Just what I thought :-)
Regards
Bob
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GPLEA releases enhanced Lotus for GPL
Users thanked the GPL Enhancement Association for releasing its updated Lotus model, following the earlier Ferrari. A few asked whether it reduced frame rates, and most reported no loss. The rest of the thread was banter about monitor sizes and frame rates.
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more important, does this eye candy cause a fps loss?
I am skeptical of the wheels.
d....can't afford to lose fps!
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perspex.
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> Does this new Lotus feature a revise rear end, in order to stop it from > breaking away whenever I hit the brakes? :-) > > Bruce Kennewell wrote in message <394391ea$[email hidden]>... > >Excellent job, chaps! It looks wonderful. > >There is one point that I'd like to comment on, however, and that is the > >claim that the original 49 (as debuted at Zandvoort) did not have a > >transparent screen. This is an incorrect assumption. > > > >The car most definitely DID have a perspex screen but it had a shortened > >(compared to the next version) wrap-around, which ended adjacent the > >location of the mirrors. The screen was NOT opaque....it was clearQuoted text (20 lines)
> > > >-- > >Regards, > >Bruce Kennewell, > >Canberra, Australia. > >--------------------------- > > > >Skeeter <[email hidden]> wrote in message > >news:[email hidden]... > >> Try this new link---www.kotr.de/org----its in the cars section > >> > >> > >> On Sun, 11 Jun 2000 22:05:15 GMT, [email hidden] (Skeeter) wrote: > >> > >> > > >> > > > > > >And a beauty she is, too! Thanks, gang! The timing's perfect, as well.
It's like I've been given a reward for finally taking up manual shifting
and attempting to tame this lovely monster.
J. P. Hovercraft
Skeeter wrote:
Ideed a wonderfull job guys i have enjoyed the ferrari and now I LOVE the
Lotus.
Thanks for your hard work in keeping GPL the best sim out there.
G.Gordo
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Me neither, but some people in the GPLEA forum did...
just try it out yourself, you can allways uninstall it...
Andre
On Mon, 12 Jun 2000 11:54:57 -0400, "Colin"
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>I didn't notice any change in fps.
>...Colin
>
wanna bet the users with framerate hits were either low-end cpu
users or nvidia people???
dave henrie
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> > Me neither, but some people in the GPLEA forum did... > just try it out yourself, you can allways uninstall it... > > Andre > > On Mon, 12 Jun 2000 11:54:57 -0400, "Colin" > <[email hidden]> wrote: > > >I didn't notice any change in fps. > >...Colin > >On Mon, 12 Jun 2000 18:00:18 GMT, Dave Henrie <[email hidden]> wrote:
>wanna bet the users with framerate hits were either low-end cpu
>users or nvidia people???
>dave henrie
No, I don't :)
Andre
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> >Andre Warringa wrote: >> >> Me neither, but some people in the GPLEA forum did... >> just try it out yourself, you can allways uninstall it... >> >> Andre >> >> On Mon, 12 Jun 2000 11:54:57 -0400, "Colin" >> <[email hidden]> wrote: >> >> >I didn't notice any change in fps. >> >...Colin >> >Bruce Kennewell wrote:
>
> Certainly no loss of fps here.
How do you notice that on a 12" monitor ? :-)
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Certainly no loss of fps here.
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D <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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> more important, does this eye candy cause a fps loss?
>
> I am skeptical of the wheels.
>
> d....can't afford to lose fps!
>
> "Steve Garey" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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> > Does this new Lotus feature a revise rear end, in order to stop it from
> > breaking away whenever I hit the brakes? :-)
> >
> > Bruce Kennewell wrote in message <394391ea$[email hidden]>...
> > >Excellent job, chaps! It looks wonderful.
> > >There is one point that I'd like to comment on, however, and that is
the
> > >claim that the original 49 (as debuted at Zandvoort) did not have a
> > >transparent screen. This is an incorrect assumption.
> > >
> > >The car most definitely DID have a perspex screen but it had a
shortened
> > >(compared to the next version) wrap-around, which ended adjacent the
> > >location of the mirrors. The screen was NOT opaque....it was clear
> perspex.
> > >
> > >--
> > >Regards,
> > >Bruce Kennewell,
> > >Canberra, Australia.
