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Michael Schumacher's $10 million tsunami aid donation
A poster linked news that Michael Schumacher had donated $10 million to relief after the 2004 Indian Ocean tsunami. Replies discussed whether donations should be made public, the size of the gift relative to his wealth, and worries about corruption in aid distribution. A poster living in Malaysia added a local view. One troll's insults drew angry responses.
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What a showoff ;>)
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> http://sports.espn.go.com/espn/news/story?id=1959051 > > Wow. > > > -- > David G Fisher > >JTS wrote:
I gave Red Cross $50 earlier today. Considering Schumi's net worth vs
mine I'd say were about equal in the donation dept :-)
Mitch
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> What a showoff ;>) > > "David G Fisher" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > news:[email hidden]... >> http://sports.espn.go.com/espn/news/story?id=1959051 >> >> Wow. >> >> >> -- >> David G Fisher >> >>Mitch_A wrote:
George bush gave $10,000... 1000 times less than schumacher
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> JTS wrote: > > >>What a showoff ;>) >> >>"David G Fisher" <[email hidden]> wrote in message >>news:[email hidden]... >> >>>http://sports.espn.go.com/espn/news/story?id=1959051 >>> >>>Wow. >>> >>> >>>-- >>>David G Fisher >>> >>> > > > I gave Red Cross $50 earlier today. Considering Schumi's net worth vs > mine I'd say were about equal in the donation dept :-) > > Mitch > >
"Mitch_A" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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Of course he's loaded, but that still represents about 10 - 20% of his
annual income. I made my own modest effort, 10-20%... think about it. That
is a substantial gesture, and it will be interesting to see who else steps
up. Schumy's "neighbours" (Tina Turner, Phil Collins, IKEA founder, several
major bankers etc.) here in Switzerland have comparable wealth, but I
haven't heard much noise about their donations.
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> JTS wrote: > >> What a showoff ;>) >> >> "David G Fisher" <[email hidden]> wrote in message >> news:[email hidden]... >>> http://sports.espn.go.com/espn/news/story?id=1959051 >>> >>> Wow. >>> >>> >>> -- >>> David G Fisher >>> >>> > > I gave Red Cross $50 earlier today. Considering Schumi's net worth vs > mine I'd say were about equal in the donation dept :-) > > Mitch >
> up. Schumy's "neighbours" (Tina Turner, Phil Collins, IKEA founder, several
> major bankers etc.) here in Switzerland have comparable wealth, but I
> haven't heard much noise about their donations.
Maybe they prefer *not* to talk about it in public?
Just a thought.
uwe
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"Uwe Sch�rkamp" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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Entirely true. Some choose to be anonymous, some disclose their
contribution, perhaps to motivate others. It turns out Schumy had a very
personal reason to donate (his bodyguard and bodyguard's children were
killed in the flood). Every donation is great, no matter the amount.
SF
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> >> up. Schumy's "neighbours" (Tina Turner, Phil Collins, IKEA founder, >> several >> major bankers etc.) here in Switzerland have comparable wealth, but I >> haven't heard much noise about their donations. > > Maybe they prefer *not* to talk about it in public? > > Just a thought. > > uwe > >Uwe Sch�rkamp wrote:
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> Maybe they prefer *not* to talk about it in public?
Talking can help raise more funds as others may feel they're put to shame if
they don't donate. I think if someone seriously wants to support someone or
something, he'll donate and then talk about it, to make others follow his example.
Achim
Joachim Trensz wrote:
what a self serving prick you are boasting abotu donations
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> Uwe Sch�rkamp wrote: > ... > >> Maybe they prefer *not* to talk about it in public? > > > Talking can help raise more funds as others may feel they're put to > shame if they don't donate. I think if someone seriously wants to > support someone or something, he'll donate and then talk about it, to > make others follow his example. > > AchimDavid G Fisher wrote:
> http://sports.espn.go.com/espn/news/story?id=1959051
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> Wow.
>
> Just think of the tax relief! Wow!!
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Good job Mitch, not that it'll help though imo; with the widespread
corruption in that part of the world, I'd be surprised if a lot of the aid,
especially $, ever gets to where its needed. That, and the various ethnic
groups, tribes, etc use the donated food, etc. as a weapon too, ala Somalia.
But hopefully I'll be wrong <g>
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> JTS wrote: > > > What a showoff ;>) > > > > "David G Fisher" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > > news:[email hidden]... > >> http://sports.espn.go.com/espn/news/story?id=1959051 > >> > >> Wow. > >> > >> > >> -- > >> David G Fisher > >> > >> > > I gave Red Cross $50 earlier today. Considering Schumi's net worth vs > mine I'd say were about equal in the donation dept :-) > > Mitch > > > -- > Remove the nospam. to reply. > > Kontact enabled ______buster wrote:
('buster' huh? Too cowardly to use a real name...)
You are arguably the biggest jackass to post here in many years.
