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Re: Stuck in the middle blues

7 posts by 7 people · 09 May 2000 - 11 May 2000 04:29 UTC

don hodgdon 09 May 2000#271475
<[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]... > I am frustrated. I've started getting back into GPL and just can't > seem to keep my front wheels ahead of my rear ones <snip> > I don't left foot brake (too > many years of habit to overcome). Could this be the problem. In fact, > my braking style is to lock em up and release while hitting the corner > and then balancing on the throttle through the turn. BINGO! Learn to left foot brake and then to trailbrake...getting it right is what it's all about. It feels so good when you have your car just on the edge of adhesion, all four tires drifting through the apex, balancing it with throttle and brake, it's the same feeling you get when you smack a home run off a high fastball or catch the first wave of the morning. The same sense of satisfaction as when you launch a long straight drive on the first hole, hell, the way I golf, any hole! You can't hammer on the brakes in these cars, at least I can't. Establish your braking points and stick to them for a while, until you can run consistant laps without spinning off. Get on the brakes EASY, but firmly. A little squeel is ok, a lot of squeel, smoke and the ability to read Goodyear on your front tires under braking is BAD!<g> The biggest improvement I've made to my rig was to ditch the Logitech pedals, but I was fortunate enough to have a set of CH pedals to use. Try the racquetball fix mentioned in a post above, it seems to have worked for a lot of folks here. Stick to it...it's so worth it. -- don "Getting hit by a meteorite is an accident... everything else is driver-error."
Target 12 10 May 2000#271504
> In fact, >my braking style is to lock em up and release while hitting the corner >and then balancing on the throttle through the turn.That's pretty much what I do. I find it hard with my LWFF pedals to not lock up the brakes. Racer X Veteran Sim Racer #4 Corvette C5-R in the GTIC #24 Monte Carlo in the DORL Victory Lane- http://www.geocities.com/MotorCity/Speedway/1423/
The Mighty Puck 10 May 2000 00:11 UTC#271494
I am frustrated. I've started getting back into GPL and just can't seem to keep my front wheels ahead of my rear ones (well, if i try to get even mildly decent laptimes anyway). I read somewhere learning to drive this game is like learning to play the violin. I really like GPL but if it is going to take a couple years of hardcore practice I think I'd rather know how to play the violin :-) The problem is compounded by the fact that every time I play another racing game it doesn't feel right (N3, nfs4) and I go back to GPL. I don't left foot brake (too many years of habit to overcome). Could this be the problem. In fact, my braking style is to lock em up and release while hitting the corner and then balancing on the throttle through the turn. Problem with that is I think I'm probably losing grip when i lift (as opposed to braking). Is this true? I've hit a couple random 1:30.xx's at monza but 1:32 is far more likely. I'm using LWFF wheel and pedals. Any suggestions appreciated. I mostly drive the brab and the lotus. i've tried the ferrari my steering always gets messed up when i use it (go figure, my wheel keeps pointing just a touch left). I found the Honda impossible. Thanks.
Speedy Fast 10 May 2000 02:24 UTC#271519
On 10 May 2000 01:33:17 GMT, [email hidden] (Target 12) wrote: >> In fact, >>my braking style is to lock em up and release while hitting the corner >>and then balancing on the throttle through the turn. >That's pretty much what I do. I find it hard with my LWFF pedals to not lock >up the brakes. Get a racketball ball. Cut a 1/4 of it off. Open up your pedal unit. Put the spring inside the racketball ball and reassemble the unit. Test using Win32 game controllers.
Simon Brown 10 May 2000 02:44 UTC#271509
Well, you will always struggle not to lock brakes with the LWFF pedals. They aren't really up to the job. I bought a Precision Racing Wheel and use the pedals from that with my LWFF. Make sure you drive in socks and not with shoes on. Also there's nothing wrong with 1:30 at Monza. It's more important to be able to lap consistently and without crashing, than to be able to stick in a really quick lap. Try switching to the Ferrari or Eagle, which are more forgiving than the Lotus. And try to get a more rounded experience of the whole game, so learn new tracks, have plenty of races and try all the different cars. Also try the game on-line on Vroc, and you'll see there's plenty of other people lapping 1:30-1:32 at Monza.
Andre Warringa 10 May 2000 08:45 UTC#271397
On Wed, 10 May 2000 02:24:26 GMT, Speedy Fast <[email hidden]> wrote: >Get a racketball ball. Cut a 1/4 of it off. Open up your pedal unit. >Put the spring inside the racketball ball and reassemble the unit. >Test using Win32 game controllers. Hey... I never read this one before, and it sounds like a great idea. Actually I use the ch pedals for GPL, but for more arcade oriented racing games, where precise braking is not so much required as in GPL, I still prefer the LWFF pedals. Shorter range, less tiring for my feet. Andre
Don Scurlock 11 May 2000 04:29 UTC#271251
[email hidden] wrote in <[email hidden]>: >I am frustrated. This is normal, it's a good sign. >I don't left foot brake (too many years of habit to overcome). Could >this be the problem. Yes it's a problem. Just start left foot braking and don't stop, it will come. >Problem with that >is I think I'm probably losing grip when i lift (as opposed to >braking). Is this true? Trailing throttle oversteer happens in a BIG way in gpl. I often get in trouble by lifting to much. Use it, it steers the car a LOT. >I mostly drive the brab and the lotus. For easier driving try the Cooper. Any of the other cars are easier than the Lotus or Brabam, they are the hardest. -- Don Scurlock Vancouver,B.C.

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