Re: GPL Rank - A Few Ideas

Murchman <[email hidden]> wrote: > Thanks Jim we will look into this. I have a feeling in just a couple of > short weeks you will see a lot of changes. As it stands right now GPL rank > is only a couple of weeks old so you can see the progress thats been made. I would like to see a ranking based on average speed, rather than absolute times. In its present state the Spa and Ring times have way to much influence, IMHO. Everything else is perfect:) -- --------------------------------------------------------------------------- "Worueber man nicht reden kann, darueber muss man schweigen."(Wittgenstein) --------------------------------------------------------------------------- Andreas Kroell alias [email hidden]

Firstly let me say that I thouroughly enjoy the GPL Rank idea and web site and as it's a free service I have no right to demand anything from it's creators. I am actually forever in debt to them for allowing a bug which showed me as the ninth best GPL driver in the world, till I was stupid enough to question it;-) I do have a couple of ideas that would add a bit more interest to the site though: 1) A list of drivers from each country so we can see how we compare to our compatriots. 2) A seperate "league of nations" based on the average times of all the drivers from each country. 3) A list of times for each particular car and rankings for each car if the driver has times from all tracks. Chris * Sent from RemarQ http://www.remarq.com The Internet's Discussion Network * The fastest and easiest way to search and participate in Usenet - Free!

GPL rank is a great idea! It has a lot of potential too. I thought it would be cool if it could give us a class designation to make it easier to match up with others around your own speed. When races are up on Vroc, they could have a designation in the description of what class of drivers should enter. I didn''t think I would even show up in the ranking but was surprised that I'm #5 at the 'ring out of U.S. Brabham drivers :-) Jim D. Chris Bloom wrote in message <[email hidden]>...

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>Firstly let me say that I thouroughly enjoy the GPL Rank idea >and web site and as it's a free service I have no right to >demand anything from it's creators. > >I am actually forever in debt to them for allowing a bug which >showed me as the ninth best GPL driver in the world, till I was >stupid enough to question it;-) > >I do have a couple of ideas that would add a bit more interest >to the site though: > >1) A list of drivers from each country so we can see how we >compare to our compatriots. > >2) A seperate "league of nations" based on the average times of >all the drivers from each country. > >3) A list of times for each particular car and rankings for each >car if the driver has times from all tracks. > >Chris > >* Sent from RemarQ http://www.remarq.com The Internet's Discussion Network

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-- Jeff Murchison JR Screamers League Admin www.speakeasy.org/~jmurch/ Chris Bloom <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]... > Firstly let me say that I thouroughly enjoy the GPL Rank idea > and web site and as it's a free service I have no right to > demand anything from it's creators. > > I am actually forever in debt to them for allowing a bug which > showed me as the ninth best GPL driver in the world, till I was > stupid enough to question it;-) > > I do have a couple of ideas that would add a bit more interest > to the site though: > > 1) A list of drivers from each country so we can see how we > compare to our compatriots. Already working on this. > > 2) A seperate "league of nations" based on the average times of > all the drivers from each country. I will bring it up. > > 3) A list of times for each particular car and rankings for each > car if the driver has times from all tracks. Already working on this. > > Chris > > * Sent from RemarQ http://www.remarq.com The Internet's Discussion Network * > The fastest and easiest way to search and participate in Usenet - Free! >

