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Re: left foot braking

21 posts by 17 people · 02 Jun 2000 - 05 Jun 2000 02:14 UTC

Is left-foot braking worth learning in sims?

A player who found left-foot braking awkward asked if it was worth persevering. Most said yes, citing faster reactions and the ability to stabilise the car under power, and many said it felt natural in sims even though they never did it in road cars.

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1.30 is slow F**k better get practising more. -- Thanks Kieran Larkin www.PCracing.co.uk for the best racing news <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]... > What is the scoop on left foot braking? I've heard it is the way to go > so I finally hooked some CH USB Pro pedals to my LWFF. I found it very > weird to brake with the left foot. It didn't feel like driving to me > and i couldn't keep the car on the track, but I'm sure I can get used > to it. The question is how long does it take to relearn this stuff and > is it worth it. I don't have time to race as much as I'd like and my > PB's are pretty slow. Monza 1:30.xx; Spa 3:31.xx; WG 1:07.xx.
The Mighty Puck 02 Jun 2000 15:49 UTC#265793
What is the scoop on left foot braking? I've heard it is the way to go so I finally hooked some CH USB Pro pedals to my LWFF. I found it very weird to brake with the left foot. It didn't feel like driving to me and i couldn't keep the car on the track, but I'm sure I can get used to it. The question is how long does it take to relearn this stuff and is it worth it. I don't have time to race as much as I'd like and my PB's are pretty slow. Monza 1:30.xx; Spa 3:31.xx; WG 1:07.xx.
Andrew Turner 02 Jun 2000 16:11 UTC#265794
The real trouble is when you, as I have, use the pedals for flying too, then try to turn left by applying the brake..... Andrew [email hidden] wrote:
Quoted text (7 lines)> What is the scoop on left foot braking? I've heard it is the way to go > so I finally hooked some CH USB Pro pedals to my LWFF. I found it very > weird to brake with the left foot. It didn't feel like driving to me > and i couldn't keep the car on the track, but I'm sure I can get used > to it. The question is how long does it take to relearn this stuff and > is it worth it. I don't have time to race as much as I'd like and my > PB's are pretty slow. Monza 1:30.xx; Spa 3:31.xx; WG 1:07.xx.
Kurt Steinbock 02 Jun 2000 16:27 UTC#265796
[email hidden] wrote in message <[email hidden]>... >What is the scoop on left foot braking? I've heard it is the way to go >so I finally hooked some CH USB Pro pedals to my LWFF. I found it very It's a skill worth learning. Not only will your times improve, but you'll find a little dab of brakes can work wonders in restoring control when you start to lose it under accelleration. Hang in there. Now, if we could only covert Eldred! Regards, Kurt
Kevin Gavitt 02 Jun 2000 19:34 UTC#265837
<[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]...
Quoted text (7 lines)> What is the scoop on left foot braking? I've heard it is the way to go > so I finally hooked some CH USB Pro pedals to my LWFF. I found it very > weird to brake with the left foot. It didn't feel like driving to me > and i couldn't keep the car on the track, but I'm sure I can get used > to it. The question is how long does it take to relearn this stuff and > is it worth it. I don't have time to race as much as I'd like and my > PB's are pretty slow. Monza 1:30.xx; Spa 3:31.xx; WG 1:07.xx.
I don't know. I got hell over coming out in favor of left foot braking in a real car with an automatic a couple of weeks ago. I think I'll just sit this one out. :)
Simon Brown 02 Jun 2000 20:12 UTC#265830
It's definitley worth learning, because the reaction time is so much quicker. If you need to use the brakes in a hurry you can do. Once you're used to it, it feels natural.
Don Scurlock 02 Jun 2000 20:20 UTC#265739
[email hidden] (Kevin Gavitt) wrote in <o%TZ4.5806$[email hidden]>:
Quoted text (9 lines)> ><[email hidden]> wrote in message >news:[email hidden]... >> What is the scoop on left foot braking? I've heard it is the way to go >> so I finally hooked some CH USB Pro pedals to my LWFF. I found it very >> weird to brake with the left foot. It didn't feel like driving to me >> and i couldn't keep the car on the track, but I'm sure I can get used >> to it. The question is how long does it take to relearn this stuff and >> is it worth it.
