Is the Guillemot Force Feedback wheel any good?
There's a special deal here on it and I'm twitching to upgrade from my
Thrustmaster GP1. (I *know* it's the wheel and not me that makes me so slow
in GPL!)
Not sure whether I should wait and get the Logitech. Or another?
Advice appreciated.
Tony
I looked at many FF. wheels and I finally chose the Guillemot Ferrari FF.
wheel . It works great! and it was only $100.00
Flash
You'll start a lively debate with this one, but I think the Guillemot
Ferrari wheel is the best I've tried by some way, and I've had a lot of
experience of the MS, Logitech, and SC&T ones. Make sure it's the Ferrari
wheel , and G'mot's other (older) one that you get - can't remember what is
was called.
Iain
Tony Lake <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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> Is the Guillemot Force Feedback wheel any good?
> There's a special deal here on it and I'm twitching to upgrade from my
> Thrustmaster GP1. (I *know* it's the wheel and not me that makes me soslow
> in GPL!)
> Not sure whether I should wait and get the Logitech. Or another?
> Advice appreciated.
> Tony
>
>
Have got this wheel wotking with SCGT? If yes, how?
Thanks
Steven
>Guillmot has 2 force feedback wheels. The older one is called the Force
>Leader (or something like that) and the newer one it the Ferrari. The
>Ferrari is a very good choice for GPL. The older one I know very little
>about.
It's called the Race Leader Force Feedback. Made of cheapo plastic, but
works for me. FF for about $80 made it worth it to me. It works thru the
serial port and gives rock solid calibration, but will ONLY work with
Windows games (or in a Windowed session). Buttons are programmable, but the
editor makes my computer lock up. I still think it's worth the money.
Gunner
GTX_SlotCar wrote in message ...
>Guillmot has 2 force feedback wheels. The older one is called the Force
>Leader (or something like that) and the newer one it the Ferrari. The
>Ferrari is a very good choice for GPL. The older one I know very little
>about.
>
It's called the Race Leader Force Feedback. Made of cheapo plastic, but
works for me. FF for about $80 made it worth it to me. It works thru the
serial port and gives rock solid calibration, but will ONLY work with
Windows games (or in a Windowed session). Buttons are programmable, but the
editor makes my computer lock up. I still think it's worth the money.
Gunner
Don,
You know, it uses the same drivers and editor as the Ferrari. At least I
think it does because the originals I got with the Ferrari wheel said Race
Leader on them. Come to think of it, I think my original editor locked up my
computer sometimes, too (like I said, I think it did). So maybe the new
Ferrari drivers would work with the Race Leader. It's probably the same
insides anyway ;-)
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Slot
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"Don Hancock ("Gunner")" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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> GTX_SlotCar wrote in message ...
> >Guillmot has 2 force feedback wheels. The older one is called the Force
> >Leader (or something like that) and the newer one it the Ferrari. The
> >Ferrari is a very good choice for GPL. The older one I know very little
> >about.
> >
>
>
> It's called the Race Leader Force Feedback. Made of cheapo plastic,
but
> works for me. FF for about $80 made it worth it to me. It works thru the
> serial port and gives rock solid calibration, but will ONLY work with
> Windows games (or in a Windowed session). Buttons are programmable, but
the
> editor makes my computer lock up. I still think it's worth the money.
>
> Gunner
>
>
In article <kjPV4.947$[email hidden]>, Some Call Me Tim
<[email hidden]> writes
>I went for the Ferrari FF wheel and have certainly not regretted it. The FF
>is the best I've found and the construction is very solid. The pedals are
>something that buyers forget about and these are much better than most of
>the others.
I find the FF an irritation and distraction -- to me it doesn't add any
realism, and seriously impedes my lap times (in GPL). Am I doing
something wrong?
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Not add any realism..hmmmm...feel the wheel go light over crests, feel
the front wheels slide as you understeer into a wall....but i have to
admit, it takes some getting used to.
Makes you gradd the wheel better too (as you would have to in the real
thing)
i only wish i could make the force stronger.....hmmmm...i wonder where
that starter for the diesel went.........
Sudesh
Russell Whitworth wrote:
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> > In article <kjPV4.947$[email hidden]>, Some Call Me Tim > <[email hidden]> writes > >I went for the Ferrari FF wheel and have certainly not regretted it. The FF > >is the best I've found and the construction is very solid. The pedals are > >something that buyers forget about and these are much better than most of > >the others. > > I find the FF an irritation and distraction -- to me it doesn't add any > realism, and seriously impedes my lap times (in GPL). Am I doing > something wrong? > > -- > Russell Whitworth > > - If you need my email address, you'll have to visit my website (sorry) - > - Home ==> http://www.anchorag.demon.co.uk/ - > - Work ==> http://www.questus.co.uk/ -> I find the FF an irritation and distraction -- to me it doesn't add any
> realism, and seriously impedes my lap times (in GPL). Am I doing
> something wrong?
>
> --
> Russell Whitworth
Maybe not. A few people just don't like FF. But.... 2 things might help.
First, give yourself time to get used to it. 2nd, try turning down the
Overall Device Gain. If you're not used to it, there's no need to keep it at
maximum. Most people find that when they are used to FF, it's hard to go
back to driving without it. Give it time.
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On Thu, 25 May 2000 12:48:13 +0100 Russell Whitworth <[email hidden]> wrote:
% I find the FF an irritation and distraction -- to me it doesn't add any
% realism, and seriously impedes my lap times (in GPL). Am I doing
% something wrong?
