Re: European Grand Prix - Looked like GPL out there...

Or maybe he has considerably developed his abilities since the Benetton days.

Wow - I'm watching the F1 race from Sunday again and am just amazed by the car control in the rain by (some of) these guys. Schumacher is the MASTER of the wet. LOL - these cars are sliding around like the '67 F1 cars in GPL :) --David Cook

The one thing that you have to admit the stuff we see from Schumacher we used to see form Alesi while he was still at Ferrari. I really feel a lot of Schumachers confidence and ability in the wet comes from the Ferrari wet handling. I remember Schumachers performance in the wet in his Benetton days all to well, he was good but not a 'rainmeister'. I have to admit his catch into the chicane looked great, but maybe that's just not possible with other cars. "David L. Cook" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]... > Wow - I'm watching the F1 race from Sunday again and am just amazed by thecar > control in the rain by (some of) these guys. Schumacher is the MASTER ofthe > wet. LOL - these cars are sliding around like the '67 F1 cars in GPL :) > > --David Cook

That's a possibility and not a stupid one either. But where's Jeans rain expertise. I remember him going around 3-4 secs quicker than anyone else at Argentina in a very slow Ferrari. "Claude Beaudouin" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]... > Or maybe he has considerably developed his abilities since the Benetton > days.

I can only speculate. [There's a lot of that in R.A.S.] Maybe Jean is not quite as driven or as hungry as he used to be. With time, other factors enter in one's mind which tend to reduce the sharp focus formerly reserved for only one activity. Or there are limitations to his car which preclude his showing his talents in the wet.

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> > I can only speculate. [There's a lot of that in R.A.S.] > > Maybe Jean is not quite as driven or as hungry as he used to be. With > time, other factors enter in one's mind which tend to reduce the sharp > focus formerly reserved for only one activity. > > Or there are limitations to his car which preclude his showing his > talents in the wet.

From what I can see and from what the Speedvision commentators (Sam Posey, David Hobbs) say, the car definately precludes his showing his rain or dry talents. dave henrie

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> > Claude Beaudouin wrote: > > > > I can only speculate. [There's a lot of that in R.A.S.] > > > > Maybe Jean is not quite as driven or as hungry as he used to be. With > > time, other factors enter in one's mind which tend to reduce the sharp > > focus formerly reserved for only one activity. > > > > Or there are limitations to his car which preclude his showing his > > talents in the wet. > > From what I can see and from what the Speedvision commentators > (Sam Posey, David Hobbs) say, the car definately precludes his > showing his rain or dry talents.

That's an understatement :-) Beers and cheers (uncle) Goy "Team Mirage" http://www.teammirage.com/ "The Pits" http://www.theuspits.com/ * Spam is for losers who can't get business any other way * "Spamkiller" http://www.spamkiller.com

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>In article <R8sW4.2674$[email hidden]>, [email hidden] says... >> >>The one thing that you have to admit the stuff we see from Schumacher we >>used to see form Alesi while he was still at Ferrari. I really feel a lot of >>Schumachers confidence and ability in the wet comes from the Ferrari wet >>handling. I remember Schumachers performance in the wet in his Benetton days >>all to well, he was good but not a 'rainmeister'. I have to admit his catch >>into the chicane looked great, but maybe that's just not possible with other >>cars. > >Sorry but I dont share your viewpoint. Schumacher has always been excellent >in >the wet. Remeber Spa in 95? He stated from the back and won in the rain. >There >he blew by Hill while on Slicks while Damon was on rain tires. I'll never >forget that day... >

Didn't he do the same thing at Monaco one year? The announcers couldn't *believe* the lead he was pulling out... Eldred -- Tiger Stadium R.I.P. 1912-1999 Own Grand Prix Legends? Goto http://gpl.gamestats.com/vroc Never argue with an idiot. He brings you down to his level, then beats you with experience... Remove SPAM-OFF to reply.

>There >he blew by Hill while on Slicks while Damon was on rain tires. I'll never >forget that day... Actually Hill passed Schuey when he was on wets and Schu on slicks. They nearly collided at Les Combes and Schu went off allowing Hill through. Still a great drive though :-) -- Cheers! Graeme Nash // Just did my first 1m26 at Monza and feeling good :-)

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> >The one thing that you have to admit the stuff we see from Schumacher we >used to see form Alesi while he was still at Ferrari. I really feel a lot of >Schumachers confidence and ability in the wet comes from the Ferrari wet >handling. I remember Schumachers performance in the wet in his Benetton days >all to well, he was good but not a 'rainmeister'. I have to admit his catch >into the chicane looked great, but maybe that's just not possible with other >cars.

Sorry but I dont share your viewpoint. Schumacher has always been excellent in the wet. Remeber Spa in 95? He stated from the back and won in the rain. There he blew by Hill while on Slicks while Damon was on rain tires. I'll never forget that day...

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> >"David L. Cook" <[email hidden]> wrote in message >news:[email hidden]... >> Wow - I'm watching the F1 race from Sunday again and am just amazed by the >car >> control in the rain by (some of) these guys. Schumacher is the MASTER of >the >> wet. LOL - these cars are sliding around like the '67 F1 cars in GPL :) >> >> --David Cook > >

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> > >There > >he blew by Hill while on Slicks while Damon was on rain tires. I'll never > >forget that day... > > Actually Hill passed Schuey when he was on wets and Schu on slicks. They > nearly collided at Les Combes and Schu went off allowing Hill through. > Still a great drive though :-)

And then we have Suzuka in 94, Hill beat Schumi in terrible conditions, so no, Schumi hasn't *always* been the "rain master" :-) Beers and cheers (uncle) Goy "Team Mirage" http://www.teammirage.com/ "The Pits" http://www.theuspits.com/ * Spam is for losers who can't get business any other way * "Spamkiller" http://www.spamkiller.com