OT: F1 race this weekend - Nurburgring!

For those who don't know or forgot :) , this weekend the F1 season races at Nurburgring. I am a recent (this season) fan of F1 and have been reading up big-time on "The 'Ring". I can't WAIT to see this track raced by F1 cars. I knew this track is used by car companies (like Porsche and Ferrari) to test their cars, but have read that this track is VERY tricky and dangerous. I've seen some pics on the WWW of some of the "famous" corners and it looks quite challenging, to put it mildly. Anyway, enough of my ranting... Gentlemen, start your engines! (or is that for NASCAR?) Ciao! - Tom N. ============================================================================== "Ferrari is the epitome of mechanical beauty and Ferraris are acquired by men who wish to turn their dreams into reality and inject into their lives a long period of youthful passion. I guess this is why there is Ferrari and then there is everything else." - Enzo Ferrari, on the Ferrari mystique (Translated from Italian) ==============================================================================

Thomas C Norwood <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:8g2fie$a2m$[email hidden]...

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> For those who don't know or forgot :) , this weekend the F1 season races > at Nurburgring. I am a recent (this season) fan of F1 and have been > reading up big-time on "The 'Ring". I can't WAIT to see this track raced > by F1 cars. I knew this track is used by car companies (like Porsche and > Ferrari) to test their cars, but have read that this track is VERY tricky > and dangerous. I've seen some pics on the WWW of some of the "famous" > corners and it looks quite challenging, to put it mildly.

If you're expecting the old Nordschliefe then you're in for a disappointment. The current "Ring" that F1 runs is not the 14 mile one of old.

The track they use now, is a about 3 long straights with a couple of chicanes and a small tight section near the grandstands..thats about it .... dave henrie Gault wrote:

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> > Thomas C Norwood <[email hidden]> wrote in message > news:8g2fie$a2m$[email hidden]... > > For those who don't know or forgot :) , this weekend the F1 season races > > at Nurburgring. I am a recent (this season) fan of F1 and have been > > reading up big-time on "The 'Ring". I can't WAIT to see this track raced > > by F1 cars. I knew this track is used by car companies (like Porsche and > > Ferrari) to test their cars, but have read that this track is VERY tricky > > and dangerous. I've seen some pics on the WWW of some of the "famous" > > corners and it looks quite challenging, to put it mildly. > > If you're expecting the old Nordschliefe then you're in for a > disappointment. The current "Ring" that F1 runs is not the 14 mile one of > old.

Besides that them poor bastards should have a SHIT weather, I go to race with trucks every year at nurburg in the middle of JULY and we had temperatures of 10�C on our first morning warm up....Luckily for them the 225.000 fans coming too see the races are too pissed to notice..... Thomas C Norwood <[email hidden]> a �crit dans le message : 8g2fie$a2m$[email hidden]...

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> For those who don't know or forgot :) , this weekend the F1 season races > at Nurburgring. I am a recent (this season) fan of F1 and have been > reading up big-time on "The 'Ring". I can't WAIT to see this track raced > by F1 cars. I knew this track is used by car companies (like Porsche and > Ferrari) to test their cars, but have read that this track is VERY tricky > and dangerous. I've seen some pics on the WWW of some of the "famous" > corners and it looks quite challenging, to put it mildly. > > Anyway, enough of my ranting... > > Gentlemen, start your engines! (or is that for NASCAR?) > > Ciao! > > - Tom N. > >

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> > "Ferrari is the epitome of mechanical beauty and Ferraris are acquired by > men who wish to turn their dreams into reality and inject into their > lives a long period of youthful passion. I guess this is why there is > Ferrari and then there is everything else." > > - Enzo Ferrari, on the Ferrari mystique (Translated from Italian) > >

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He he, the Ring you're referring to (Nordschleife) is not the track the current F1 uses... Get GPL to test the real Ring yourself... Andre On 19 May 2000 04:22:38 GMT, [email hidden] (Thomas C Norwood) wrote:

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>For those who don't know or forgot :) , this weekend the F1 season races >at Nurburgring. I am a recent (this season) fan of F1 and have been >reading up big-time on "The 'Ring". I can't WAIT to see this track raced >by F1 cars. I knew this track is used by car companies (like Porsche and >Ferrari) to test their cars, but have read that this track is VERY tricky >and dangerous. I've seen some pics on the WWW of some of the "famous" >corners and it looks quite challenging, to put it mildly. > >Anyway, enough of my ranting... > >Gentlemen, start your engines! (or is that for NASCAR?) > >Ciao! > > - Tom N. > >============================================================================== > >"Ferrari is the epitome of mechanical beauty and Ferraris are acquired by > men who wish to turn their dreams into reality and inject into their > lives a long period of youthful passion. I guess this is why there is > Ferrari and then there is everything else." > > - Enzo Ferrari, on the Ferrari mystique (Translated from Italian) > >============================================================================== >

1976 if I remember correctly, the year in which Lauda had his accident on the Ring. Andre On Fri, 19 May 2000 17:16:43 +1000, "Bruce Kennewell" <[email hidden]> wrote:

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>Ummmm, sorry to give you the bad news, Tom, but the current 'Ring is NOT >that used back in the olden days. >The last F1 race on the Nordschliefe was in the mid 1970's. > >-- >Regards, >Bruce Kennewell, >Canberra, Australia. >---------------------------

On Fri, 19 May 2000 06:08:29 -0700, Laurens de Jong <snip> Tell me about it :)) Andre

Anecdotary (nothing like starting a post with a word you just made up), a friend called me last Sunday to ask if I'd come to the 'Ring with her this weekend. I said I really wasn't sure why, but that I had mentally crossed off all May weekends for Ring visits. A classic case of differently aligned interests in geographically closely related tracks. Although I follow F1 casually, I had no idea the GP was this weekend. As for my friend, where-ever in the world F1 races is _the_ place to be, regardless of any real race tracks being in the vicinity. Needless to say, I declined to go. I don't see the point of travelling to the Ring on a day it's closed. My response was greeted by cold silence. Ohh, the non-understanding... -Laurens de Jong, The Netherlands. P.S. Oh, this was the same Volvo-driving friend I mentioned earlier. * Sent from RemarQ http://www.remarq.com The Internet's Discussion Network * The fastest and easiest way to search and participate in Usenet - Free!

On Fri, 19 May 2000 06:08:29 -0700, Laurens de Jong <[email hidden]> wrote: <snip> >Needless to say, I declined to go. I don't see the point of >travelling to the Ring on a day it's closed. Tell me about it :)) Andre

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>-Laurens de Jong, The Netherlands. > >P.S. Oh, this was the same Volvo-driving friend I mentioned >earlier. > >* Sent from RemarQ http://www.remarq.com The Internet's Discussion Network * >The fastest and easiest way to search and participate in Usenet - Free! >

Laurens de Jong wrote: > > Needless to say, I declined to go. I don't see the point of > travelling to the Ring on a day it's closed. My response was > greeted by cold silence. Ohh, the non-understanding... Have you checked out if it's open ? Lots of times when there's action on the GP circuit, the old section is open to the public.... Beers and cheers (uncle) Goy "Team Mirage" http://www.teammirage.com/ "The Pits" http://www.theuspits.com/ * Spam is for losers who can't get business any other way * "Spamkiller" http://www.spamkiller.com

Nope, you're thinking of Hockenheim, where the German Grand Prix is held. This is the European GP. Of course, he's still not going to see the track he's wants to......... Dave Henrie <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]... > The track they use now, is a about 3 long straights with a couple > of chicanes and a small tight section near the grandstands..thats about > it .... > dave henrie

Ummmm, sorry to give you the bad news, Tom, but the current 'Ring is NOT that used back in the olden days. The last F1 race on the Nordschliefe was in the mid 1970's. -- Regards, Bruce Kennewell, Canberra, Australia. --------------------------- Thomas C Norwood <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:8g2fie$a2m$[email hidden]... > For those who don't know or forgot :) , this weekend the F1 season races > at Nurburgring. I am a recent (this season) fan of F1 and have been > reading up big-time on "The 'Ring". I can't WAIT to see this track raced > by F1 cars. I knew this track is used by car companies (like Porsche and > Ferrari) to test their cars, but have read that this track is VERY tricky > and dangerous. I've seen some pics on the WWW of some of the "famous" > corners and it looks quite challenging, to put it mildly. > > Anyway, enough of my ranting... > > Gentlemen, start your engines! (or is that for NASCAR?) > > Ciao! > > - Tom N. > > ============================================================================ == > > "Ferrari is the epitome of mechanical beauty and Ferraris are acquired by > men who wish to turn their dreams into reality and inject into their > lives a long period of youthful passion. I guess this is why there is > Ferrari and then there is everything else." > > - Enzo Ferrari, on the Ferrari mystique (Translated from Italian) > > ============================================================================ == >