Until you find the proper settings for your feel and style you will find
that your lap times will increase. Then there will be a new learning
curve to get your lap times back down. I have yet to achieve some of
the fastest laps I ran pre-FF. But the upside to FF is that my lap
times are almost as fast, but extremely more consistent. What really
sold me on FF was driving the Ring. Until FF I never understood why I
had such a difficult time with this track. It's alot more work to
wrestle with the wheel at the Ring with FF, but it's also alot more FUN!
I have the gains settings to 100% and the spring centering to 0% for
GPL. The following are my core.ini settings... Keep experimenting
until you find the right feel for you. You may want to start with
settings that don't provide alot of FF and as you adjust go back and
increase the feel some more.
force_feedback_latency = 0.001000
force_feedback_damping = 150.000000
max_steering_torque = 330.000000
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In article <dabX4.7959$[email hidden]>, "Michael E.
Carver"[email hidden] writes
Thanks -- those gentler settings helped a lot. Within an hour, I'd
improved my time at Kyalami (1:25.91 - yes, I know that's slow!). But
whereas before my 1:26's felt fast.. the 1:25's now feel slow -- so I
know I can do better.
Part of the problem is that FF is hitting my frame-rate quite badly.
I've turned off all detail, and it's not too bad now -- except when I
get cars in the mirrors, at which point the frame rate suffers and makes
it hard to keep the speed up.
Why Kyalami? It's the track I know best, having walked it several
times. The first major motor race I ever went to was the SAGP in 1968,
which of course featured the 1967 cars in GPL. Clark 1st, Hill 2nd.
Clark's last F1 race. This was a few days after my 11th birthday, for
which I was given an 8mm cine camera. Very sadly, the film I took that
day got lost in a house move a couple of years later. The first time I
fired up GPL it literally brought tears in my eyes, as one of the
replays had *exactly* the same camera angle and action as that long-lost
8mm film (Clark and Hill coming round Leeukop in formation, viewed from
the Leeukop grandstand).
(I missed 1969, but attended 1970, 1971, 1972, 1973... but more of that
another time...)
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- If you need my email address, you'll have to visit my website (sorry) -
- Home ==> http://www.anchorag.demon.co.uk/ -
- Work ==> http://www.questus.co.uk/ -
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>Until you find the proper settings for your feel and style you will find >that your lap times will increase. Then there will be a new learning >curve to get your lap times back down. I have yet to achieve some of >the fastest laps I ran pre-FF. But the upside to FF is that my lap >times are almost as fast, but extremely more consistent. What really >sold me on FF was driving the Ring. Until FF I never understood why I >had such a difficult time with this track. It's alot more work to >wrestle with the wheel at the Ring with FF, but it's also alot more FUN! > >I have the gains settings to 100% and the spring centering to 0% for >GPL. The following are my core.ini settings... Keep experimenting >until you find the right feel for you. You may want to start with >settings that don't provide alot of FF and as you adjust go back and >increase the feel some more. > >force_feedback_latency = 0.001000 >force_feedback_damping = 150.000000 >max_steering_torque = 330.000000 >I easily record faster lap times with ff consistently
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Russell Whitworth <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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> In article <dabX4.7959$[email hidden]>, "Michael E.
> Carver"[email hidden] writes
> >Until you find the proper settings for your feel and style you will find
> >that your lap times will increase. Then there will be a new learning
> >curve to get your lap times back down. I have yet to achieve some of
> >the fastest laps I ran pre-FF. But the upside to FF is that my lap
> >times are almost as fast, but extremely more consistent. What really
> >sold me on FF was driving the Ring. Until FF I never understood why I
> >had such a difficult time with this track. It's alot more work to
> >wrestle with the wheel at the Ring with FF, but it's also alot more FUN!
> >
> >I have the gains settings to 100% and the spring centering to 0% for
> >GPL. The following are my core.ini settings... Keep experimenting
> >until you find the right feel for you. You may want to start with
> >settings that don't provide alot of FF and as you adjust go back and
> >increase the feel some more.
> >
> >force_feedback_latency = 0.001000
> >force_feedback_damping = 150.000000
> >max_steering_torque = 330.000000
> >
>
> Thanks -- those gentler settings helped a lot. Within an hour, I'd
> improved my time at Kyalami (1:25.91 - yes, I know that's slow!). But
> whereas before my 1:26's felt fast.. the 1:25's now feel slow -- so I
> know I can do better.
>
> Part of the problem is that FF is hitting my frame-rate quite badly.
> I've turned off all detail, and it's not too bad now -- except when I
> get cars in the mirrors, at which point the frame rate suffers and makes
> it hard to keep the speed up.
>
> Why Kyalami? It's the track I know best, having walked it several
> times. The first major motor race I ever went to was the SAGP in 1968,
> which of course featured the 1967 cars in GPL. Clark 1st, Hill 2nd.
> Clark's last F1 race. This was a few days after my 11th birthday, for
> which I was given an 8mm cine camera. Very sadly, the film I took that
> day got lost in a house move a couple of years later. The first time I
> fired up GPL it literally brought tears in my eyes, as one of the
> replays had *exactly* the same camera angle and action as that long-lost
> 8mm film (Clark and Hill coming round Leeukop in formation, viewed from
> the Leeukop grandstand).
>
> (I missed 1969, but attended 1970, 1971, 1972, 1973... but more of that
> another time...)
>
> --
> Russell Whitworth
>
> - If you need my email address, you'll have to visit my website (sorry) -
> - Home ==> http://www.anchorag.demon.co.uk/ -
> - Work ==> http://www.questus.co.uk/ -
