Re: OT: Wow what a race!!!

In article <[email hidden]>, [email hidden] (Scott) wrote: > No offense, but you started your thread "For all you IRL bashers.."Well, > don't be surprised if we respond to your post ;) Okay, I'll give you that one. <G> > I did catch the last 10 laps or so and the side by side racing forthe win > was very good, clean racing. But its no different than watchingSaturday > night racers in a great close race. That doesn't make them a toptier > division or league. So where is it you live again? I'd love to see those Saturday night racers in your area who regularly that kind of close racing at OVER 200 MPH. <VBG> BTW, did you hear about Cheever winning the IROC event on Saturday, making him the first open-wheeler to win since Little Al way back in 1997? ;-) -- JB Sent via Deja.com http://www.deja.com/ Before you buy.

Throw around all the <VBG>s you want, Scott, but it doesn't change the fact that yesterday's IRL race was some of the best racing that we're likely to see all year. Yesterday's attendance was pretty decent considering that 1) Texas can seat around 200,000 people, and 2) That was a RAIN-OUT crowd, returning for the second day, when rains where still threatening. Want to talk about CART's oval attendance figures while we're at it? Want to talk about CART's sponsorship woes, too, while you're at it? Don't pretend these problems don't exist for CART, because they do. Divisiveness won't fix open-wheel racing. CART has a great product, and the IRL has a great product, and eveybody will benefit if they can find a way to work together, rather than at odds with each other. Of course, with Mercedes-Benz potentially pulling the plug in 2001, and with Toyota enjoying the halo effect of the Montoya/Ganassi win at Indy, the IRL engine formula may start looking much more attractive to the remaining CART teams and suppliers. As you said, "LOLOL" -- JB In article <[email hidden]>, [email hidden] (Scott) wrote: > I also heard great news... Texas Motorspeedway is going to host 2 IRL > events per season through 2004! Thats 8 races at Texas! > > By looking at the crowd and TV ratings, that means about 16 viewersover > the next 4 years!! Great deal for Texas Motorspeedway!! > > I think sponsors could get more exposure sponsoring a Tupperwarehouse > party than an IRL event! Of course, they would probably recruit afew more

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> drivers too! LOLOL > > <VBG> > > Scott > PA-Scott > PowerSims.com > >

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I also heard great news... Texas Motorspeedway is going to host 2 IRL events per season through 2004! Thats 8 races at Texas! By looking at the crowd and TV ratings, that means about 16 viewers over the next 4 years!! Great deal for Texas Motorspeedway!! I think sponsors could get more exposure sponsoring a Tupperware house party than an IRL event! Of course, they would probably recruit a few more drivers too! LOLOL <VBG> Scott PA-Scott PowerSims.com

I'm sorry that Scott and the rest who replied to my post don't feel the same way I do about that terriffic race Sunday at TMS. I'm a race fan, I follow F1, CART, NASCAR, USAC, WoO and yes the IRL. I live in the Dallas Metroplex so I'm lucky enough to get to see two IRL events each season, and have met and talked with many, many of the IRL drivers and teams. All I can say is... Folks if you didn't think that was one of the best Open Wheel races you've ever seen, then your either not a race fan, or are so blinded by your hate for the IRL that your living in denial! As for attendance.... If you weren't paying attention this race was rain delayed from Saturday night, and it was raining cats and dogs on Sunday morning in Dallas. We watched the local weather radar and decided to take a chance and head for the track. It wasn't until we got about 15 minutes away from TMS that the rain let up. Frankly, I was VERY surprised that they were able to get the race in at all! Now.... That's all I'm going to say about it... Let's get back to the business of talking SIM racing, and not turn this into a lengthy debate, ok? If you want to talk / argue the merits of the IRL and yesterdays event, I'd check out the Indianapolis Star/News newspapers website, and go to the link for their Speednet racing forums: http://www.starnews.com/sports/speednet/ Regards JJ

On Mon, 12 Jun 2000 03:19:47 GMT, Speedy Fast <[email hidden]> wrote: >well except that the IRL race was full of CART rejects like Scott >Sharp, Buddy Lazier and Eddie Cheever. Not to mention Shiggy Hattori >who finished 8th in his first IRL race. (he was pretty well kicked >out of CART by CART officials because of his lack of talent) Umm, which of the Hattori's was the awful one, Naoki of Shigeaki?

