Re: N3 vs N2000

Get the Accelerator Pack from Papy. It has N3, and the N3 Craftsman Truck Series add-on, and Nascar Legends in the same box for $45 or $50. I'm kicking myself now because I didn't wait and I bought each individually. Stupid Papy! Why didn't they release the trucks with N3 like NR99? -- -Brett Goodbye Greg Moore 1975-1999 "I will see you at the front, and wish me luck..." - Greg Moore Goodbye Adam Petty 1980-2000 "It's all about racing on the track." - Adam Petty Congratulations to Juan Montoya, 2000 Indy 500 Champ! [email hidden] wrote in article <8hqoem$q8v$[email hidden]>... > Please give me your opinions. I have N3 and its totally awesome! > However, I've seen positive feedback on N2000. > > > Sent via Deja.com http://www.deja.com/ > Before you buy. >

In article <01beb4d6$8e5cccc0$830f8ad1@default>, "Brett" <[email hidden]> wrote: > Get the Accelerator Pack from Papy. It has N3, and the N3 CraftsmanTruck > Series add-on, and Nascar Legends in the same box for $45 or $50. I'm > kicking myself now because I didn't wait and I bought eachindividually. > Stupid Papy! Why didn't they release the trucks with N3 like NR99? Because they wanted to line THEIR pockets with YOUR hard-earned money. -- JB Sent via Deja.com http://www.deja.com/ Before you buy.

I've got both, but I've not done any RACING with either, so I can't speak of the AI or in-race realism, but when running hot laps and such, the N2000 physics model feels a bit more "lively" and communicative than N3. Actually, to be honest, it's been a while since I've fired up N3, but I have been playing around with NASCAR Legends for the past few nights, and there's not much difference between that and N3, so I think my statement is still sound without doing a quick head-to-head comparison of N3 and N2000. All in all, N2000 feels like a move towards the Viper Racing end of the spectrum, but the steering seems a bit numb and the car seems somewhat unresponsive, with a tendency to drift a bit (which is probably accurate for a bit, tank-like NASCAR vehicle). I haven't touched any of the chassis settings in any of the recent NASCAR sims on my hard drive, so keep in mind that all of my impressions are based on the default chassis settings -- things might improve all around with better setups. Why not download the N2000 demo if you haven't already done so, and compare the demo track to the same track in N3, then form your own opinions? -- JB In article <8hqoem$q8v$[email hidden]>, [email hidden] wrote: > Please give me your opinions. I have N3 and its totally awesome! > However, I've seen positive feedback on N2000. > > Sent via Deja.com http://www.deja.com/ > Before you buy. > Sent via Deja.com http://www.deja.com/ Before you buy.

Thanks for all the great opinions. I'll definitely have to try the demo (DUH!). I guess I should have thought of that before. Are these two sims the best or is there any one thats better like F1 or Dirt Track Racing? In article <8hqvm6$5n$[email hidden]>, [email hidden] wrote:

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> I've got both, but I've not done any RACING with either, so I can't > > Why not download the N2000 demo if you haven't already done so, and > compare the demo track to the same track in N3, then form your own > opinions? > > -- JB

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Please give me your opinions. I have N3 and its totally awesome! However, I've seen positive feedback on N2000. Sent via Deja.com http://www.deja.com/ Before you buy.

>Please give me your opinions. I have N3 and its totally awesome! >However, I've seen positive feedback on N2000. N2000 is so much better than n3 N3 is not a sim, it is a crappy arcade game. N2000 has most real life physics modeled, along with a spetacular EA Sports intro.

LMFAO!!

thus spoke: Bollocks! -- Nos

eh? Is that not the other way round?? I thought N2000 was meant to be very arcadey (is that a word? :)) Ash http://www.race-timing.com TRUSRS85 <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]... | >Please give me your opinions. I have N3 and its totally awesome! | >However, I've seen positive feedback on N2000. | | N2000 is so much better than n3 | N3 is not a sim, it is a crappy arcade game. N2000 has most real lifephysics | modeled, along with a spetacular EA Sports intro.

