Re: New controllers announced

Yup -- the pedals aren't the best, but it's a pretty nice wheel overall, IMO. Check out my review: http://irlinsider.adnetweb.com/sims/saitek/ Enjoy! -- JB In article <sOIS4.2906$[email hidden]>, "Simon Brown" <[email hidden]> wrote: > I was just curious, has anyone tried the Saitek R4 force-feedback > wheel/pedals? > > Sent via Deja.com http://www.deja.com/ Before you buy.

Logitech, Saitek and Thrustmaster have all announced a boatload of new controllers at E3. For full details and photos check out The Control Center at www.joy-stick.net. -- Sam Mancuso Visit The Control Center for the latest PC and PlayStation game controller news, reviews, informations and discussion. www.joy-stick.net

I was just curious, has anyone tried the Saitek R4 force-feedback wheel/pedals?

If Logitech would put a freakin' shifter on their wheel, they'd get about 95% of the r.a.s. fanatic sales. Is it that difficult or expensive? Isn't NASCAR the most popular form of racing in the good ol' USA? Do NASCAR drivers use F1 paddles?? Hello....anyone home at Logitech!!!!!! Marc. "Sam Mancuso" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:7FIS4.86143$[email hidden]... > Logitech, Saitek and Thrustmaster have all announced a boatload of new > controllers at E3. For full details and photos check out The ControlCenter

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> at www.joy-stick.net. > > -- > > Sam Mancuso > > Visit The Control Center for the latest PC and PlayStation game controller > news, reviews, informations and discussion. > www.joy-stick.net > > >

On Fri, 12 May 2000 02:31:07 GMT, "Marc Collins" <[email hidden]> wrote: >If Logitech would put a freakin' shifter on their wheel, they'd get about >95% of the r.a.s. fanatic sales. Is it that difficult or expensive? Isn't >NASCAR the most popular form of racing in the good ol' USA? Do NASCAR >drivers use F1 paddles?? I don't understand why you would want a shifter! Using paddles is so much easier. Did it ever occur to you that you are not really racing NASCAR with your 14" monitor?? So bending a few rules is no problem.

I guess people like you are who Logitech listens to. Fortunately there are others (Guillemot, ACTLabs, Saitek, Thrustmaster) who know better. Marc. "Speedy Fast" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]... > On Fri, 12 May 2000 02:31:07 GMT, "Marc Collins" > <[email hidden]> wrote: > > >If Logitech would put a freakin' shifter on their wheel, they'd get about > >95% of the r.a.s. fanatic sales. Is it that difficult or expensive?Isn't

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> >NASCAR the most popular form of racing in the good ol' USA? Do NASCAR > >drivers use F1 paddles?? > > I don't understand why you would want a shifter! Using paddles is so > much easier. Did it ever occur to you that you are not really racing > NASCAR with your 14" monitor?? > So bending a few rules is no problem.

When you are used to a stick shifter, it's just as fast and natural as paddles, and you're lap times are just as good. It's more immersing and fun to drive N3 with a stick. Of course, you could drive it in automatic and just not bother with shifting all together. -- Slot Tweaks & Reviews www.slottweak.com "Speedy Fast" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]... > On Fri, 12 May 2000 02:31:07 GMT, "Marc Collins" > <[email hidden]> wrote: > > >If Logitech would put a freakin' shifter on their wheel, they'd get about > >95% of the r.a.s. fanatic sales. Is it that difficult or expensive? Isn't > >NASCAR the most popular form of racing in the good ol' USA? Do NASCAR > >drivers use F1 paddles?? > > I don't understand why you would want a shifter! Using paddles is so > much easier. Did it ever occur to you that you are not really racing > NASCAR with your 14" monitor?? > So bending a few rules is no problem.

> I was just curious, has anyone tried the Saitek R4 force-feedback > wheel/pedals? I used to own a Saitek R4 Force Feedback wheel. Unfortunately it broke down. My local supplyer couldn't get me a replacement wheel, so I got myself a Microsoft Sidewinder Force Feedback wheel (MSFF). To put it briefly: FF is better on the Saitek, but the pedals are not suitable for demanding games like GPL. If you major interest is Colin McRae rally (CMR), then the Saitek is a better option than the MSFF, because of Saitek's stronger FF. The stick shifter is also an option worth paying for. I completely lost interest of CMR after switching from Saitek to MSFF. Too bad, really, because CMR provided me with considerably amounts of fun. Jon Andersen

Yes it does use the same force feedback unit as the msff. i found that at www.gamesspot.com so blame them if it is wrong. Nathan Wong <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]... > On Fri, 12 May 2000 22:37:52 +0200, "Jon Andersen" <[email hidden]> > wrote: > > >To put it briefly: FF is better on the Saitek, but the pedals are not > >suitable for demanding games like GPL. If you major interest is ColinMcRae > >rally (CMR), then the Saitek is a better option than the MSFF, because of > >Saitek's stronger FF. The stick shifter is also an option worth payingfor. > >I completely lost interest of CMR after switching from Saitek to MSFF.Too

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> >bad, really, because CMR provided me with considerably amounts of fun. > > > I read that the Saitek uses the same FF internals that the MSFF wheel > uses, it just looks different on the outside......can anyone confirm > or deny this? > > -- > Nathan Wong [email hidden] > > Touring Cars World Wide http://www.touringcars.org > Nafe's WWW Garage http://www.nectar.com.au/~alfacors > V8Supercar Pick 10 http://v8sp10.nectar.com.au > Competition

Personaly i agree with slot. the shifter is great to use and provides a realistic sence. However i also like the flexibilty of being able to use paddles as well. The ferrari wheel has both so it is a good choice. Ps i know the act-labs has both but you have to by the shifter. Kieran www.pcracing.com GTX_SlotCar <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:tEZS4.8418$[email hidden]... > When you are used to a stick shifter, it's just as fast and natural as > paddles, and you're lap times are just as good. It's more immersing andfun

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> to drive N3 with a stick. Of course, you could drive it in automatic and > just not bother with shifting all together. > > -- > Slot > > Tweaks & Reviews > www.slottweak.com > > > "Speedy Fast" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > news:[email hidden]... > > On Fri, 12 May 2000 02:31:07 GMT, "Marc Collins" > > <[email hidden]> wrote: > > > > >If Logitech would put a freakin' shifter on their wheel, they'd get

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> > >95% of the r.a.s. fanatic sales. Is it that difficult or expensive? > Isn't > > >NASCAR the most popular form of racing in the good ol' USA? Do NASCAR > > >drivers use F1 paddles?? > > > > I don't understand why you would want a shifter! Using paddles is so > > much easier. Did it ever occur to you that you are not really racing > > NASCAR with your 14" monitor?? > > So bending a few rules is no problem. > >

On Fri, 12 May 2000 22:37:52 +0200, "Jon Andersen" <[email hidden]> wrote:

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>To put it briefly: FF is better on the Saitek, but the pedals are not >suitable for demanding games like GPL. If you major interest is Colin McRae >rally (CMR), then the Saitek is a better option than the MSFF, because of >Saitek's stronger FF. The stick shifter is also an option worth paying for. >I completely lost interest of CMR after switching from Saitek to MSFF. Too >bad, really, because CMR provided me with considerably amounts of fun. >

I read that the Saitek uses the same FF internals that the MSFF wheel uses, it just looks different on the outside......can anyone confirm or deny this? -- Nathan Wong [email hidden] Touring Cars World Wide http://www.touringcars.org Nafe's WWW Garage http://www.nectar.com.au/~alfacors V8Supercar Pick 10 http://v8sp10.nectar.com.au Competition