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Re: [GPL][AI] Help

10 posts by 7 people · 07 Jun 2000 - 09 Jun 2000 17:48 UTC

Does Schumacher always bomb it out the first laps, only to spin off with cold tires in a surrounded pack? -- Kieran S�bastien Tixier <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]... > Well i like simulation because it's close to real, so i would prefer a solution > where the AI are slow down the first 2 laps instead of me being very cautious > the first 2 laps. > > Any solution ? > > Seb > > Colin wrote: > > > I drive VERY cautiously for the first lap or two. > > If they are too close behind you, LET THEM PAST. > > I brake early and off the racing line when someone is behind me to make sure > > they don't clobber me from behind. > > Within two laps you'll be able to catch them and pass them again. > > Dicing with the AI for the first lap or two is suicide. > > > > Cheers, > > ...Colin > > > > S�bastien Tixier <[email hidden]> wrote in message > > news:[email hidden]... > > > Well, i know all about that, what i need is something to correct this > > before > > > i launch > > > my PC through the window when a AI crash me from behind ! :o) Because it's > > > not fair that i'm affected by fuel load and cold tires and AI don't ! > > > > > > Seb >
Colin 07 Jun 2000#264694
I drive VERY cautiously for the first lap or two. If they are too close behind you, LET THEM PAST. I brake early and off the racing line when someone is behind me to make sure they don't clobber me from behind. Within two laps you'll be able to catch them and pass them again. Dicing with the AI for the first lap or two is suicide. Cheers, ...Colin S�bastien Tixier <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]... > Well, i know all about that, what i need is something to correct thisbefore > i launch > my PC through the window when a AI crash me from behind ! :o) Because it's > not fair that i'm affected by fuel load and cold tires and AI don't ! > > Seb
Sebastien Tixier 07 Jun 2000 06:01 UTC#264739
Hi everybody My only problem is that AI are TOO good with cold tyre ! When mine are hot i can follow them and even beat them ( my best place is 2nd at Spa, in Pro Medium ). I can qualify good ( 1st to 6th place ) but AI often crash me from rear because i'm very slower than them in the first 5/6 laps and my car is very large at the first 5/6 laps :o) TweakAI don't works on my computer, it says that it could'nt find a peripheral or something like that.And i don't know if i can only tweak AI values for cold tyre. Please Help! Seb "6th in Pro Medium Champ, last Race was Spa"
Duff 07 Jun 2000 12:04 UTC#264648
The problem is the AI is too fast on the first lap or two. They aren't affected by cold tires much, nor a full fuel load. The main reason why their laps are slightly slower on the initial laps is because of the standing starts, but their cornering speeds are very close to what they'll run later into the race. On Wed, 07 Jun 2000 08:03:31 +0200, S�bastien Tixier <[email hidden]> wrote:
Quoted text (16 lines)>Hi everybody > >My only problem is that AI are TOO good with cold tyre ! When mine are >hot i can follow them and even beat them ( my best place is 2nd at Spa, >in Pro Medium ). I can qualify good ( 1st to 6th place ) but AI often >crash me from rear because i'm very slower than them in the first 5/6 >laps and my car is very large at the first 5/6 laps :o) > >TweakAI don't works on my computer, it says that it could'nt find a >peripheral or something like that.And i don't know if i can only tweak >AI values for cold tyre. > >Please Help! > > >Seb "6th in Pro Medium Champ, last Race was Spa"
Sebastien Tixier 07 Jun 2000 12:13 UTC#264653
Well, i know all about that, what i need is something to correct this before i launch my PC through the window when a AI crash me from behind ! :o) Because it's not fair that i'm affected by fuel load and cold tires and AI don't ! Seb Duff wrote:
Quoted text (25 lines)> The problem is the AI is too fast on the first lap or two. They > aren't affected by cold tires much, nor a full fuel load. The main > reason why their laps are slightly slower on the initial laps is > because of the standing starts, but their cornering speeds are very > close to what they'll run later into the race. > > On Wed, 07 Jun 2000 08:03:31 +0200, S�bastien Tixier > <[email hidden]> wrote: > > >Hi everybody > > > >My only problem is that AI are TOO good with cold tyre ! When mine are > >hot i can follow them and even beat them ( my best place is 2nd at Spa, > >in Pro Medium ). I can qualify good ( 1st to 6th place ) but AI often > >crash me from rear because i'm very slower than them in the first 5/6 > >laps and my car is very large at the first 5/6 laps :o) > > > >TweakAI don't works on my computer, it says that it could'nt find a > >peripheral or something like that.And i don't know if i can only tweak > >AI values for cold tyre. > > > >Please Help! > > > > > >Seb "6th in Pro Medium Champ, last Race was Spa"
Sebastien Tixier 07 Jun 2000 14:34 UTC#264704
Well i like simulation because it's close to real, so i would prefer a solution where the AI are slow down the first 2 laps instead of me being very cautious the first 2 laps. Any solution ? Seb Colin wrote:
Quoted text (19 lines)> I drive VERY cautiously for the first lap or two. > If they are too close behind you, LET THEM PAST. > I brake early and off the racing line when someone is behind me to make sure > they don't clobber me from behind. > Within two laps you'll be able to catch them and pass them again. > Dicing with the AI for the first lap or two is suicide. > > Cheers, > ...Colin > > S�bastien Tixier <[email hidden]> wrote in message > news:[email hidden]... > > Well, i know all about that, what i need is something to correct this > before > > i launch > > my PC through the window when a AI crash me from behind ! :o) Because it's > > not fair that i'm affected by fuel load and cold tires and AI don't ! > > > > Seb
Kurt Steinbock 07 Jun 2000 16:07 UTC#264726