Thanks Jim we will look into this. I have a feeling in just a couple of short weeks you will see a lot of changes. As it stands right now GPL rank is only a couple of weeks old so you can see the progress thats been made. -- Jeff Murchison JR Screamers League Admin www.speakeasy.org/~jmurch/ Jim Dombrowski <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:uss_4.111280$[email hidden]... > GPL rank is a great idea! It has a lot of potential too. I thought it would > be cool if it could give us a class designation to make it easier to match > up with others around your own speed. When races are up on Vroc, they could > have a designation in the description of what class of drivers should enter. > I didn''t think I would even show up in the ranking but was surprised that > I'm #5 at the 'ring out of U.S. Brabham drivers :-) > > Jim D. > > > Chris Bloom wrote in message > <[email hidden]>... > >Firstly let me say that I thouroughly enjoy the GPL Rank idea > >and web site and as it's a free service I have no right to > >demand anything from it's creators. > > > >I am actually forever in debt to them for allowing a bug which > >showed me as the ninth best GPL driver in the world, till I was > >stupid enough to question it;-) > > > >I do have a couple of ideas that would add a bit more interest > >to the site though: > > > >1) A list of drivers from each country so we can see how we > >compare to our compatriots. > > > >2) A seperate "league of nations" based on the average times of > >all the drivers from each country. > > > >3) A list of times for each particular car and rankings for each > >car if the driver has times from all tracks. > > > >Chris > > > >* Sent from RemarQ http://www.remarq.com The Internet's Discussion Network > * > >The fastest and easiest way to search and participate in Usenet - Free! > > > >

[email hidden] (Andreas Kroell) wrote in <8he02o$fe4$[email hidden]>: >I would like to see a ranking based on average speed, rather than absolute >times. In its present state the Spa and >Ring times have way to much influence, IMHO. Everything else is perfect:) Your point has been brought up before. There are so many different ways that we can compare ourselves. This particular scale is a guage of general/overall gpl competence, and the long tracks matter just as much as the shorter tracks. Until you've given enough to the game to be decent at ALL the tracks, this scale will punish you. The biggest variation for all of us will of course be on the long tracks, but it's the same for all of us. Spa and the Ring are great tracks Andrea, get practicing! -- Don Scurlock Vancouver,B.C. Come see how you rate, at the GPLRank site http://gplrank.schuerkamp.de/

[email hidden] (Jim Dombrowski) wrote in <uss_4.111280$[email hidden]>:

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>GPL rank is a great idea! It has a lot of potential too. I thought it would >be cool if it could give us a class designation to make it easier to match >up with others around your own speed. When races are up on Vroc, they could >have a designation in the description of what class of drivers should enter. > I didn't think I would even show up in the ranking but was surprised that >I'm #5 at the 'ring out of U.S. Brabham drivers :-) > > Jim D.

This is an excellent idea Jim, and it's something that can be implemented immediately, not by the GPLRank site, but by Vroc race hosts. All people need do is request a GPLRank range in the race description, eg: -20 to +20, or +150 to +200. Something like that. People that know what GPLRank is and have ranked themselves will know what it means. Should catch on. -- Don Scurlock Vancouver,B.C. Come see how you rate, at the GPLRank site http://gplrank.schuerkamp.de/

>Oh yeah, before I forget... bite me, asshole. Hehe, Go Simmons, Go Simmons, Go Simmons.... Life still treating you well John? :-) -- Cheers! Graeme Nash

We are working on a way to check for warps and remove them automatically but for the time being one of the administrators will have to go through and remove them. Thanks for your input, -- Jeff Murchison JR Screamers Racing League www.speakeasy.org/~jmurch/ "Hena H�kk�nen" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:8hg9h1$7o0$[email hidden]... > "Don Scurlock" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > news:8F4981FD6dscurlock@news... > > [email hidden] (Jim Dombrowski) wrote in > > <uss_4.111280$[email hidden]>: > > > > >GPL rank is a great idea! It has a lot of potential too. I thought it > would > > >be cool if it could give us a class designation to make it easier to > match > > >up with others around your own speed. When races are up on Vroc, they > could > > >have a designation in the description of what class of drivers should > enter. > > > I didn't think I would even show up in the ranking but was surprised > that > > >I'm #5 at the 'ring out of U.S. Brabham drivers :-) > > > > > > Jim D. > > > > This is an excellent idea Jim, and it's something that can be implemented > > immediately, not by the GPLRank site, but by Vroc race hosts. All people > need > > do is request a GPLRank range in the race description, eg: -20 to +20, or > +150 > > to +200. Something like that. People that know what GPLRank is and have > ranked > > themselves will know what it means. Should catch on. > > One thing though ... I noticed while checking other guys' best laps that > there's no error detection in GPL Ranks for warp times. For example, a > driver has his best training time of 1:27.11 in Monza, but a practice time > of 1:25.98!! I'm sorry, but now way! This obvious warp improves his ranking > by over a second ... and that's just one track. > > Could it be possible to compare lap times in individual player.ini files to > Schubi's world records or something, and ignore practice and race times that > are faster? just an idea ... > > Hena >

