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Re: ATTENTION GPLEA--LOTUS is out!!!!!

23 posts by 9 people · 12 Jun 2000 - 18 Jun 2000 03:45 UTC

GPLEA releases enhanced Lotus for GPL

Users thanked the GPL Enhancement Association for releasing its updated Lotus model, following the earlier Ferrari. A few asked whether it reduced frame rates, and most reported no loss. The rest of the thread was banter about monitor sizes and frame rates.

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R A Wright 12 Jun 2000#263786
Just what I thought :-) Regards Bob Andre Warringa <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]...
Quoted text (9 lines)> And now the wheel has just the same bright red color as my LWFF :)) > > Andre > > On Mon, 12 Jun 2000 00:06:35 +0100, "Phil Lee" > <[email hidden]> wrote: > > >Just downloaded it. What a work of art. The attention to detail is > >amazing, especially the wheels. Every bit as good, if not better that
the
Quoted text (9 lines)> >Ferrai and Brabham. > > > >Keep up the good work lads. Can't wait for your next project to be > >complete. > > > >Cheers > > > >Phil >
D 12 Jun 2000#263819
more important, does this eye candy cause a fps loss? I am skeptical of the wheels. d....can't afford to lose fps! "Steve Garey" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]...
Quoted text (12 lines)> Does this new Lotus feature a revise rear end, in order to stop it from > breaking away whenever I hit the brakes? :-) > > Bruce Kennewell wrote in message <394391ea$[email hidden]>... > >Excellent job, chaps! It looks wonderful. > >There is one point that I'd like to comment on, however, and that is the > >claim that the original 49 (as debuted at Zandvoort) did not have a > >transparent screen. This is an incorrect assumption. > > > >The car most definitely DID have a perspex screen but it had a shortened > >(compared to the next version) wrap-around, which ended adjacent the > >location of the mirrors. The screen was NOT opaque....it was clear
perspex.
Quoted text (20 lines)> > > >-- > >Regards, > >Bruce Kennewell, > >Canberra, Australia. > >--------------------------- > > > >Skeeter <[email hidden]> wrote in message > >news:[email hidden]... > >> Try this new link---www.kotr.de/org----its in the cars section > >> > >> > >> On Sun, 11 Jun 2000 22:05:15 GMT, [email hidden] (Skeeter) wrote: > >> > >> > > >> > > > > > >
Support 12 Jun 2000 16:28 UTC#263773
And a beauty she is, too! Thanks, gang! The timing's perfect, as well. It's like I've been given a reward for finally taking up manual shifting and attempting to tame this lovely monster. J. P. Hovercraft Skeeter wrote:
gordon 12 Jun 2000 17:27 UTC#263783
Ideed a wonderfull job guys i have enjoyed the ferrari and now I LOVE the Lotus. Thanks for your hard work in keeping GPL the best sim out there. G.Gordo "Skeeter" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]... >
Andre Warringa 12 Jun 2000 17:53 UTC#263760
Me neither, but some people in the GPLEA forum did... just try it out yourself, you can allways uninstall it... Andre On Mon, 12 Jun 2000 11:54:57 -0400, "Colin" <[email hidden]> wrote: >I didn't notice any change in fps. >...Colin >
Dave Henrie 12 Jun 2000 18:00 UTC#263638
wanna bet the users with framerate hits were either low-end cpu users or nvidia people??? dave henrie Andre Warringa wrote:
Quoted text (12 lines)> > Me neither, but some people in the GPLEA forum did... > just try it out yourself, you can allways uninstall it... > > Andre > > On Mon, 12 Jun 2000 11:54:57 -0400, "Colin" > <[email hidden]> wrote: > > >I didn't notice any change in fps. > >...Colin > >
Andre Warringa 12 Jun 2000 22:49 UTC#263666
On Mon, 12 Jun 2000 18:00:18 GMT, Dave Henrie <[email hidden]> wrote: >wanna bet the users with framerate hits were either low-end cpu >users or nvidia people??? >dave henrie No, I don't :) Andre
Quoted text (14 lines)> >Andre Warringa wrote: >> >> Me neither, but some people in the GPLEA forum did... >> just try it out yourself, you can allways uninstall it... >> >> Andre >> >> On Mon, 12 Jun 2000 11:54:57 -0400, "Colin" >> <[email hidden]> wrote: >> >> >I didn't notice any change in fps. >> >...Colin >> >
Bruce Kennewell 13 Jun 2000 12:34 UTC#263733