I think they tend to use hatzenbach as a caravan park when F1 comes to visit! -- Cheers, Robin Lord - Trance DJ & Sim Racer. http://www.oppositelock.co.uk N�rburgring and Grand Prix Legends Goy Larsen <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]... | Laurens de Jong wrote: | > | > Needless to say, I declined to go. I don't see the point of | > travelling to the Ring on a day it's closed. My response was | > greeted by cold silence. Ohh, the non-understanding... | | Have you checked out if it's open ? | | Lots of times when there's action on the GP circuit, the old section is | open to the public.... | | | Beers and cheers | (uncle) Goy | | "Team Mirage" http://www.teammirage.com/ | "The Pits" http://www.theuspits.com/ | | * Spam is for losers who can't get business any other way * | "Spamkiller" http://www.spamkiller.com

DOH! goahead y'all line up and slap some sense into me... thanks for the correction Rick. dave henrie Rick Baumhauer wrote:

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> > Nope, you're thinking of Hockenheim, where the German Grand Prix is held. > This is the European GP. Of course, he's still not going to see the track > he's wants to......... > > Dave Henrie <[email hidden]> wrote in message > news:[email hidden]... > > The track they use now, is a about 3 long straights with a couple > > of chicanes and a small tight section near the grandstands..thats about > > it .... > > dave henrie

Goy Larsen: > Have you checked out if it's open ? Yes, I have; it wasn't. > Lots of times when there's action on the GP circuit, the old section is > open to the public.... I suspect you were suggesting I drive the Nordschleife during the GP. I hadn't thought of that. It would have been tempting! Guaranteed to be really quiet; unlike the rest of the day when mostly drunk vandals populate the track, and I'd conveniently miss watching the race. But, unfortunately, it's closed. -Laurens de Jong, The Netherlands.

YTou are thinking of the old track......... Sudesh Thomas C Norwood wrote:

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> > For those who don't know or forgot :) , this weekend the F1 season races > at Nurburgring. I am a recent (this season) fan of F1 and have been > reading up big-time on "The 'Ring". I can't WAIT to see this track raced > by F1 cars. I knew this track is used by car companies (like Porsche and > Ferrari) to test their cars, but have read that this track is VERY tricky > and dangerous. I've seen some pics on the WWW of some of the "famous" > corners and it looks quite challenging, to put it mildly. > > Anyway, enough of my ranting... > > Gentlemen, start your engines! (or is that for NASCAR?) > > Ciao! > > - Tom N. > > ============================================================================== > > "Ferrari is the epitome of mechanical beauty and Ferraris are acquired by > men who wish to turn their dreams into reality and inject into their > lives a long period of youthful passion. I guess this is why there is > Ferrari and then there is everything else." > > - Enzo Ferrari, on the Ferrari mystique (Translated from Italian) > > ==============================================================================

[email hidden] (Andre Warringa) wrote: > He he, the Ring you're referring to (Nordschleife) is not the track > the current F1 uses... > > Get GPL to test the real Ring yourself... I heard rumors about the Eifel Klassik, an Oldtimer event on the Nordschleife each year in fall, liek early October. It was said that this year, 1960 F1 cars will take part. -- Matthias Flatt http://matthead.home.pages.de/

Well, I am obviously a newbie to F1. Thanks to all for the info. I'm still psyched for the race! Was the old (original?) track closed because of Lauda's accident? To put this thread more-or-less back on topic, I assume the current F1 games (like F1 2000 which I rented for my PSX last night) use the "new" Ring? Are there any good F1 games that use the old (original?) Ring? Also, thanks to the poster who posted the URL for the maps; they're great! - Tom N. ============================================================================== "Ferrari is the epitome of mechanical beauty and Ferraris are acquired by men who wish to turn their dreams into reality and inject into their lives a long period of youthful passion. I guess this is why there is Ferrari and then there is everything else." - Enzo Ferrari, on the Ferrari mystique (Translated from Italian) ==============================================================================

Thomas C Norwood <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:8g537l$8ga$[email hidden]... > Well, I am obviously a newbie to F1. Thanks to all for the info. > I'm still psyched for the race! Was the old (original?) track > closed because of Lauda's accident? Yes- the old track was finally judged to be too unsafe for F1. > To put this thread more-or-less back on topic, I assume the current F1 > games (like F1 2000 which I rented for my PSX last night) use the "new" > Ring? Yep. > Are there any good F1 games that use the old (original?) Ring? Grand Prix Legends. You'll get to know that name very well around here. :-)

Gault <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:8g59bu$9je$[email hidden]...