What does Raceserver have to do with GPL Rank? All we are doing is providing a ranking system for the GPL community, we are not doing anything else with it. It is up to the end users to decide what they want to do with the rankings. -- Jeff Murchison JR Screamers Racing League www.speakeasy.org/~jmurch/ "rik anthrax" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:x5Q_4.11795$[email hidden]... > What they have planned is better than what they > had before. > > Before spewing shit like that, be sure of what you're talking about. All > you did was succeed in making yourself look like a moron. > > >>>>>>>>>>> > > Hey moron, before spewing shit how bout finding out what your talking about. > Raceserver.net has messed up online racing for N3. There are massive issues > going on RIGHT NOW with privacy issues, password abuse, ejection abuse etc, > etc.so shut the fuck up and pay attention >

"Don Scurlock" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:8F4981FD6dscurlock@news... > [email hidden] (Jim Dombrowski) wrote in > <uss_4.111280$[email hidden]>: > > >GPL rank is a great idea! It has a lot of potential too. I thought itwould > >be cool if it could give us a class designation to make it easier tomatch > >up with others around your own speed. When races are up on Vroc, theycould > >have a designation in the description of what class of drivers shouldenter. > > I didn't think I would even show up in the ranking but was surprisedthat > >I'm #5 at the 'ring out of U.S. Brabham drivers :-) > > > > Jim D. > > This is an excellent idea Jim, and it's something that can be implemented > immediately, not by the GPLRank site, but by Vroc race hosts. All peopleneed > do is request a GPLRank range in the race description, eg: -20 to +20, or+150 > to +200. Something like that. People that know what GPLRank is and haveranked > themselves will know what it means. Should catch on. One thing though ... I noticed while checking other guys' best laps that there's no error detection in GPL Ranks for warp times. For example, a driver has his best training time of 1:27.11 in Monza, but a practice time of 1:25.98!! I'm sorry, but now way! This obvious warp improves his ranking by over a second ... and that's just one track. Could it be possible to compare lap times in individual player.ini files to Schubi's world records or something, and ignore practice and race times that are faster? just an idea ... Hena

After seeing the MESS raceserver.net caused with N3 rankings (not to mention impending intervention by papyrus) i dont think this is a good idea. rik

I'm trying to be more forthcoming, but considering I'm a godless ***, it's hard to really expose my sensitive side like this... :-) >Aw cmon John, tell us how you really feel, don't keep it bottled up :-) -- ========================================================= Redneck Techno-Biker (Zerex12) [link lost in import] Barbarian Diecast Collector (420+ cars and counting) [link lost in import] DeMONS Scheduler for N3 and NL http://www.paddedwall.org/demons If you want to send me email, go to the first URL shown above & click "Send Me Mail" in the contents frame. =========================================================

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Geez - I miss this stuff :-) "Graeme Nash"

[email hidden] (rik anthrax) wrote in <ieD_4.9270$[email hidden]>: >After seeing the MESS raceserver.net caused with N3 rankings (not to >mention impending intervention by papyrus) i dont think this is a >good idea. rik What's not a good idea Rik? -- Don Scurlock Vancouver,B.C. Come see how you rate, at the GPLRank site http://gplrank.schuerkamp.de/