No offense, but you started your thread "For all you IRL bashers.." Well, don't be surprised if we respond to your post ;) I did catch the last 10 laps or so and the side by side racing for the win was very good, clean racing. But its no different than watching Saturday night racers in a great close race. That doesn't make them a top tier division or league. Scott PA-Scott PowerSims.com

Man, you seem BITTER... And besides, they could have been racing 3-hp gokarts around a roller-derby rink for all I care, that was AWESOME RACING!!!!!! -- Kirk Lane [email hidden] GPLRank: 229.48 ICQ: 28171652 AIM: Kirker64 (IM me twice so I can reply...using a beta client) "The time has come for me to kill this game Now open wide and say my name" - "Space Lord", Monster Magnet Speedy Fast <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]... > On Mon, 12 Jun 2000 02:39:47 GMT, "Jay J" <[email hidden]> > wrote: > > >For all the IRL bashers out there... > > > >I hope you were watching the superb action and side by side racing that the > >IRL put on today at Texas Motor Speedway. > > > >I'd rank that race right up there with the best IndyCar races I've ever > >seen... Period! > > well except that the IRL race was full of CART rejects like Scott > Sharp, Buddy Lazier and Eddie Cheever. Not to mention Shiggy Hattori > who finished 8th in his first IRL race. (he was pretty well kicked > out of CART by CART officials because of his lack of talent) > > > At least the CART race at Michigan 1998 had driver talent. > > ----------- > "My dispute is with the IRL. I will not support the IRL because I think that's > what has disrupted open-wheel racing in America for us. I mean, we are pulling > in different directions and that doesn't make sense." > -- Mario Andretti, May 2000 > > Juan Montoya tells the truth about the Indianapolis Motor Speedway > http://espn.go.com/media/2000/q2/car_000517jm1a.wav > Oval racing is 98% engineering and 2% driver talent. > > Al Unser Jr: The Indy Retirement League Poster-Boy > http://www.speedcenter.com/gallery/gallery98/13midohio/need_an_ashtray_here4 80.jpg

On Mon, 12 Jun 2000 08:59:11 -0700, "Kirk Lane" <[email hidden]> wrote: >Man, you seem BITTER... > >And besides, they could have been racing 3-hp gokarts around a roller-derby >rink for all I care, that was AWESOME RACING!!!!!! Artificial Competition: The use of rules and/or equipment to force passing, multi-race winners and make the talent of participants appear equal. It is used to make a competitive series. The best drivers rarely win. This is something that the IRL is good at doing...emulating NASCAR. It makes me sick to my stomach when series like the IRL brag about lead-changes. LEAD CHANGES DOES NOT NECESSARILY MEAN IT WAS A GOOD RACE. CART does not use this kind of crap on road courses. And until 2000 did not use it on short ovals. When Michael Andretti wins at Mid-Ohio or Alex Zanardi wins at Road America, I KNOW who the best driver was that day. I don't care if there were zero lead changes. ----------- "My dispute is with the IRL. I will not support the IRL because I think that's what has disrupted open-wheel racing in America for us. I mean, we are pulling in different directions and that doesn't make sense." -- Mario Andretti, May 2000 Juan Montoya tells the truth about the Indianapolis Motor Speedway http://espn.go.com/media/2000/q2/car_000517jm1a.wav Oval racing is 98% engineering and 2% driver talent. Al Unser Jr: The Indy Retirement League Poster-Boy http://www.speedcenter.com/gallery/gallery98/13midohio/need_an_ashtray_here480.jpg

Speedy Fast <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]... > On Mon, 12 Jun 2000 08:59:11 -0700, "Kirk Lane" > <[email hidden]> wrote: > > >Man, you seem BITTER... > > > >And besides, they could have been racing 3-hp gokarts around aroller-derby

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> >rink for all I care, that was AWESOME RACING!!!!!! > > > Artificial Competition: The use of rules and/or equipment to force > passing, multi-race winners and make the talent of participants appear > equal. It is used to make a competitive series. The best drivers > rarely win.