S�bastien Tixier wrote in message <[email hidden]>... >Well i like simulation because it's close to real, so i would prefer asolution >where the AI are slow down the first 2 laps instead of me being verycautious >the first 2 laps. > >Any solution ? > >Seb >In a word, no. You're not the first to notice this, or the first to complain about it. Life (and coding) are not perfect, I guess. Regards, Kurt
Stefan Magnusson 07 Jun 2000 20:34 UTC#264615
As a very wise racing driver once said (JYS ?): "You don't win the race in the first corner, but you may very well loose it." Or something like that Stefan S�bastien Tixier wrote:
Quoted text (30 lines)> > Well i like simulation because it's close to real, so i would prefer a solution > where the AI are slow down the first 2 laps instead of me being very cautious > the first 2 laps. > > Any solution ? > > Seb > > Colin wrote: > > > I drive VERY cautiously for the first lap or two. > > If they are too close behind you, LET THEM PAST. > > I brake early and off the racing line when someone is behind me to make sure > > they don't clobber me from behind. > > Within two laps you'll be able to catch them and pass them again. > > Dicing with the AI for the first lap or two is suicide. > > > > Cheers, > > ...Colin > > > > S�bastien Tixier <[email hidden]> wrote in message > > news:[email hidden]... > > > Well, i know all about that, what i need is something to correct this > > before > > > i launch > > > my PC through the window when a AI crash me from behind ! :o) Because it's > > > not fair that i'm affected by fuel load and cold tires and AI don't ! > > > > > > Seb
Sebastien Tixier 08 Jun 2000 06:05 UTC#264451
Well, i don't spin off with cold tire, i make no fault and i'm very cautious, the AI are not cautious at all and crash into my car . I always keep my lines. I always see replay when it's happen. With that problem you can't use real tips like "you don't win in the first corner" because race's starts are not quite simulated in GPL. AI are bad on starts and too fast on first 2/3 laps. I was only hoping for a solution that could make GPL more realistic. If there's no solution, well i'll continue to drive my way : 1) big start jumping from 5/6th place to 1/2/3rd place. 2) try to keep my place but not at all costs 3) let's pass Surtees before he crash into my car :o) 4) after 2-5 laps fair battles. Seb Kieran Larkin wrote:
Quoted text (41 lines)> Does Schumacher always bomb it out the first laps, only to spin off with > cold tires in a surrounded pack? > > -- > Kieran > S�bastien Tixier <[email hidden]> wrote in message > news:[email hidden]... > > Well i like simulation because it's close to real, so i would prefer a > solution > > where the AI are slow down the first 2 laps instead of me being very > cautious > > the first 2 laps. > > > > Any solution ? > > > > Seb > > > > Colin wrote: > > > > > I drive VERY cautiously for the first lap or two. > > > If they are too close behind you, LET THEM PAST. > > > I brake early and off the racing line when someone is behind me to make > sure > > > they don't clobber me from behind. > > > Within two laps you'll be able to catch them and pass them again. > > > Dicing with the AI for the first lap or two is suicide. > > > > > > Cheers, > > > ...Colin > > > > > > S�bastien Tixier <[email hidden]> wrote in message > > > news:[email hidden]... > > > > Well, i know all about that, what i need is something to correct this > > > before > > > > i launch > > > > my PC through the window when a AI crash me from behind ! :o) Because > it's > > > > not fair that i'm affected by fuel load and cold tires and AI don't ! > > > > > > > > Seb > >
Ian P 09 Jun 2000 17:48 UTC#264099
Don't be worrying about the AI, just hop on over to VROC and race some real intell.... (hang on I nearly said we were intelligent <G>) ..... real people I mean :) Just try to avoid the Monza demo derby's that are going on. -- Ian P <E-mail address invalid due to spam> S�bastien Tixier <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]... > Well, i don't spin off with cold tire, i make no fault and i'm very cautious, > the AI are not cautious at all and crash into my car . I always keep my lines. > I always see replay when it's happen. > > With that problem you can't use real tips like "you don't win in the first > corner" because race's starts are not quite simulated in GPL. AI are bad on > starts and too fast on first 2/3 laps. > > I was only hoping for a solution that could make GPL more realistic. If there's > no solution, well i'll continue to drive my way : > 1) big start jumping from 5/6th place to 1/2/3rd place. > 2) try to keep my place but not at all costs > 3) let's pass Surtees before he crash into my car :o) > 4) after 2-5 laps fair battles. > > Seb > > Kieran Larkin wrote: > > > Does Schumacher always bomb it out the first laps, only to spin off with > > cold tires in a surrounded pack? > > > > -- > > Kieran > > S�bastien Tixier <[email hidden]> wrote in message > > news:[email hidden]... > > > Well i like simulation because it's close to real, so i would prefer a > > solution > > > where the AI are slow down the first 2 laps instead of me being very > > cautious > > > the first 2 laps. > > > > > > Any solution ? > > > > > > Seb > > > > > > Colin wrote: > > > > > > > I drive VERY cautiously for the first lap or two. > > > > If they are too close behind you, LET THEM PAST. > > > > I brake early and off the racing line when someone is behind me to make > > sure > > > > they don't clobber me from behind. > > > > Within two laps you'll be able to catch them and pass them again. > > > > Dicing with the AI for the first lap or two is suicide. > > > > > > > > Cheers, > > > > ...Colin > > > > > > > > S�bastien Tixier <[email hidden]> wrote in message > > > > news:[email hidden]... > > > > > Well, i know all about that, what i need is something to correct this > > > > before > > > > > i launch > > > > > my PC through the window when a AI crash me from behind ! :o) Because > > it's > > > > > not fair that i'm affected by fuel load and cold tires and AI don't ! > > > > > > > > > > Seb > > > >

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