[email hidden] (rik anthrax) wrote in <ieD_4.9270$[email hidden]>: > >After seeing the MESS raceserver.net caused with N3 rankings (not to >mention impending intervention by papyrus) i dont think this is a >good idea. rik > What the hell are you talking about? First, raceserver.net has no pending legal action from Papyrus. They're not doing anything wrong or contrary to the EULA. I think you're confusing them with OLR who claims to be providing server hardware for pay. Second, how can they mess up rankings when rankings don't otherwise exist? Their ranking system is their own. If you're speaking of the recent software re-write, they did that to make the ranking system better. Sure, lots of people lost what rankings they already had, but who really gives a shit? What they have planned is better than what they had before. Before spewing shit like that, be sure of what you're talking about. All you did was succeed in making yourself look like a moron. -- ========================================================= Redneck Techno-Biker (Zerex12) http://www.members.home.net/jms1/index.html Barbarian Diecast Collector (420+ cars and counting) http://members.home.net/jsimm/diecast_index.html DeMONS Scheduler for N3 and NL http://www.paddedwall.org/demons If you want to send me email, go to the first URL shown above & click "Send Me Mail" in the contents frame. =========================================================

John Simmons wrote: > Aw cmon John, tell us how you really feel, don't keep it bottled up :-) Beers and cheers (uncle) Goy "Team Mirage" http://www.teammirage.com/ "The Pits" http://www.theuspits.com/ * Spam is for losers who can't get business any other way * "Spamkiller" http://www.spamkiller.com

I'm trying to be more forthcoming, but considering I'm a godless prick, it's hard to really expose my sensitive side like this... :-) In article <[email hidden]>, [email hidden] says... >John Simmons wrote: >> > >Aw cmon John, tell us how you really feel, don't keep it bottled up :-) > > -- ========================================================= Redneck Techno-Biker (Zerex12) http://www.members.home.net/jms1/index.html Barbarian Diecast Collector (420+ cars and counting) http://members.home.net/jsimm/diecast_index.html DeMONS Scheduler for N3 and NL http://www.paddedwall.org/demons If you want to send me email, go to the first URL shown above & click "Send Me Mail" in the contents frame. =========================================================

What they have planned is better than what they had before. Before spewing shit like that, be sure of what you're talking about. All you did was succeed in making yourself look like a moron. >>>>>>>>>>> Hey moron, before spewing shit how bout finding out what your talking about. Raceserver.net has messed up online racing for N3. There are massive issues going on RIGHT NOW with privacy issues, password abuse, ejection abuse etc, etc.so shut the fuck up and pay attention

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>>What they have planned is better than what they >>had before. >> >>Before spewing shit like that, be sure of what you're >>talking about. All you did was succeed in making >>yourself look like a moron. > >Hey moron, before spewing shit how bout finding out what >your talking about. Raceserver.net has messed up online >racing for N3. There are massive issues going on RIGHT >NOW with privacy issues, password abuse, ejection abuse >etc, etc.so shut the fuck up and pay attention

The password and ejection abuse isn't because of something *they* did - it's because they assumed that everyone would be able to act like adults and play nice. It's certainly not their fault that some of the people that are making use of their software are somehow related to you (probably through inbreeding)... Oh yeah, before I forget... bite me, asshole. -- ========================================================= Redneck Techno-Biker (Zerex12) http://www.members.home.net/jms1/index.html Barbarian Diecast Collector (420+ cars and counting) http://members.home.net/jsimm/diecast_index.html DeMONS Scheduler for N3 and NL http://www.paddedwall.org/demons If you want to send me email, go to the first URL shown above & click "Send Me Mail" in the contents frame. =========================================================

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> >>Oh yeah, before I forget... bite me, asshole. > >Hehe, Go Simmons, Go Simmons, Go Simmons.... > >Life still treating you well John? :-) >

Yeah. Look for email about the current events... :-) -- ========================================================= Redneck Techno-Biker (Zerex12) http://www.members.home.net/jms1/index.html Barbarian Diecast Collector (420+ cars and counting) http://members.home.net/jsimm/diecast_index.html DeMONS Scheduler for N3 and NL http://www.paddedwall.org/demons If you want to send me email, go to the first URL shown above & click "Send Me Mail" in the contents frame. =========================================================

Geez - I miss this stuff :-) "Graeme Nash"

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> >Oh yeah, before I forget... bite me, asshole. > > Hehe, Go Simmons, Go Simmons, Go Simmons.... > > Life still treating you well John? :-) > > -- > Cheers! > Graeme Nash

