on the motherboard) and I purchased the SB Live! Value. I > recieved frequent crashes and I found out a solution. I had to disable the > Soundblaster 16 in the BIOS (because it was on the motherboard, my bios is > AMI-American Megatrends) as well as uninstalling the drivers. Works great > now! > > Good luck > > Andy > > > Dave St.Onge <[email hidden]> wrote in message > news:424R4.1369$[email hidden]... > > Well, I was really frustrated earlier in the week, especially since I

also > > bought the Cambridge DTT 2500's to go with the soundcard, so I havequite > an > > investment, especially with how expensive things are here in Canada.That > > said, I am using Win 98, and I went and checked all of the IRQ's andhave

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> > noted them below.... > > > > Voodoo 3 2000 11 IRQ > > Sb Live 10 IRQ > > SB Emulation 5 IRQ > > Network Adaptor for Ethernet Card 9 IRQ > > Universal Serial Bus Controller 9 IRQ > > For the Bus controller, the info is Intel 82371AB/ EB pci to usb > Universal > > Host controller > > > > Offhand the only one that I can see is the USB and the network adaptor, > > although I'm not sure whether these two actually affect each other, > > especially since they were like this, I assume, since the Ethernet card > was > > installed for me two months ago. The freezing only started since the

new > > soundcard was installed. > > > > Another person mentioned that the soundcard could possibly beoverheating. > > I have the video card in the top slot, then an open slot, soundcard,open > > slot, then network card. Is it possible to attach a fan to thesoundcard,

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> > and maybe that might make a difference?? > > > > Once again, thanks for all the tips. At the very least, I am learning > > something, and hopefully I can eventually solve the problem... > > > > Dave > > > > > > "Thomas j. Evans" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > > news:[email hidden]... > > > On Sat, 6 May 2000 11:39:59 -0400, "Dave St.Onge" > > > <[email hidden]> wrote: > > > > > > >Recently, I purchased the Soundblaster Live! X-Gamer soundcard, and

now > > my > > > >computer keeps crashing. I even took the computer in and got thecard > > > >installed for me, and they deleted all info from my onboard soundcard > > > >(Crystal), and after about an hour, the thing just freezes up. Itonly

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> > does > > > >it when I'm playing games, not if I'm doing anything else. I have > > Liveware > > > >3.0 and the most recent drivers for the soundcard, and I even > downloaded > > the > > > >most recent drivers for my Voodoo 3 2000 videocard. Everything I

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> > > >under Device Manager shows everything is working properly, and is > showing > > no > > > >conflicts. I haven't had any freezing problems before installing the > > > >soundcard, and I am really at a loss....any help would be greatly > > > >appreciated.... > > > > > > Heheh... "Arrrhh." You sound like I did about four days ago. Only > > > for me it was more like "ARRRRRRRRRRRRG!!" > > > > > > Sounds like it could be an IRQ conflict. I was having similar trouble > > > with crashes, and I discovered that my SB Live! and my GeForce were > > > both on IRQ 11. > > > > > > To check it out, go to Control Panel > System > Device Manager. Find > > > your SB Live! - it should be under "sound, video and game > > > controllers." Double click on it and then select the resources tab > > > and it will tell you the Interrupt Request. Now do the same for your > > > video card, network card, and any other devices you have installed. > > > Make sure nothing else uses the same IRQ as the sound card, especially > > > not your video card. Also make sure the Crystel device driver is > > > either not installed (not listed) or disabled if they are listed. You > > > can disable it by viewing its properties and checking the disable box. > > > > > > If you find that another device is using the same IRQ, I suggest > > > moving the soundcard to another PCI slot. Kinda sucks that you paid > > > to have it installed if you're only going to move it now, but this > > > worked for me. It also caused havok for me, but I discovered later > > > that the problem was I needed to install a special driver for my > > > chipset, so that won't likely happen to you. > > > > > > -T > > > > > >

naw...keep the card and speakers buy a GOOD Motherboard that doesn't have ONBOARD ANYTHING!!! dave henrie "Dave St.Onge" wrote:

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> > When I brought the computer in to install the soundcard, they disabled the > onboard soundcard, and deleted all the drivers from the onboard card...at > the rate things are going, I'm very close to returning the card and the > speakers, and getting my money back... > > Dave > > "Andrew" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > news:yN4R4.5750$[email hidden]... > > I had much the same problem you are having, but I had an onboard > > Soundblaster 16 (on the motherboard) and I purchased the SB Live! Value. I > > recieved frequent crashes and I found out a solution. I had to disable the > > Soundblaster 16 in the BIOS (because it was on the motherboard, my bios is > > AMI-American Megatrends) as well as uninstalling the drivers. Works great > > now! > > > > Good luck > > > > Andy > > > > > > Dave St.Onge <[email hidden]> wrote in message > > news:424R4.1369$[email hidden]... > > > Well, I was really frustrated earlier in the week, especially since I > also > > > bought the Cambridge DTT 2500's to go with the soundcard, so I have > quite > > an > > > investment, especially with how expensive things are here in Canada. > That > > > said, I am using Win 98, and I went and checked all of the IRQ's and > have > > > noted them below.... > > > > > > Voodoo 3 2000 11 IRQ > > > Sb Live 10 IRQ > > > SB Emulation 5 IRQ > > > Network Adaptor for Ethernet Card 9 IRQ > > > Universal Serial Bus Controller 9 IRQ > > > For the Bus controller, the info is Intel 82371AB/ EB pci to usb > > Universal > > > Host controller > > > > > > Offhand the only one that I can see is the USB and the network adaptor, > > > although I'm not sure whether these two actually affect each other, > > > especially since they were like this, I assume, since the Ethernet card > > was > > > installed for me two months ago. The freezing only started since the > new > > > soundcard was installed. > > > > > > Another person mentioned that the soundcard could possibly be > overheating. > > > I have the video card in the top slot, then an open slot, soundcard, > open > > > slot, then network card. Is it possible to attach a fan to the > soundcard, > > > and maybe that might make a difference?? > > > > > > Once again, thanks for all the tips. At the very least, I am learning > > > something, and hopefully I can eventually solve the problem... > > > > > > Dave > > > > > > > > > "Thomas j. Evans" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > > > news:[email hidden]... > > > > On Sat, 6 May 2000 11:39:59 -0400, "Dave St.Onge" > > > > <[email hidden]> wrote: > > > > > > > > >Recently, I purchased the Soundblaster Live! X-Gamer soundcard, and > now > > > my > > > > >computer keeps crashing. I even took the computer in and got the > card > > > > >installed for me, and they deleted all info from my onboard soundcard > > > > >(Crystal), and after about an hour, the thing just freezes up. It > only > > > does > > > > >it when I'm playing games, not if I'm doing anything else. I have > > > Liveware > > > > >3.0 and the most recent drivers for the soundcard, and I even > > downloaded > > > the > > > > >most recent drivers for my Voodoo 3 2000 videocard. Everything I > check > > > > >under Device Manager shows everything is working properly, and is > > showing > > > no > > > > >conflicts. I haven't had any freezing problems before installing the > > > > >soundcard, and I am really at a loss....any help would be greatly > > > > >appreciated.... > > > > > > > > Heheh... "Arrrhh." You sound like I did about four days ago. Only > > > > for me it was more like "ARRRRRRRRRRRRG!!" > > > > > > > > Sounds like it could be an IRQ conflict. I was having similar trouble > > > > with crashes, and I discovered that my SB Live! and my GeForce were > > > > both on IRQ 11. > > > > > > > > To check it out, go to Control Panel > System > Device Manager. Find > > > > your SB Live! - it should be under "sound, video and game > > > > controllers." Double click on it and then select the resources tab > > > > and it will tell you the Interrupt Request. Now do the same for your > > > > video card, network card, and any other devices you have installed. > > > > Make sure nothing else uses the same IRQ as the sound card, especially > > > > not your video card. Also make sure the Crystel device driver is > > > > either not installed (not listed) or disabled if they are listed. You > > > > can disable it by viewing its properties and checking the disable box. > > > > > > > > If you find that another device is using the same IRQ, I suggest > > > > moving the soundcard to another PCI slot. Kinda sucks that you paid > > > > to have it installed if you're only going to move it now, but this > > > > worked for me. It also caused havok for me, but I discovered later > > > > that the problem was I needed to install a special driver for my > > > > chipset, so that won't likely happen to you. > > > > > > > > -T > > > > > > > > > >