2 words for you, "Hanford Device" -- Randy "If you have a home that is mobile and 12 cars that aren't, you might be a redneck."

In article <[email hidden]>, [email hidden] (Brett C. Cammack) wrote: > I suspect that a lot of people who care about open wheel racing in > America are bitter about the rift between CART and IRL. You have them > on one side and those who think CART was ruining the sport on the > other side of the argument, hence you get bashing. Actually, Brett, what I see is a lot of CART fans bashing the IRL, and a lot of IRL fans defending the IRL -- WITHOUT trying to tear down CART, its teams, or its drivers, and WITHOUT resorting to "CART- bashing," if you will. Yes, there is some, but most of the bashing comes from the CART camp, most often -- but you never see any of that from CART's owners, drivers, and participants (with the possible exception of Mario Andretti). > I agree about a good race being worth watching no matter the venue, > but frankly, the best (for me) are ones are the ones I'm in. <g> Go, Brett, go! <G> > Regards, > Brett C. Cammack > That's Racing! Motorsports > Pompano Beach, FL > Sent via Deja.com http://www.deja.com/ Before you buy.

AMEN! Bravo! Speech! Encore! ;-) -- JB In article <[email hidden]>, Jeff Downey <[email hidden]> wrote:

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> I have a hard time understanding all of the series bashing here. > > IRL, CART, Local Track, who cares? > > The racing at Texas was fantastic. I could care less about > arguing who has the greater talent, I watch the racing action. > And what I saw Sunday was very good racing. > > Maybe I'm different in that regard. Hell, I visit a local Go > kart track two or three times a month to watch 12 and 13 year > olds race, because they put on a great show. Now, I'm sure that > they have less talent than Montoya. However, they race the > wheels off of those Karts, and that's what I go to see. > > Bashing a particular series isn't going to change anyone's > mind. And like it or not, the IRL and CART will probably never > see eye to eye. But, loyalty to one particular series shouldn't > ultimately cloud your judgement of good on track racing. > > * Sent from RemarQ http://www.remarq.com The Internet's Discussion

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>Artificial Competition: The use of rules and/or equipment to force >passing, multi-race winners and make the talent of participants appear >equal. It is used to make a competitive series. The best drivers >rarely win. > >This is something that the IRL is good at doing...emulating NASCAR. >

Can YOU say "Hanford device"? bob

Fact remains. The talent is in CART. The ONLY thing IRL has going for it is Indy. I think the results of this years race speaks volumes in terms of the talent issue. AND... there is no doubt the CART/IRL split hurt both series and a unified series is needed. However, I really can't see it happening as long as Tony George is in control of the IRL. -- Scott B. Husted PA-Scott PowerSims.com ICQ# 4395450

On Mon, 12 Jun 2000 23:52:10 GMT, "Randy Wilson" <[email hidden]> wrote:

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>Speedy Fast <[email hidden]> wrote in message >news:[email hidden]... >> On Mon, 12 Jun 2000 08:59:11 -0700, "Kirk Lane" >> <[email hidden]> wrote: >> >> >Man, you seem BITTER... >> > >> >And besides, they could have been racing 3-hp gokarts around a >roller-derby >> >rink for all I care, that was AWESOME RACING!!!!!! >> >> >> Artificial Competition: The use of rules and/or equipment to force >> passing, multi-race winners and make the talent of participants appear >> equal. It is used to make a competitive series. The best drivers >> rarely win. > >2 words for you, "Hanford Device"

Yeah. Re-read my original message. ----------- "My dispute is with the IRL. I will not support the IRL because I think that's what has disrupted open-wheel racing in America for us. I mean, we are pulling in different directions and that doesn't make sense." -- Mario Andretti, May 2000 Juan Montoya tells the truth about the Indianapolis Motor Speedway http://espn.go.com/media/2000/q2/car_000517jm1a.wav Oval racing is 98% engineering and 2% driver talent. Al Unser Jr: The Indy Retirement League Poster-Boy http://www.speedcenter.com/gallery/gallery98/13midohio/need_an_ashtray_here480.jpg