Not that long, and yes it is worth it. >I don't know. I got hell over coming out in favor of left foot braking in a >real car with an automatic a couple of weeks ago. I think I'll just sit this >one out. :) Left foot braking has a bad rap on the street, mostly because the people who do it badly go around advertising themselves by having their brake lights on all the time. -- Don Scurlock Vancouver,B.C.
The Mighty Puck 02 Jun 2000 21:53 UTC#265774
Actually I'm even slower than that. My PB is about a second better than a good normal lap. And that is in the lotus which i don't drive anymore (well not now but i will go back to it--when gplea finishes their udate--smile) I'm much happier with my spa results (brahbam). went from 3:40 to 3:38 to 3:34 to 3:31 in about a week. Problem is my average lap is much worse if I take no risks: slow through masta, brake straight and early at la source and real gentle through that nasty downhill right left (eau rouge?) just after the start. I figure I can get to 3:25 in about a week and then stay there forever :-) On Fri, 2 Jun 2000 21:33:36 +0100, "Kieran Larkin" <[email hidden]> wrote:
Quoted text (17 lines)>1.30 is slow F**k better get practising more. > >-- >Thanks >Kieran Larkin >www.PCracing.co.uk for the best racing news ><[email hidden]> wrote in message >news:[email hidden]... >> What is the scoop on left foot braking? I've heard it is the way to go >> so I finally hooked some CH USB Pro pedals to my LWFF. I found it very >> weird to brake with the left foot. It didn't feel like driving to me >> and i couldn't keep the car on the track, but I'm sure I can get used >> to it. The question is how long does it take to relearn this stuff and >> is it worth it. I don't have time to race as much as I'd like and my >> PB's are pretty slow. Monza 1:30.xx; Spa 3:31.xx; WG 1:07.xx. > >
Admin 03 Jun 2000#265624
I'm from the US and we left foot brake over here, even in our real cars...lol No, left foot braking IS the only way to go in oval racing when drafting, because you have to brake while holding the throttle wide open in the draft. Else you get dropped, very quickly. Even when not in the draft, it helps cornering by keeping the engines momentum built up by keeping the accelerator 75-100% and dragging the brakes to set the car up for the corner. Some places if you lift to brake, it will actually upset the cars balance and bring the rear end around on you quickly (California, Vegas, Homestead, etc in N3) if your going as fast as you should down the straights. Anywho, my 2 cents, don't race much open wheel sims so take it for what its worth. Tim Vanhee <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:z45_4.46496$[email hidden]...
Quoted text (10 lines)> > UnserFan1 <[email hidden]> schreef in berichtnieuws > [email hidden]... > > left-foot braking is less fuel-efficient according to former IMSA champ > Steve > > Millen in R&T's test of the CLK-GTR (Nov. 98)... > > I don't care since fuel is for free in most sims :) > >
EldredP 03 Jun 2000#265681
In article <0gRZ4.5$[email hidden]>, "Kurt Steinbock" <[email hidden]> writes:
Quoted text (12 lines)>[email hidden] wrote in message ><[email hidden]>... >>What is the scoop on left foot braking? I've heard it is the way to go >>so I finally hooked some CH USB Pro pedals to my LWFF. I found it very > > >It's a skill worth learning. Not only will your times improve, but you'll >find a little dab of brakes can work wonders in restoring control when you >start to lose it under accelleration. Hang in there. > >Now, if we could only covert Eldred! >
Hey - I *heard* that! <g> Eldred -- Tiger Stadium R.I.P. 1912-1999 Homepage - http://www.umich.edu/~epickett Own Grand Prix Legends? http://www.vroc.net Never argue with an idiot. He brings you down to his level, then beats you with experience... Remove SPAM-OFF to reply.
UnserFan1 03 Jun 2000#265703
left-foot braking is less fuel-efficient according to former IMSA champ Steve Millen in R&T's test of the CLK-GTR (Nov. 98)...i also have heard that Juan Montoya (who's definitely FAST) and Alex Zanardi are right-foot brakers...i also know that Al Unser, Jr. and Jimmy Vasser are left-foot brakers as well as i believe most formula one drivers...personally, i right-foot brake on my TM NASCAR Pro...i only left-foot brake when i run in traffic on an oval...drive my street w/ right-foot braking only God bless, Loren
Graeme Nash 03 Jun 2000#265717
>1.30 is slow F**k better get practising more. What's your PB then? :-) -- Cheers! Graeme Nash
James Pickard 03 Jun 2000 07:17 UTC#265795