On Sat, 6 May 2000 23:00:24 -0400, "daxe" <[email hidden]> thus spoke:

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>Just a FYI, that "SB emulation" is only relevant if you play dos-based >games. The SBLive! default installation loads something at startup (can't >recall what anymore, sorry, check msconfig) that slows everything down and >hogs that IRQ. You can remove all of that if you aren't planning to play >anything which requires a restart in MS-DOS mode. It never hurts to have a >little more in the way of resources. > >~daxe >

It's just a com file to initialize the SB16 emulation. I've ran my computer with and without SB16 emulation on the SBLive! and I don't see any slow down. -- Aguirre

What we're all saying is kill the real mode (autoexec.bat) driver the install program most likely created. Make sure you are using the latest drivers from Creative, and check for individual game patches with SB Live fixes... Hard locks usually have a hardware component, though. Make sure BIOS Shadowing and Video Shadowing are not turned on in the BIOS while you recheck to make sure the onboard audio has been fully disabled. d'tho "daxe" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]...

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> > Aguirre <[email hidden]> wrote in message > news:[email hidden]... > > On Sat, 6 May 2000 23:00:24 -0400, "daxe" <[email hidden]> > > thus spoke: > > > > > > >Just a FYI, that "SB emulation" is only relevant if you play dos-based > > >games. The SBLive! default installation loads something at startup > (can't > > >recall what anymore, sorry, check msconfig) that slows everything down > and > > >hogs that IRQ. You can remove all of that if you aren't planning to

play > > >anything which requires a restart in MS-DOS mode. It never hurts tohave

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> a > > >little more in the way of resources. > > > > > >~daxe > > > > > > > It's just a com file to initialize the SB16 emulation. I've ran my > > computer with and without SB16 emulation on the SBLive! and I don't > > see any slow down. > > I meant that it slowed down the bootup process of the computer, not the > computer operation. No matter the speed, you can better use IRQ 5 for > something else if you don't need it for DOS mode SB16 emulation. > > ~daxe > > >

On Sat, 6 May 2000 11:39:59 -0400, "Dave St.Onge" <[email hidden]> wrote: >Recently, I purchased the Soundblaster Live! X-Gamer soundcard, and now my >computer keeps crashing. [snip]

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>Sys specs... >400 mhz >96 mb ram >Voodoo 3 2000 >Soundblaster Live! X-Gamer > >

Is your computer brand-name? What motherboard does it use? Yours -- Ally

My computer is an NEC 9897 Ready....I bought it in November 1998... Dave "Allienne Goddard" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]... > On Sat, 6 May 2000 11:39:59 -0400, "Dave St.Onge" > <[email hidden]> wrote: > > >Recently, I purchased the Soundblaster Live! X-Gamer soundcard, and nowmy

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> >computer keeps crashing. > [snip] > >Sys specs... > >400 mhz > >96 mb ram > >Voodoo 3 2000 > >Soundblaster Live! X-Gamer > > > > > > Is your computer brand-name? What motherboard does it use? > > Yours -- Ally

On Sun, 7 May 2000 00:48:07 -0400, "daxe" <[email hidden]> thus spoke: >I meant that it slowed down the bootup process of the computer, not the >computer operation. No matter the speed, you can better use IRQ 5 for >something else if you don't need it for DOS mode SB16 emulation. > >~daxe True. My SBLive! defaults to IRQ5 and the SB16 emulation is using IRQ9. I still play some dos games. -- Nos

I had much the same problem you are having, but I had an onboard Soundblaster 16 (on the motherboard) and I purchased the SB Live! Value. I recieved frequent crashes and I found out a solution. I had to disable the Soundblaster 16 in the BIOS (because it was on the motherboard, my bios is AMI-American Megatrends) as well as uninstalling the drivers. Works great now! Good luck Andy Dave St.Onge <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:424R4.1369$[email hidden]... > Well, I was really frustrated earlier in the week, especially since I also > bought the Cambridge DTT 2500's to go with the soundcard, so I have quitean

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> investment, especially with how expensive things are here in Canada. That > said, I am using Win 98, and I went and checked all of the IRQ's and have > noted them below.... > > Voodoo 3 2000 11 IRQ > Sb Live 10 IRQ > SB Emulation 5 IRQ > Network Adaptor for Ethernet Card 9 IRQ > Universal Serial Bus Controller 9 IRQ > For the Bus controller, the info is Intel 82371AB/ EB pci to usb

Universal > Host controller > > Offhand the only one that I can see is the USB and the network adaptor, > although I'm not sure whether these two actually affect each other, > especially since they were like this, I assume, since the Ethernet cardwas

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> installed for me two months ago. The freezing only started since the new > soundcard was installed. > > Another person mentioned that the soundcard could possibly be overheating. > I have the video card in the top slot, then an open slot, soundcard, open > slot, then network card. Is it possible to attach a fan to the soundcard, > and maybe that might make a difference?? > > Once again, thanks for all the tips. At the very least, I am learning > something, and hopefully I can eventually solve the problem... > > Dave > > > "Thomas j. Evans" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > news:[email hidden]... > > On Sat, 6 May 2000 11:39:59 -0400, "Dave St.Onge" > > <[email hidden]> wrote: > > > > >Recently, I purchased the Soundblaster Live! X-Gamer soundcard, and now > my > > >computer keeps crashing. I even took the computer in and got the card > > >installed for me, and they deleted all info from my onboard soundcard > > >(Crystal), and after about an hour, the thing just freezes up. It only > does > > >it when I'm playing games, not if I'm doing anything else. I have > Liveware > > >3.0 and the most recent drivers for the soundcard, and I even

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> no > > >conflicts. I haven't had any freezing problems before installing the > > >soundcard, and I am really at a loss....any help would be greatly > > >appreciated.... > > > > Heheh... "Arrrhh." You sound like I did about four days ago. Only > > for me it was more like "ARRRRRRRRRRRRG!!" > > > > Sounds like it could be an IRQ conflict. I was having similar trouble > > with crashes, and I discovered that my SB Live! and my GeForce were > > both on IRQ 11. > > > > To check it out, go to Control Panel > System > Device Manager. Find > > your SB Live! - it should be under "sound, video and game > > controllers." Double click on it and then select the resources tab > > and it will tell you the Interrupt Request. Now do the same for your > > video card, network card, and any other devices you have installed. > > Make sure nothing else uses the same IRQ as the sound card, especially > > not your video card. Also make sure the Crystel device driver is > > either not installed (not listed) or disabled if they are listed. You > > can disable it by viewing its properties and checking the disable box. > > > > If you find that another device is using the same IRQ, I suggest > > moving the soundcard to another PCI slot. Kinda sucks that you paid > > to have it installed if you're only going to move it now, but this > > worked for me. It also caused havok for me, but I discovered later > > that the problem was I needed to install a special driver for my > > chipset, so that won't likely happen to you. > > > > -T > >