Would you please do us all a BIG favor?!
Kindly STFU, then crawl back into the slime slathered sewer pipe you
emerged from.
-Greg
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> Joachim Trensz wrote: >> Talking can help raise more funds as others may feel they're put to >> shame if they don't donate.... >> Achim > what a self serving prick you are boasting abotu donations
"Joachim Trensz" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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> Uwe Sch�rkamp wrote:
> ...
> > Maybe they prefer *not* to talk about it in public?
>
> Talking can help raise more funds as others may feel they're put to shameif
> they don't donate. I think if someone seriously wants to support someoneor
> something, he'll donate and then talk about it, to make others follow hisexample.
>
> Achim
I have to think a $10 million anonymous donation would be just as effective.
"Biz" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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shame
> if
> > they don't donate. I think if someone seriously wants to support someone
> or
> > something, he'll donate and then talk about it, to make others followhis
> example.
> >
> > Achim
>
> I have to think a $10 million anonymous donation would be just aseffective.
It would be impossible for the world's most famous sports star to make an
anonymous 10 million dollar donation.
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> > "Joachim Trensz" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > news:[email hidden]... > > Uwe Sch�rkamp wrote: > > ... > > > Maybe they prefer *not* to talk about it in public? > > > > Talking can help raise more funds as others may feel they're put toBiz wrote:
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> I have to think a $10 million anonymous donation would be just as effective.
The way I see it, Schumi so far is the only F1 driver having made a major
contribution. His example could exert a certain pressure on others in F1 to
follow his example.
Hence, I think it's good he (or rather his management) made it public. There's
so much money in F1. I'm surprised nobody has asked yet where F1's contribution is.
Maybe they've all donated anonymously - but I doubt it.
Schumi's contribution will put some pressure on the others in F1.
Achim
Fcuk U wrote:
Schumi won't get any. He lives in Switzerland and pays very little taxe at all
for all I know :)
Achim
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> David G Fisher wrote: > >> http://sports.espn.go.com/espn/news/story?id=1959051 >> >> Wow. >> >> > Just think of the tax relief! Wow!!I second that.
JensSchumi
On Fri, 07 Jan 2005 06:38:17 +0100, Joachim Trensz <[email hidden]> wrote:
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>Maybe they've all donated anonymously - but I doubt it.
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>Schumi's contribution will put some pressure on the others in F1.
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>Achim
No need to worry.
The major charity organisations have direct control up to the receivers.
It's not like other countries where you have to deliver to the doorstep and then
go home w/o possibility of control.
JensSchumi
PS: corruption is also present here but works different.
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> > Good job Mitch, not that it'll help though imo; with the widespread >corruption in that part of the world, I'd be surprised if a lot of the aid, >especially $, ever gets to where its needed. That, and the various ethnic >groups, tribes, etc use the donated food, etc. as a weapon too, ala Somalia. > > But hopefully I'll be wrong <g> > >David G Fisher wrote:
> It would be impossible for the world's most famous sports star to make an
> anonymous 10 million dollar donation.
>
>
Fanboy alert!
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Most famous sports star pfffttt, 95% of the world has never heard of him.
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> > "Biz" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > news:Y6pDd.1429$[email hidden]... > > > > "Joachim Trensz" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > > news:[email hidden]... > > > Uwe Sch�rkamp wrote: > > > ... > > > > Maybe they prefer *not* to talk about it in public? > > > > > > Talking can help raise more funds as others may feel they're put to > shame > > if > > > they don't donate. I think if someone seriously wants to supportQuoted text (13 lines)
> > or > > > something, he'll donate and then talk about it, to make others follow > his > > example. > > > > > > Achim > > > > I have to think a $10 million anonymous donation would be just as > effective. > > It would be impossible for the world's most famous sports star to make an > anonymous 10 million dollar donation. >Jon wrote:
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> Most famous sports star pfffttt, 95% of the world has never heard of him.
Maybe, but if it's true it would only prove Dave's statement wrong if there were
any one sports star known to more than 5% of world's human population :)
Joachim Trensz wrote:
Pele! The fanboy is wrong!!
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> Jon wrote: > .... > >> Most famous sports star pfffttt, 95% of the world has never heard of him. > > > Maybe, but if it's true it would only prove Dave's statement wrong if > there were any one sports star known to more than 5% of world's human > population :) No worries ? I doubt that <g> It's already being reported in some areas.
p.s. yep, corruption is present here, but it's not a systemic, cultural,
accepted way of life as in that part of the world.
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> No need to worry.
> The major charity organisations have direct control up to the receivers.
> It's not like other countries where you have to deliver to the doorstepand then
aid,
> >especially $, ever gets to where its needed. That, and the variousethnic
> >groups, tribes, etc use the donated food, etc. as a weapon too, alaSomalia.
