How to defend in Arcade view in GPL?

I have a TNT 2 card, because i use my computer to other games than GPL. Thats why i have to use the arcade view to get 36fps all the time, and after a few laps i like it better than in-car view. I feel i can control my drift better. And i have the data on how warm my tires are, making it easier to know when to push. Anyway, is there a way of defend your position without your mirrors? Why didn't Papyrus made a "backward view" like any new sims has it? I just installed the game yesterday again, since i had nothing to do. I had not driven it much before, because i thought it was way to difficoult. But today i got my first lap under 1:32 on Monza in the Lotus. The setups actually do much more than you think. Enyway, is a 1:31:7 a good lap after 2 days? Jeppe

There's no solution to your problem, apart from getting your PC hardware good enough to be able to run at 36 fps with the in-car view. Make sure you try varying the detail slidey bar as this makes a HUGE difference to the frame rate. It's more realistic if you play from the in-car view, and also fairer to everyone else. Maybe you could get a V5.

On Tue, 16 May 2000 04:01:37 GMT, "David G Fisher" <[email hidden]> wrote: >Is shift-r realistic? No. -- Greger

On Tue 16 May 2000 05:01:37am, David G Fisher wrote:

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> >"David Buttery" <[email hidden]> wrote >in message news:[email hidden]... >> On Mon 15 May 2000 08:00:49pm, Jeppe Kusk wrote: >> >Why didn't Papyrus made a "backward view" like any new sims has >> >it? >> >> 'Cause it ain't realistic! > >Is shift-r realistic?

You can't use Shift-R in the higher modes in any case. -- David. "After all, a mere thousand yards - such a harmless little knoll, really." (Raymond Mays on Shelsley Walsh)

On Mon 15 May 2000 08:00:49pm, Jeppe Kusk wrote: >I have a TNT 2 card, because i use my computer to other games than >GPL. Thats why i have to use the arcade view to get 36fps all the >time, and after a few laps i like it better than in-car view. I feel >i can control my drift better. And i have the data on how warm my >tires are, making it easier to know when to push. Anyway, is there a >way of defend your position without your mirrors? Personally, I don't like arcade view. Yes, it is easier for some people (not me), but it's a little unfair on your competitors. THe mirror thing could be thought of as your punishment... :-) >Why didn't Papyrus made a "backward view" like any new sims has it? 'Cause it ain't realistic! >I just installed the game yesterday again, since i had nothing to >do. I had not driven it much before, because i thought it was way to >difficoult. But today i got my first lap under 1:32 on Monza in the >Lotus. The setups actually do much more than you think. Enyway, is a >1:31:7 a good lap after 2 days? IIRC, I'd done about 1:32 after two days, so your time sound pretty good. Keep at it. -- David. "After all, a mere thousand yards - such a harmless little knoll, really." (Raymond Mays on Shelsley Walsh)

"David Buttery" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]... > On Mon 15 May 2000 08:00:49pm, Jeppe Kusk wrote: > >Why didn't Papyrus made a "backward view" like any new sims has it? > > 'Cause it ain't realistic! Is shift-r realistic? David G Fisher

In article <8fphid$2bkb$[email hidden]>, Jeppe Kusk <[email hidden]> wrote: >I have a TNT 2 card, because i use my computer to other games than GPL. >Thats why i have to use the arcade view to get 36fps all the time, and after >a few laps i like it better than in-car view. I feel i can control my drift >better. And i have the data on how warm my tires are, making it easier to >know when to push. Anyway, is there a way of defend your position without >your mirrors? Where do you get that tire data? The two temperatures displayed are the oil and water temperature and/or pressure :-) Heh actually I can't remember what data is shown in the arcade view right now, but I'm sure the tire temperatures weren't there. -Juha -- //[email hidden]

> >Why didn't Papyrus made a "backward view" like any new sims has it? > 'Cause it ain't realistic! Is shift-r realistic? David G Fisher

No. -- Greger

> >I have a TNT 2 card, because i use my computer to other games than GPL. > >Thats why i have to use the arcade view to get 36fps all the time, andafter > >a few laps i like it better than in-car view. I feel i can control mydrift

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> >better. And i have the data on how warm my tires are, making it easier to > >know when to push. Anyway, is there a way of defend your position without > >your mirrors? > > Where do you get that tire data? The two temperatures displayed are > the oil and water temperature and/or pressure :-) Heh actually I can't > remember what data is shown in the arcade view right now, but I'm sure > the tire temperatures weren't there.

Correct, i was wrong. I thought the OT was Outer Tire Temperature, but it is as you point out Oil Temperature. The other things is Oil Pressure and Fuel Pressure. Jeppe

I use arcade view on-line only when a particular track has a serious degredation of my frame rate. (like Kyalami, Osterreichring, etc.) I would prefer the in-car, but when it's the difference between 16 FPS and 24 FPS, I have to switch. I know I need desparately to upgrade my hardware and do plan to do so, but the one thing that has a worse effect on my driving isn't FPS, but in fact, the amount of detail I've got turned on (or the lack of it). I can turn everything off on the options page and get a tolerable framerate at problem tracks while in-car, but I can't drive the bloody car because I've lost all useful visual references with the Flintstone graphics. Translating from driving a real race car to the sim where there is such a dearth of tactile input as to what the car is doing makes me even more reliant on the visual input I am receiving. Taking away most of the visual cues and the tactile feedback just makes it a dumb, frustrating exercise. As to on-line in arcade mode, I don't dice very hard because I'm not good enough yet, frankly, so I just listen for cars behind me and keep a tight line exitting corners, ease off on the acceleration, and thumb the wheel button that raises the driver's right hand whenever I hear someone behind me. <g> Regards, Brett C. Cammack That's Racing! Motorsports Pompano Beach, FL

David G Fisher <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:BK3U4.193379$[email hidden]... > > > Is shift-r realistic? > > David G Fisher >No, but then again, we ought to be able to drop into the pits to fix things like punctures, and we can't.

"Greger Huttu" and DGF wrote: > >Is shift-r realistic? > > No. In a sence that virtual reality has completely different features that real-life will never give to us, I say that Shift-R is realistic. We need to stop thinking "if it doesn't happen in real-life it's not realistic". Some options that we are able to get while racing virtual reality simulations are incredibly benefitial and be sure that real-life racecar drivers would love to see such things for them. -- -- Fran�ois M�nard <ymenard> -- May the Downforce be with you... -- http://www.WeRace.net -- People think it must be fun to be a super genius, but they don't realise how hard it is to put up with all the idiots in the world.