GTR- A rather lengthy post

Having recently purchased GTR, I wanted to know a bit about the FIA-GT technical specifications. Namely, whether or not ABS and Trac-control were used in the series. I sent an email to FIA and this was their response & they offerred tecnical regulations relevant to GTR: Thanks for your email. I hope you enjoy the game - many of our drivers have tried it out, and they all agreed that it was incredibly realistic. Some of them were using the simulator to practice some of the circuits, and were very impressed... The full technical regulations can be found on the FIA's web site, http://www.fia.com/sport/Regulations/gtregs.html For a brief summary of the technical regulations for 2003/2004 (ie relevant to the GTR game) : � Vehicle type eligibility: Vehicles are eligible in two different classes: GT and N-GT. For a vehicle to be eligible, it must be a car homologated by the FIA (GT and N-GT) or a car from the list of acceptable cars drawn up by the FIA (N-GT). � Electronic system: Any automatic or electronic chassis control system or function is forbidden even if it is fitted on the original car. This includes anti-lock braking system, traction control, damper, suspension or ride height adjustment, power braking, four-wheel steering, movable ballast in both categories as well as automatic or semi-automatic transmissions, power-driven clutches, electronically or automatically adjusted final drive differential systems in the GT category. Semi-automatic or automatic gearboxes and differentials with electronic, pneumatic or hydraulic slip control and closed-loop electronically controlled system are prohibited, unless they are fitted on the series vehicle homologated by the FIA or the list of acceptable cars drawn up by the FIA in the N-GT class. A simple open-loop electrical switch activated by the driver acting on a system is not considered to be an electronic control. Power steering may be employed as long as it is a simple system, without programmable control. � Bodywork dimensions: All bodywork dimensions and shape must remain original with the exception of alterations permitted under Article 3.6 (strengthening of the chassis and bodywork, rear wing, bodywork width, air inlets, etc) and those required by Article 3.51 (Between the front and rear wheel centre lines, all bodywork visible from directly beneath the car, with the exception of wheel arches and exhaust tunnels, must lie on one plane. This plane, called Flat Bottom or Reference Surface, must be a uniform, solid, hard, rigid (no degree of freedom in relation to the body/chassis unit), impervious surface, under all circumstances). � Minimum weight: The weight of the car must not be less than 1100 kg. � Engine: The make and type of engine used must remain original. � GT: The position of the engine is free provided the location and orientation remain original. The interior dimensions of the cockpit must remain original if the engine is re-positioned. � N-GT: Its location, position and orientation, but replacing the original mountings to the chassis is allowed. � Fuel capacity: the maximum amount of fuel, which may be carried on board, is 100 litres. � Transmission: The transmission system is free. � Brakes: The brake discs must be made from ferrous material. The use of titanium is authorised for the brake pistons. Any anti-lock braking function and any power braking function are forbidden. � Complete wheels dimensions: Maximum width: GT: 14 inches N-GT: 12 inches for a weight < 1300 kg 14 inches for a weight >= 1300 kg � Maximum diameter: 28 inches � The maximum authorised diameter of the rims is 18''

Now *here* is a series, and a sim, that deserves our support. Too bad the wordwide release got so delayed. Kendt - still anxiously awaiting my Drivers Emporium package...

[email hidden] wrote: > Now *here* is a series, and a sim, that deserves our support. Too bad > the wordwide release got so delayed. > Kendt - still anxiously awaiting my Drivers Emporium package... How delayed? I was under the impression international release was this month? Mitch -- Remove "nospam." to reply. SuSE 9.2 Pro KDE3.3.2a. YaSTastic!

Mitch_A wrote: > [email hidden] wrote: > > > Now *here* is a series, and a sim, that deserves our support. Toobad > > the wordwide release got so delayed. > > Kendt - still anxiously awaiting my Drivers Emporium package... > > How delayed? I was under the impression international release wasthis

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> month? > > Mitch > -- > Remove "nospam." to reply. > SuSE 9.2 Pro KDE3.3.2a. > YaSTastic!