>Geez - I miss this stuff :-) <sniff>... Still got that Monaco replay :-) -- Cheers! Graeme Nash

John Simmons wrote: > > I'm trying to be more forthcoming, but considering I'm a godless prick, > it's hard to really expose my sensitive side like this... Naa, you're just a big softy John, those of us who have you seen you around for a while knows this all too well....:-))) Beers and cheers (uncle) Goy "Team Mirage" http://www.teammirage.com/ "The Pits" http://www.theuspits.com/ * Spam is for losers who can't get business any other way * "Spamkiller" http://www.spamkiller.com

In article <[email hidden]>, [email hidden] says... > >>Geez - I miss this stuff :-) > ><sniff>... Still got that Monaco replay :-) > I'm gonna go back and watch that one myself... :-) One of the truly great moments in IGPS, and probably the closest finish in any GPL race... :-) -- ========================================================= Redneck Techno-Biker (Zerex12) http://www.members.home.net/jms1/index.html Barbarian Diecast Collector (420+ cars and counting) http://members.home.net/jsimm/diecast_index.html DeMONS Scheduler for N3 and NL http://www.paddedwall.org/demons If you want to send me email, go to the first URL shown above & click "Send Me Mail" in the contents frame. =========================================================

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>John Simmons wrote: >> >> I'm trying to be more forthcoming, but considering I'm a godless >> prick, it's hard to really expose my sensitive side like this... > >Naa, you're just a big softy John, those of us who have you seen you >around for a while knows this all too well....:-)))

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>I do have a couple of ideas that would add a bit more interest >to the site though: >1) A list of drivers from each country so we can see how we >compare to our compatriots. >2) A seperate "league of nations" based on the average times of >all the drivers from each country. >3) A list of times for each particular car and rankings for each >car if the driver has times from all tracks.

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> >Naa, you're just a big softy John, those of us who have you seen you > >around for a while knows this all too well....:-))) > John maybe a big softy alright, but just stay away from his cornflakes! ;-) -- Richard "ZZ" Busch Official member: Screamers Racing League Sim Racing Mag Honda Challenge Sim Racing Mag F2 Ferrari ---------------- Busch Motorsports: Remember racecar is racecar spelled backward ----------------- Busch Carpentry: Plans?, Oh, you mean that napkin sketch?

Sorry Don, I should have deleted the previous message as you had already replied to it. The only new idea was #4, and yes I did mean a rank based on all cars at all tracks, and yes I doubt many people (if any) have done a time at all the circuits in all the cars. Chris -- Citylab Durban www.citylab.com Tel:(+27 31) 309 2944 Faxl:(+27 31) 309 2933 Don Scurlock <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:8F4BE92B2dscurlock@news... [email hidden] (Chris Bloom) wrote in <[email hidden]>: >In article <[email hidden]>, Chris >Bloom <[email hidden]> wrote: > >> >>I do have a couple of ideas that would add a bit more interest >>to the site though: >> >>1) A list of drivers from each country so we can see how we >>compare to our compatriots. You can do this now. Check out Multiple Choice Hell. >>2) A seperate "league of nations" based on the average times of >>all the drivers from each country. You can seperate drivers into country with Multiple Choice Hell, but at the moment only one country at a time. >>3) A list of times for each particular car and rankings for each >>car if the driver has times from all tracks. Multiply Choice Hell will let you select chassis, track, and country, then let you ask for the lap time or the GPLRank rating. >4) A rank based on all cars on all circuits Not sure what you mean by this. Very few people have put in a lap time with every car at every circuit. You can check this for each person by looking at "Their best laps", where you see the time for every car and every track they have done. Don Scurlock Vancouver,B.C. Come see how you rate, at the GPLRank site http://gplrank.schuerkamp.de/

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> >I do have a couple of ideas that would add a bit more interest >to the site though: > >1) A list of drivers from each country so we can see how we >compare to our compatriots. > >2) A seperate "league of nations" based on the average times of >all the drivers from each country. > >3) A list of times for each particular car and rankings for each >car if the driver has times from all tracks.