> > >---------------------------
> > >
> > >Skeeter <[email hidden]> wrote in message
> > >news:[email hidden]...
> > >> Try this new link---www.kotr.de/org----its in the cars section
> > >>
> > >>
> > >> On Sun, 11 Jun 2000 22:05:15 GMT, [email hidden] (Skeeter) wrote:
> > >>
> > >> >
> > >>
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
>
>
LOL!!
Well, Uncle, you should know that the smaller the monitor, the better the
frame-rate. Those bloody great big 21" things are simply horrendous...they
chew up fps and bog down when compared to (for example) a 12" screen.
The ideal is to use the beautiful 9" Sony monitor that came with the little
Amstrad 386 back around 1990/91.
(Seriously, the clarity and resolution on that little jewel was
magnificent. I used one at work and that 9" screen was brighter, clearer
and easier to read than the 14" unit on another PC that we had).
--
Regards,
Bruce Kennewell,
Canberra, Australia.
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> Bruce Kennewell wrote:
> >
> > Certainly no loss of fps here.
>
> How do you notice that on a 12" monitor ? :-)
>
>
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Bruce Kennewell wrote:
Well, Sony's "tubes" has always been excellent, I have one myself in my
17" Nokia and wouldn't trade it for anything less, it's about 3 years
old now, but beat most modern "tubes" on picture quality still, drooling
over a 19" Nokia now, but I can't really justify the expense...:-)
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> > LOL!! > Well, Uncle, you should know that the smaller the monitor, the better the > frame-rate. Those bloody great big 21" things are simply horrendous...they > chew up fps and bog down when compared to (for example) a 12" screen. > The ideal is to use the beautiful 9" Sony monitor that came with the little > Amstrad 386 back around 1990/91. > > (Seriously, the clarity and resolution on that little jewel was > magnificent. I used one at work and that 9" screen was brighter, clearer > and easier to read than the 14" unit on another PC that we had).Bruce Kennewell wrote:
LMAO, you suffering from the Chivas effect Bruce ?
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> > Well...you've been warned, squire. > Go to a 19" instead of a 17" and your will suffer a two-inches per > radiant-pixel reduction in effective frame rate. > (Our scientific lab has actually worked out that GPL, refreshing at the > optimal rate of 36fps, willl be brought to a halt on a screen 36" on the > diagonal. This is called the "Equals One" Effect or, more colloquially, the > "Bugger Me Days, It's Stopped!!" syndrome.)Bruce, there was a nice one for you at the old Osborne portable CPM-machines -
you know those with 2 FD's.
I guess the monitor was about 6" <vbg>
Jens
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>LOL!! >Well, Uncle, you should know that the smaller the monitor, the better the >frame-rate. Those bloody great big 21" things are simply horrendous...they >chew up fps and bog down when compared to (for example) a 12" screen. >The ideal is to use the beautiful 9" Sony monitor that came with the little >Amstrad 386 back around 1990/91. > >(Seriously, the clarity and resolution on that little jewel was >magnificent. I used one at work and that 9" screen was brighter, clearer >and easier to read than the 14" unit on another PC that we had).Well...you've been warned, squire.
Go to a 19" instead of a 17" and your will suffer a two-inches per
radiant-pixel reduction in effective frame rate.
(Our scientific lab has actually worked out that GPL, refreshing at the
optimal rate of 36fps, willl be brought to a halt on a screen 36" on the
diagonal. This is called the "Equals One" Effect or, more colloquially, the
"Bugger Me Days, It's Stopped!!" syndrome.)
--
Regards,
Bruce Kennewell,
Canberra, Australia.
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> Bruce Kennewell wrote:
> >
> > LOL!!
> > Well, Uncle, you should know that the smaller the monitor, the better
the
> > frame-rate. Those bloody great big 21" things are simply
horrendous...they
> > chew up fps and bog down when compared to (for example) a 12" screen.
> > The ideal is to use the beautiful 9" Sony monitor that came with the
little
> > Amstrad 386 back around 1990/91.
> >
> > (Seriously, the clarity and resolution on that little jewel was
> > magnificent. I used one at work and that 9" screen was brighter,
clearer
> > and easier to read than the 14" unit on another PC that we had).
