GPL: Bragging

I don't brag much about my GPL laptimes... much :o) But here are some of my recent best laps: Brands Hatch 1:36.91 Kyalami 1:20.98 Mexico 1:48.99 Monaco 1:28.11 (tonight!) Monza 1:28.74 (left foot braking, only way at Monza) Osterreichring 1:47.46 Watkins Glen 1:05.58 Zandvoort 1:26.54 (my favourite circuit) All these times, with the exception of Monza were done with the default setup and using right foot braking. How good am I? :o) I'll upload some replays now to alt.binaries.simulators.autos... if you are more interested than that New Zealand girl was tonight... but that's another story! Rob

On Wed 07 Jun 2000 07:55:32am, Andre Warringa wrote:

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>On 7 Jun 2000 01:59:19 GMT, >[email hidden] (David Buttery) wrote: > >>http://www.parc-ferme.de/fastlaps.htm is Schubi's Hotlaps Site, >>which is where you can see the top 100 in each circuit. There are >>some *seriously* fast times there... Now, comparing your times with >>those: > >I think Rob will be quite depressed after reading your post, I know >I was...

<snip> I doubt it, actually. Remember, Rob was using the *default* setups everywhere but Monza. If a way could be found of verifying it, it might be interesting to have a hotlap league table for the default setups. In any case, I don't worry about someone like Rob beating me - he's a *real* racing driver, after all. It's when everyone else does I get depressed... -- David. "After all, a mere thousand yards - such a harmless little knoll, really." (Raymond Mays on Shelsley Walsh)

Yeah, I crashed at Brands Hatch on Saturday :o( Not too tricky, you get used to it. Doubt it, I wouldn't mind having a crack one of their races though. Unfortunataely I think you have to committ to at least 4 or more. That's a bit expensive. pez wrote:

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> you still racing formula fords? > > how tricky is heel and toeing consistently? > > entering the silverstone brdc fford scholership? > > pez > robswindells wrote in message <[email hidden]>... > >I don't brag much about my GPL laptimes... much :o) But here are some of > >my recent best laps: > > > >Brands Hatch 1:36.91 > >Kyalami 1:20.98 > >Mexico 1:48.99 > >Monaco 1:28.11 (tonight!) > >Monza 1:28.74 (left foot braking, only way at Monza) > >Osterreichring 1:47.46 > >Watkins Glen 1:05.58 > >Zandvoort 1:26.54 (my favourite circuit) > > > >All these times, with the exception of Monza were done with the default > >setup and using right foot braking. How good am I? :o) I'll upload some > >replays now to alt.binaries.simulators.autos... if you are more > >interested than that New Zealand girl was tonight... but that's another > >story! > > > >Rob > >

3:19.58 at Spa. I've done 17's/18's in the Eagle, but I only ever driver the Lotus nowadays! :o) David Buttery wrote:

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> On Tue 06 Jun 2000 11:45:17pm, robswindells wrote: > > >I don't brag much about my GPL laptimes... much :o) > > Of course not. None of us would ever sink so low as to brag about our > times (says the current world number 93 at Spa with a 3:19.07...). > > >But here are some of my recent best laps: > > http://www.parc-ferme.de/fastlaps.htm is Schubi's Hotlaps Site, which > is where you can see the top 100 in each circuit. There are some > *seriously* fast times there... Now, comparing your times with those: > > >Brands Hatch 1:36.91 > > 71st place. But then, only 73 people are on the table... > > >Kyalami 1:20.98 > > You need about half a second to get in the top 100. > > >Mexico 1:48.99 > > 78th place. > > >Monaco 1:28.11 (tonight!) > > 80th place. > > >Monza 1:28.74 > > You need 1:27.76 just to get on the top-100 board here... > > >Osterreichring 1:47.46 > > 96th place. > > >Watkins Glen 1:05.58 > > Hooray! Somewhere I'm faster than you, at last! (my PB is 1:05.47). But > to get back to the point: you need to be sub-1:05 to show up here. > > >Zandvoort 1:26.54 (my favourite circuit) > > You need another eight tenths to get into the top 100. > > >All these times, with the exception of Monza were done with the > >default setup and using right foot braking. How good am I? > > Better than me, that's for sure. What's your Spa PB, BTW? > > -- > David. > "After all, a mere thousand yards - such a harmless little knoll, > really." > (Raymond Mays on Shelsley Walsh)

Yeah, you need alot of balls for Curva Grande. I sometimes frighten myself with how late I brake going in there, but still somehow manage to make the turn. The Lesmos are tricky. Again you brake as late as you possibly dare, and of course a good exit from the 2nd is vital bacause there's a long straight after it. I'm just stating the obvious really, no real lesson in there... [email hidden] wrote:

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> You give lessons dude. I tried monza last night after a few days at > the ring and felt like my driving had improved. However the best I > could do was 1:31.24 in the brahbam. I guess all the time is gained > in the curva grande and the second lesmos? > > On Tue, 06 Jun 2000 23:45:17 +0100, robswindells > <[email hidden]> wrote: > > >I don't brag much about my GPL laptimes... much :o) But here are some of > >my recent best laps: > > > >Brands Hatch 1:36.91 > >Kyalami 1:20.98 > >Mexico 1:48.99 > >Monaco 1:28.11 (tonight!) > >Monza 1:28.74 (left foot braking, only way at Monza) > >Osterreichring 1:47.46 > >Watkins Glen 1:05.58 > >Zandvoort 1:26.54 (my favourite circuit) > > > >All these times, with the exception of Monza were done with the default > >setup and using right foot braking. How good am I? :o) I'll upload some > >replays now to alt.binaries.simulators.autos... if you are more > >interested than that New Zealand girl was tonight... but that's another > >story! > > > >Rob > >

why don't you download gregers setups and give them a go ? When you can do those times with default setups you could be in the top 10 if you drive gregers (or any other hotshoes) setups ... cheers, Alex

Because I want all the glory to myself :o) I don't want to share with Greger! Setting up a car takes a long time. I prefer to think about my braking, my line and my clipping points when I drive a circuit instead of "hmm, I need to go stiffer on the RF, the front roll bar could be softer"...etc. I'm not sure I could be in the top 10 anyway. It'd take time to adjust to someone elses setups, however good they are. Alexander Marx wrote: > why don't you download gregers setups and give them a go ? When you can do > those times with default setups you could be in the top 10 if you drive > gregers (or any other hotshoes) setups ... > > cheers, > Alex

I couldn't upload my files to alt.binaries.simulators.autos :o( Anyway the file was like 1.6MBs and no-one's THAT interested in my times :) However you can download my Monaco lap, as I am particularly proud of this one from http://swindells.virtualave.net/monaco.zip I can send you other laps by email if you request them privately.... BTW, http://swindells.virtualave.net will take you to a preview of my new site layout... very early stages though. robswindells wrote:

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> I don't brag much about my GPL laptimes... much :o) But here are some of > my recent best laps: > > Brands Hatch 1:36.91 > Kyalami 1:20.98 > Mexico 1:48.99 > Monaco 1:28.11 (tonight!) > Monza 1:28.74 (left foot braking, only way at Monza) > Osterreichring 1:47.46 > Watkins Glen 1:05.58 > Zandvoort 1:26.54 (my favourite circuit) > > All these times, with the exception of Monza were done with the default > setup and using right foot braking. How good am I? :o) I'll upload some > replays now to alt.binaries.simulators.autos... if you are more > interested than that New Zealand girl was tonight... but that's another > story! > > Rob

On Tue 06 Jun 2000 11:45:17pm, robswindells wrote: >I don't brag much about my GPL laptimes... much :o) Of course not. None of us would ever sink so low as to brag about our times (says the current world number 93 at Spa with a 3:19.07...). >But here are some of my recent best laps: http://www.parc-ferme.de/fastlaps.htm is Schubi's Hotlaps Site, which is where you can see the top 100 in each circuit. There are some *seriously* fast times there... Now, comparing your times with those: >Brands Hatch 1:36.91 71st place. But then, only 73 people are on the table... >Kyalami 1:20.98 You need about half a second to get in the top 100. >Mexico 1:48.99 78th place. >Monaco 1:28.11 (tonight!) 80th place. >Monza 1:28.74 You need 1:27.76 just to get on the top-100 board here... >Osterreichring 1:47.46 96th place. >Watkins Glen 1:05.58 Hooray! Somewhere I'm faster than you, at last! (my PB is 1:05.47). But to get back to the point: you need to be sub-1:05 to show up here. >Zandvoort 1:26.54 (my favourite circuit) You need another eight tenths to get into the top 100. >All these times, with the exception of Monza were done with the >default setup and using right foot braking. How good am I? Better than me, that's for sure. What's your Spa PB, BTW? -- David. "After all, a mere thousand yards - such a harmless little knoll, really." (Raymond Mays on Shelsley Walsh)

You give lessons dude. I tried monza last night after a few days at the ring and felt like my driving had improved. However the best I could do was 1:31.24 in the brahbam. I guess all the time is gained in the curva grande and the second lesmos? On Tue, 06 Jun 2000 23:45:17 +0100, robswindells <[email hidden]> wrote:

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>I don't brag much about my GPL laptimes... much :o) But here are some of >my recent best laps: > >Brands Hatch 1:36.91 >Kyalami 1:20.98 >Mexico 1:48.99 >Monaco 1:28.11 (tonight!) >Monza 1:28.74 (left foot braking, only way at Monza) >Osterreichring 1:47.46 >Watkins Glen 1:05.58 >Zandvoort 1:26.54 (my favourite circuit) > >All these times, with the exception of Monza were done with the default >setup and using right foot braking. How good am I? :o) I'll upload some >replays now to alt.binaries.simulators.autos... if you are more >interested than that New Zealand girl was tonight... but that's another >story! > >Rob >

you still racing formula fords? how tricky is heel and toeing consistently? entering the silverstone brdc fford scholership? pez robswindells wrote in message <[email hidden]>...

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>I don't brag much about my GPL laptimes... much :o) But here are some of >my recent best laps: > >Brands Hatch 1:36.91 >Kyalami 1:20.98 >Mexico 1:48.99 >Monaco 1:28.11 (tonight!) >Monza 1:28.74 (left foot braking, only way at Monza) >Osterreichring 1:47.46 >Watkins Glen 1:05.58 >Zandvoort 1:26.54 (my favourite circuit) > >All these times, with the exception of Monza were done with the default >setup and using right foot braking. How good am I? :o) I'll upload some >replays now to alt.binaries.simulators.autos... if you are more >interested than that New Zealand girl was tonight... but that's another >story! > >Rob >

On 7 Jun 2000 01:59:19 GMT, [email hidden] (David Buttery) wrote: >http://www.parc-ferme.de/fastlaps.htm is Schubi's Hotlaps Site, which >is where you can see the top 100 in each circuit. There are some >*seriously* fast times there... Now, comparing your times with those: I think Rob will be quite depressed after reading your post, I know I was... Rob, what's your time at the Ring? Andre

So what is your opinion of right foot braking? I've got a squash ball under my lwff pedals but i also own a set of ch pro usb pedals (i also have a paif of non usb ch pro pedals that i'll be happy to sell for cheap). I've been fighting the move to left foot braking and your times suggest to me I can continue to resist. Have you tried left foot? On Wed, 07 Jun 2000 08:36:45 +0100, robswindells <[email hidden]> wrote: >> >> >All these times, with the exception of Monza were done with the >> >default setup and using right foot braking. How good am I? >>

No time at the Ring though. Nothing to brag about there eh? -- -Ace- (8:31.14) robswindells <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]... > I don't brag much about my GPL laptimes... much :o) But here are some of > my recent best laps: > > Brands Hatch 1:36.91 > Kyalami 1:20.98 > Mexico 1:48.99 > Monaco 1:28.11 (tonight!) > Monza 1:28.74 (left foot braking, only way at Monza) > Osterreichring 1:47.46 > Watkins Glen 1:05.58 > Zandvoort 1:26.54 (my favourite circuit) <snip>

In article <[email hidden]>, robswindells <[email hidden]> writes

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>I don't brag much about my GPL laptimes... much :o) But here are some of >my recent best laps: > >Brands Hatch 1:36.91 >Kyalami 1:20.98 >Mexico 1:48.99 >Monaco 1:28.11 (tonight!) >Monza 1:28.74 (left foot braking, only way at Monza) >Osterreichring 1:47.46 >Watkins Glen 1:05.58 >Zandvoort 1:26.54 (my favourite circuit) > >All these times, with the exception of Monza were done with the default >setup and using right foot braking. How good am I? :o) I'll upload some >replays now to alt.binaries.simulators.autos... if you are more >interested than that New Zealand girl was tonight... but that's another >story! > >Rob >

Ok Rob, I take it that if you're using defaults with the Lotus then this means a full fuel load, but what version of GPL? Is it 1.2? -- Peter Ives - (AKA Ivington) No person's opinions can be said to be more correct than another's, because each is the sole judge of his or her own experience.

v1.2 but no, not with a full fuel load, that's just silly :o) I set the steering lock to 18 too. Peter Ives wrote:

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> In article <[email hidden]>, robswindells > <[email hidden]> writes > >I don't brag much about my GPL laptimes... much :o) But here are some of > >my recent best laps: > > > >Brands Hatch 1:36.91 > >Kyalami 1:20.98 > >Mexico 1:48.99 > >Monaco 1:28.11 (tonight!) > >Monza 1:28.74 (left foot braking, only way at Monza) > >Osterreichring 1:47.46 > >Watkins Glen 1:05.58 > >Zandvoort 1:26.54 (my favourite circuit) > > > >All these times, with the exception of Monza were done with the default > >setup and using right foot braking. How good am I? :o) I'll upload some > >replays now to alt.binaries.simulators.autos... if you are more > >interested than that New Zealand girl was tonight... but that's another > >story! > > > >Rob > > > > Ok Rob, I take it that if you're using defaults with the Lotus then this > means a full fuel load, but what version of GPL? Is it 1.2? > -- > Peter Ives - (AKA Ivington) > > No person's opinions can be said to be > more correct than another's, because each is > the sole judge of his or her own experience.

