F1WGP My Opinion

Only played it for about an hour, took me a while to set my wheel up and I have not got it just as I want it yet but good enough to play the game for now. Let me start by saying, I bought F1 2000 and started out thinking it was a decent game although it runs like shit on my P2 233, V3 2000 system. Unfortunately the more I played it the more I got to dislike it, off my hardrive forever ( or at least till I get a P3 700+). I also bought OFR1 but eventually canned it due to the lack of challenge in the physics side of it although the rest of the game was good. F1WGP is good, really good. Running at 1024 x 768 all detail to full, its smooth as silk. Limitless views including an awesome helmet/ visor view, very nice graphics, fast loading times and a fair physics model. I say fair because it is probaly not 100% realistic but it is challenging and very enjoyable to drive indeed, take a corner too fast or turn in too violently or brake too late and you will lose it and be off with damage if you hit an obstacle, gear down too fast too early you will lock up. Someone else said that the sound was the best they had heard in an F1 game and I totally agree, it`s nice, you can even hear the wind rushing over the car. If it is the same as OFR1`s sound it will change when in clean or dirty air of somone slipstream etc... I cannot comment on the A1 as yet as I have only run in practice, but the rest of the game looks good so far. Ok forgot the setup options etc.. they are there, albeit not as detailed as F1 2000`s but there is enough to tweak. My opinion is this game blows F1 2000 away big time up to now, I will be there waiting to get my hands on a copy of this ASAP and hope others will feel the same, and if the Multiplayer is good this will be king. I know I have droned on here but I hope this will help people who are not sure wheather to download the demo or not. Please post your opinions of this game so I can see how others feel. Snake.

Is a demo available? Where? Thanks, Andre

Andre I got it from here: ftp://ftp.eidos.co.uk/pub/uk/f1wgp_99/demos/F1WGP_DEMO.exe Snake.

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>Is a demo available? Where? >Thanks, >Andre >>Please post your opinions of this game so I can see how others feel. >>Snake.

Is a demo available? Where? Thanks, Andre On Fri, 02 Jun 2000 10:41:22 GMT, "Snake" <[email hidden]> wrote: >Please post your opinions of this game so I can see how others feel. > >Snake. > >

Perhaps I'm | one of the few people that likes the feel of F12000 (perhaps it has | everything to do with processor power and turning down a few sliders) You are not alone! I think it is great too.....although it is that bit too jerky on my machine at the minute Ash http://www.race-timing.com

It`s funny a lot of people with different system specs are getting different results with F1 2000 and F1GP. I agree with you that F1 2000 has a better physics engine but I am going to get more pleasure from F1WGP as it runs so much better on my machine. The more laps I put in the more it feels better, after playing one sim for a while, changing to another is a big adjustment and the feel of the game is bound to be different. It took me quite some time to get my Wheel working how I wanted it to but now my setup is good for the game. I don`t think the spins etc.. are canned, I think it is just easier to loose it as the controls don`t feel as tight as F1 2000. Maybe this will be similar in the fact that some people will love it and others will not. Thanks for your input and good luck with F1 2000. Rod Prince wrote in message ...

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>In article <mbMZ4.978$[email hidden]>, >[email hidden] says... > >Wow. It's amazing how two people can have two totally different opinions. >Ironically, I've had F1-2000 for a week and almost exclusively running >laps at Suzuka. I'm running a V3 on a P733 and F12000 is *smooth*. > >Compared it to F1WGP, this thing is plain *ugly* to me. The control was >abominable, I was spinning off the track in a canned fashion for no >particular reason, there was no way I could see that you could possibly >catch one of these spins. I prefer the track graphics of F12000 but the >backgrounds on F1WGP looked good. The framerate on my machine was >noticably choppy, reminded me of that motion capture bathurst simulator >that would display chunks of the track instead of a smooth frame rate >(and this was at 800x600). > >The only redeaming feature in the whole demo was what appeared to be the >ability to jump in the cockpit at any time during a replay and take >control of the car, sort of like a rewind button. This would be *sweet* >for learning how to take a particular corner without having to run >another lap. > >I'm going to give it a few more laps before I decide whether I obliterate >it from my hdd, but at the moment, I don't like its chances. Perhaps I'm >one of the few people that likes the feel of F12000 (perhaps it has >everything to do with processor power and turning down a few sliders) and >it is head and shoulders to the feel I get from F1WGP right at this >moment. > >Cheers, >Rod.