On Sat, 06 May 2000 21:57:33 GMT, [email hidden] (Thomas j. Evans) wrote: >Sounds like it could be an IRQ conflict. I was having similar trouble >with crashes, and I discovered that my SB Live! and my GeForce were >both on IRQ 11. See what we mean? Spend a little time building your own system and you turn into an expert, ready to help other people in their hour of need! -- Mark Stevens http://www.headspin.clara.net/ http://pressx.cjb.net/

On Sun, 07 May 2000 19:33:28 +0100, Mark Stevens <[email hidden]> thus spoke: >See what we mean? Spend a little time building your own system and you >turn into an expert, ready to help other people in their hour of need! Yes, but IRQ's under Windows are supposed to be shareable. Unfortunately that's not always the case. I had a SBLive! sharing the IRQ with my 3DFX card and had no ill effects because of it. I did give them their own IRQ's though because that's what 3DFX recommend. Point being that sharing IRQ's under Win9x is not necessarily a bad thing, so even though you may learn one thing by building a system with certain hardware, it does not apply to all hardware. -- Nos

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>On Sat, 06 May 2000 21:57:33 GMT, [email hidden] (Thomas j. >Evans) wrote: > >>Sounds like it could be an IRQ conflict. I was having similar trouble >>with crashes, and I discovered that my SB Live! and my GeForce were >>both on IRQ 11. > >See what we mean? Spend a little time building your own system and you >turn into an expert, ready to help other people in their hour of need!

Yeah, yeah... The fruits of my labor. :) -T

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>On Sun, 07 May 2000 19:33:28 +0100, Mark Stevens ><[email hidden]> thus spoke: > > >>See what we mean? Spend a little time building your own system and you >>turn into an expert, ready to help other people in their hour of need! > >Yes, but IRQ's under Windows are supposed to be shareable.

Windows95 is also supposed to be able to run on a Pentium with 16megs of RAM. That which is "supposed to be" in Windows is not necessarily so. -T

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> On Sun, 07 May 2000 19:33:28 +0100, Mark Stevens > <[email hidden]> wrote: > > >On Sat, 06 May 2000 21:57:33 GMT, [email hidden] (Thomas j. > >Evans) wrote: > > > >>Sounds like it could be an IRQ conflict. I was having similar trouble > >>with crashes, and I discovered that my SB Live! and my GeForce were > >>both on IRQ 11. > > > >See what we mean? Spend a little time building your own system and you > >turn into an expert, ready to help other people in their hour of need! > > Yeah, yeah... The fruits of my labor. :) > > -T

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>On Sun, 07 May 2000 22:06:19 GMT, [email hidden] (Nos) wrote: > >>On Sun, 07 May 2000 19:33:28 +0100, Mark Stevens >><[email hidden]> thus spoke: >> >> >>>See what we mean? Spend a little time building your own system and you >>>turn into an expert, ready to help other people in their hour of need! >> >>Yes, but IRQ's under Windows are supposed to be shareable. > >Windows95 is also supposed to be able to run on a Pentium with 16megs >of RAM.

I ran it on a 386SX/25 with 8MB of RAM. You could probably get by with a 386SX/16 with 4MB of RAM too, although I wouldn't want to be the one to try it. :) >That which is "supposed to be" in Windows is not necessarily so. This also applies to most other things in life, I've found. :P >-T -Slash "The people on the internet know more about what I am doing than I do. Like, they will say that I am going to be in this mall on this day and sure enough I am there." - Tori Amos, Dew Drop Inn Tour, 17-June-1996

On Sun, 07 May 2000 22:46:25 GMT, [email hidden] (Thomas j. Evans) thus spoke: >That which is "supposed to be" in Windows is not necessarily so. > >-T That's why it's called "Plug 'n' Pray" baby. -- Nos

On Sun, 7 May 2000 19:49:08 -0400, "Dave St.Onge" <[email hidden]> wrote: >And unfortunately, everything recommended, which I have tried, has not >worked out...I amd totally lost with this....and it is really frustrating >me... You said that your NIC and your USB port share an IRQ. By any chance are your new speakers USB speakers? I'm not sure, but the IRQ sharing between USB and the NIC may cause problems if you are using USB. Since you just got the speakers, you wouldn't have had a problem before since you weren't using the USB port. To fix this, try moving the NIC to a different PCI slot. Of course, if your new speakers aren't USB or if they're not even hooked up yet, then nevermind. It's just that you mentioned buying the new speakers to accent the new soundcard, so the problem could be with the speakers not the soundcard. Did you try it with your old speakers? To test the overheating theory, you can open your case and turn on a regular household fan blowing into the system. Not too high or too close, don't want to jostle everything. Just enough so there's a good breeze hitting everything. Then play and see if it still crashes like that. If it doesn't crash with the fan on, then something is overheating. If you don't have one already, get a case fan (fits onto the front of the case under the power switch if your case is ATX). That should help. If it still crashes even with the fan blowing into the system, then it's not an overheating problem. I would guess that it's the motherboard then. Check the BIOS like others have said to be sure that the onboard sound is disabled. To do so, start the computer and then press delete to enter setup (or whichever key it tells you to press for setup). This will take you into BIOS setup. Then look for an item like "Sound Blaster" or "Onboard sound." It may be under "Integrated Peripherals," but it depends on the type of BIOS you have. Make sure this option is DISABLED. You may end up having to get a new motherboard if you want a good sound card like the SB Live! to work. They're not very expensive. $100 - $200 typically. The real problem is that it's not easy to install. You might have to pay a bunch of money to have it done. You could try to install it yourself. It doesn't take a genious, just someone who can learn as he goes. Take it from me - a lot of people on this newsgroup will help you do it as long as you can get access to newsgroups while your computer is in pieces. :) -T

Evans) thus spoke: That's why it's called "Plug 'n' Pray" baby. -- Nos

Have you been watching *** Theory recently ? <G> -- Ian Parker ==

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> > On Sun, 07 May 2000 22:06:19 GMT, [email hidden] (Nos) wrote: > > >On Sun, 07 May 2000 19:33:28 +0100, Mark Stevens > ><[email hidden]> thus spoke: > > > > > >>See what we mean? Spend a little time building your own system and you > >>turn into an expert, ready to help other people in their hour of need! > > > >Yes, but IRQ's under Windows are supposed to be shareable. > > Windows95 is also supposed to be able to run on a Pentium with 16megs > of RAM. > > That which is "supposed to be" in Windows is not necessarily so. > > -T

Have you been watching Conspiracy Theory recently ? <G> -- Ian Parker == Chris <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:8f1rnf$l50$[email hidden]... > My other theory is that Microsoft put these bugs in on purpose and trigger > them whenever they release a new operating system so that you have to buy > the new one. I noticed it on 95 so I bought 98, now it's started again. > Hmmmmmmmmm > > Chris >

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> Recently, I purchased the Soundblaster Live! X-Gamer soundcard, and now my > computer keeps crashing. I even took the computer in and got the card > installed for me, and they deleted all info from my onboard soundcard > (Crystal), and after about an hour, the thing just freezes up. It only does > it when I'm playing games, not if I'm doing anything else. I have Liveware > 3.0 and the most recent drivers for the soundcard, and I even downloaded the > most recent drivers for my Voodoo 3 2000 videocard. Everything I check > under Device Manager shows everything is working properly, and is showing no > conflicts. I haven't had any freezing problems before installing the > soundcard, and I am really at a loss....any help would be greatly > appreciated....