4) A rank based on all cars on all circuits > >Chris > >* Sent from RemarQ http://www.remarq.com The Internet'sDiscussion Network * >The fastest and easiest way to search and participate inUsenet - Free! > > * Sent from RemarQ http://www.remarq.com The Internet's Discussion Network * The fastest and easiest way to search and participate in Usenet - Free!

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>In article <[email hidden]>, Chris >Bloom <[email hidden]> wrote: > >> >>I do have a couple of ideas that would add a bit more interest >>to the site though: >> >>1) A list of drivers from each country so we can see how we >>compare to our compatriots.

You can do this now. Check out Multiple Choice Hell. >>2) A seperate "league of nations" based on the average times of >>all the drivers from each country. You can seperate drivers into country with Multiple Choice Hell, but at the moment only one country at a time. >>3) A list of times for each particular car and rankings for each >>car if the driver has times from all tracks. Multiply Choice Hell will let you select chassis, track, and country, then let you ask for the lap time or the GPLRank rating. >4) A rank based on all cars on all circuits Not sure what you mean by this. Very few people have put in a lap time with every car at every circuit. You can check this for each person by looking at "Their best laps", where you see the time for every car and every track they have done. Don Scurlock Vancouver,B.C. Come see how you rate, at the GPLRank site http://gplrank.schuerkamp.de/

On Wed, 7 Jun 2000 10:00:27 +0200 Citylab Durban (Chris Bloom) <[email hidden]> wrote: % Sorry Don, I should have deleted the previous message as you had already % replied to it. The only new idea was #4, and yes I did mean a rank based on % all cars at all tracks, and yes I doubt many people (if any) have done a % time at all the circuits in all the cars. And for me some of those tracks with other cars were just tests to see how I liked the feel of another car at a certain track. I certainly didn't spend anytime setting up the car or even bothering to get a handle on it. So why would I want those time to reflect my overall ranking? -- **************************** Michael E. Carver ************************* Upside out, or inside down...False alarm the only game in town. [email hidden] http://www.teleport.com/~mcarver =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=<[ /./. [- < ]>=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=

Well my thought was that it would be in addition to the current GPL-Rank for those who have sad enough lives <G> to have driven all tracks with all cars! It could be called the "I really should get out more" ranking. <G> Chris In article <qws%4.8082$[email hidden]>, "Michael E. Carver" [email hidden] wrote: > >And for me some of those tracks with other cars were just teststo see >how I liked the feel of another car at a certain track. Icertainly >didn't spend anytime setting up the car or even bothering toget a >handle on it. So why would I want those time to reflect myoverall >ranking? > >-- >**************************** Michael E. Carver************************* > Upside out, or inside down...False alarm the only game intown. > [email hidden] http://www.teleport.com/~mcarver >=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=<[ /./. [- < ]>=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= > > * Sent from RemarQ http://www.remarq.com The Internet's Discussion Network * The fastest and easiest way to search and participate in Usenet - Free!

I agree the ring has a big influence, but, it is also regarded as the greatest track. Only a handful of drivers mastered the ring, and they were invariably the best of their day. Ability at the ring can be a good barometer of driving talent. -- -Ace- Andreas Kroell <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:8he02o$fe4 > I would like to see a ranking based on average speed, rather than absolute times. In its present state the Spa and > Ring times have way to much influence, IMHO. Everything else is perfect:) >

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>Well my thought was that it would be in addition to the current >GPL-Rank for those who have sad enough lives <G> to have driven >all tracks with all cars! > >It could be called the "I really should get out more" ranking. ><G> > >Chris

Well your in some very well respected company Chris, as Greger Huttu is one of the few who has in a(fast)lap in every car at every track. As I mentioned "Their best laps" will show this for a particular driver. Keep in mind the corner stone of the scale, those original 11 replays. That they exist, frozen in time, allows the scale to be anchored so solidly, and in a way we can all relate to. There is no existing standard for an "every car" scale. You could use world record times, but they keep moving. You'd need to create a new benchmark. -- Don Scurlock Vancouver,B.C. Come see how you rate, at the GPLRank site http://gplrank.schuerkamp.de/

