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GPL Question

14 posts by 9 people · 16 May 2000 - 24 May 2000 12:41 UTC

(unknown) 16 May 2000#269811
This may sound like a ridiculous question (or maybe not): I�m thinking about buying GPL but I�m not too excited about driving �Legend� cars. Is it possible to have more modern cars? Maybe as an add-on or the like? TIA Sent via Deja.com http://www.deja.com/ Before you buy.
It is a ridiculous question. It would defeat the whole point of the sim. Steve [email hidden] wrote in message <8fsb64$fr$[email hidden]>...
Quoted text (11 lines)>This may sound like a ridiculous question (or maybe not): > >I�m thinking about buying GPL but I�m not too excited about >driving �Legend� cars. Is it possible to have more modern cars? Maybe >as an add-on or the like? > >TIA > > >Sent via Deja.com http://www.deja.com/ >Before you buy.
Colin 16 May 2000#269821
Give it a try. You might just find you like it =) You can have the '68 or '69 cars available as carsets if the '67 cars aren't modern enough for you =) Cheers, ...Colin <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:8fsb64$fr$[email hidden]...
Quoted text (11 lines)> This may sound like a ridiculous question (or maybe not): > > I'm thinking about buying GPL but I'm not too excited about > driving 'Legend' cars. Is it possible to have more modern cars? Maybe > as an add-on or the like? > > TIA > > > Sent via Deja.com http://www.deja.com/ > Before you buy.
(unknown) 17 May 2000#269569
> GPL really isn't about '67 cars, it's about an unequalled (IMO)driving experience on the PC. That's all that matters to me. Like you, ultimately it's the driving experience I'm looking for. I went ahead and ordered it (still waiting for GP3). Thanks for the info. Sent via Deja.com http://www.deja.com/ Before you buy.
Andrew MacPherson 17 May 2000 19:04 UTC#269560
> I�m thinking about buying GPL but I�m not too > excited about driving �Legend� cars. Neither am I... but I've had over two years of intense racing pleasure out of these cars I have no interest in :-) GPL really isn't about '67 cars, it's about an unequalled (IMO) driving experience on the PC. That's all that matters to me. Andrew McP
(unknown) 18 May 2000#269338
A good and thoughtful response -- I agree. After procrastinating for a good while, I got this sim about three months back, and although the AI and I are not yet "one," we're finally finding a few ways to communicate. The cars will challange you -- they were powerful, under-tired and under chassied... The tracks were just plain intimidating -- blind, off camber, decreasing radius turns lurk everywhere, but when you get it right (even if not for a whole lap) you'll have a hard time not running out to tell the neighbors... The only advice I have, is a piece of advice I read here... Find a track and a car that you like (for me it's the Eagle and Spa), study them like you were geting ready to take the Bar, and don't change either of them until you can drive the course in your sleep; really. I still can't beat Clark (maybe in another year, I'll be able to stay in sight -- that would be refreshing), but I have learned how to spin the car without bending it and still lap under 3:50... <G> I liked all the N1, N2, N3 series, and I still spend an embarrassing amnount of time trying to outwit Rusty and Mark, but GPL is the auto- racing sim others will be easured against for years to come (other than in sales, of course -- pity). I sure hope the N4 rumor about using the GPL physics engine are true... Sgt Sent via Deja.com http://www.deja.com/ Before you buy.
(unknown) 18 May 2000#269353
> Why not? Let's go through some possible reasons: > > 1) You don't know the drivers. No > 2) The cars are too slow. Nope - they can top 200mph at some tracks, > and the *average* at Spa is over 150mph. Yes - but looks as if I was wrong > 3) You don't like the sounds. This one is *really* unlikely - they're > wonderful - and in any case, you can change them. No > 4) They're hard to drive. Definitely No - I'm looking for the most realistic driving experience. ..... I'm glad I posted my original message. Trying to get a real reaction from people � I guess I succeeded. Thanks to all who responded. I judged the book by its cover (Like most people who haven�t given the game a fair chance). Cannot wait to play it. Sent via Deja.com http://www.deja.com/ Before you buy.