<[email hidden]> wrote > Thanks for all the great opinions. I'll definitely have to try the > demo (DUH!). I guess I should have thought of that before. Are these > two sims the best or is there any one thats better like F1 or Dirt > Track Racing? There is a big list of racing simulations better than N2000 (it's pretty poor I would say to simulate real-life WinstonCup Racing). Grand Prix Legends is the best sim on the market at the moment (and by a large margin), but in the next year we are awaiting 3 major racing simulation titles : Nascar Racing 4 (using the new game engine by Papyrus), World Sports Cars and Grand Prix 3. There is other sims on the market that are better also, but not as good as GPL in terms of realism of car handling. Dirt Track Racing is pretty fun if you like this type of racing, and for F1 games well mmm.. there ain't a good one yet but F1 2000 is the best of the worst. Viper Racing is very good, while Need For Speed : Porsche Unleashed is very good also! Nascar Racing 4 is subject to release pretty soon, near October iirc. So if you can wait, don't waste your precious time on N2000. -- -- Fran�ois M�nard <ymenard> -- May the Downforce be with you... -- http://www.WeRace.net -- People think it must be fun to be a super genius, but they don't realise how hard it is to put up with all the idiots in the world.

On 09 Jun 2000 13:20:17 GMT, [email hidden] (TRUSRS85) wrote: >N2000 is so much better than n3 >N3 is not a sim, it is a crappy arcade game. N2000 has most real life physics >modeled, along with a spetacular EA Sports intro. LMFAO!!

On Fri, 09 Jun 2000 12:37:44 GMT, [email hidden] wrote: >Please give me your opinions. I have N3 and its totally awesome! >However, I've seen positive feedback on N2000. NASCAR 2000 is clearly a lot better than its awful predecessor, NASCAR Revolution, but it still does not make the grade. Sierra's NASCAR Racing 3 and NASCAR Legends are still the titles of choice for racing simulation fans, and for those who love arcade racers there is still no PC stock car offering satisfying out there (perhaps to be satisfied by Hasbro Sports' forthcoming NASCAR Heat?). In just so many areas NASCAR 2000 comes close but gets no cigar, and after two tries I am beginning to suspect that there are some fundamental flaws and limitations with the basic Stormfront Studios code that underlies this effort. The only really commendable areas are the graphics (but not including the animation), the pit crew dynamics, and the artificial intelligence (but not during crashes), and these are more than offset by areas of fatal flaws such as in frame rates and collision behavior. So if you are considering buying this release, consider the yellow caution flag to be firmly out there giving you fair warning of problems ahead.

On Fri, 09 Jun 2000 19:28:19 GMT, "ymenard" <[email hidden]> thus spoke: >mmm.. there ain't a good one yet but F1 2000 is the best of the worst. Bollocks! -- Nos

you know, I know your being sarcastic man, but #1 it's not funny enough where someone is actually asking a question, and may go peand 40 bucks on your advice, If you can't say something nice, useful or funny... I'm not flaming, I'm just saying, be careful, as no one cal tell your sarcasm, without note of it. as for N2000, read the review in this months PCGamer, I think it's very honest, and I'm glad Andy Mahood has finally brought some sim racing credibility to that magazine. Skotty Flynn <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]... > On 09 Jun 2000 13:20:17 GMT, [email hidden] (TRUSRS85) wrote: > >N2000 is so much better than n3 > >N3 is not a sim, it is a crappy arcade game. N2000 has most real lifephysics > >modeled, along with a spetacular EA Sports intro. > > LMFAO!! >

