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Re: Force-feedback in GPL

9 posts by 6 people · 13 May 2000 - 13 May 2000 18:37 UTC

On Sat 13 May 2000 02:31:21pm, Simon Brown wrote: <snip> >Also, just as a footnote, the 1.2 patch for the UK doesn't install >correctly without the 1.1 patch because the 1.2 patch fails to >overwrite some copy-protected files. That's just something to be >aware of if you have trouble applying the 1.2 patch. Are you sure about this? I had a HD crash, had to reinstall everything from scratch, and installed 1.0 off the CD, and then 1.2 from Papy. Skipped 1.1 completely, and everything's fine. -- David. "After all, a mere thousand yards - such a harmless little knoll, really." (Raymond Mays on Shelsley Walsh)
Destroy 13 May 2000#270609
Yes GPL with patches has FF. Check their web site or a GPL fan site, sorry I don't know of any off hand. Also, try Viper Racing, this game has, IMHO, the best FF effect of any racing game to date. Jeppe Kusk wrote: > Is it possible to get force-feedback in GPL? > If so, wich patches do i have to install and were can i get them? > I have the Gouillemot (or whatever) Ferrari whell. > > Jeppe
Jeppe Kusk 13 May 2000 11:29 UTC#270591
Is it possible to get force-feedback in GPL? If so, wich patches do i have to install and were can i get them? I have the Gouillemot (or whatever) Ferrari whell. Jeppe
Simon Brown 13 May 2000 14:31 UTC#270634
First you will need the 1.2 patch (in theory you shouldn't need the 1.1 patch) for your country from www.papy.com, then you need to go into your main gpl folder ( usually c:\sierra\gpl ) and there will be a file there called "core.ini.sample" which needs renaming to just "core.ini". The easiest way to do this is to open a DOS prompt and use the DOS command "rename". Another way to rename the file is to select it, then wait a few seconds, and then left click once on the name of the file (just under the icon) and then windows will let you edit it. Or you can right click on the file and see if "rename" is in the pop-down list. Next double-click on the file to edit it ( if windows asks you what to edit it with then choose Notepad from the list ) and scroll down and change the value "allow_force_feedback = 0", to 1. If it doesn't work then you've failed to rename the file properly. You would be amazed how many people get this bit wrong. Also, just as a footnote, the 1.2 patch for the UK doesn't install correctly without the 1.1 patch because the 1.2 patch fails to overwrite some copy-protected files. That's just something to be aware of if you have trouble applying the 1.2 patch.
Michael E. Carver 13 May 2000 14:43 UTC#270616
On Sat, 13 May 2000 09:01:53 -0500 Destroy <[email hidden]> wrote: % Yes GPL with patches has FF. Check their web site or a GPL fan site, % sorry I don't know of any off hand. Also, try Viper Racing, this game % has, IMHO, the best FF effect of any racing game to date. Next to GPL maybe <G> For more detail check out Alison Hine's (aka Eagle Woman) Force Feedback page for GPL: http://simracing.com/alison/gpl/force.htm You will need the 1.2 patch for GPL http://www.papy.com/gpl/download.html Then you will need to create or edit your core.ini file (make sure the file name is core.ini -- double check via DOS dir -- run the file command and then change to your GPL directory and issue the command "dir core.*"). Add the following line under the heading "[ Joy ]" allow_force_feedback = 1 the following is from the 1.1 readme.txt file: 9. FORCE FEEDBACK SUPPORT ---------------------------- It is possible to enable force-feedback steering by adding the following lines to core.ini: [ Joy ] allow_force_feedback = 1 ; Additionally, there are (of course) some things to fiddle around with. Three other lines can be added--these are the default values used if these lines are missing: force_feedback_latency = 0.085 ; in seconds force_feedback_damping = 40.0 ; magic number max_steering_torque = 225.0 ; in Newton-inches (???!!@#) force_feedback_latency can be used to try to reduce the lag in force buildup. If you swerve back and forth at speed, you might notice that the force does not seem to match what the car is doing--it is a little out of phase. The default value seems to work best with the Microsoft wheel, other wheels may require some tweaking. Generally, the lowest number that works for you is probably best. Try 0.0, then move it up if the force seems out of phase. If you set it too high, you will begin to get unwanted spikes in the force levels. force_feedback_damping can be used to counteract the unwanted spikes. Guidelines for this number? Try anything from 0.0 to several hundred, maybe, but this also causes jumpiness if raised to excess. max_steering_torque is the level of torque actually computed in the game that will give the maximum force level on the device. Setting this to a higher number will reduce the force you feel. Setting this lower will increase the forces you feel, but will tend to clamp them, so you will not feel the car loading up on a hill, etc. Sorry about the bogus units (although they are at least a unit of torque). -- **************************** Michael E. Carver ************************* Upside out, or inside down...False alarm the only game in town. [email hidden] http://www.teleport.com/~mcarver =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=<[ /./. [- < ]>=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=
Joe Marques 13 May 2000 14:48 UTC#270618
www.papy.com has version 1.2. Read the readme for changing the ini file in order to turn on FF. Joe Destroy <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:391d5e77$0$[email hidden]...
Quoted text (12 lines)> Yes GPL with patches has FF. Check their web site or a GPL fan site, > sorry I don't know of any off hand. Also, try Viper Racing, this game > has, IMHO, the best FF effect of any racing game to date. > > Jeppe Kusk wrote: > > > Is it possible to get force-feedback in GPL? > > If so, wich patches do i have to install and were can i get them? > > I have the Gouillemot (or whatever) Ferrari whell. > > > > Jeppe >
Jeppe Kusk 13 May 2000 15:59 UTC#270537
Quoted text (8 lines)> First you will need the 1.2 patch (in theory you shouldn't need the 1.1 > patch) for your country from www.papy.com, then you need to go into your > main gpl folder ( usually c:\sierra\gpl ) and there will be a file there > called "core.ini.sample" which needs renaming to just "core.ini". The > easiest way to do this is to open a DOS prompt and use the DOS command > "rename". Another way to rename the file is to select it, then wait a few > seconds, and then left click once on the name of the file (just under the > icon) and then windows will let you edit it. Or you can right click on
the > file and see if "rename" is in the pop-down list. > Next double-click on the file to edit it ( if windows asks you what toedit > it with then choose Notepad from the list ) and scroll down and change the > value "allow_force_feedback = 0", to 1. If it doesn't work then you've > failed to rename the file properly. You would be amazed how many peopleget > this bit wrong. > > Also, just as a footnote, the 1.2 patch for the UK doesn't installcorrectly > without the 1.1 patch because the 1.2 patch fails to overwrite some > copy-protected files. That's just something to be aware of if you have > trouble applying the 1.2 patch. Thank you :-) I'll try it Jeppe
Simon Brown 13 May 2000 18:37 UTC#270558
Well, I dunno, maybe it only happens to me :) I re-installed GPL last week, ran the UK 1.2 patch and it stopped on 80% saying it couldn't overwrite some files. I checked the files that the patch was trying to replace and they were write-protected ( i.e. they had read-only ticked ). And that was a completely fresh GPL install too, not an overwrite. It's a mystery...anyway installing 1.1 first fixed the problem.

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