Stu C 18 May 2000#269419
I have only recently added this to my collection of racing games, have to say that it is the brilliant racing sim for "feel", tracks..sounds and fun ! Very, very hard..so if you are'nt into learning how to drive, you will be wasting your time. I'm way off the pace ..but everytime i fire it up , the hook goes in deeper.. Been a bloody long time since a game has done that. "David Buttery" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]...
Quoted text (50 lines)> On Tue 16 May 2000 09:30:59pm, wrote: > > >This may sound like a ridiculous question (or maybe not): > > > >I'm thinking about buying GPL but I'm not too excited about > >driving 'Legend' cars. > > Why not? Let's go through some possible reasons: > > 1) You don't know the drivers. I doubt that one - Jim Clark, Graham > Hill, Dan Gurney, Chris Amon, John Surtees (boo!). Sounds good to me - > and in any case, there are ways to change the names. > > 2) The cars are too slow. Nope - they can top 200mph at some tracks, > and the *average* at Spa is over 150mph. > > 3) You don't like the sounds. This one is *really* unlikely - they're > wonderful - and in any case, you can change them. > > 4) They're hard to drive. Yes, they are. That's the whole point - this > is a simulation, not an arcade game. They take ages to learn - and > you'll probably never master them - but the feeling of achievement when > you get a good time is incredible. > > 5) The AI cars are too fast. You can change that with an addon. > > 6) There's no telemetry. You can get an addon for this, too. > > 7) The tracks are unfamiliar. Well, OK, but it's really worth learning > them - they're *far* better than modern F1 circuits. And yes, there are > addon tracks available. > > 8) It's badly supported by the makers. Well, yes - it sold badly, > mainly because of the absence of an AI strength slider and the steep > learning curve. But there are vast numbers of excellent unofficial > addons, most of them free. And your most valuable resource - this NG! > > And so it goes on. If you need convincing of this sim's brilliance, > just read here a while. And, when (not if, when) you're hooked, have a > look here for a huge heap of addons: > > http://www.theuspits.com > > In any case, it's on budget. And if you get it from EB, you can always > take it back (but you won't - you won't!). > -- > David. > "After all, a mere thousand yards - such a harmless little knoll, > really." > (Raymond Mays on Shelsley Walsh)
On Tue 16 May 2000 09:30:59pm, wrote: >This may sound like a ridiculous question (or maybe not): > >I�m thinking about buying GPL but I�m not too excited about >driving �Legend� cars. Why not? Let's go through some possible reasons: 1) You don't know the drivers. I doubt that one - Jim Clark, Graham Hill, Dan Gurney, Chris Amon, John Surtees (boo!). Sounds good to me - and in any case, there are ways to change the names. 2) The cars are too slow. Nope - they can top 200mph at some tracks, and the *average* at Spa is over 150mph. 3) You don't like the sounds. This one is *really* unlikely - they're wonderful - and in any case, you can change them. 4) They're hard to drive. Yes, they are. That's the whole point - this is a simulation, not an arcade game. They take ages to learn - and you'll probably never master them - but the feeling of achievement when you get a good time is incredible. 5) The AI cars are too fast. You can change that with an addon. 6) There's no telemetry. You can get an addon for this, too. 7) The tracks are unfamiliar. Well, OK, but it's really worth learning them - they're *far* better than modern F1 circuits. And yes, there are addon tracks available. 8) It's badly supported by the makers. Well, yes - it sold badly, mainly because of the absence of an AI strength slider and the steep learning curve. But there are vast numbers of excellent unofficial addons, most of them free. And your most valuable resource - this NG! And so it goes on. If you need convincing of this sim's brilliance, just read here a while. And, when (not if, when) you're hooked, have a look here for a huge heap of addons: http://www.theuspits.com In any case, it's on budget. And if you get it from EB, you can always take it back (but you won't - you won't!). -- David. "After all, a mere thousand yards - such a harmless little knoll, really." (Raymond Mays on Shelsley Walsh)
Andrew MacPherson 18 May 2000 07:01 UTC#269388
> Like you, ultimately it's the driving experience I'm looking for I hope you find it. Just be prepared to struggle a bit :-) Andrew McP... struggling for two years against the constraints of utter mediocrity!