Andre I got it from here: ftp://ftp.eidos.co.uk/pub/uk/f1wgp_99/demos/F1WGP_DEMO.exe Snake. Andre Warringa wrote in message <[email hidden]>...

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>Is a demo available? Where? > >Thanks, >Andre > >On Fri, 02 Jun 2000 10:41:22 GMT, "Snake" <[email hidden]> >wrote: > >>Please post your opinions of this game so I can see how others feel. >> >>Snake. >> >> >

Hi All.. Despite all the negative 'stuff' this game has received at F12k 'High Gear forum' I think the game F12000 is really an very good game, I have a Athlon 650 so I guess its all to do with processor power, I have all the settings maxed...and its excellent, looking foreward to many an hour thrashing 'round those modern tracks....usually my game of choice is GPL, F12000 makes a pleasing change, I would recomend this game to anyone who likes GPL. Cheers leesee 'BAD news 'bout WSC' "Ashley McConnell" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:8h8ijl$5ca$[email hidden]...

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> Perhaps I'm > | one of the few people that likes the feel of F12000 (perhaps it has > | everything to do with processor power and turning down a few sliders) > > You are not alone! > > I think it is great too.....although it is that bit too jerky on my

machine > at the minute > > Ash > http://www.race-timing.com > >

In article <mbMZ4.978$[email hidden]>, [email hidden] says... > My opinion is this game blows F1 2000 away big time up to now, I will be > there waiting to get my hands on a copy of this ASAP and hope others will > feel the same, and if the Multiplayer is good this will be king. > I know I have droned on here but I hope this will help people who are not > sure wheather to download the demo or not. > Please post your opinions of this game so I can see how others feel. Wow. It's amazing how two people can have two totally different opinions. Ironically, I've had F1-2000 for a week and almost exclusively running laps at Suzuka. I'm running a V3 on a P733 and F12000 is *smooth*. Compared it to F1WGP, this thing is plain *ugly* to me. The control was abominable, I was spinning off the track in a canned fashion for no particular reason, there was no way I could see that you could possibly catch one of these spins. I prefer the track graphics of F12000 but the backgrounds on F1WGP looked good. The framerate on my machine was noticably choppy, reminded me of that motion capture bathurst simulator that would display chunks of the track instead of a smooth frame rate (and this was at 800x600). The only redeaming feature in the whole demo was what appeared to be the ability to jump in the cockpit at any time during a replay and take control of the car, sort of like a rewind button. This would be *sweet* for learning how to take a particular corner without having to run another lap. I'm going to give it a few more laps before I decide whether I obliterate it from my hdd, but at the moment, I don't like its chances. Perhaps I'm one of the few people that likes the feel of F12000 (perhaps it has everything to do with processor power and turning down a few sliders) and it is head and shoulders to the feel I get from F1WGP right at this moment. Cheers, Rod.

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> It`s funny a lot of people with different system specs are getting different > results with F1 2000 and F1GP. > I agree with you that F1 2000 has a better physics engine but I am going to > get more pleasure from F1WGP as it runs so much better > on my machine. The more laps I put in the more it feels better, after > playing one sim for a while, changing to another is a big adjustment > and the feel of the game is bound to be different. It took me quite some > time to get my Wheel working how I wanted it to but now my setup is good for > the game. I don`t think the spins etc.. are canned, > I think it is just easier to loose it as the controls don`t feel as tight as > F1 2000. > Maybe this will be similar in the fact that some people will love it and > others will not. > Thanks for your input and good luck with F1 2000.

I ran some more laps. I got a *lot* better feeling the second time around, I found that it was spinning me due to the braking aid being on (which I thought was a little silly, but anyway). Felt alot better the second time around. I then jumped into F12000 and the sensation of speed was so much greater. I also couldn't get used to the view shifting before you turn into the corner, was very disorienting, I assume due to never having this feature either enabled or available in any other sim I've driven. Still couldn't catch a spin because my ass had swapped ends with my front in very few frames, and before I could tell what was going on. I'm not so harsh on the game now, I'm sure there are a fair number of people who will like the sim and it would seem in your case, particularly those with a lower spec machine. When I first installed F12000, it was jerky+, adjusting a few sliders and turning off mirrors gives me 45fps on full grid, mid 30's if I'm lower in the pack. I'm not sure what fps I'm getting on F1WGP, but it doesn't feel constantly fluid. Cheers, Rod.