I meant compared to the German version. I'll be pretty chapped if I see it in the store before my DE version gets here. At least its for a good cause. Kendt

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> > Mitch_A wrote: >> [email hidden] wrote: >> >> > Now *here* is a series, and a sim, that deserves our support. Too > bad >> > the wordwide release got so delayed. >> > Kendt - still anxiously awaiting my Drivers Emporium package... >> >> How delayed? I was under the impression international release was > this >> month? >> >> Mitch >> -- >> Remove "nospam." to reply. >> SuSE 9.2 Pro KDE3.3.2a. >> YaSTastic! > > I meant compared to the German version. I'll be pretty chapped if I > see it in the store before my DE version gets here. At least its for a > good cause. > > Kendt

I sure hope either GTR or R-Factor come soon. Im drooling bad and need a fix soon :-) Mitch -- Remove "nospam." to reply. SuSE 9.2 Pro KDE3.3.2a. YaSTastic!

GTR isn't hard to order and you will have 99% of the game is English, why wait? Chad -- "Mitch_A" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:n2VFd.11380$[email hidden]... > [email hidden] wrote: > >> >> Mitch_A wrote: >>> [email hidden] wrote: >>> >>> > Now *here* is a series, and a sim, that deserves our support. Too >> bad >>> > the wordwide release got so delayed. >>> > Kendt - still anxiously awaiting my Drivers Emporium package... >>> >>> How delayed? I was under the impression international release was >> this >>> month? >>> >>> Mitch >>> -- >>> Remove "nospam." to reply. >>> SuSE 9.2 Pro KDE3.3.2a. >>> YaSTastic! >> >> I meant compared to the German version. I'll be pretty chapped if I >> see it in the store before my DE version gets here. At least its for a >> good cause. >> >> Kendt > > I sure hope either GTR or R-Factor come soon. Im drooling bad and need a > fix soon :-) > > Mitch > -- > Remove "nospam." to reply. > SuSE 9.2 Pro KDE3.3.2a. > YaSTastic!

"Chad Rogers" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]... > GTR isn't hard to order and you will have 99% of the game is English, why > wait? > Because there is less than 3 weeks to the release of the English version. Marni

>> GTR isn't hard to order and you will have 99% of the game is English, why >> wait? >> > > Because there is less than 3 weeks to the release of the English version. That's news to me. Last I heard it was possibly going to be released in late February. The problem with the German version is that every time a new patch is released you have to wait a week or two for a new English patch.

"Damien Smith" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]...

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>>> GTR isn't hard to order and you will have 99% of the game is English, >>> why wait? >>> >> >> Because there is less than 3 weeks to the release of the English version. > > That's news to me. Last I heard it was possibly going to be released in > late February. The problem with the German version is that every time a > new patch is released you have to wait a week or two for a new English > patch. > >

Not too mention a week or 2 for a patch to fix what the last patch screwed up! :)

> Not too mention a week or 2 for a patch to fix what the last patch > screwed up! :) True, but at least they're trying and this is their first game so I'm prepared to cut them a little slack.

On Sun, 16 Jan 2005 10:02:44 +1000, "Damien Smith" <[email hidden]> wrote something like:

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>>> GTR isn't hard to order and you will have 99% of the game is English, why >>> wait? >>> >> Because there is less than 3 weeks to the release of the English version. > >That's news to me. Last I heard it was possibly going to be released in >late February. The problem with the German version is that every time a new >patch is released you have to wait a week or two for a new English patch.

Ummm... what? I've only used one english patch so far, and it has worked with all GTR pathces, including the latest (1.2.3.0). BTW, I ordered my copy from amazon.de in November... didn't want to wait for the 1Q/2005 release. The local publisher/distributor (PanVision) said something about late February... -- - Jussi Koukku -

> Ummm... what? I've only used one english patch so far, and it has > worked with all GTR pathces, including the latest (1.2.3.0). Only the basic game.dic would possibly be capable of working with all versions (I strongly doubt it) and even it has been updated by some people to work with the 1.1 and then again for the 1.2 patch. An updated game.dic only makes the game about 70% english. All of the loading/menu screens are packed into files which have changed quite considerably with each patch and there's no possible way that they could work unless you extracted them and injected them manually into the new files.

