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Anyone tried this card? GF 6600 AGP?

7 posts by 5 people · 17 Jan 2005 17:56 UTC - 24 Jan 2005 16:03 UTC

Plowboy2 17 Jan 2005 17:56 UTC#26631
He all, I been contemplating a newer card lately, replacing my 4600 TI 128 card, without breaking the bank that is. this card seems to be around $200 US-dollars, and yes I am at the moment leery of ati, because of want to try Linux and the fact I love GPL still. But here seems to be one catch, it says agp8x, all my MB supports is 4x. Most sites don't have a great return policy, and nothing local to walk in and buy with hopes of returning... anyone know if I can expect this to run or not? It would seem that it should fall back? I did go through the faq at one MFG, seems you could end up in agp4x mode, but the faq is almost generic, and not specific to the 6600 (or 6600 gt cards). Second of all by the looks of things I haven't found any reviews of the AGP version specifically, would love to see if the Horse Power of this card is at least what I have now with my higher-end-but-older Geforce4 card? I am seriously not too interested in spending 200 bucks just to be exactly where I am performance wise, lol... Lastly anyone interested in this ol 4600 if I do find out what I need to let me try the newer card? it is an Xtasy, ti4600 128 ram, I still have the box and the manual, and I hope the disk, but I DO NOT have the accessory (svideo cable/ video out cable? I think it was) as I never had it.
George 18 Jan 2005 04:35 UTC↳ reply to Plowboy2#26647
They are actually pretty good cards. You will be quite happy with the performance of the card. Don't worry about the AGP 4X/8X issue. Your card will simple default to 4X. I must say though that if your mainboard can only handle 4X, then it won't be long before you are upgrading that and if you do , then you are going to get caught with and AGP card. All new boards are coming out with a PCI Express slot on the video side. Looks like its time to go the whole hog and upgrade your entire PC.
In article <csi3mk$13m$[email hidden]>, [email hidden] says...
Quoted text (7 lines)> They are actually pretty good cards. You will be quite happy with the > performance of the card. Don't worry about the AGP 4X/8X issue. Your card > will simple default to 4X. I must say though that if your mainboard can > only handle 4X, then it won't be long before you are upgrading that and if > you do , then you are going to get caught with and AGP card. All new boards > are coming out with a PCI Express slot on the video side. Looks like its > time to go the whole hog and upgrade your entire PC.
1) There is no apparent (or noticeable) performance difference between AGP 4x and AGP 8X. 2) All new boards are most certainly NOT coming out with PCI-e. In fact, the few PCI-e boards being made are only just now showing up in the retail channel. I would say that some new boards are coming out, but certainly not "all". 3) AGP is gonna be around for a few more years so there's no reason to panic yourself into buying PCI-e equipment just yet.
John Simmons wrote:
Quoted text (26 lines)> In article <csi3mk$13m$[email hidden]>, [email hidden] > says... > >>They are actually pretty good cards. You will be quite happy with the >>performance of the card. Don't worry about the AGP 4X/8X issue. Your card >>will simple default to 4X. I must say though that if your mainboard can >>only handle 4X, then it won't be long before you are upgrading that and if >>you do , then you are going to get caught with and AGP card. All new boards >>are coming out with a PCI Express slot on the video side. Looks like its >>time to go the whole hog and upgrade your entire PC. > > > > 1) There is no apparent (or noticeable) performance difference between > AGP 4x and AGP 8X. > > 2) All new boards are most certainly NOT coming out with PCI-e. In fact, > the few PCI-e boards being made are only just now showing up in the > retail channel. I would say that some new boards are coming out, but > certainly not "all". > > 3) AGP is gonna be around for a few more years so there's no reason to > panic yourself into buying PCI-e equipment just yet. > > >
oh and some for the motherboard makers have already demoed boards with both PCI-E and AGP - ideal for upgrading in the future :) 6600GT is the best bang for buck card out at the moment. -- (clear the weather to reply)
> oh and some for the motherboard makers have already demoed boards with > both PCI-E and AGP - ideal for upgrading in the future :) > If you read the specs, the AGP slot on those boards is only AGP 1X - that means that they are just basic PCI slots with AGP interface. That is the case in at least 2 boards I have read the specs of, but I do not remember which make/model they were. > 6600GT is the best bang for buck card out at the moment. Yep, both PCI-E and AGP. -- Mika Takala
In article <4rsId.1657$[email hidden]>, [email hidden] says...
Quoted text (8 lines)> > oh and some for the motherboard makers have already demoed boards with > > both PCI-E and AGP - ideal for upgrading in the future :) > > > > If you read the specs, the AGP slot on those boards is only AGP 1X - that > means that they are just basic PCI slots with AGP interface. That is the > case in at least 2 boards I have read the specs of, but I do not remember > which make/model they were.
Yeah, I've seen that, too. I wonder what technical hurdle exists that precludes them from doing a real AGP slot instead of the half-assed ones they implement on the dual format boards...
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Quoted text (9 lines)>> If you read the specs, the AGP slot on those boards is only AGP 1X - that >> means that they are just basic PCI slots with AGP interface. That is the >> case in at least 2 boards I have read the specs of, but I do not remember >> which make/model they were. > > Yeah, I've seen that, too. I wonder what technical hurdle exists that > precludes them from doing a real AGP slot instead of the half-assed ones > they implement on the dual format boards... >
The technical hurdle is that the chipsets only support PCI and PCI-E and not accelerated AGP. The trick that motherboard manufacturers are trying now is to convert on PCI slot to AGP interface, but not real AGP speed. The reason behind the restrictions on chipsets, is money. Chipset manufacturers are trying to sell new technology at a larger profit, and disabling the older technology functions will sell more new technology. -- Mika Takala

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