Certainly no loss of fps here. -- Regards, Bruce Kennewell, Canberra, Australia. --------------------------- D <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]... > more important, does this eye candy cause a fps loss? > > I am skeptical of the wheels. > > d....can't afford to lose fps! > > "Steve Garey" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > news:[email hidden]... > > Does this new Lotus feature a revise rear end, in order to stop it from > > breaking away whenever I hit the brakes? :-) > > > > Bruce Kennewell wrote in message <394391ea$[email hidden]>... > > >Excellent job, chaps! It looks wonderful. > > >There is one point that I'd like to comment on, however, and that is the > > >claim that the original 49 (as debuted at Zandvoort) did not have a > > >transparent screen. This is an incorrect assumption. > > > > > >The car most definitely DID have a perspex screen but it had a shortened > > >(compared to the next version) wrap-around, which ended adjacent the > > >location of the mirrors. The screen was NOT opaque....it was clear > perspex. > > > > > >-- > > >Regards, > > >Bruce Kennewell, > > >Canberra, Australia. > > >--------------------------- > > > > > >Skeeter <[email hidden]> wrote in message > > >news:[email hidden]... > > >> Try this new link---www.kotr.de/org----its in the cars section > > >> > > >> > > >> On Sun, 11 Jun 2000 22:05:15 GMT, [email hidden] (Skeeter) wrote: > > >> > > >> > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > >
Bruce Kennewell 14 Jun 2000 03:44 UTC#263582
LOL!! Well, Uncle, you should know that the smaller the monitor, the better the frame-rate. Those bloody great big 21" things are simply horrendous...they chew up fps and bog down when compared to (for example) a 12" screen. The ideal is to use the beautiful 9" Sony monitor that came with the little Amstrad 386 back around 1990/91. (Seriously, the clarity and resolution on that little jewel was magnificent. I used one at work and that 9" screen was brighter, clearer and easier to read than the 14" unit on another PC that we had). -- Regards, Bruce Kennewell, Canberra, Australia. --------------------------- Goy Larsen <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]... > Bruce Kennewell wrote: > > > > Certainly no loss of fps here. > > How do you notice that on a 12" monitor ? :-) > > > Beers and cheers > (uncle) Goy > > "Team Mirage" http://www.teammirage.com/ > "The Pits" http://www.theuspits.com/ > > * Spam is for losers who can't get business any other way * > "Spamkiller" http://www.spamkiller.com
Goy Larsen 14 Jun 2000 12:21 UTC#263200
Bruce Kennewell wrote:
Quoted text (11 lines)> > LOL!! > Well, Uncle, you should know that the smaller the monitor, the better the > frame-rate. Those bloody great big 21" things are simply horrendous...they > chew up fps and bog down when compared to (for example) a 12" screen. > The ideal is to use the beautiful 9" Sony monitor that came with the little > Amstrad 386 back around 1990/91. > > (Seriously, the clarity and resolution on that little jewel was > magnificent. I used one at work and that 9" screen was brighter, clearer > and easier to read than the 14" unit on another PC that we had).
Well, Sony's "tubes" has always been excellent, I have one myself in my 17" Nokia and wouldn't trade it for anything less, it's about 3 years old now, but beat most modern "tubes" on picture quality still, drooling over a 19" Nokia now, but I can't really justify the expense...:-) Beers and cheers (uncle) Goy "Team Mirage" http://www.teammirage.com/ "The Pits" http://www.theuspits.com/ * Spam is for losers who can't get business any other way * "Spamkiller" http://www.spamkiller.com
Goy Larsen 14 Jun 2000 17:01 UTC#263048
Bruce Kennewell wrote:
Quoted text (8 lines)> > Well...you've been warned, squire. > Go to a 19" instead of a 17" and your will suffer a two-inches per > radiant-pixel reduction in effective frame rate. > (Our scientific lab has actually worked out that GPL, refreshing at the > optimal rate of 36fps, willl be brought to a halt on a screen 36" on the > diagonal. This is called the "Equals One" Effect or, more colloquially, the > "Bugger Me Days, It's Stopped!!" syndrome.)