I havn't done laps in all cars at all tracks myself, as the scatterings of <G>'s in my last post suggest it wasn't really meant to be that serious. Thanks for your reply though Don and I get your point about the benchmark and it does sound a sillier idea the more I think about it. Just think though, instead of being minutes behind Greger, I could be hours behind him (7 cars x 11 tracks = BIG GAP) :) Chris In article <8F4C78256dscurlock@news>, [email hidden] (Don Scurlock) wrote:

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>[email hidden] (Chris Bloom) wrote in ><[email hidden]>: > >>Well my thought was that it would be in addition to the current >>GPL-Rank for those who have sad enough lives <G> to have driven >>all tracks with all cars! >> >>It could be called the "I really should get out more" ranking. >><G> >> >>Chris > >Well your in some very well respected company Chris, as Greger

Huttu is >one of the few who has in a(fast)lap in every car at everytrack. As I >mentioned "Their best laps" will show this for a particulardriver. > Keep in mind the corner stone of the scale, those original 11 >replays. That they exist, frozen in time, allows the scale tobe >anchored so solidly, and in a way we can all relate to. Thereis no >existing standard for an "every car" scale. You could use worldrecord >times, but they keep moving. You'd need to create a newbenchmark.

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> >-- >Don Scurlock >Vancouver,B.C. > >Come see how you rate, at the GPLRank site >http://gplrank.schuerkamp.de/ > >

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On Wed, 07 Jun 2000 10:20:46 -0700, Chris Bloom <[email hidden]> wrote:

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>Well my thought was that it would be in addition to the current >GPL-Rank for those who have sad enough lives <G> to have driven >all tracks with all cars! > >It could be called the "I really should get out more" ranking. ><G> > >Chris

Here's a word from THE KREATOR. You are right. ;-) Another Screamer member (Bill Tillman) suggested the implementation of classes (300-200, 200-100, 100-0, 0- -20 and so on) which sounds like another interesting idea. What do you think? Uwe -- Uwe Schuerkamp //////////////////////////// http://www.schuerkamp.de/ Herford, Germany \\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\ (52.0N/8.5E) Ever wondered what's wrong with the world? http://bnetwork.com/ PGP Fingerprint: 2E 13 20 22 9A 3F 63 7F 67 6F E9 B1 A8 36 A4 61

In article <8hg9h1$7o0$[email hidden]>, "Hena H�kk�nen" <[email hidden]> writes: >One thing though ... I noticed while checking other guys' best laps that >there's no error detection in GPL Ranks for warp times. For example, a >driver has his best training time of 1:27.11 in Monza, but a practice time >of 1:25.98!! I'm sorry, but now way! This obvious warp improves his ranking >by over a second ... and that's just one track. > That could be valid. In training, there are no other cars on the track. In practice for a race, you could catch a draft from another car... Eldred -- Tiger Stadium R.I.P. 1912-1999 Homepage - http://www.umich.edu/~epickett Own Grand Prix Legends? http://www.vroc.net Never argue with an idiot. He brings you down to his level, then beats you with experience... Remove SPAM-OFF to reply.

In article <[email hidden]>, Chris Bloom <[email hidden]> writes:

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>> >>I do have a couple of ideas that would add a bit more interest >>to the site though: >> >>1) A list of drivers from each country so we can see how we >>compare to our compatriots. >> >>2) A seperate "league of nations" based on the average times of >>all the drivers from each country. >> >>3) A list of times for each particular car and rankings for each >>car if the driver has times from all tracks. > >4) A rank based on all cars on all circuits

Geez, my time is ALREADY limited... I only have times for all tracks with only two marques. Eldred -- Tiger Stadium R.I.P. 1912-1999 Homepage - http://www.umich.edu/~epickett Own Grand Prix Legends? http://www.vroc.net Never argue with an idiot. He brings you down to his level, then beats you with experience... Remove SPAM-OFF to reply.