Re: 1.06 patch for F1 2000 is out at www.simracing.com

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> On Sun, 21 May 2000 21:56:31 -0500, BriGuy <[email hidden]> thus > spoke: > > > >Yeah, but now after DLing the files and installing, I get this message > >"The Jordan driver is entering the pits" > >instead of (Frentzen?) I remember I had to tweak Heinz-Harald's name way > >back when for some reason (If it's spelled "Heinz-HAROLD", something > >doesn't work right) So maybe when I overwrote that particular file, > >something got undone. ANyone remember the exact fix? > > Don't know, sorry. But, my damage icon doesn't show damage since > installing the patch. How about you? > -- > Nos >

Can't speak for damage per se, but I overcooked my tires after 30 laps at N-ring yesterday. Spun right around multiple times before I could pit, and cashed in my 35 sec. lead. Seems I'm gonna start having to pay attention to this, now that I have the patch! ;-) -- s i m a g e r y @ h o t m a i l . c o m

It's an "unofficial" patch, not a hack...It won't be "official" until EA posts it. Would you prefer to wait? ;) Official = EA Unofficial = ISI Difference >> Time Cheers! Marc Greg Cisko wrote:

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> But is it an official patch or some hack??? > > -- > > [email hidden] > > <[email hidden]> wrote in message > news:8gb5n0$7soc$[email hidden]... > > In article <[email hidden]>, BriGuy > <[email hidden]> wrote: > > >In article <8g98r9$jdu$[email hidden]>, [email hidden] > > >says... > > >> Yes. I ran a 20 lap race at Brazil and only 1 car crashed and 3 DNF. > > >> There's hope for the game yet!!!! > > > > Full length Nurburgring, only 3 cars DNF'd ... not including mine. Thumbs > up > > for improved AI, thumbs down for too few mechanical retirements. > > > > >Yeah, but now after DLing the files and installing, I get this message > > >"The Jordan driver is entering the pits" > > >instead of (Frentzen?) I remember I had to tweak Heinz-Harald's name way > > >back when for some reason (If it's spelled "Heinz-HAROLD", something > > >doesn't work right) So maybe when I overwrote that particular file, > > >something got undone. ANyone remember the exact fix? > > > > It did overwrite Frentzen's veh file (some number sequence followed by > .veh). > > All it changed was the spelling of his name. I'll try changing it back to > see > > what it does. > >

In article <[email hidden]>, BriGuy <[email hidden]> wrote: >In article <8g98r9$jdu$[email hidden]>, [email hidden] >says... >> Yes. I ran a 20 lap race at Brazil and only 1 car crashed and 3 DNF. >> There's hope for the game yet!!!! Full length Nurburgring, only 3 cars DNF'd ... not including mine. Thumbs up for improved AI, thumbs down for too few mechanical retirements. >Yeah, but now after DLing the files and installing, I get this message >"The Jordan driver is entering the pits" >instead of (Frentzen?) I remember I had to tweak Heinz-Harald's name way >back when for some reason (If it's spelled "Heinz-HAROLD", something >doesn't work right) So maybe when I overwrote that particular file, >something got undone. ANyone remember the exact fix? It did overwrite Frentzen's veh file (some number sequence followed by .veh). All it changed was the spelling of his name. I'll try changing it back to see what it does.

But is it an official patch or some hack??? -- [email hidden] <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:8gb5n0$7soc$[email hidden]... > In article <[email hidden]>, BriGuy <[email hidden]> wrote: > >In article <8g98r9$jdu$[email hidden]>, [email hidden] > >says... > >> Yes. I ran a 20 lap race at Brazil and only 1 car crashed and 3 DNF. > >> There's hope for the game yet!!!! > > Full length Nurburgring, only 3 cars DNF'd ... not including mine. Thumbs up > for improved AI, thumbs down for too few mechanical retirements. > > >Yeah, but now after DLing the files and installing, I get this message > >"The Jordan driver is entering the pits" > >instead of (Frentzen?) I remember I had to tweak Heinz-Harald's name way > >back when for some reason (If it's spelled "Heinz-HAROLD", something > >doesn't work right) So maybe when I overwrote that particular file, > >something got undone. ANyone remember the exact fix? > > It did overwrite Frentzen's veh file (some number sequence followed by .veh). > All it changed was the spelling of his name. I'll try changing it back to see > what it does. >

Greg, Big improvement in the AI performance, but I don't get any of the FF improvement that Pat is talking about I'm afraid. Iain Greg Cisko <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:d3aW4.3721$[email hidden]...