>
> Well, Sony's "tubes" has always been excellent, I have one myself in my
> 17" Nokia and wouldn't trade it for anything less, it's about 3 years
> old now, but beat most modern "tubes" on picture quality still, drooling
> over a 19" Nokia now, but I can't really justify the expense...:-)
>
>
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Bruce Kennewell wrote:
>
> No good unless it was a genuine Sony tube, Jens.
Not even if improved with the "Glenlivet Effect" ?
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> No...doesn't work. All the Glenlivet Effect does is to make the picture
> bl...............HOLY COW! I've found the answer to my question of how to
> make "speed blur"!! EUREKA!
>
> (Controllability will, of course, be next to non-existent!)
You're weird mate, no wonder Elle left you.......
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More likely the Glenlivet Effect, I think, Goy! :-)
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> Bruce Kennewell wrote:
> >
> > Well...you've been warned, squire.
> > Go to a 19" instead of a 17" and your will suffer a two-inches per
> > radiant-pixel reduction in effective frame rate.
> > (Our scientific lab has actually worked out that GPL, refreshing at the
> > optimal rate of 36fps, willl be brought to a halt on a screen 36" on the
> > diagonal. This is called the "Equals One" Effect or, more colloquially,
the
> > "Bugger Me Days, It's Stopped!!" syndrome.)
>
> LMAO, you suffering from the Chivas effect Bruce ?
>
>
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>
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No good unless it was a genuine Sony tube, Jens.
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Bruce Kennewell,
Canberra, Australia.
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> Bruce, there was a nice one for you at the old Osborne portable
CPM-machines -
> you know those with 2 FD's.
> I guess the monitor was about 6" <vbg>
>
> Jens
>
> On Tue, 13 Jun 2000 22:49:14 +1000, "Bruce Kennewell" <[email hidden]>
wrote:
>
> >LOL!!
> >Well, Uncle, you should know that the smaller the monitor, the better the
> >frame-rate. Those bloody great big 21" things are simply
horrendous...they
> >chew up fps and bog down when compared to (for example) a 12" screen.
> >The ideal is to use the beautiful 9" Sony monitor that came with the
little
> >Amstrad 386 back around 1990/91.
> >
> >(Seriously, the clarity and resolution on that little jewel was
> >magnificent. I used one at work and that 9" screen was brighter, clearer
> >and easier to read than the 14" unit on another PC that we had).
>
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No...doesn't work. All the Glenlivet Effect does is to make the picture
bl...............HOLY COW! I've found the answer to my question of how to
make "speed blur"!! EUREKA!
(Controllability will, of course, be next to non-existent!)
--
Regards,
Bruce Kennewell,
Canberra, Australia.
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>
>
> Bruce Kennewell wrote:
> >
> > No good unless it was a genuine Sony tube, Jens.
>
> Not even if improved with the "Glenlivet Effect" ?
>
>
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>
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With my beauty and her brains we could have gone far. (Sob!)
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>
> Bruce Kennewell wrote:
> >
> > No...doesn't work. All the Glenlivet Effect does is to make the picture
> > bl...............HOLY COW! I've found the answer to my question of how
to
> > make "speed blur"!! EUREKA!
> >
> > (Controllability will, of course, be next to non-existent!)
>
> You're weird mate, no wonder Elle left you.......
>
>
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>
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OK, lets upgrade to a smaller Monitor - I can hardly wait ;-)
Jens
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>Well...you've been warned, squire. >Go to a 19" instead of a 17" and your will suffer a two-inches per >radiant-pixel reduction in effective frame rate. >(Our scientific lab has actually worked out that GPL, refreshing at the >optimal rate of 36fps, willl be brought to a halt on a screen 36" on the >diagonal. This is called the "Equals One" Effect or, more colloquially, the >"Bugger Me Days, It's Stopped!!" syndrome.)If I recall right there was written "Flintstone Industries" on it ;-)
Jens
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>No good unless it was a genuine Sony tube, Jens.
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Aaah! One of THOSE...they provided a rock-steady picture, so I understand.
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> If I recall right there was written "Flintstone Industries" on it ;-)
>
> Jens
>
> On Thu, 15 Jun 2000 17:40:02 +1000, "Bruce Kennewell" <[email hidden]>
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> >No good unless it was a genuine Sony tube, Jens.
>
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