Re: SB Live! owners READ THIS!

On Fri, 26 May 2000 19:14:44 -0400, "Dave St.Onge" <[email hidden]> wrote: >What about a network card and a usb port?? My computer freezes basically >when I'm using the keyboard, and at no other time, and I've already verified >that the other parts of my computer are not on the same IRQ.... I've never seen a network card share an IRQ without wigging out. If the net card is in the slot next to the AGP port, get it out of there. AGP and PCI one share resources. The last PCI slot shares resources with the ISA bus. Don't use that slot if you have any ISA devices. Tim

Yessssssssss!!!!!!!! All this time I thought it was my video card. I will have to change this and see if it works. Not enough IRQs! Thanks, Jeff "Sober" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:8gm6dl$27h$[email hidden]... > I've come across a problem that seems to occur on many different systems > running a SB Live! (Value, Platinum, whatever) and a network adapter > (LAN-ethernet card). The SB and the LAN card may NOT share one IRQ. Ifthey

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> do, frequent lockups will occur whenever you play games 3D intensive games > (happened with N3, Panzer Elite, Spirit of Speed, MGPRS, Driver...). Other > hardware doesn't seem to care for a shared IRQ, but these two seem to hate > each other very much. > > MeatWater > [email hidden] > www.meatwater.de > > >

Mine like to fight over IRQ 9. The trick to splitting them up is to assign that IRQ to ISA in the BIOS, then re-boot. This splits them up. You can then re-enable the IRQ. Tim On Fri, 26 May 2000 17:49:39 +0200, "Sober" <[email hidden]> wrote:

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>I've come across a problem that seems to occur on many different systems >running a SB Live! (Value, Platinum, whatever) and a network adapter >(LAN-ethernet card). The SB and the LAN card may NOT share one IRQ. If they >do, frequent lockups will occur whenever you play games 3D intensive games >(happened with N3, Panzer Elite, Spirit of Speed, MGPRS, Driver...). Other >hardware doesn't seem to care for a shared IRQ, but these two seem to hate >each other very much. > >MeatWater >[email hidden] >www.meatwater.de > >

I've come across a problem that seems to occur on many different systems running a SB Live! (Value, Platinum, whatever) and a network adapter (LAN-ethernet card). The SB and the LAN card may NOT share one IRQ. If they do, frequent lockups will occur whenever you play games 3D intensive games (happened with N3, Panzer Elite, Spirit of Speed, MGPRS, Driver...). Other hardware doesn't seem to care for a shared IRQ, but these two seem to hate each other very much. MeatWater [email hidden] www.meatwater.de

I have a SB Live! X-Gamer and an ethernet card, but the ethernet card uses a different IRQ (9) than the X-Gamer (10). However, my usb port (which I don't use) uses the same IRQ as the ethernet card. With my freezes, it appears that the problem is related to the keyboard somehow, as my computer only freezes when I am using the keyboard. For example, if I use my steering wheel in N3, I can race all day long (and have), yet sometimes it will freeze during a replay when I am using the keyboard. In addition, it also freezes when I'm working in autocad, or even using Outlook Express. In addition, it also freezes when I play Unreal Tournament, or Half Life, or Thief, once again, when I'm moving around with the keyboard. I even went so far as to purchase a new keyboard, but the problem still persists....and I know it's not a heating problem... Nec 400 mhz win 98 96 mb ram sb live x-gamer voodoo 3-2000 Dave "Sober" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:8gm6dl$27h$[email hidden]... > I've come across a problem that seems to occur on many different systems > running a SB Live! (Value, Platinum, whatever) and a network adapter > (LAN-ethernet card). The SB and the LAN card may NOT share one IRQ. Ifthey

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> do, frequent lockups will occur whenever you play games 3D intensive games > (happened with N3, Panzer Elite, Spirit of Speed, MGPRS, Driver...). Other > hardware doesn't seem to care for a shared IRQ, but these two seem to hate > each other very much. > > MeatWater > [email hidden] > www.meatwater.de > > >

It is a really bad idea for ANY sound card and network card to share an IRQ. Lock-ups would be expected if they did share one. Marc. "Sober" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:8gm6dl$27h$[email hidden]... > I've come across a problem that seems to occur on many different systems > running a SB Live! (Value, Platinum, whatever) and a network adapter > (LAN-ethernet card). The SB and the LAN card may NOT share one IRQ. Ifthey

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> do, frequent lockups will occur whenever you play games 3D intensive games > (happened with N3, Panzer Elite, Spirit of Speed, MGPRS, Driver...). Other > hardware doesn't seem to care for a shared IRQ, but these two seem to hate > each other very much. > > MeatWater > [email hidden] > www.meatwater.de > > >

What about a network card and a usb port?? My computer freezes basically when I'm using the keyboard, and at no other time, and I've already verified that the other parts of my computer are not on the same IRQ.... Dave "Marc Collins" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:kmDX4.107$[email hidden]... > It is a really bad idea for ANY sound card and network card to share anIRQ.