On Mon, 17 Jan 2005 19:39:18 +1000, "Damien Smith" <[email hidden]> wrote something like:

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>> Ummm... what? I've only used one english patch so far, and it has >> worked with all GTR pathces, including the latest (1.2.3.0). > >Only the basic game.dic would possibly be capable of working with all >versions (I strongly doubt it) and even it has been updated by some people >to work with the 1.1 and then again for the 1.2 patch. An updated game.dic >only makes the game about 70% english. All of the loading/menu screens are >packed into files which have changed quite considerably with each patch and >there's no possible way that they could work unless you extracted them and >injected them manually into the new files.

Yes, you're right, with the new GTR patched I indeed have one "R�ck" button instead of a "Back/Return" button. And some track loading screens say "Lade" and "Rennen" instead of "Loading" and "Race". I don't know how I've managed to play the "german" GTR without waiting two weeks for a updated translation after each patch... ;) -- - Jussi Koukku -

> Yes, you're right, with the new GTR patched I indeed have one "R�ck" > button instead of a "Back/Return" button. And some track loading > screens say "Lade" and "Rennen" instead of "Loading" and "Race". > > I don't know how I've managed to play the "german" GTR without waiting > two weeks for a updated translation after each patch... ;) Probably not a big deal for people in non-english speaking countries as I'm sure they're used to having a mish-mash of languages on TV, games etc. I'd prefer to own a 100% english version but maybe I'm weird.

"Damien Smith" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]...

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>> Not too mention a week or 2 for a patch to fix what the last patch >> screwed up! :) > > True, but at least they're trying and this is their first game so I'm > prepared to cut them a little slack. > >

Sure - lets face it, we're volunteer beta testers. I have my doubts it will be quite were I'd like it to be in a month but 1.23 has certainly made it useable at least. It's easy to have been spoilt by all the Papy polish over the years. :)

On Tue, 18 Jan 2005 20:06:17 +1000, "Damien Smith" <[email hidden]> wrote something like:

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>> Yes, you're right, with the new GTR patched I indeed have one "R�ck" >> button instead of a "Back/Return" button. And some track loading >> screens say "Lade" and "Rennen" instead of "Loading" and "Race". >> >> I don't know how I've managed to play the "german" GTR without waiting >> two weeks for a updated translation after each patch... ;) > >Probably not a big deal for people in non-english speaking countries as I'm >sure they're used to having a mish-mash of languages on TV, games etc. I'd >prefer to own a 100% english version but maybe I'm weird.

So it's a matter of a personal preference. When you said that you have to wait for a new language patch after each GTR patch, it sounded like it's impossible for you to play the german version in the meanwhile... -- - Jussi Koukku -

> So it's a matter of a personal preference. When you said that you have > to wait for a new language patch after each GTR patch, it sounded like > it's impossible for you to play the german version in the meanwhile... Well, I wouldn't exactly call language a 'personal preference' Maybe it is for some multilingual people...

http://www.asrg.org/gtr/gtr.html "Damien Smith" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]...

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>> So it's a matter of a personal preference. When you said that you have >> to wait for a new language patch after each GTR patch, it sounded like >> it's impossible for you to play the german version in the meanwhile... > > Well, I wouldn't exactly call language a 'personal preference' Maybe it > is for some multilingual people... >

On Wed, 19 Jan 2005 22:18:31 +1000, "Damien Smith" <[email hidden]> wrote something like: >Well, I wouldn't exactly call language a 'personal preference' I wouldn't exactly call patched GTR a german game if it has one button with an arrow labeled "r�ck" instead of "back", and everything else in english. If this prohibits you from playing the game until you get that updated english patch with the "back" button, then yes, I call it a personal preference. Anyway, I don't think this language issue is big enough to postpone ordering GTR until english version is released. GTR is just that good :) -- - Jussi Koukku -

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>>Well, I wouldn't exactly call language a 'personal preference' > > I wouldn't exactly call patched GTR a german game if it has one button > with an arrow labeled "r�ck" instead of "back", and everything else in > english. If this prohibits you from playing the game until you get > that updated english patch with the "back" button, then yes, I call it > a personal preference. > > Anyway, I don't think this language issue is big enough to postpone > ordering GTR until english version is released. GTR is just that good

A proper english update for 1.2 is now available. :)