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Slightly OT F1 start at Monaco yesterday

8 posts by 8 people · 05 Jun 2000 09:01 UTC - 09 Jun 2000 02:25 UTC

LL 05 Jun 2000 09:01 UTC#265256
Yesterday at the start of the F1 race in Monaco, on the 2nd start a computer failure activated the red flag procedure and the race stopped for a 3rd start. Okay, computers are crashing sometimes, we all know that, I will not do the usual Microsoft jokes we all know. 4 drivers stalled the engines due to a small crash AFTER the red flag (like 20 seconds after), they had to run back to the pits, climb into their T-Cars...AND START FROM THE PITS... So the question is : Since the faulty computer if FIA operated, it is a FIA mistake Why do drivers have to suffer from a FIA mistake ? DIscussion opened
Jan Verschueren 05 Jun 2000 11:50 UTC#265263
The implications of a code red should be common knowledge among teams. Therefore , when the accident occurred, there was ample time for the teams to prepare a spare car and for the driver to get back to the pits (about 20 minutes). If a spare was still available it would have suffised to tell the driver to stall the car, leave it for what is was and get back to the pits pronto. BAR managed to put two cars on the grid in the same time Benetton only managed to get Wurz to the end of the pitlane (and they had the whole of the 2nd start procedure to prepare a spare as well). Once a new start time is announced the pitlane closes a certain time before that (5 mins?), a fact which should also be common knowledge among teams. Jan. =--- LL wrote...
Quoted text (8 lines)> <Snip> > So the question is : > Since the faulty computer if FIA operated, it is a FIA mistake > Why do drivers have to suffer from a FIA mistake ? > > DIscussion opened > >
Andrew Turner 05 Jun 2000 12:15 UTC#265201
Microsoft. Andrew LL wrote:
Quoted text (16 lines)> Yesterday at the start of the F1 race in Monaco, on the 2nd start a computer > failure activated the red flag procedure and the race stopped for a 3rd > start. > > Okay, computers are crashing sometimes, we all know that, I will not do the > usual Microsoft jokes we all know. > > 4 drivers stalled the engines due to a small crash AFTER the red flag (like > 20 seconds after), they had to run back to the pits, climb into their > T-Cars...AND START FROM THE PITS... > > So the question is : > Since the faulty computer if FIA operated, it is a FIA mistake > Why do drivers have to suffer from a FIA mistake ? > > DIscussion opened
Krakus 05 Jun 2000 16:08 UTC#265159
> 4 drivers stalled the engines due to a small crash AFTER the red flag(like > 20 seconds after), they had to run back to the pits, climb into their > T-Cars...AND START FROM THE PITS... No, I don't think so. According to the ITV coverage, the red flag was shown as a result of the crash at Loews, not before. The director at Monaco simply showed the incident as a replay after the flag. We didn't see it in the actual sequence that it happened. Incidentally, it's still unclear as to whose fault it was - but it seems that Pedro de la Rosa attempted an overly optimistic pass around the outside of Button at the hairpin, although there really wasn't enough room to do so.
Shaun Robinson 05 Jun 2000 17:10 UTC#265176
That's what i saw... Krakus wrote:
Quoted text (13 lines)> > > 4 drivers stalled the engines due to a small crash AFTER the red flag > (like > > 20 seconds after), they had to run back to the pits, climb into their > > T-Cars...AND START FROM THE PITS... > > No, I don't think so. According to the ITV coverage, the red flag was shown > as a result of the crash at Loews, not before. The director at Monaco simply > showed the incident as a replay after the flag. We didn't see it in the > actual sequence that it happened. Incidentally, it's still unclear as to > whose fault it was - but it seems that Pedro de la Rosa attempted an overly > optimistic pass around the outside of Button at the hairpin, although there > really wasn't enough room to do so.
Iain Mackenzie 06 Jun 2000 07:33 UTC#264991
>> as a result of the crash at Loews Tiny trivial point - its now called the Grand Hotel hairpin! Iain
Mark Rogers 08 Jun 2000#264385
If you like trivia, it used to be the Station Hairpin...And Anthony Noghes used to be called Gasworks. Anyone know why? Was there a station where the Grand Hotel now stands (previously Loews Hotel ;-) ) > >> as a result of the crash at Loews > > Tiny trivial point - its now called the Grand Hotel hairpin! > Iain > >
Robert Phelps 09 Jun 2000 02:25 UTC#264190
[email hidden] (Mark Rogers) wrote in <8hp6e6$b38$[email hidden]>: > >If you like trivia, it used to be the Station Hairpin...And Anthony Noghes >used to be called Gasworks. Anyone know why? Was there a station where the >Grand Hotel now stands (previously Loews Hotel ;-) ) I think there used to be a train station at that location.

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