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> Lock-ups would be expected if they did share one. > > Marc. > > "Sober" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > news:8gm6dl$27h$[email hidden]... > > I've come across a problem that seems to occur on many different systems > > running a SB Live! (Value, Platinum, whatever) and a network adapter > > (LAN-ethernet card). The SB and the LAN card may NOT share one IRQ. If > they > > do, frequent lockups will occur whenever you play games 3D intensive

games > > (happened with N3, Panzer Elite, Spirit of Speed, MGPRS, Driver...).Other > > hardware doesn't seem to care for a shared IRQ, but these two seem tohate

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> > each other very much. > > > > MeatWater > > [email hidden] > > www.meatwater.de > > > > > > > >

It does on both of my motherboards, Colin (an Epox Super Socket 7 and an Abit slot 1). If you have a spare PCI slot now, you might have an easy fix. The Voodoo2 doesn't use an IRQ. Put the Voodoo in there, and leave slot next to the AGP port open. I didn't have the free slot, so I put my V2 in the first PCI slot, and my SCSI card co-habitates nicely with my ISA modem in the last PCI slot. All I use my SCSI card for is a CDRW, though. Good luck! Tim On Sat, 27 May 2000 11:40:04 GMT, [email hidden] (colin brown) wrote:

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>Does the last PCI slot share with ISA on all mobos, I know about AGP >and PCI 1, but ive never heard about the ISA bus and the last PCI >before. is this a standard thing on all chipsets, for slot 1, super >socket 7 etc. > >I have occasional hickups with my system that could be caused by this >PCI/ISA conflict - sometimes crashes when using cdrom - SCSI card on >last PCI slot!! > >i had to do plenty of muckin about to get the sblive and the awe to >work together. (for music) > >and i still sometimes have problems with gpl trying to use the awe > >{ >celeron 500 >lx board >sblive >voodoo2 >tnt1 >SCSI card >SB AWE gold > >win98 1 >} >(no network card) > >TIA > >col

Does the last PCI slot share with ISA on all mobos, I know about AGP and PCI 1, but ive never heard about the ISA bus and the last PCI before. is this a standard thing on all chipsets, for slot 1, super socket 7 etc. I have occasional hickups with my system that could be caused by this PCI/ISA conflict - sometimes crashes when using cdrom - SCSI card on last PCI slot!! i had to do plenty of muckin about to get the sblive and the awe to work together. (for music) and i still sometimes have problems with gpl trying to use the awe { celeron 500 lx board sblive voodoo2 tnt1 SCSI card SB AWE gold win98 1 } (no network card) TIA col On Fri, 26 May 2000 19:29:26 -0400, Tim O. <[email hidden]> wrote:

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>On Fri, 26 May 2000 19:14:44 -0400, "Dave St.Onge" ><[email hidden]> wrote: > >>What about a network card and a usb port?? My computer freezes basically >>when I'm using the keyboard, and at no other time, and I've already verified >>that the other parts of my computer are not on the same IRQ.... > >I've never seen a network card share an IRQ without wigging out. >If the net card is in the slot next to the AGP port, get it out of >there. AGP and PCI one share resources. >The last PCI slot shares resources with the ISA bus. Don't use that >slot if you have any ISA devices. > >Tim >

thanks, thanks, i'll give it a go next time i'm in there... col

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> I've come across a problem that seems to occur on many different systems > running a SB Live! (Value, Platinum, whatever) and a network adapter > (LAN-ethernet card). The SB and the LAN card may NOT share one IRQ. If they > do, frequent lockups will occur whenever you play games 3D intensive games > (happened with N3, Panzer Elite, Spirit of Speed, MGPRS, Driver...). Other > hardware doesn't seem to care for a shared IRQ, but these two seem to hate > each other very much.

it's not the hardware: it's the SB-drivers ... I have seldom found drivers/cards that fully meet the PCI-specifications, so I always use one interrupt per card - works if you only have 4 cards that need an IRQ - in my case AGP graphics card, network-card, sb live, isdn-card. with win98 you may have to disable the use of ACPI (somewhere in you devicemanager under IRQ-Holder ...) to assign the IRQs within the devicemanager. Lio

> Does the last PCI slot share with ISA on all mobos, I know about AGP > and PCI 1, but ive never heard about the ISA bus and the last PCI > before. is this a standard thing on all chipsets, for slot 1, super > socket 7 etc. every mobo-manufacturer assigns them in a different way ... if you have a mobo with 1 AGP and 6 PCI, you have to try different slot combinations until every card that needs an IRQ got its very own one (check with systeminformation/conflicts in windows). the german magazine c't had a very good article regarding the "IRQ dilemma" in the latest issue. Lio