Some days ago Andre told us about his trip to the
Nuerburgring-Nordschleife and that the track was closed. He was told
to look at the Nuerburgring-website for the opening times.
Yesterday I wanted to do a ride on the Nordschleife and looked at the
website several times. I even called a phone-number where a tape was
running, telling the opening times.
Both of them stated 12:15 as the opening time. Despite it was the day
after the Europen GP and parts of the Nordschleife were used for
parking and camping, I arrived at 12:30 at the Nuerburgring. A lot of
other fanatics like me from all across Europe were waiting eagerly for
the track-opening.
Then suddenly a message board told us: opening time 14:00.
So we decided to take a trip to the lovely Nuerburg-castle. You guess
? closed on mondays!
Back to the track the message board was showing opening time 16:00
BTW, it was raining most of the time.
Looking at the Caterhams, Jags 220, Porsche GT3 for 2 hours....in the
rain....
16:00
Message board: 17:00 uahhhhhh!!!!
Well at 17:00 they really opened the track, and most of us crazy
people were still there after waiting for more than 4 hours.
The good thing: the track was mostly dry now, except some parts at
Pflanzgarten.
Did three laps, left with a smile :)
Juergen
>Did three laps, left with a smile :)
This is the thing that'll kill Andre.
-Laurens de Jong, The Netherlands.
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Worth the wait though eh?!
What car (or bike?) did you drive round?
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Juergen Voss <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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| Some days ago Andre told us about his trip to the
| Nuerburgring-Nordschleife and that the track was closed. He was told
| to look at the Nuerburgring-website for the opening times.
|
| Yesterday I wanted to do a ride on the Nordschleife and looked at the
| website several times. I even called a phone-number where a tape was
| running, telling the opening times.
| Both of them stated 12:15 as the opening time. Despite it was the day
| after the Europen GP and parts of the Nordschleife were used for
| parking and camping, I arrived at 12:30 at the Nuerburgring. A lot of
| other fanatics like me from all across Europe were waiting eagerly for
| the track-opening.
| Then suddenly a message board told us: opening time 14:00.
| So we decided to take a trip to the lovely Nuerburg-castle. You guess
| ? closed on mondays!
|
| Back to the track the message board was showing opening time 16:00
| BTW, it was raining most of the time.
| Looking at the Caterhams, Jags 220, Porsche GT3 for 2 hours....in the
| rain....
| 16:00
| Message board: 17:00 uahhhhhh!!!!
|
| Well at 17:00 they really opened the track, and most of us crazy
| people were still there after waiting for more than 4 hours.
| The good thing: the track was mostly dry now, except some parts at
| Pflanzgarten.
|
| Did three laps, left with a smile :)
| Juergen
hmmmmm......
race eachother?
well it was nice knowing you.....
Sudesh
Andre Warringa wrote:
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> > Well, new chance is in sight. Within 2 weeks I'll get a new car, a > Peugeot 106 (I know, it's no Ferrari, but it's from the company, it's > free, I can't complain). > I will go to the Ring together with my friend, who has an Alfa 156, > and we'll see who is faster. > His advantage is a faster car, my advantage is my irresponsible lack > of fear :) > > Andre > > On Tue, 23 May 2000 08:27:08 -0700, Laurens de Jong > <[email hidden]> wrote: > > >>Did three laps, left with a smile :) > > > >This is the thing that'll kill Andre. > > > >-Laurens de Jong, The Netherlands. > > > >* Sent from RemarQ http://www.remarq.com The Internet's Discussion Network * > >The fastest and easiest way to search and participate in Usenet - Free! > >Well, new chance is in sight. Within 2 weeks I'll get a new car, a
Peugeot 106 (I know, it's no Ferrari, but it's from the company, it's
free, I can't complain).
I will go to the Ring together with my friend, who has an Alfa 156,
and we'll see who is faster.
His advantage is a faster car, my advantage is my irresponsible lack
of fear :)
Andre
On Tue, 23 May 2000 08:27:08 -0700, Laurens de Jong
<[email hidden]> wrote:
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>>Did three laps, left with a smile :) > >This is the thing that'll kill Andre. > >-Laurens de Jong, The Netherlands. > >* Sent from RemarQ http://www.remarq.com The Internet's Discussion Network * >The fastest and easiest way to search and participate in Usenet - Free! >June 1 will be my next trip date, Andre. I assume that'll be
just too soon for you?
-Laurens de Jong, The Netherlands.
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I don't know when I will get my car exactly, but if it's before June 1
I'll surely let you know!