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> Hi All.. > Despite all the negative 'stuff' this game has received at F12k 'High Gear > forum' I think the game F12000 is really an very good game, I have a Athlon > 650 so I guess its all to do with processor power, I have all the settings > maxed...and its excellent, looking foreward to many an hour thrashing 'round > those modern tracks....usually my game of choice is GPL, F12000 makes a > pleasing change, I would recomend this game to anyone who likes GPL

The only major gripe I have with F12000 is the AI. Thankfully I'm spared the bonehead AI that some people are experiencing, doing laps around Suzuka, the only time I'm punted is on my own mistake, otherwise, they've reacted as I thought they would. Unfortunately, when they either make a pass, coming out of a hairpin, or racing down the straight, they weave all over the racing line. I've managed to download a nice collection of onboard fast laps from footage of either this years current GP season, or last years, and I can pick and anticipate corners and gears while the footage is running, from that I feel I can come to the conclusion that the tracks and relative power of the cars that I drive are close enough to reality for me. Cheers, Rod.

Have you installed the 1.06 patch? That solves almost all AI problems especially if you run at 100% or greater. Iain Rod Prince <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:MPG.13a2cca2b8173ece9896ba@news-server... > In article <8h912o$iuu$[email hidden]>, [email hidden] > says... > > Hi All.. > > Despite all the negative 'stuff' this game has received at F12k 'HighGear > > forum' I think the game F12000 is really an very good game, I have aAthlon > > 650 so I guess its all to do with processor power, I have all thesettings > > maxed...and its excellent, looking foreward to many an hour thrashing'round

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> > those modern tracks....usually my game of choice is GPL, F12000 makes a > > pleasing change, I would recomend this game to anyone who likes GPL > > The only major gripe I have with F12000 is the AI. Thankfully I'm spared > the bonehead AI that some people are experiencing, doing laps around > Suzuka, the only time I'm punted is on my own mistake, otherwise, they've > reacted as I thought they would. Unfortunately, when they either make a > pass, coming out of a hairpin, or racing down the straight, they weave > all over the racing line. > > I've managed to download a nice collection of onboard fast laps from > footage of either this years current GP season, or last years, and I can > pick and anticipate corners and gears while the footage is running, from > that I feel I can come to the conclusion that the tracks and relative > power of the cars that I drive are close enough to reality for me. > > Cheers, > Rod.

This is weird Rod. I used to get the effects you are mentioning, i.e. AI spinning out and fishing over the road when on a straight, but ever since I patched it none of these things happen! Iain Rod Prince <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:MPG.13a4e2c79dd3659896c2@news-server...

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> In article <Urn_4.3556$[email hidden]>, > [email hidden] says... > > Have you installed the 1.06 patch? That solves almost all AI problems > > especially if you run at 100% or greater. > > Running at 100% at the moment. All I've ever had is the 1.06 patch. > Bought it after reading good reports on it. > > I find often that if 2 AI are duking it out, and I come from behind, when > we take a corner to gun down a straight the AI sandwiched in the middle > will often slow to let me pass easily. > > AI also seem to fish over the road trying to pick a line from time to > time, particularly on a straight. > > There also appear to be spots on a few tracks where the AI will spin > often. But on the whole, I'm very happy with the sim. Perfecting my laps > at the moment, and replay manager is an exceptional tool to find out > where I'm losing seconds... > > Cheers, > Rod.

In article <Urn_4.3556$[email hidden]>, [email hidden] says... > Have you installed the 1.06 patch? That solves almost all AI problems > especially if you run at 100% or greater. Running at 100% at the moment. All I've ever had is the 1.06 patch. Bought it after reading good reports on it. I find often that if 2 AI are duking it out, and I come from behind, when we take a corner to gun down a straight the AI sandwiched in the middle will often slow to let me pass easily. AI also seem to fish over the road trying to pick a line from time to time, particularly on a straight. There also appear to be spots on a few tracks where the AI will spin often. But on the whole, I'm very happy with the sim. Perfecting my laps at the moment, and replay manager is an exceptional tool to find out where I'm losing seconds... Cheers, Rod.