LMAO, you suffering from the Chivas effect Bruce ? Beers and cheers (uncle) Goy "Team Mirage" http://www.teammirage.com/ "The Pits" http://www.theuspits.com/ * Spam is for losers who can't get business any other way * "Spamkiller" http://www.spamkiller.com
JS 15 Jun 2000#262970
Bruce, there was a nice one for you at the old Osborne portable CPM-machines - you know those with 2 FD's. I guess the monitor was about 6" <vbg> Jens On Tue, 13 Jun 2000 22:49:14 +1000, "Bruce Kennewell" <[email hidden]> wrote:
Quoted text (10 lines)>LOL!! >Well, Uncle, you should know that the smaller the monitor, the better the >frame-rate. Those bloody great big 21" things are simply horrendous...they >chew up fps and bog down when compared to (for example) a 12" screen. >The ideal is to use the beautiful 9" Sony monitor that came with the little >Amstrad 386 back around 1990/91. > >(Seriously, the clarity and resolution on that little jewel was >magnificent. I used one at work and that 9" screen was brighter, clearer >and easier to read than the 14" unit on another PC that we had).
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Bruce Kennewell 15 Jun 2000 04:11 UTC#263221
Well...you've been warned, squire. Go to a 19" instead of a 17" and your will suffer a two-inches per radiant-pixel reduction in effective frame rate. (Our scientific lab has actually worked out that GPL, refreshing at the optimal rate of 36fps, willl be brought to a halt on a screen 36" on the diagonal. This is called the "Equals One" Effect or, more colloquially, the "Bugger Me Days, It's Stopped!!" syndrome.) -- Regards, Bruce Kennewell, Canberra, Australia. --------------------------- Goy Larsen <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]... > Bruce Kennewell wrote: > > > > LOL!! > > Well, Uncle, you should know that the smaller the monitor, the better the > > frame-rate. Those bloody great big 21" things are simply horrendous...they > > chew up fps and bog down when compared to (for example) a 12" screen. > > The ideal is to use the beautiful 9" Sony monitor that came with the little > > Amstrad 386 back around 1990/91. > > > > (Seriously, the clarity and resolution on that little jewel was > > magnificent. I used one at work and that 9" screen was brighter, clearer > > and easier to read than the 14" unit on another PC that we had). > > Well, Sony's "tubes" has always been excellent, I have one myself in my > 17" Nokia and wouldn't trade it for anything less, it's about 3 years > old now, but beat most modern "tubes" on picture quality still, drooling > over a 19" Nokia now, but I can't really justify the expense...:-) > > > Beers and cheers > (uncle) Goy > > "Team Mirage" http://www.teammirage.com/ > "The Pits" http://www.theuspits.com/ > > * Spam is for losers who can't get business any other way * > "Spamkiller" http://www.spamkiller.com
Goy Larsen 15 Jun 2000 12:12 UTC#262859
Bruce Kennewell wrote: > > No...doesn't work. All the Glenlivet Effect does is to make the picture > bl...............HOLY COW! I've found the answer to my question of how to > make "speed blur"!! EUREKA! > > (Controllability will, of course, be next to non-existent!) You're weird mate, no wonder Elle left you....... Beers and cheers (uncle) Goy "Team Mirage" http://www.teammirage.com/ "The Pits" http://www.theuspits.com/ * Spam is for losers who can't get business any other way * "Spamkiller" http://www.spamkiller.com
Bruce Kennewell 15 Jun 2000 22:11 UTC#262906
More likely the Glenlivet Effect, I think, Goy! :-) -- Regards, Bruce Kennewell, Canberra, Australia. --------------------------- Goy Larsen <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]... > Bruce Kennewell wrote: > > > > Well...you've been warned, squire. > > Go to a 19" instead of a 17" and your will suffer a two-inches per > > radiant-pixel reduction in effective frame rate. > > (Our scientific lab has actually worked out that GPL, refreshing at the > > optimal rate of 36fps, willl be brought to a halt on a screen 36" on the > > diagonal. This is called the "Equals One" Effect or, more colloquially, the > > "Bugger Me Days, It's Stopped!!" syndrome.) > > LMAO, you suffering from the Chivas effect Bruce ? > > > Beers and cheers > (uncle) Goy > > "Team Mirage" http://www.teammirage.com/ > "The Pits" http://www.theuspits.com/ > > * Spam is for losers who can't get business any other way * > "Spamkiller" http://www.spamkiller.com
Bruce Kennewell 15 Jun 2000 22:34 UTC#262913