I had a similar problem that turned out to be an overheating problem. I had a ton of stuff crammed into a mini tower, with no fan other than the one internal to the power supply. Also, the IDE ribbon cables were blocking what little airflow the power supply fan would have provided. When I added a fan and rearranged the ribbon cables, the problem went away. This was a couple of years ago with my K6-200 machine. When I got the Celeron 300A with the intent of overclocking, I upgraded to a nice spacious mid-tower and added two more fans. It runs cool and stable at 450MHz. - Nathan P.S. an easy way to test for overheating would be to take the case cover off and point a house fan at the guts of your machine. I wouldn't want to leave a computer sitting open for any extended period of time, though, especially with that cat wandering around getting into everything. /-------------------------------------------------------------------\ | Nathan Carter, System Administrator email: [email hidden] | | Computer Science & Engineering Florida Atlantic University | | "Computers are ruining this country." - Al Bundy |\-------------------------------------------------------------------/

In message <[email hidden]> [email hidden] (Thomas j. Evans) wrote: > On Sun, 07 May 2000 22:06:19 GMT, [email hidden] (Nos) wrote: > > > IRQ's under Windows are supposed to be shareable. > > Windows95 is also supposed to be able to run on a Pentium with 16megs > of RAM. Actually a 386DX with 4MB RAM. :-O > That which is "supposed to be" in Windows is not necessarily so. Indeed. -- Richard. "'Cause I don't care too much for money, money can't buy me love."

In article <[email hidden]>, [email hidden] (Thomas j. Evans) writes:

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>>>See what we mean? Spend a little time building your own system and you >>>turn into an expert, ready to help other people in their hour of need! >> >>Yes, but IRQ's under Windows are supposed to be shareable. > >Windows95 is also supposed to be able to run on a Pentium with 16megs >of RAM. > >That which is "supposed to be" in Windows is not necessarily so. > >-T >

It does. We have MANY systems at work running win95 with 16MB. They're not blazingly FAST, but they run...<g> Eldred -- Tiger Stadium R.I.P. 1912-1999 Own Grand Prix Legends? Goto http://gpl.gamestats.com/vroc Never argue with an idiot. He brings you down to his level, then beats you with experience... Remove SPAM-OFF to reply.

Well, thank-you very much for the tips.....however, it did crash on something other than a game tonight, and after hitting ctrl-alt-del, I did get the following error message on the ole blue screen of death.... Disk Write Error Unable to Write to Disk in Drive C Data or Files May Be Lost I've done a complete Scandisk, going with the "thorough" option, and I guess what concerns me is that maybe the Hard drive is deciding that it wants to retire....any other info would be greatly appreciated re: this error message. Sys specs Win 98 Voodoo 3 2000 SB Live! X-Gamer 400 mhz Pentium II 96 mb Ram Most recent drivers.... Dave "Thomas j. Evans" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]...

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> On Sun, 7 May 2000 19:49:08 -0400, "Dave St.Onge" > <[email hidden]> wrote: > > >And unfortunately, everything recommended, which I have tried, has not > >worked out...I amd totally lost with this....and it is really frustrating > >me... > > You said that your NIC and your USB port share an IRQ. By any chance > are your new speakers USB speakers? I'm not sure, but the IRQ sharing > between USB and the NIC may cause problems if you are using USB. > Since you just got the speakers, you wouldn't have had a problem > before since you weren't using the USB port. To fix this, try moving > the NIC to a different PCI slot. > > Of course, if your new speakers aren't USB or if they're not even > hooked up yet, then nevermind. It's just that you mentioned buying > the new speakers to accent the new soundcard, so the problem could be > with the speakers not the soundcard. Did you try it with your old > speakers? > > To test the overheating theory, you can open your case and turn on a > regular household fan blowing into the system. Not too high or too > close, don't want to jostle everything. Just enough so there's a good > breeze hitting everything. Then play and see if it still crashes like > that. If it doesn't crash with the fan on, then something is > overheating. If you don't have one already, get a case fan (fits onto > the front of the case under the power switch if your case is ATX). > That should help. > > If it still crashes even with the fan blowing into the system, then > it's not an overheating problem. I would guess that it's the > motherboard then. Check the BIOS like others have said to be sure > that the onboard sound is disabled. To do so, start the computer and > then press delete to enter setup (or whichever key it tells you to > press for setup). This will take you into BIOS setup. Then look for > an item like "Sound Blaster" or "Onboard sound." It may be under > "Integrated Peripherals," but it depends on the type of BIOS you have. > Make sure this option is DISABLED. > > You may end up having to get a new motherboard if you want a good > sound card like the SB Live! to work. They're not very expensive. > $100 - $200 typically. The real problem is that it's not easy to > install. You might have to pay a bunch of money to have it done. You > could try to install it yourself. It doesn't take a genious, just > someone who can learn as he goes. Take it from me - a lot of people > on this newsgroup will help you do it as long as you can get access to > newsgroups while your computer is in pieces. :) > > -T

old HDD? scandisked it lately, any bad sectors? HDD overheating? Md "Dave St.Onge" wrote:

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> > Well, thank-you very much for the tips.....however, it did crash on > something other than a game tonight, and after hitting ctrl-alt-del, I did > get the following error message on the ole blue screen of death.... > > Disk Write Error > Unable to Write to Disk in Drive C > Data or Files May Be Lost > > I've done a complete Scandisk, going with the "thorough" option, and I guess > what concerns me is that maybe the Hard drive is deciding that it wants to > retire....any other info would be greatly appreciated re: this error > message. > > Sys specs > Win 98 > Voodoo 3 2000 > SB Live! X-Gamer > 400 mhz Pentium II > 96 mb Ram > Most recent drivers.... > > Dave > > "Thomas j. Evans" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > news:[email hidden]... > > On Sun, 7 May 2000 19:49:08 -0400, "Dave St.Onge" > > <[email hidden]> wrote: > > > > >And unfortunately, everything recommended, which I have tried, has not > > >worked out...I amd totally lost with this....and it is really frustrating > > >me... > > > > You said that your NIC and your USB port share an IRQ. By any chance > > are your new speakers USB speakers? I'm not sure, but the IRQ sharing > > between USB and the NIC may cause problems if you are using USB. > > Since you just got the speakers, you wouldn't have had a problem > > before since you weren't using the USB port. To fix this, try moving > > the NIC to a different PCI slot. > > > > Of course, if your new speakers aren't USB or if they're not even > > hooked up yet, then nevermind. It's just that you mentioned buying > > the new speakers to accent the new soundcard, so the problem could be > > with the speakers not the soundcard. Did you try it with your old > > speakers? > > > > To test the overheating theory, you can open your case and turn on a > > regular household fan blowing into the system. Not too high or too > > close, don't want to jostle everything. Just enough so there's a good > > breeze hitting everything. Then play and see if it still crashes like > > that. If it doesn't crash with the fan on, then something is > > overheating. If you don't have one already, get a case fan (fits onto > > the front of the case under the power switch if your case is ATX). > > That should help. > > > > If it still crashes even with the fan blowing into the system, then > > it's not an overheating problem. I would guess that it's the > > motherboard then. Check the BIOS like others have said to be sure > > that the onboard sound is disabled. To do so, start the computer and > > then press delete to enter setup (or whichever key it tells you to > > press for setup). This will take you into BIOS setup. Then look for > > an item like "Sound Blaster" or "Onboard sound." It may be under > > "Integrated Peripherals," but it depends on the type of BIOS you have. > > Make sure this option is DISABLED. > > > > You may end up having to get a new motherboard if you want a good > > sound card like the SB Live! to work. They're not very expensive. > > $100 - $200 typically. The real problem is that it's not easy to > > install. You might have to pay a bunch of money to have it done. You > > could try to install it yourself. It doesn't take a genious, just > > someone who can learn as he goes. Take it from me - a lot of people > > on this newsgroup will help you do it as long as you can get access to > > newsgroups while your computer is in pieces. :) > > > > -T