Andre
On Wed, 24 May 2000 04:28:30 -0700, Laurens de Jong
<[email hidden]> wrote:
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>June 1 will be my next trip date, Andre. I assume that'll be >just too soon for you? > >-Laurens de Jong, The Netherlands. > >* Sent from RemarQ http://www.remarq.com The Internet's Discussion Network * >The fastest and easiest way to search and participate in Usenet - Free! >Andre Warringa <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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Hi Andre
Not sure if you're serious about racing your friend at the Ring - if you are
please reconsider.
Check out http://www.lovejoy.demon.co.uk/nuerburgring/index.html. This guy
seems genuine. The following is from his "Warning" page:
"Ben Lovejoy's N�rburgring section
Warning
"The Nordschleife is very dangerous.
You have to be really careful."
Michael Schumacher
I love the N�rburgring. I have a season ticket, go virtually every month
between April and October and once went there three times in five weeks. So
far as I'm concerned, if you love riding or driving, you have to go to the
Ring: it's the ultimate race-track.
But nobody should go there without a full appreciation of the risks. The
Ring is an incredibly unforgiving place. With the exception of a handful of
bends, there's no run-off: if you fail to make a bend, you're going to hit
something hard.
And nor is your fate entirely in your own hands: other people's mistakes can
kill you just as easily as your own. One of the group of us on my most
recent trip came round a bend to find that a car had dumped oil all over the
track. He was fortunate to get away with a couple of broken bones.
Focusing too much on lap-times is a particular danger. After doing my
fastest ever lap on trip 5, and scaring myself by pushing my limits, I
commented on this to Ring instructor Jon Taylor. In his reply, he said
(quoted here with his permission):
I stopped timing myself back in about '92 after a few scares. Now
I only get the time if someone tells me it, I don't actually try for it. I
go for smoothness and having fun. I push myself as far as I'm happy and no
more.
I have seen too many deaths (one of them a very good friend of mine)
and crippling injuries there. One of our Instructors has crashed so many
times I've lost count, and he is forever telling us his times, so I have my
suspicions the two are connected. Had a doctor not been one of the next
people round when he lost it at Pflanzgarten 2 he says he would have lost
his leg! It is an unforgiving track and when you find that out it's too
late.
There will always be someone quicker than you out there at some time. I
measure myself against others mentally to see if I'm improving
or not, but just upping the speed bit by bit will eventually IMHO lead to
disaster. I think you're dead right with the smoothness bit, even Helmut
Dahne says in his 'Ring video smooth large radius bends are the way to the
best laps. You know in yourself when you've got everything dead right, it's
just magic, and gives you (me) a high every time even after 13 years, 9 of
which instructing. It's what keeps me coming back year after year.
This page is not intended to put you off visiting the Ring -- far from it:
this whole section of the website is designed to share one of my passions in
the hope that others will be encouraged to enjoy it also. But nobody should
be complacent about riding the Ring: it can and does bite.
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Copyright � Ben Lovejoy 1999"
Have fun at the Ring and come tell us all about it!
Regards.
Leo
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> Well, new chance is in sight. Within 2 weeks I'll get a new car, a > Peugeot 106 (I know, it's no Ferrari, but it's from the company, it's > free, I can't complain). > I will go to the Ring together with my friend, who has an Alfa 156, > and we'll see who is faster. > His advantage is a faster car, my advantage is my irresponsible lack > of fear :) > > AndreI did it in a 220HP FIAT Turbo Coupe. Incredible brakes in this car!
My sister was driving with me and this time she didn't scream so much
as she did at our first visit to the Nordschleife :)
But she scared me to death when she did 240km/h on the Autobahn on our
way back home.
Juergen
In article <8gefpp$mfh$[email hidden]>,
"Robin Lord" <[email hidden]> wrote:
the
> | website several times. I even called a phone-number where a tape was
> | running, telling the opening times.
> | Both of them stated 12:15 as the opening time. Despite it was theday
> | after the Europen GP and parts of the Nordschleife were used for
> | parking and camping, I arrived at 12:30 at the Nuerburgring. A lotof
> | other fanatics like me from all across Europe were waiting eagerlyfor
> | the track-opening.
> | Then suddenly a message board told us: opening time 14:00.
> | So we decided to take a trip to the lovely Nuerburg-castle. Youguess
> | ? closed on mondays!
> |
> | Back to the track the message board was showing opening time 16:00
> | BTW, it was raining most of the time.
> | Looking at the Caterhams, Jags 220, Porsche GT3 for 2 hours....inthe
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