On Thu 08 Jun 2000 08:29:44am, robswindells wrote: >No, I used the default setup for Monza too, but I used left foot >braking for that lap. Thanks. You've really made my day now... -- David. "After all, a mere thousand yards - such a harmless little knoll, really." (Raymond Mays on Shelsley Walsh)

No, I used the default setup for Monza too, but I used left foot braking for that lap. David Buttery wrote:

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> On Wed 07 Jun 2000 07:55:32am, Andre Warringa wrote: > > >On 7 Jun 2000 01:59:19 GMT, > >[email hidden] (David Buttery) wrote: > > > >>http://www.parc-ferme.de/fastlaps.htm is Schubi's Hotlaps Site, > >>which is where you can see the top 100 in each circuit. There are > >>some *seriously* fast times there... Now, comparing your times with > >>those: > > > >I think Rob will be quite depressed after reading your post, I know > >I was... > <snip> > > I doubt it, actually. Remember, Rob was using the *default* setups > everywhere but Monza. If a way could be found of verifying it, it might > be interesting to have a hotlap league table for the default setups. > > In any case, I don't worry about someone like Rob beating me - he's a > *real* racing driver, after all. It's when everyone else does I get > depressed... > -- > David. > "After all, a mere thousand yards - such a harmless little knoll, > really." > (Raymond Mays on Shelsley Walsh)

Hhehe, I've already posted it... 8:17.89. Could do better though, I'm sure. Ace wrote:

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> No time at the Ring though. Nothing to brag about there eh? > -- > -Ace- (8:31.14) > > robswindells <[email hidden]> wrote in message > news:[email hidden]... > > I don't brag much about my GPL laptimes... much :o) But here are some of > > my recent best laps: > > > > Brands Hatch 1:36.91 > > Kyalami 1:20.98 > > Mexico 1:48.99 > > Monaco 1:28.11 (tonight!) > > Monza 1:28.74 (left foot braking, only way at Monza) > > Osterreichring 1:47.46 > > Watkins Glen 1:05.58 > > Zandvoort 1:26.54 (my favourite circuit) > <snip>

I'm in the middle of doing a direct comparision. Each day for the next week I'm going to visit every track I have and just do hotlaps with my right foot. Then I'll do the same with my left foot. See which is faster. I suspect the left foot will prove to be, slightly. [email hidden] wrote:

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> So what is your opinion of right foot braking? I've got a squash ball > under my lwff pedals but i also own a set of ch pro usb pedals (i also > have a paif of non usb ch pro pedals that i'll be happy to sell for > cheap). I've been fighting the move to left foot braking and your > times suggest to me I can continue to resist. Have you tried left > foot? > > On Wed, 07 Jun 2000 08:36:45 +0100, robswindells > <[email hidden]> wrote: > > >> > >> >All these times, with the exception of Monza were done with the > >> >default setup and using right foot braking. How good am I? > >>

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>v1.2 but no, not with a full fuel load, that's just silly :o) > >I set the steering lock to 18 too. > >Peter Ives wrote: > >> In article <[email hidden]>, robswindells >> <[email hidden]> writes >> >I don't brag much about my GPL laptimes... much :o) But here are some >of >> >my recent best laps: >> > >> >Brands Hatch 1:36.91 >> >Kyalami 1:20.98 >> >Mexico 1:48.99 >> >Monaco 1:28.11 (tonight!) >> >Monza 1:28.74 (left foot braking, only way at Monza) >> >Osterreichring 1:47.46 >> >Watkins Glen 1:05.58 >> >Zandvoort 1:26.54 (my favourite circuit) >> > >> >All these times, with the exception of Monza were done with the default >> >setup and using right foot braking. How good am I? :o) I'll upload some >> >replays now to alt.binaries.simulators.autos... if you are more >> >interested than that New Zealand girl was tonight... but that's another >> >story! >> > >> >Rob >> > >>

Well, I've just been round all those tracks with the default and low fuel, except Brands and the Oring as I haven't put them back on my system. It took me about and hour and a half in all with me doing no more than 10 laps at each track. Dare me to post my times? :) -- Peter Ives - (AKA Ivington) No person's opinions can be said to be more correct than another's, because each is the sole judge of his or her own experience.