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> But is it an official patch or some hack??? > > -- > > [email hidden] > > > <[email hidden]> wrote in message > news:8gb5n0$7soc$[email hidden]... > > In article <[email hidden]>, BriGuy > <[email hidden]> wrote: > > >In article <8g98r9$jdu$[email hidden]>, [email hidden] > > >says... > > >> Yes. I ran a 20 lap race at Brazil and only 1 car crashed and 3 DNF. > > >> There's hope for the game yet!!!! > > > > Full length Nurburgring, only 3 cars DNF'd ... not including mine.

Thumbs > up > > for improved AI, thumbs down for too few mechanical retirements. > > > > >Yeah, but now after DLing the files and installing, I get this message > > >"The Jordan driver is entering the pits" > > >instead of (Frentzen?) I remember I had to tweak Heinz-Harald's nameway

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> > >back when for some reason (If it's spelled "Heinz-HAROLD", something > > >doesn't work right) So maybe when I overwrote that particular file, > > >something got undone. ANyone remember the exact fix? > > > > It did overwrite Frentzen's veh file (some number sequence followed by > .veh). > > All it changed was the spelling of his name. I'll try changing it back

to > see > > what it does. > > > >

In article <8getg7$q4l$[email hidden]>, [email hidden] says...

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> Nos <[email hidden]> wrote in message > news:[email hidden]... > > Don't know, sorry. But, my damage icon doesn't show damage since > > installing the patch. How about you? > > Well does your team manager still call out the individual driver > names like before? BriGuy said that he was getting the Team > name instead of the driver name. Not really a big deal but did > the patch change this or was something porked on his installation? >

Someone pointed out - as I suspected - that changing Heinz-Harald Frentzen's name in the Vehicles folder (file: J05gpxa) from Heinz- Har*o*ld alters it back to the correct way. -- s i m a g e r y @ h o t m a i l . c o m

Try setting "Mechanical Failures" in the Rules pages to 2x or more. I don't have the patch, but it sounds like the better AI and less stupid mistakes more than makes up for less failures (that we can fix easily). Now I'll have to restart my season and hope I come in better than 17th at Albert Park with the AI at 115%. LOL. Jason. [email hidden] wrote:

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> In article <[email hidden]>, BriGuy <[email hidden]> wrote: > >In article <8g98r9$jdu$[email hidden]>, [email hidden] > >says... > >> Yes. I ran a 20 lap race at Brazil and only 1 car crashed and 3 DNF. > >> There's hope for the game yet!!!! > > Full length Nurburgring, only 3 cars DNF'd ... not including mine. Thumbs up > for improved AI, thumbs down for too few mechanical retirements. >

-- Jason Monds http://www.proracingclub.com - Pro Racing Club! (N3, GPL) http://members.home.net/stuff.mondsj/csp - Car Sim Project (Please remove 'no extra spork' when replying)

Nos <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]... > Don't know, sorry. But, my damage icon doesn't show damage since > installing the patch. How about you? Well does your team manager still call out the individual driver names like before? BriGuy said that he was getting the Team name instead of the driver name. Not really a big deal but did the patch change this or was something porked on his installation? -- [email hidden]

It is from ISI. EA is taking a long time to approve its' release, though. Luckily, a pre-release version of the patch is available to us now. -- PD x wrote: > > Well, I haven't tried it yet myself (it's downloading right now) but from > what I've read it really sounds like someone having access to the source > code must have been involved with it. It sounds like a bit much for someone > with a disassembler to have worked out by now. Plus, it came uncredited and > secretly. SOme hacker would almost certainly have left some calling card, > at least, something like "super f1 2000 update brought to you by > the DarkWhales" or whatever. > Everything points to legit from what I've read. > > >OK that is great. But how do you know it is official? Everyone says > >there is nothing within the patch indicating where it came from. > > > >-- > > > >[email hidden] > > > > > >Marc J. Nelson <[email hidden]> wrote in message > >news:[email hidden]... > >> It's an "unofficial" patch, not a hack...It won't be "official" until > >> EA > >posts > >> it. Would you prefer to wait? ;) > >> > >> Official = EA > >> Unofficial = ISI > >> > >> Difference >> Time > >> > >> Cheers! > >> Marc > >> > >> Greg Cisko wrote: > >> > >> > But is it an official patch or some hack??? > >> > > >