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> > Thomas C Norwood <[email hidden]> wrote in message > news:8g537l$8ga$[email hidden]... > > Well, I am obviously a newbie to F1. Thanks to all for the info. > > I'm still psyched for the race! Was the old (original?) track > > closed because of Lauda's accident? > > Yes- the old track was finally judged to be too unsafe for F1.

Oops...I don't want to give the wrong impression here. The old track still exists and was not "closed". As a matter of fact, the public can run there on certain days even today. It's just that F1 no longer runs races there.

Laurens de Jong wrote: > > I suspect you were suggesting I drive the Nordschleife during the GP. I > hadn't thought of that. It would have been tempting! Guaranteed to be > really quiet; unlike the rest of the day when mostly drunk vandals populate > the track, and I'd conveniently miss watching the race. But, unfortunately, > it's closed. Ah, well, in that case, try visiting the place during the Historical GP, it's usually run in early August, lots of lovely cars from the 30's and upwards and the Nordschleife is most certainly open, not exactly quiet and deserted, but due to the fact that a LOT of clubs decide to use this weekend to meet up there, you get the chance to run on the Nordschleife alongside some really cool cars :-))) Beers and cheers (uncle) Goy "Team Mirage" http://www.teammirage.com/ "The Pits" http://www.theuspits.com/ * Spam is for losers who can't get business any other way * "Spamkiller" http://www.spamkiller.com

'Anecdotory'....I LIKE it, Laurens!! A work colleague created 'Productionisation' in a report this week. That went down REALLY well!! -- Regards, Bruce Kennewell, Canberra, Australia. --------------------------- Laurens de Jong <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]... > Anecdotary (nothing like starting a post with a word you just > made up), a friend called me last Sunday to ask if I'd come to > the 'Ring with her this weekend. I said I really wasn't sure > why, but that I had mentally crossed off all May weekends for > Ring visits. > > A classic case of differently aligned interests in geographically > closely related tracks. Although I follow F1 casually, I had no > idea the GP was this weekend. As for my friend, where-ever in > the world F1 races is _the_ place to be, regardless of any real > race tracks being in the vicinity. > > Needless to say, I declined to go. I don't see the point of > travelling to the Ring on a day it's closed. My response was > greeted by cold silence. Ohh, the non-understanding... > > -Laurens de Jong, The Netherlands. > > P.S. Oh, this was the same Volvo-driving friend I mentioned > earlier. > > * Sent from RemarQ http://www.remarq.com The Internet's Discussion Network * > The fastest and easiest way to search and participate in Usenet - Free! >

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> > Ah, well, in that case, try visiting the place during the Historical GP, > it's usually run in early August, lots of lovely cars from the 30's and > upwards and the Nordschleife is most certainly open, not exactly quiet > and deserted, but due to the fact that a LOT of clubs decide to use this > weekend to meet up there, you get the chance to run on the Nordschleife > alongside some really cool cars :-)))

I'm always amazed that they dare to run those great old cars together with all the loonies in Golf GTIs... ;) l8er ronny -- "You're one of those condescending Unix computer users!" "Here's a nickel, kid. Get yourself a better computer" - Dilbert.

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> > Goy Larsen wrote: > > > snip > > > > Ah, well, in that case, try visiting the place during the Historical GP, > > it's usually run in early August, lots of lovely cars from the 30's and > > upwards and the Nordschleife is most certainly open, not exactly quiet > > and deserted, but due to the fact that a LOT of clubs decide to use this > > weekend to meet up there, you get the chance to run on the Nordschleife > > alongside some really cool cars :-))) > > I'm always amazed that they dare to run those great old cars together with > all the loonies in Golf GTIs... ;)

Not to mention this particular loony in a beat up old Ascona B (at the time) Beers and cheers (uncle) Goy "Team Mirage" http://www.teammirage.com/ "The Pits" http://www.theuspits.com/ * Spam is for losers who can't get business any other way * "Spamkiller" http://www.spamkiller.com