After every crash, I get a scandisk error, and it "supposedly" gets fixed when I do scandisk. I did a "thorough" scandisk, as opposed to standard, and there were no errors. In terms of overheating, I doubt it since I had the computer open with an 8" fan about 2" away from the computer when it froze and I got this message. Dave "Martyn Danby" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]...

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> old HDD? > > scandisked it lately, any bad sectors? > HDD overheating? > > Md > > "Dave St.Onge" wrote: > > > > Well, thank-you very much for the tips.....however, it did crash on > > something other than a game tonight, and after hitting ctrl-alt-del, I

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> > retire....any other info would be greatly appreciated re: this error > > message. > > > > Sys specs > > Win 98 > > Voodoo 3 2000 > > SB Live! X-Gamer > > 400 mhz Pentium II > > 96 mb Ram > > Most recent drivers.... > > > > Dave > > > > "Thomas j. Evans" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > > news:[email hidden]... > > > On Sun, 7 May 2000 19:49:08 -0400, "Dave St.Onge" > > > <[email hidden]> wrote: > > > > > > >And unfortunately, everything recommended, which I have tried, has

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> > > >me... > > > > > > You said that your NIC and your USB port share an IRQ. By any chance > > > are your new speakers USB speakers? I'm not sure, but the IRQ sharing > > > between USB and the NIC may cause problems if you are using USB. > > > Since you just got the speakers, you wouldn't have had a problem > > > before since you weren't using the USB port. To fix this, try moving > > > the NIC to a different PCI slot. > > > > > > Of course, if your new speakers aren't USB or if they're not even > > > hooked up yet, then nevermind. It's just that you mentioned buying > > > the new speakers to accent the new soundcard, so the problem could be > > > with the speakers not the soundcard. Did you try it with your old > > > speakers? > > > > > > To test the overheating theory, you can open your case and turn on a > > > regular household fan blowing into the system. Not too high or too > > > close, don't want to jostle everything. Just enough so there's a good > > > breeze hitting everything. Then play and see if it still crashes like > > > that. If it doesn't crash with the fan on, then something is > > > overheating. If you don't have one already, get a case fan (fits onto > > > the front of the case under the power switch if your case is ATX). > > > That should help. > > > > > > If it still crashes even with the fan blowing into the system, then > > > it's not an overheating problem. I would guess that it's the > > > motherboard then. Check the BIOS like others have said to be sure > > > that the onboard sound is disabled. To do so, start the computer and > > > then press delete to enter setup (or whichever key it tells you to > > > press for setup). This will take you into BIOS setup. Then look for > > > an item like "Sound Blaster" or "Onboard sound." It may be under > > > "Integrated Peripherals," but it depends on the type of BIOS you have. > > > Make sure this option is DISABLED. > > > > > > You may end up having to get a new motherboard if you want a good > > > sound card like the SB Live! to work. They're not very expensive. > > > $100 - $200 typically. The real problem is that it's not easy to > > > install. You might have to pay a bunch of money to have it done. You > > > could try to install it yourself. It doesn't take a genious, just > > > someone who can learn as he goes. Take it from me - a lot of people > > > on this newsgroup will help you do it as long as you can get access to > > > newsgroups while your computer is in pieces. :) > > > > > > -T

I also checked the connections to make sure everything was hooked up properly... Dave "Dave St.Onge" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:1lSR4.413$[email hidden]...

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> After every crash, I get a scandisk error, and it "supposedly" gets fixed > when I do scandisk. I did a "thorough" scandisk, as opposed to standard, > and there were no errors. In terms of overheating, I doubt it since I had > the computer open with an 8" fan about 2" away from the computer when it > froze and I got this message. > > Dave > > > "Martyn Danby" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > news:[email hidden]... > > old HDD? > > > > scandisked it lately, any bad sectors? > > HDD overheating? > > > > Md > > > > "Dave St.Onge" wrote: > > > > > > Well, thank-you very much for the tips.....however, it did crash on > > > something other than a game tonight, and after hitting ctrl-alt-del, I > did > > > get the following error message on the ole blue screen of death.... > > > > > > Disk Write Error > > > Unable to Write to Disk in Drive C > > > Data or Files May Be Lost > > > > > > I've done a complete Scandisk, going with the "thorough" option, and I > guess > > > what concerns me is that maybe the Hard drive is deciding that it

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> to > > > retire....any other info would be greatly appreciated re: this error > > > message. > > > > > > Sys specs > > > Win 98 > > > Voodoo 3 2000 > > > SB Live! X-Gamer > > > 400 mhz Pentium II > > > 96 mb Ram > > > Most recent drivers.... > > > > > > Dave > > > > > > "Thomas j. Evans" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > > > news:[email hidden]... > > > > On Sun, 7 May 2000 19:49:08 -0400, "Dave St.Onge" > > > > <[email hidden]> wrote: > > > > > > > > >And unfortunately, everything recommended, which I have tried, has > not > > > > >worked out...I amd totally lost with this....and it is really > frustrating > > > > >me... > > > > > > > > You said that your NIC and your USB port share an IRQ. By any

chance > > > > are your new speakers USB speakers? I'm not sure, but the IRQsharing > > > > between USB and the NIC may cause problems if you are using USB. > > > > Since you just got the speakers, you wouldn't have had a problem > > > > before since you weren't using the USB port. To fix this, trymoving > > > > the NIC to a different PCI slot. > > > > > > > > Of course, if your new speakers aren't USB or if they're not even > > > > hooked up yet, then nevermind. It's just that you mentioned buying > > > > the new speakers to accent the new soundcard, so the problem couldbe > > > > with the speakers not the soundcard. Did you try it with your old > > > > speakers? > > > > > > > > To test the overheating theory, you can open your case and turn on a > > > > regular household fan blowing into the system. Not too high or too > > > > close, don't want to jostle everything. Just enough so there's agood > > > > breeze hitting everything. Then play and see if it still crasheslike > > > > that. If it doesn't crash with the fan on, then something is > > > > overheating. If you don't have one already, get a case fan (fitsonto