-<+>-Thanks for all the great opinions. I'll definitely have to try the -<+>-demo (DUH!). I guess I should have thought of that before. Are these -<+>-two sims the best or is there any one thats better like F1 or Dirt -<+>-Track Racing? Now you have opened up the can of worms. You are gonna get the standard canned answer in this NG.... In unison everyone... "GPL" Everyone has an opinion, mine on this GPL, it is barely drivable, and that really takes a lot of the fun out of it. As for your origional question... If you are looking for eye candy (ie graphics) stay with NASCAR2000... If you want more fun on-line racing, go with Nascar 3. Thanks, Mike Alexander ([email hidden]) Torch Red 1986 C4 "ITIS4FN" My 2nd Baby!!! (Note:remove the no_tickets. to send email) -- *********************************************************************** NOTICE TO BULK EMAILERS: Pursuant to US Code, Title 47, Chapter 5, Subchapter II, 227, any and all nonsolicited commercial E-mail sent to this address is subject to a download and archival fee in the amount of $500 US. E-mailing denotes acceptance of these terms. By US Code Title 47, Sec.227(a)(2)(B), a computer/modem/printer meets the definition of a telephone fax machine. By Sec.227(b)(1)(C), it is unlawful to send any unsolicited advertisement to such equipment. By Sec.227(b)(3)(C), a violation of the aforementioned Section is punishable by law. ************************************************************************* SPAM bait: FCC board: Chairman Reed Hundt: [email hidden] Commissioner James Quello: [email hidden] Commissioner Susan Ness: [email hidden] Commissioner Rachelle Chong: [email hidden] more spambait: abuse@localhost postmaster@localhost admin@localhost [email hidden] [email hidden]

Certainly, for realism and hard core sim racer types, GPL does fit the bill nicely. As Mike mentioned below, it will seem barely driveable, at least in the early stages. But practice and patience, and you'll find it an extremely satisfying and challenging sim. As for N3 versus N2000, go with N3 hands down. It is a fantastic Nascar simulation, and has the best built in mulitplayer aspect of any sim to date. -- Don Burnette Dburn in N3 and Legends ICQ# 74084566 "Red 86 Vet" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]... > > -<+>-Thanks for all the great opinions. I'll definitely have to try the > -<+>-demo (DUH!). I guess I should have thought of that before. Are these > -<+>-two sims the best or is there any one thats better like F1 or Dirt > -<+>-Track Racing? > > > Now you have opened up the can of worms. You are gonna get the standard canned answer in this > NG.... In unison everyone... "GPL" > > Everyone has an opinion, mine on this GPL, it is barely drivable, and that really takes a lot of the > fun out of it. As for your origional question... If you are looking for eye candy (ie graphics) > stay with NASCAR2000... If you want more fun on-line racing, go with Nascar 3. > > Thanks, > > Mike Alexander ([email hidden]) > Torch Red 1986 C4 "ITIS4FN" > My 2nd Baby!!! > > (Note:remove the no_tickets. to send email) > > > > > > > -- > *********************************************************************** > NOTICE TO BULK EMAILERS: Pursuant to US Code, Title 47, > Chapter 5, Subchapter II, 227, any and all nonsolicited > commercial E-mail sent to this address is subject to a > download and archival fee in the amount of $500 US. > E-mailing denotes acceptance of these terms. > By US Code Title 47, Sec.227(a)(2)(B), a computer/modem/printer > meets the definition of a telephone fax machine. By Sec.227(b)(1)(C), it > is unlawful to send any unsolicited advertisement to such equipment. By > Sec.227(b)(3)(C), a violation of the aforementioned Section is > punishable by law. > ************************************************************************* > SPAM bait: FCC board: Chairman Reed Hundt: [email hidden] > Commissioner James Quello: [email hidden] > Commissioner Susan Ness: [email hidden] > Commissioner Rachelle Chong: [email hidden] > more spambait: abuse@localhost > postmaster@localhost > admin@localhost > [email hidden] > [email hidden] >

Hey, you can do that too! EA's got a fishing game as well - and with great physics modelling I hear... It's in the game, y'know... FrenZy ----- Original Message ----- From: Larry <[email hidden]> Newsgroups: rec.autos.simulators Sent: Sunday, July 23, 2000 8:57 PM Subject: Re: N3 vs N2000

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> Go Fish? > > -Larry > > TRUSRS85 <[email hidden]> wrote: > > > >Please give me your opinions. I have N3 and its totally awesome! > > >However, I've seen positive feedback on N2000. > > > > N2000 is so much better than n3 > > N3 is not a sim, it is a crappy arcade game. N2000 has most real life

physics > > modeled, along with a spetacular EA Sports intro.

Go Fish? -Larry TRUSRS85 <[email hidden]> wrote: > >Please give me your opinions. I have N3 and its totally awesome! > >However, I've seen positive feedback on N2000. > > N2000 is so much better than n3 > N3 is not a sim, it is a crappy arcade game. N2000 has most real life physics > modeled, along with a spetacular EA Sports intro.