I think you had better learn :-) James <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]...
Quoted text (7 lines)> What is the scoop on left foot braking? I've heard it is the way to go > so I finally hooked some CH USB Pro pedals to my LWFF. I found it very > weird to brake with the left foot. It didn't feel like driving to me > and i couldn't keep the car on the track, but I'm sure I can get used > to it. The question is how long does it take to relearn this stuff and > is it worth it. I don't have time to race as much as I'd like and my > PB's are pretty slow. Monza 1:30.xx; Spa 3:31.xx; WG 1:07.xx.
Rod Prince 03 Jun 2000 12:12 UTC#265761
In article <[email hidden]>, [email hidden] says...
Quoted text (7 lines)> What is the scoop on left foot braking? I've heard it is the way to go > so I finally hooked some CH USB Pro pedals to my LWFF. I found it very > weird to brake with the left foot. It didn't feel like driving to me > and i couldn't keep the car on the track, but I'm sure I can get used > to it. The question is how long does it take to relearn this stuff and > is it worth it. I don't have time to race as much as I'd like and my > PB's are pretty slow. Monza 1:30.xx; Spa 3:31.xx; WG 1:07.xx.
I've always left foot braked in my sims which started roughly about the same time I started driving real cars. Strangely enough, left foot braking in a car seems completely unnatural to me, just as right foot braking in a racing sim seems completely unnatural to me. Keep at it, because it makes things like trail braking much easier. Cheers, Rod.
Tim Vanhee 03 Jun 2000 12:27 UTC#265718
UnserFan1 <[email hidden]> schreef in berichtnieuws [email hidden]... > left-foot braking is less fuel-efficient according to former IMSA champSteve > Millen in R&T's test of the CLK-GTR (Nov. 98)... I don't care since fuel is for free in most sims :)
Jeffrey Jobb 04 Jun 2000 03:36 UTC#265586
Rod Prince <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:MPG.13a2cd9448f5947b9896bb@news-server...
Quoted text (19 lines)> In article <[email hidden]>, > [email hidden] says... > > What is the scoop on left foot braking? I've heard it is the way to go > > so I finally hooked some CH USB Pro pedals to my LWFF. I found it very > > weird to brake with the left foot. It didn't feel like driving to me > > and i couldn't keep the car on the track, but I'm sure I can get used > > to it. The question is how long does it take to relearn this stuff and > > is it worth it. I don't have time to race as much as I'd like and my > > PB's are pretty slow. Monza 1:30.xx; Spa 3:31.xx; WG 1:07.xx. > > I've always left foot braked in my sims which started roughly about the > same time I started driving real cars. Strangely enough, left foot > braking in a car seems completely unnatural to me, just as right foot > braking in a racing sim seems completely unnatural to me. > > Keep at it, because it makes things like trail braking much easier. > > Cheers, > Rod.
That is exactly the same way I feel, I dont think I could sim race without using my left foot. And I have never used my left foot for braking well driving my car.
Ryath 05 Jun 2000 01:14 UTC#265312
I've also driven all of my sims with left foot braking, ever since I got my steering wheel. As for street cars, when driving a manual, I use the right foot, when driving an automatic, I use either, just depends sometimes, like when in heavy traffic. Ryath
Jeff H. 05 Jun 2000 02:14 UTC#265289
A year ago I switched to left-foot braking (automatic) on the street. It's a lot faster accelerating from stop lights/signs. I think everyone in this NG has the sense not to drive around resting their feet on the brake pedal. A long time ago I saw some film of Hans Stuck's pedal work. Awesome. He used both left AND right-foot braking. His feet moved so fast it looked like a tap-dancer. -- Jeff Hartman DC_Johnny [email hidden] "Don Scurlock" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:8F4787DA3dscurlock@news... > [email hidden] (Kevin Gavitt) wrote in > <o%TZ4.5806$[email hidden]>: > > > >I don't know. I got hell over coming out in favor of left foot braking in a > >real car with an automatic a couple of weeks ago. I think I'll just sit this > >one out. :) > > Left foot braking has a bad rap on the street, mostly because the people who do > it badly go around advertising themselves by having their brake lights on all > the time. > > -- > Don Scurlock > Vancouver,B.C.

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