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> > > > the front of the case under the power switch if your case is ATX). > > > > That should help. > > > > > > > > If it still crashes even with the fan blowing into the system, then > > > > it's not an overheating problem. I would guess that it's the > > > > motherboard then. Check the BIOS like others have said to be sure > > > > that the onboard sound is disabled. To do so, start the computer

and > > > > then press delete to enter setup (or whichever key it tells you to > > > > press for setup). This will take you into BIOS setup. Then lookfor > > > > an item like "Sound Blaster" or "Onboard sound." It may be under > > > > "Integrated Peripherals," but it depends on the type of BIOS youhave. > > > > Make sure this option is DISABLED. > > > > > > > > You may end up having to get a new motherboard if you want a good > > > > sound card like the SB Live! to work. They're not very expensive. > > > > $100 - $200 typically. The real problem is that it's not easy to > > > > install. You might have to pay a bunch of money to have it done.You > > > > could try to install it yourself. It doesn't take a genious, just > > > > someone who can learn as he goes. Take it from me - a lot of people > > > > on this newsgroup will help you do it as long as you can get accessto > > > > newsgroups while your computer is in pieces. :) > > > > > > > > -T > >

Hmm it has me stumped Dave Your guess that the HDD maybe on its last legs could be correct, however it may not be.... Sorry Dave Md "Dave St.Onge" wrote:

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> > I also checked the connections to make sure everything was hooked up > properly... > > Dave > > "Dave St.Onge" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > news:1lSR4.413$[email hidden]... > > After every crash, I get a scandisk error, and it "supposedly" gets fixed > > when I do scandisk. I did a "thorough" scandisk, as opposed to standard, > > and there were no errors. In terms of overheating, I doubt it since I had > > the computer open with an 8" fan about 2" away from the computer when it > > froze and I got this message. > > > > Dave > > > > > > "Martyn Danby" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > > news:[email hidden]... > > > old HDD? > > > > > > scandisked it lately, any bad sectors? > > > HDD overheating? > > > > > > Md > > > > > > "Dave St.Onge" wrote: > > > > > > > > Well, thank-you very much for the tips.....however, it did crash on > > > > something other than a game tonight, and after hitting ctrl-alt-del, I > > did > > > > get the following error message on the ole blue screen of death.... > > > > > > > > Disk Write Error > > > > Unable to Write to Disk in Drive C > > > > Data or Files May Be Lost > > > > > > > > I've done a complete Scandisk, going with the "thorough" option, and I > > guess > > > > what concerns me is that maybe the Hard drive is deciding that it > wants > > to > > > > retire....any other info would be greatly appreciated re: this error > > > > message. > > > > > > > > Sys specs > > > > Win 98 > > > > Voodoo 3 2000 > > > > SB Live! X-Gamer > > > > 400 mhz Pentium II > > > > 96 mb Ram > > > > Most recent drivers.... > > > > > > > > Dave > > > > > > > > "Thomas j. Evans" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > > > > news:[email hidden]... > > > > > On Sun, 7 May 2000 19:49:08 -0400, "Dave St.Onge" > > > > > <[email hidden]> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > >And unfortunately, everything recommended, which I have tried, has > > not > > > > > >worked out...I amd totally lost with this....and it is really > > frustrating > > > > > >me... > > > > > > > > > > You said that your NIC and your USB port share an IRQ. By any > chance > > > > > are your new speakers USB speakers? I'm not sure, but the IRQ > sharing > > > > > between USB and the NIC may cause problems if you are using USB. > > > > > Since you just got the speakers, you wouldn't have had a problem > > > > > before since you weren't using the USB port. To fix this, try > moving > > > > > the NIC to a different PCI slot. > > > > > > > > > > Of course, if your new speakers aren't USB or if they're not even > > > > > hooked up yet, then nevermind. It's just that you mentioned buying > > > > > the new speakers to accent the new soundcard, so the problem could > be > > > > > with the speakers not the soundcard. Did you try it with your old > > > > > speakers? > > > > > > > > > > To test the overheating theory, you can open your case and turn on a > > > > > regular household fan blowing into the system. Not too high or too > > > > > close, don't want to jostle everything. Just enough so there's a > good > > > > > breeze hitting everything. Then play and see if it still crashes > like > > > > > that. If it doesn't crash with the fan on, then something is > > > > > overheating. If you don't have one already, get a case fan (fits > onto > > > > > the front of the case under the power switch if your case is ATX). > > > > > That should help. > > > > > > > > > > If it still crashes even with the fan blowing into the system, then > > > > > it's not an overheating problem. I would guess that it's the > > > > > motherboard then. Check the BIOS like others have said to be sure > > > > > that the onboard sound is disabled. To do so, start the computer > and > > > > > then press delete to enter setup (or whichever key it tells you to > > > > > press for setup). This will take you into BIOS setup. Then look > for > > > > > an item like "Sound Blaster" or "Onboard sound." It may be under > > > > > "Integrated Peripherals," but it depends on the type of BIOS you > have. > > > > > Make sure this option is DISABLED. > > > > > > > > > > You may end up having to get a new motherboard if you want a good > > > > > sound card like the SB Live! to work. They're not very expensive. > > > > > $100 - $200 typically. The real problem is that it's not easy to > > > > > install. You might have to pay a bunch of money to have it done. > You > > > > > could try to install it yourself. It doesn't take a genious, just > > > > > someone who can learn as he goes. Take it from me - a lot of people > > > > > on this newsgroup will help you do it as long as you can get access > to > > > > > newsgroups while your computer is in pieces. :) > > > > > > > > > > -T > > > >

On Mon, 8 May 2000 20:59:24 -0400, "Dave St.Onge" <[email hidden]> wrote:

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>Well, thank-you very much for the tips.....however, it did crash on >something other than a game tonight, and after hitting ctrl-alt-del, I did >get the following error message on the ole blue screen of death.... > >Disk Write Error >Unable to Write to Disk in Drive C >Data or Files May Be Lost

Umm... well, this is a shot in the dark, but... your C drive isn't full is it? Make sure there is a good 50 to 100mb free on the C drive. Otherwise, my final suggestion, before tossing it into the garbage and shelling out money for new parts, is to reformat and reinstall Win98. This is an annoying, arduous task, but it may be what the doctor ordered, especially if the HD is old and has seen many days of program installations and registry edits and so on and so forth. -T

The hard drive is 10.1 gb, and has 3.8 gb free space on it...basically, I'm taking the thing back to the shop tomorrow, and going to get them to check it out...terribly frustrating.... Dave "Thomas j. Evans" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]... > On Mon, 8 May 2000 20:59:24 -0400, "Dave St.Onge" > <[email hidden]> wrote: > > >Well, thank-you very much for the tips.....however, it did crash on > >something other than a game tonight, and after hitting ctrl-alt-del, Idid

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> >get the following error message on the ole blue screen of death.... > > > >Disk Write Error > >Unable to Write to Disk in Drive C > >Data or Files May Be Lost > > Umm... well, this is a shot in the dark, but... your C drive isn't > full is it? Make sure there is a good 50 to 100mb free on the C > drive. > > Otherwise, my final suggestion, before tossing it into the garbage and > shelling out money for new parts, is to reformat and reinstall Win98. > This is an annoying, arduous task, but it may be what the doctor > ordered, especially if the HD is old and has seen many days of program > installations and registry edits and so on and so forth. > > -T

Jeff <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:8fbo99$kj3$[email hidden]... > > My wife's computer is a 486-100 w/ 16 megs of RAM... > running Win 95. :-) My wife's computer is a Pentium 120 w/16 megs of RAM running Windows 98! Runs fine. Pops...