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> On Mon, 12 Jun 2000 23:52:10 GMT, "Randy Wilson" > <[email hidden]> wrote: > > >Speedy Fast <[email hidden]> wrote in message > >news:[email hidden]... > >> On Mon, 12 Jun 2000 08:59:11 -0700, "Kirk Lane" > >> <[email hidden]> wrote: > >> > >> >Man, you seem BITTER... > >> > > >> >And besides, they could have been racing 3-hp gokarts around a > >roller-derby > >> >rink for all I care, that was AWESOME RACING!!!!!! > >> > >> > >> Artificial Competition: The use of rules and/or equipment to force > >> passing, multi-race winners and make the talent of participants appear > >> equal. It is used to make a competitive series. The best drivers > >> rarely win. > > > >2 words for you, "Hanford Device" > > Yeah. Re-read my original message. >

"At least the CART race at Michigan 1998 had driver talent" 2 words for you, "Hanford Device" -- Randy "If you have a home that is mobile and 12 cars that aren't, you might be a redneck."

Can YOU say "Hanford device"? bob

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I have a hard time understanding all of the series bashing here. IRL, CART, Local Track, who cares? The racing at Texas was fantastic. I could care less about arguing who has the greater talent, I watch the racing action. And what I saw Sunday was very good racing. Maybe I'm different in that regard. Hell, I visit a local Go kart track two or three times a month to watch 12 and 13 year olds race, because they put on a great show. Now, I'm sure that they have less talent than Montoya. However, they race the wheels off of those Karts, and that's what I go to see. Bashing a particular series isn't going to change anyone's mind. And like it or not, the IRL and CART will probably never see eye to eye. But, loyalty to one particular series shouldn't ultimately cloud your judgement of good on track racing. * Sent from RemarQ http://www.remarq.com The Internet's Discussion Network * The fastest and easiest way to search and participate in Usenet - Free!

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>In article <[email hidden]>, >So where is it you live again? I'd love to see those Saturday night >racers in your area who regularly that kind of close racing at OVER 200 >MPH. > ><VBG>

Maybe not 200mph, but have you ever seen a Super Modified event up here in the east ??? Open wheel monsters with HUGE HP numbers going wheel to wheel on fairly small tracks. AWESOME racing. That doesn't make them a national top notch touring division. My point was you can have some great racing, that doesn't make you a top touring league of motorsports. >BTW, did you hear about Cheever winning the IROC event on Saturday, >making him the first open-wheeler to win since Little Al way back in >1997? > >;-) Yeah.. and the IROC is such a top notch way to evaluate talent ;) I'm a NASCAR fan and even I can admit that one! Scott PA-Scott PowerSims.com

I suspect that a lot of people who care about open wheel racing in America are bitter about the rift between CART and IRL. You have them on one side and those who think CART was ruining the sport on the other side of the argument, hence you get bashing. I agree about a good race being worth watching no matter the venue, but frankly, the best (for me) are ones are the ones I'm in. <g> Regards, Brett C. Cammack That's Racing! Motorsports Pompano Beach, FL