> >
> > But hopefully I'll be wrong <g>
> >
> >
>
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> go home w/o possibility of control. > > JensSchumi > > PS: corruption is also present here but works different. > > On Thu, 6 Jan 2005 16:58:03 -0600, "JP" <[email hidden]> wrote: > > > > > Good job Mitch, not that it'll help though imo; with the widespread > >corruption in that part of the world, I'd be surprised if a lot of theIt never fails, if you have people, you have corruption. Corruption is not
immune to any walk of life.
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> No worries ? I doubt that <g> It's already being reported in someareas.
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> > p.s. yep, corruption is present here, but it's not a systemic, cultural, > accepted way of life as in that part of the world. > > > "JS" <JensSchumi_not@home> wrote in message > news:[email hidden]... > > No need to worry. > > The major charity organisations have direct control up to the receivers. > > It's not like other countries where you have to deliver to the doorstep > and then > > go home w/o possibility of control. > > > > JensSchumi > > > > PS: corruption is also present here but works different. > > > > On Thu, 6 Jan 2005 16:58:03 -0600, "JP" <[email hidden]> wrote: > > > > > > > > Good job Mitch, not that it'll help though imo; with the widespread > > >corruption in that part of the world, I'd be surprised if a lot of the > aid, > > >especially $, ever gets to where its needed. That, and the various > ethnic > > >groups, tribes, etc use the donated food, etc. as a weapon too, ala > Somalia. > > > > > > But hopefully I'll be wrong <g> > > > > > > > > > > No, but institutionalized corruption is. There is a difference ya know.
"Biz" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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> It never fails, if you have people, you have corruption. Corruption isnot
cultural,
receivers.
> > > It's not like other countries where you have to deliver to thedoorstep
the
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> immune to any walk of life. > > "JP" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > news:kpFDd.724$[email hidden]... > > No worries ? I doubt that <g> It's already being reported in some > areas. > > > > p.s. yep, corruption is present here, but it's not a systemic,Quoted text (7 lines)
> > accepted way of life as in that part of the world. > > > > > > "JS" <JensSchumi_not@home> wrote in message > > news:[email hidden]... > > > No need to worry. > > > The major charity organisations have direct control up to theQuoted text (12 lines)
> > and then > > > go home w/o possibility of control. > > > > > > JensSchumi > > > > > > PS: corruption is also present here but works different. > > > > > > On Thu, 6 Jan 2005 16:58:03 -0600, "JP" <[email hidden]> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > Good job Mitch, not that it'll help though imo; with the widespread > > > >corruption in that part of the world, I'd be surprised if a lot ofQuoted text (14 lines)
> > aid, > > > >especially $, ever gets to where its needed. That, and the various > > ethnic > > > >groups, tribes, etc use the donated food, etc. as a weapon too, ala > > Somalia. > > > > > > > > But hopefully I'll be wrong <g> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
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Who???
:)
steve
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> Joachim Trensz wrote: >> Jon wrote: >> .... >> >>> Most famous sports star pfffttt, 95% of the world has never heard of >>> him. >> >> >> Maybe, but if it's true it would only prove Dave's statement wrong if >> there were any one sports star known to more than 5% of world's human >> population :) > > Pele! The fanboy is wrong!!Steve Whitty wrote:
you must be an ermerrakan?
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> "Fcuk U" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > news:7XyDd.216$%[email hidden]... > >>Joachim Trensz wrote: >> >>>Jon wrote: >>>.... >>> >>> >>>>Most famous sports star pfffttt, 95% of the world has never heard of >>>>him. >>> >>> >>>Maybe, but if it's true it would only prove Dave's statement wrong if >>>there were any one sports star known to more than 5% of world's human >>>population :) >> >>Pele! The fanboy is wrong!! > > > Who??? > :) > > steve > >
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Nope, try Aussie:)
steve
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> Steve Whitty wrote: >> "Fcuk U" <[email hidden]> wrote in message >> news:7XyDd.216$%[email hidden]... >> >>>Joachim Trensz wrote: >>> >>>>Jon wrote: >>>>.... >>>> >>>> >>>>>Most famous sports star pfffttt, 95% of the world has never heard of >>>>>him. >>>> >>>> >>>>Maybe, but if it's true it would only prove Dave's statement wrong if >>>>there were any one sports star known to more than 5% of world's human >>>>population :) >>> >>>Pele! The fanboy is wrong!! >> >> >> Who??? >> :) >> >> steve > you must be an ermerrakan? >Gents,
I should have added some more things in my recent statement.
Not sure if you know but I live in that area, i.e. Malaysia.
Corruption is quite an issue here but unlike Mafia-style it concentrates on
stuff like getting an approval here and there, how to avoid puspakom (Tuev,
MOT,...) once the roadtax has expired too long, avoiding expensive (and time
consuming) summons by road-block contributions.
Jens
On Fri, 7 Jan 2005 21:17:17 -0600, "JP" <[email hidden]> wrote:
> No, but institutionalized corruption is. There is a difference ya know.
>
>