Well, I haven't tried it yet myself (it's downloading right now) but from what I've read it really sounds like someone having access to the source code must have been involved with it. It sounds like a bit much for someone with a disassembler to have worked out by now. Plus, it came uncredited and secretly. SOme hacker would almost certainly have left some calling card, at least, something like "super f1 2000 update brought to you by the DarkWhales" or whatever. Everything points to legit from what I've read.

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>OK that is great. But how do you know it is official? Everyone says >there is nothing within the patch indicating where it came from. > >-- > >[email hidden] > > >Marc J. Nelson <[email hidden]> wrote in message >news:[email hidden]... >> It's an "unofficial" patch, not a hack...It won't be "official" until >> EA >posts >> it. Would you prefer to wait? ;) >> >> Official = EA >> Unofficial = ISI >> >> Difference >> Time >> >> Cheers! >> Marc >> >> Greg Cisko wrote: >> >> > But is it an official patch or some hack??? >> > >

OK that is great. But how do you know it is official? Everyone says there is nothing within the patch indicating where it came from. -- [email hidden] Marc J. Nelson <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]... > It's an "unofficial" patch, not a hack...It won't be "official" until EA posts > it. Would you prefer to wait? ;) > > Official = EA > Unofficial = ISI > > Difference >> Time > > Cheers! > Marc > > Greg Cisko wrote: > > > But is it an official patch or some hack??? > > > > -- > > > > [email hidden] > > > > <[email hidden]> wrote in message > > news:8gb5n0$7soc$[email hidden]... > > > In article <[email hidden]>, BriGuy > > <[email hidden]> wrote: > > > >In article <8g98r9$jdu$[email hidden]>, [email hidden] > > > >says... > > > >> Yes. I ran a 20 lap race at Brazil and only 1 car crashed and 3 DNF. > > > >> There's hope for the game yet!!!! > > > > > > Full length Nurburgring, only 3 cars DNF'd ... not including mine. Thumbs > > up > > > for improved AI, thumbs down for too few mechanical retirements. > > > > > > >Yeah, but now after DLing the files and installing, I get this message > > > >"The Jordan driver is entering the pits" > > > >instead of (Frentzen?) I remember I had to tweak Heinz-Harald's name way > > > >back when for some reason (If it's spelled "Heinz-HAROLD", something > > > >doesn't work right) So maybe when I overwrote that particular file, > > > >something got undone. ANyone remember the exact fix? > > > > > > It did overwrite Frentzen's veh file (some number sequence followed by > > .veh). > > > All it changed was the spelling of his name. I'll try changing it back to > > see > > > what it does. > > > >

On Mon, 22 May 2000 19:49:04 -0500, BriGuy <[email hidden]> thus spoke: >Can't speak for damage per se, but I overcooked my tires after 30 laps at >N-ring yesterday. Spun right around multiple times before I could >pit, and cashed in my 35 sec. lead. Seems I'm gonna start having to pay >attention to this, now that I have the patch! ;-) Yes, I can feel the tires starting to wear after about 6 laps or so. I've got the damage showing again. I disabled mipmapping and got the various colours to show damage back. Don't know why mipmapping would break that, but that's all I changed. -- Nos

On Mon, 22 May 2000 20:14:28 -0500, "Greg Cisko" <[email hidden]> thus spoke: >OK that is great. But how do you know it is official? Everyone says >there is nothing within the patch indicating where it came from. It's not a virus. Just install the damn thing! :-) -- Nos

thus spoke: It's not a virus. Just install the damn thing! :-) -- Nos

I tried a quick race 20% at 5x wear and came in 20th, dead last. The other 2 cars lost their engine. The AI *is* better or I'm worse ;-) Jason. Jason Monds wrote: > Now I'll have to restart my season and hope I come in better than 17th at Albert Park with the AI at > 115%. LOL. > > Jason. -- Jason Monds http://www.proracingclub.com - Pro Racing Club! (N3, GPL) http://members.home.net/stuff.mondsj/csp - Car Sim Project (Please remove 'no extra spork' when replying)