No good unless it was a genuine Sony tube, Jens. -- Regards, Bruce Kennewell, Canberra, Australia. --------------------------- JS <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]... > Bruce, there was a nice one for you at the old Osborne portable CPM-machines - > you know those with 2 FD's. > I guess the monitor was about 6" <vbg> > > Jens > > On Tue, 13 Jun 2000 22:49:14 +1000, "Bruce Kennewell" <[email hidden]> wrote: > > >LOL!! > >Well, Uncle, you should know that the smaller the monitor, the better the > >frame-rate. Those bloody great big 21" things are simply horrendous...they > >chew up fps and bog down when compared to (for example) a 12" screen. > >The ideal is to use the beautiful 9" Sony monitor that came with the little > >Amstrad 386 back around 1990/91. > > > >(Seriously, the clarity and resolution on that little jewel was > >magnificent. I used one at work and that 9" screen was brighter, clearer > >and easier to read than the 14" unit on another PC that we had). > > --------------------------------------------- > [email hidden] > Remove "NOSPAM" before using my email-address > > JensSchumi homepage at http://members.xoom.com/JensSchu/ > Racing simulation, esp. GPL > Logitech Wingman FF optimization > Classic cars, esp. Morris Minor > Radio controlled airplanes
Bruce Kennewell 16 Jun 2000 03:01 UTC#262857
No...doesn't work. All the Glenlivet Effect does is to make the picture bl...............HOLY COW! I've found the answer to my question of how to make "speed blur"!! EUREKA! (Controllability will, of course, be next to non-existent!) -- Regards, Bruce Kennewell, Canberra, Australia. --------------------------- Goy Larsen <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]... > > > Bruce Kennewell wrote: > > > > No good unless it was a genuine Sony tube, Jens. > > Not even if improved with the "Glenlivet Effect" ? > > > Beers and cheers > (uncle) Goy > > "Team Mirage" http://www.teammirage.com/ > "The Pits" http://www.theuspits.com/ > > * Spam is for losers who can't get business any other way * > "Spamkiller" http://www.spamkiller.com
Bruce Kennewell 16 Jun 2000 12:31 UTC#262709
With my beauty and her brains we could have gone far. (Sob!) -- Regards, Bruce Kennewell, Canberra, Australia. --------------------------- Goy Larsen <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]... > > > Bruce Kennewell wrote: > > > > No...doesn't work. All the Glenlivet Effect does is to make the picture > > bl...............HOLY COW! I've found the answer to my question of how to > > make "speed blur"!! EUREKA! > > > > (Controllability will, of course, be next to non-existent!) > > You're weird mate, no wonder Elle left you....... > > > Beers and cheers > (uncle) Goy > > "Team Mirage" http://www.teammirage.com/ > "The Pits" http://www.theuspits.com/ > > * Spam is for losers who can't get business any other way * > "Spamkiller" http://www.spamkiller.com
JS 17 Jun 2000#262323
OK, lets upgrade to a smaller Monitor - I can hardly wait ;-) Jens On Wed, 14 Jun 2000 23:17:15 +1000, "Bruce Kennewell" <[email hidden]> wrote:
Quoted text (7 lines)>Well...you've been warned, squire. >Go to a 19" instead of a 17" and your will suffer a two-inches per >radiant-pixel reduction in effective frame rate. >(Our scientific lab has actually worked out that GPL, refreshing at the >optimal rate of 36fps, willl be brought to a halt on a screen 36" on the >diagonal. This is called the "Equals One" Effect or, more colloquially, the >"Bugger Me Days, It's Stopped!!" syndrome.)
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JS 17 Jun 2000#262324
If I recall right there was written "Flintstone Industries" on it ;-) Jens On Thu, 15 Jun 2000 17:40:02 +1000, "Bruce Kennewell" <[email hidden]> wrote: >No good unless it was a genuine Sony tube, Jens. --------------------------------------------- [email hidden] Remove "NOSPAM" before using my email-address JensSchumi homepage at http://members.xoom.com/JensSchu/ Racing simulation, esp. GPL Logitech Wingman FF optimization Classic cars, esp. Morris Minor Radio controlled airplanes
Bruce Kennewell 18 Jun 2000 03:45 UTC#262275
Aaah! One of THOSE...they provided a rock-steady picture, so I understand. -- Regards, Bruce Kennewell, Canberra, Australia. --------------------------- JS <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]... > If I recall right there was written "Flintstone Industries" on it ;-) > > Jens > > On Thu, 15 Jun 2000 17:40:02 +1000, "Bruce Kennewell" <[email hidden]> wrote: > > >No good unless it was a genuine Sony tube, Jens. > > --------------------------------------------- > [email hidden] > Remove "NOSPAM" before using my email-address > > JensSchumi homepage at http://members.xoom.com/JensSchu/ > Racing simulation, esp. GPL > Logitech Wingman FF optimization > Classic cars, esp. Morris Minor > Radio controlled airplanes

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