We have an old 486sx running NT 4.0 SP4 with 16 megs! It's only a print server, but hey, it runs! ...Coliun Jeff <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:8fbo99$kj3$[email hidden]... > In article <[email hidden]>,[email hidden] (Thomas j. Evans) wrote:

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> > >Windows95 is also supposed to be able to run on a Pentium with 16megs > >of RAM. > > > >That which is "supposed to be" in Windows is not necessarily so. > > My wife's computer is a 486-100 w/ 16 megs of RAM... > running Win 95. :-)

Hi Dave, I would strongly recommend disabling the USB port from your CMOS setup screen or change the IRQ. I have a similar setup and the USB port was conflicting with another card. Disabling the USB fixed all the problems (well except that my Digital Video Camera is USB, so I have to get it working sometime ;) Your USB port might have been using IRQ 10 before the installation of the Soundcard, that could explain why it worked before the new soundcard installation. Just disable the USB port if you can. Jason. "Dave St.Onge" wrote:

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> Well, I was really frustrated earlier in the week, especially since I also > bought the Cambridge DTT 2500's to go with the soundcard, so I have quite an > investment, especially with how expensive things are here in Canada. That > said, I am using Win 98, and I went and checked all of the IRQ's and have > noted them below.... > > Voodoo 3 2000 11 IRQ > Sb Live 10 IRQ > SB Emulation 5 IRQ > Network Adaptor for Ethernet Card 9 IRQ > Universal Serial Bus Controller 9 IRQ > For the Bus controller, the info is Intel 82371AB/ EB pci to usb Universal > Host controller > > Offhand the only one that I can see is the USB and the network adaptor, > although I'm not sure whether these two actually affect each other, > especially since they were like this, I assume, since the Ethernet card was > installed for me two months ago. The freezing only started since the new > soundcard was installed. > > Another person mentioned that the soundcard could possibly be overheating. > I have the video card in the top slot, then an open slot, soundcard, open > slot, then network card. Is it possible to attach a fan to the soundcard, > and maybe that might make a difference?? > > Once again, thanks for all the tips. At the very least, I am learning > something, and hopefully I can eventually solve the problem... > > Dave >

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The disk errors are probably a result of the disk cache failing when writing back data. I'd try two things. Do you still have the HD from an old machine or another machine. Try putting it in as a slave and configuring the disk cache to function on that drive. It may be a bit slower as an older drive isn't likely to be as fast or even an UltraDMA but it might isolate the problem. Memory failure is another potential culprit but it's unlikely you've got 96MB lying around. You might want to examine the simms and be sure they're compatible with the CMOS settings. It might be possible to check some of the simms by simply removing them one at a time and seeing if the problem persists. If you're running 16-16-32-32 you could run W98 on 64MB if you had to. Good luck GLB "Dave St.Onge" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:xASR4.419$[email hidden]...

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> I also checked the connections to make sure everything was hooked up > properly... > > Dave > > > "Dave St.Onge" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > news:1lSR4.413$[email hidden]... > > After every crash, I get a scandisk error, and it "supposedly" gets

fixed > > when I do scandisk. I did a "thorough" scandisk, as opposed tostandard, > > and there were no errors. In terms of overheating, I doubt it since Ihad

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> > the computer open with an 8" fan about 2" away from the computer when it > > froze and I got this message. > > > > Dave > > > > > > "Martyn Danby" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > > news:[email hidden]... > > > old HDD? > > > > > > scandisked it lately, any bad sectors? > > > HDD overheating? > > > > > > Md > > > > > > "Dave St.Onge" wrote: > > > > > > > > Well, thank-you very much for the tips.....however, it did crash on > > > > something other than a game tonight, and after hitting ctrl-alt-del,

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> > did > > > > get the following error message on the ole blue screen of death.... > > > > > > > > Disk Write Error > > > > Unable to Write to Disk in Drive C > > > > Data or Files May Be Lost > > > > > > > > I've done a complete Scandisk, going with the "thorough" option, and

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> > guess > > > > what concerns me is that maybe the Hard drive is deciding that it > wants > > to > > > > retire....any other info would be greatly appreciated re: this error > > > > message. > > > > > > > > Sys specs > > > > Win 98 > > > > Voodoo 3 2000 > > > > SB Live! X-Gamer > > > > 400 mhz Pentium II > > > > 96 mb Ram > > > > Most recent drivers.... > > > > > > > > Dave > > > > > > > > "Thomas j. Evans" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > > > > news:[email hidden]... > > > > > On Sun, 7 May 2000 19:49:08 -0400, "Dave St.Onge" > > > > > <[email hidden]> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > >And unfortunately, everything recommended, which I have tried,

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> > not > > > > > >worked out...I amd totally lost with this....and it is really > > frustrating > > > > > >me... > > > > > > > > > > You said that your NIC and your USB port share an IRQ. By any > chance > > > > > are your new speakers USB speakers? I'm not sure, but the IRQ > sharing > > > > > between USB and the NIC may cause problems if you are using USB. > > > > > Since you just got the speakers, you wouldn't have had a problem > > > > > before since you weren't using the USB port. To fix this, try > moving > > > > > the NIC to a different PCI slot. > > > > > > > > > > Of course, if your new speakers aren't USB or if they're not even > > > > > hooked up yet, then nevermind. It's just that you mentioned

buying > > > > > the new speakers to accent the new soundcard, so the problem could > be > > > > > with the speakers not the soundcard. Did you try it with your old > > > > > speakers? > > > > > > > > > > To test the overheating theory, you can open your case and turn ona > > > > > regular household fan blowing into the system. Not too high ortoo

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> > > > > close, don't want to jostle everything. Just enough so there's a > good > > > > > breeze hitting everything. Then play and see if it still crashes > like > > > > > that. If it doesn't crash with the fan on, then something is > > > > > overheating. If you don't have one already, get a case fan (fits > onto > > > > > the front of the case under the power switch if your case is ATX). > > > > > That should help. > > > > > > > > > > If it still crashes even with the fan blowing into the system,

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> > > > > it's not an overheating problem. I would guess that it's the > > > > > motherboard then. Check the BIOS like others have said to be sure > > > > > that the onboard sound is disabled. To do so, start the computer > and > > > > > then press delete to enter setup (or whichever key it tells you to > > > > > press for setup). This will take you into BIOS setup. Then look > for > > > > > an item like "Sound Blaster" or "Onboard sound." It may be under > > > > > "Integrated Peripherals," but it depends on the type of BIOS you > have. > > > > > Make sure this option is DISABLED. > > > > > > > > > > You may end up having to get a new motherboard if you want a good > > > > > sound card like the SB Live! to work. They're not very expensive. > > > > > $100 - $200 typically. The real problem is that it's not easy to > > > > > install. You might have to pay a bunch of money to have it done. > You > > > > > could try to install it yourself. It doesn't take a genious, just > > > > > someone who can learn as he goes. Take it from me - a lot of

people > > > > > on this newsgroup will help you do it as long as you can getaccess