On Tue, 23 May 2000 16:36:01 -0500, "Greg Cisko" <[email hidden]> thus spoke: >Well does your team manager still call out the individual driver >names like before? BriGuy said that he was getting the Team >name instead of the driver name. Not really a big deal but did >the patch change this or was something porked on his installation? Hmm...I'll have to go check it to be sure, but I seem to remember still getting the individual driver names. I turned off mipmapping and I have the damage colours back Have to check that too because I don't see why mipmapping would alter that feature. A nice feature of this patch is that you can choose how many cars to race against which can improve the frame rate quite a lot. -- Nos

You could always chose the number of cars to race against - it's in the race setup menu! Iain Nos <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]...

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> On Tue, 23 May 2000 16:36:01 -0500, "Greg Cisko" <[email hidden]> > thus spoke: > > > >Well does your team manager still call out the individual driver > >names like before? BriGuy said that he was getting the Team > >name instead of the driver name. Not really a big deal but did > >the patch change this or was something porked on his installation? > > Hmm...I'll have to go check it to be sure, but I seem to remember > still getting the individual driver names. I turned off mipmapping and > I have the damage colours back Have to check that too because I don't > see why mipmapping would alter that feature. A nice feature of this > patch is that you can choose how many cars to race against which can > improve the frame rate quite a lot. > -- > Nos

> Someone pointed out - as I suspected - that changing Heinz-Harald > Frentzen's name in the Vehicles folder (file: J05gpxa) from Heinz- > Har*o*ld alters it back to the correct way. >My J05gpxa file says 'Heinz-Harald Frentzen' - the patch didn't change it - and the guy still says 'the jordan driver'. The J05gpxa file in the patch zip file doesn't have Har*o*ld. Am I missing something here? Iain

On Wed, 24 May 2000 07:41:57 +0100, "Iain Mackenzie" <[email hidden]> thus spoke: >You could always chose the number of cars to race against - it's in the race >setup menu! >Iain Only for the Test Day. If it was always an option then why would they have added it to the undocumented features for the other types of races? -- Nos

On Wed, 24 May 2000 14:40:38 +0100, "Iain Mackenzie" <[email hidden]> thus spoke: >My apologies, it is in the plr file where you could set the number of >opponents prior to the patch. >Iain Ah, that explains it. Haven't had F1 2000 long enough to have known that. BTW, I noticed in the "save" folder there is a "ai_pen.ini" file. A new version was in the zip for the patch. The below line looks like it may affect how closely the AI cars will follow each other (your car?). Do you think adjusting this might affect the ramming from behind? safe_dist=(4.0) // if we decide to follow, stay <safe_dist> -- Nos

My apologies, it is in the plr file where you could set the number of opponents prior to the patch. Iain Nos <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]... > On Wed, 24 May 2000 07:41:57 +0100, "Iain Mackenzie" > <[email hidden]> thus spoke: > > >You could always chose the number of cars to race against - it's in therace

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> >setup menu! > >Iain > > Only for the Test Day. If it was always an option then why would they > have added it to the undocumented features for the other types of > races? > -- > Nos

As we have discussed in another thread, I don't believe that there is a problem with ramming from behind, but try it out and let us know what happens. Iain Nos <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]...

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> On Wed, 24 May 2000 14:40:38 +0100, "Iain Mackenzie" > <[email hidden]> thus spoke: > > >My apologies, it is in the plr file where you could set the number of > >opponents prior to the patch. > >Iain > > Ah, that explains it. Haven't had F1 2000 long enough to have known > that. BTW, I noticed in the "save" folder there is a "ai_pen.ini" > file. A new version was in the zip for the patch. The below line looks > like it may affect how closely the AI cars will follow each other > (your car?). Do you think adjusting this might affect the ramming from > behind? > > safe_dist=(4.0) // if we decide to follow, stay <safe_dist> > > -- > Nos