Colin Harris 18 May 2000 12:47 UTC#269422
you may be way off the pace, Stu, but you're getting faster, that's for damn sure!!!! -- Colin Harris ColinHarris in N3/NL http://members.chello.se/clone/index.htm ICQ 25485061 Stu C <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:8g0kcg$fao$[email hidden]... > I have only recently added this to my collection of racing games, have to > say that it is the brilliant racing sim for "feel", tracks..sounds and fun ! > > Very, very hard..so if you are'nt into learning how to drive, you will be > wasting your time. I'm way off the pace ..but everytime i fire it up , the > hook goes in deeper.. > > Been a bloody long time since a game has done that.
Bruce Kennewell 19 May 2000 12:37 UTC#269191
They were neither under-tyred nor under-chassised (!).......they just WERE. You're rating them with the benefit of 30+ years of development. Rate them from what was in existence at the time. -- Regards, Bruce Kennewell, Canberra, Australia. --------------------------- <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:8g0u7e$5eq$[email hidden]... > A good and thoughtful response -- I agree. > > After procrastinating for a good while, I got this sim about three > months back, and although the AI and I are not yet "one," we're finally > finding a few ways to communicate. > > The cars will challange you -- they were powerful, under-tired and > under chassied... > > The tracks were just plain intimidating -- blind, off camber, > decreasing radius turns lurk everywhere, but when you get it right > (even if not for a whole lap) you'll have a hard time not running out > to tell the neighbors... > > The only advice I have, is a piece of advice I read here... Find a > track and a car that you like (for me it's the Eagle and Spa), study > them like you were geting ready to take the Bar, and don't change > either of them until you can drive the course in your sleep; really. I > still can't beat Clark (maybe in another year, I'll be able to stay in > sight -- that would be refreshing), but I have learned how to spin the > car without bending it and still lap under 3:50... <G> > > I liked all the N1, N2, N3 series, and I still spend an embarrassing > amnount of time trying to outwit Rusty and Mark, but GPL is the auto- > racing sim others will be easured against for years to come (other than > in sales, of course -- pity). I sure hope the N4 rumor about using the > GPL physics engine are true... > > Sgt > > > Sent via Deja.com http://www.deja.com/ > Before you buy.
(unknown) 23 May 2000#268623
In article <[email hidden]>, "Bruce Kennewell" <[email hidden]> wrote: > They were neither under-tyred nor under-chassised (!).......they justWERE. > > You're rating them with the benefit of 30+ years of development. Yes of course -- didn't mean to offend your sensitivities. They were, of course, the top of the heap thirty years ago... Regards, Sgt Sent via Deja.com http://www.deja.com/ Before you buy.
Bruce Kennewell 24 May 2000 12:41 UTC#268289
Oh...you weren't offending my sensibilities....or anything else :-) I simply wished to indicate that we are all very wise with hindsight. -- Regards, Bruce Kennewell, Canberra, Australia. --------------------------- <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:8gdui1$cja$[email hidden]... > In article <[email hidden]>, > "Bruce Kennewell" <[email hidden]> wrote: > > They were neither under-tyred nor under-chassised (!).......they just > WERE. > > > > You're rating them with the benefit of 30+ years of development. > > Yes of course -- didn't mean to offend your sensitivities. They were, > of course, the top of the heap thirty years ago... > > Regards, Sgt > > > Sent via Deja.com http://www.deja.com/ > Before you buy.

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