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> to > > > > > newsgroups while your computer is in pieces. :) > > > > > > > > > > -T > > > > > >

Like he said, try reinstalling Win98. I've had drives that became very tempermental where reinstalling Win98 solved the problem. In article <hW%R4.11$[email hidden]>, Dave St.Onge wrote:

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>The hard drive is 10.1 gb, and has 3.8 gb free space on it...basically, I'm >taking the thing back to the shop tomorrow, and going to get them to check >it out...terribly frustrating.... > >Dave > > >"Thomas j. Evans" <[email hidden]> wrote in message >news:[email hidden]... >> On Mon, 8 May 2000 20:59:24 -0400, "Dave St.Onge" >> <[email hidden]> wrote: >> >> >Well, thank-you very much for the tips.....however, it did crash on >> >something other than a game tonight, and after hitting ctrl-alt-del, I >did >> >get the following error message on the ole blue screen of death.... >> > >> >Disk Write Error >> >Unable to Write to Disk in Drive C >> >Data or Files May Be Lost >> >> Umm... well, this is a shot in the dark, but... your C drive isn't >> full is it? Make sure there is a good 50 to 100mb free on the C >> drive. >> >> Otherwise, my final suggestion, before tossing it into the garbage and >> shelling out money for new parts, is to reformat and reinstall Win98. >> This is an annoying, arduous task, but it may be what the doctor >> ordered, especially if the HD is old and has seen many days of program >> installations and registry edits and so on and so forth. >> >> -T > >

I don't have a second hd lying around. As for the RAM, I have a 32 and a 64 and an open slot. I haven't bought any RAM since I purchased the computer, and this is the way it was configured when I bought it... Dave "Gary L. Bogenberger" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:d82S4.54$qb3.14440@elnws01... > The disk errors are probably a result of the disk cache failing whenwriting

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> back data. I'd try two things. Do you still have the HD from an old > machine or another machine. Try putting it in as a slave and configuring > the disk cache to function on that drive. It may be a bit slower as an > older drive isn't likely to be as fast or even an UltraDMA but it might > isolate the problem. > > Memory failure is another potential culprit but it's unlikely you've got > 96MB lying around. You might want to examine the simms and be sure

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> compatible with the CMOS settings. It might be possible to check some of > the simms by simply removing them one at a time and seeing if the problem > persists. If you're running 16-16-32-32 you could run W98 on 64MB if you > had to. > > Good luck > > GLB > > "Dave St.Onge" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > news:xASR4.419$[email hidden]... > > I also checked the connections to make sure everything was hooked up > > properly... > > > > Dave > > > > > > "Dave St.Onge" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > > news:1lSR4.413$[email hidden]... > > > After every crash, I get a scandisk error, and it "supposedly" gets > fixed > > > when I do scandisk. I did a "thorough" scandisk, as opposed to > standard, > > > and there were no errors. In terms of overheating, I doubt it since I > had > > > the computer open with an 8" fan about 2" away from the computer when

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> > > froze and I got this message. > > > > > > Dave > > > > > > > > > "Martyn Danby" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > > > news:[email hidden]... > > > > old HDD? > > > > > > > > scandisked it lately, any bad sectors? > > > > HDD overheating? > > > > > > > > Md > > > > > > > > "Dave St.Onge" wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Well, thank-you very much for the tips.....however, it did crash

on > > > > > something other than a game tonight, and after hittingctrl-alt-del, > I > > > did > > > > > get the following error message on the ole blue screen ofdeath.... > > > > > > > > > > Disk Write Error > > > > > Unable to Write to Disk in Drive C > > > > > Data or Files May Be Lost > > > > > > > > > > I've done a complete Scandisk, going with the "thorough" option,and > I > > > guess > > > > > what concerns me is that maybe the Hard drive is deciding that it > > wants > > > to > > > > > retire....any other info would be greatly appreciated re: thiserror

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> > > > > message. > > > > > > > > > > Sys specs > > > > > Win 98 > > > > > Voodoo 3 2000 > > > > > SB Live! X-Gamer > > > > > 400 mhz Pentium II > > > > > 96 mb Ram > > > > > Most recent drivers.... > > > > > > > > > > Dave > > > > > > > > > > "Thomas j. Evans" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > > > > > news:[email hidden]... > > > > > > On Sun, 7 May 2000 19:49:08 -0400, "Dave St.Onge" > > > > > > <[email hidden]> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > >And unfortunately, everything recommended, which I have tried, > has > > > not > > > > > > >worked out...I amd totally lost with this....and it is really > > > frustrating > > > > > > >me... > > > > > > > > > > > > You said that your NIC and your USB port share an IRQ. By any > > chance > > > > > > are your new speakers USB speakers? I'm not sure, but the IRQ > > sharing > > > > > > between USB and the NIC may cause problems if you are using USB. > > > > > > Since you just got the speakers, you wouldn't have had a problem > > > > > > before since you weren't using the USB port. To fix this, try > > moving > > > > > > the NIC to a different PCI slot. > > > > > > > > > > > > Of course, if your new speakers aren't USB or if they're not

even > > > > > > hooked up yet, then nevermind. It's just that you mentioned > buying > > > > > > the new speakers to accent the new soundcard, so the problemcould > > be > > > > > > with the speakers not the soundcard. Did you try it with yourold > > > > > > speakers? > > > > > > > > > > > > To test the overheating theory, you can open your case and turnon > a > > > > > > regular household fan blowing into the system. Not too high or > too > > > > > > close, don't want to jostle everything. Just enough so there'sa > > good > > > > > > breeze hitting everything. Then play and see if it stillcrashes > > like > > > > > > that. If it doesn't crash with the fan on, then something is > > > > > > overheating. If you don't have one already, get a case fan(fits > > onto > > > > > > the front of the case under the power switch if your case isATX). > > > > > > That should help. > > > > > > > > > > > > If it still crashes even with the fan blowing into the system, > then > > > > > > it's not an overheating problem. I would guess that it's the > > > > > > motherboard then. Check the BIOS like others have said to besure > > > > > > that the onboard sound is disabled. To do so, start thecomputer > > and > > > > > > then press delete to enter setup (or whichever key it tells youto > > > > > > press for setup). This will take you into BIOS setup. Thenlook > > for > > > > > > an item like "Sound Blaster" or "Onboard sound." It may beunder > > > > > > "Integrated Peripherals," but it depends on the type of BIOS you > > have. > > > > > > Make sure this option is DISABLED. > > > > > > > > > > > > You may end up having to get a new motherboard if you want agood > > > > > > sound card like the SB Live! to work. They're not veryexpensive. > > > > > > $100 - $200 typically. The real problem is that it's not easyto > > > > > > install. You might have to pay a bunch of money to have itdone. > > You > > > > > > could try to install it yourself. It doesn't take a genious,just

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> > > > > > someone who can learn as he goes. Take it from me - a lot of > people > > > > > > on this newsgroup will help you do it as long as you can get > access > > to > > > > > > newsgroups while your computer is in pieces. :) > > > > > > > > > > > > -T > > > > > > > > > > > >

In article <[email hidden]>, [email hidden] (Thomas j. Evans) wrote: >Windows95 is also supposed to be able to run on a Pentium with 16megs >of RAM. > >That which is "supposed to be" in Windows is not necessarily so. My wife's computer is a 486-100 w/ 16 megs of RAM... running Win 95. :-)