I too have noticed the bashing is generally one way...kinda like water always flows downhill. But here is my reason: Just before the IRL was formed, all seemed good. Now behind the scenes things may have been chaotic or even on the verge of financial meltdown, but up-front, all seemed good. Indy was indeed the World's greatest race. The sponsors were lining up...Nascar was still number two but coming on awfully fast. The fans knew the drivers, most of the tracks, etc. But the split either caused or exposed the problems in the two series. I yelled long and loud back on the Racing newsgroup years ago that the IRL would be the death of BOTH series. Little by little the sponsorship money will fade away or get grabbed by the Nascar teams in search of replacement money for the Ciggarette companies. I think, I am right in this predicition, it hasn't happened yet, but neither group has the core fan base the old group had. TG(whose name I shant utter)felt he had to bring immeadiate legitimacy to his new series, he chose his only club, albeit a very BIG club, to bring that instant credibility. And that is my beef with the IRL. This 'could' have been a GREAT series, one that teams freely moved back and forth between even with the different cars and regulations. But by using the old 25/33 rule, he effectively killed both parties. Indy 'should' have stayed Indy. Now it should be called indy. The smaller non-fan based sponsors put far more effort into May than the rest of the 12 months of advertising budgeting. Now what do they have to show...I remember cardboard standups of the drivers in stores, I remember month long giveaways and all sorts of commercial buildup to Indy, and this was far away from the track in the Pacific NW. All that is gone now. I enjoy oval racing, but not as much as Road courses...so with the IRL and CART bleeding themselves to death, soon I expect to enjoy neither. So if I have spilled vile toward the IRL in the past...and heaped some on you for defending it...I have a reason or two...I enjoy racing. IRL included. But my racing of choice is gonna suffer and for that I have the CART and IRL bigwigs to thank. I may be overly pessimistic, but I have seen too much upheaval in healthy series all over the world, I cannot expect anything but the complete destruction of open wheel racing in America due to the IRL's original posistion. Sure they have loosened the rules now, and CART has made schedule changes. But even if Penske and other come back next year...we still will have a patient on a pacemaker...buying time, not life. dave henrie

In article <8i8eb3$kj9$[email hidden]>, "Kirk Lane" <[email hidden]> wrote: <LIBERAL SNIP> > And PLEASE, bring it back to a full 4 weeks!!!!! Tony George announced a couple of weeks ago that he is considering a return to a 4-week schedule, or possibly expanding the current format to make it a 2-weekend qualification schedule for 2001 and beyond. This would leave more room for qualifying should there be a rainout on the first weekend, which, thankfully, we haven't had to contend with for the past two years. -- JB Sent via Deja.com http://www.deja.com/ Before you buy.

On Tue, 13 Jun 2000 01:44:53 GMT, "Randy Wilson" <[email hidden]> wrote:

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> > >Speedy Fast <[email hidden]> wrote in message >news:[email hidden]... >> On Mon, 12 Jun 2000 23:52:10 GMT, "Randy Wilson" >> <[email hidden]> wrote: >> >> >Speedy Fast <[email hidden]> wrote in message >> >news:[email hidden]... >> >> On Mon, 12 Jun 2000 08:59:11 -0700, "Kirk Lane" >> >> <[email hidden]> wrote: >> >> >> >> >Man, you seem BITTER... >> >> > >> >> >And besides, they could have been racing 3-hp gokarts around a >> >roller-derby >> >> >rink for all I care, that was AWESOME RACING!!!!!! >> >> >> >> >> >> Artificial Competition: The use of rules and/or equipment to force >> >> passing, multi-race winners and make the talent of participants appear >> >> equal. It is used to make a competitive series. The best drivers >> >> rarely win. >> > >> >2 words for you, "Hanford Device" >> >> Yeah. Re-read my original message. >> >"At least the CART race at Michigan 1998 had driver talent" > >2 words for you, "Hanford Device"

Better try again: ----------speedy fast wrote--------------- CART does not use this kind of crap on road courses. And until 2000 did not use it on short ovals. When Michael Andretti wins at Mid-Ohio or Alex Zanardi wins at Road America, I KNOW who the best driver was that day. I don't care if there were zero lead changes. ----------------------------------------------------- Make sure you read every word. ----------- "My dispute is with the IRL. I will not support the IRL because I think that's what has disrupted open-wheel racing in America for us. I mean, we are pulling in different directions and that doesn't make sense." -- Mario Andretti, May 2000 Juan Montoya tells the truth about the Indianapolis Motor Speedway http://espn.go.com/media/2000/q2/car_000517jm1a.wav Oval racing is 98% engineering and 2% driver talent. Al Unser Jr: The Indy Retirement League Poster-Boy http://www.speedcenter.com/gallery/gallery98/13midohio/need_an_ashtray_here480.jpg

On Tue, 13 Jun 2000 13:04:46 GMT, [email hidden] wrote:

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>>Artificial Competition: The use of rules and/or equipment to force >>passing, multi-race winners and make the talent of participants appear >>equal. It is used to make a competitive series. The best drivers >>rarely win. >> >>This is something that the IRL is good at doing...emulating NASCAR. >> > Can YOU say "Hanford device"? > > bob

Better re-read my message. ---------speedy fast wrote-------------- CART does not use this kind of crap on road courses. And until 2000 did not use it on short ovals. When Michael Andretti wins at Mid-Ohio or Alex Zanardi wins at Road America, I KNOW who the best driver was that day. I don't care if there were zero lead changes. --------------------------------------------------- Make sure you read every word. ----------- "My dispute is with the IRL. I will not support the IRL because I think that's what has disrupted open-wheel racing in America for us. I mean, we are pulling in different directions and that doesn't make sense." -- Mario Andretti, May 2000 Juan Montoya tells the truth about the Indianapolis Motor Speedway http://espn.go.com/media/2000/q2/car_000517jm1a.wav Oval racing is 98% engineering and 2% driver talent. Al Unser Jr: The Indy Retirement League Poster-Boy http://www.speedcenter.com/gallery/gallery98/13midohio/need_an_ashtray_here480.jpg

On Tue, 13 Jun 2000 01:44:53 GMT, "Randy Wilson"

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>> On Mon, 12 Jun 2000 23:52:10 GMT, "Randy Wilson" >> >> On Mon, 12 Jun 2000 08:59:11 -0700, "Kirk Lane" >> >> >Man, you seem BITTER... >> >> >And besides, they could have been racing 3-hp gokarts around a >> >roller-derby >> >> >rink for all I care, that was AWESOME RACING!!!!!! >> >> Artificial Competition: The use of rules and/or equipment to force >> >> passing, multi-race winners and make the talent of participants appear >> >> equal. It is used to make a competitive series. The best drivers >> >> rarely win. >> >2 words for you, "Hanford Device" >> Yeah. Re-read my original message. >"At least the CART race at Michigan 1998 had driver talent" >2 words for you, "Hanford Device"

Better try again: ----------speedy fast wrote--------------- CART does not use this kind of ***on road courses. And until 2000 did not use it on short ovals. When Michael Andretti wins at Mid-Ohio or Alex Zanardi wins at Road America, I KNOW who the best driver was that day. I don't care if there were zero lead changes. ----------------------------------------------------- Make sure you read every word. ----------- "My dispute is with the IRL. I will not support the IRL because I think that's what has disrupted open-wheel racing in America for us. I mean, we are pulling in different directions and that doesn't make sense." -- Mario Andretti, May 2000 Juan Montoya tells the truth about the Indianapolis Motor Speedway http://espn.go.com/media/2000/q2/car_000517jm1a.wav Oval racing is 98% engineering and 2% driver talent. Al Unser Jr: The Indy Retirement League Poster-Boy http://www.speedcenter.com/gallery/gallery98/13midohio/need_an_ashtray_here480.jpg

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> TG(whose name I shant utter)felt he had to bring immeadiate legitimacy > to his new series, he chose his only club, albeit a very BIG club, to > bring that instant credibility. And that is my beef with the IRL. This > 'could' have been a GREAT series, one that teams freely moved back and > forth between even with the different cars and regulations. But by > using the old 25/33 rule, he effectively killed both parties. > Indy 'should' have stayed Indy. Now it should be called indy. > The smaller non-fan based sponsors put far more effort into May than the > rest of the 12 months of advertising budgeting. Now what do they have > to show...I remember cardboard standups of the drivers in stores, I > remember month long giveaways and all sorts of commercial buildup to > Indy, and this was far away from the track in the Pacific NW. > All that is gone now. I enjoy oval racing, but not as much as Road > courses...so with the IRL and CART bleeding themselves to death, soon I > expect to enjoy neither.

True, all true. IMO, Indy should really be a 'non-series-affiliated' race. Sure, different series could count it as a points race - I mean, F1 drivers could get points for it at one time - but it should really be an open race, with a set of rules that should be much more open than they are now, to permit drivers with all sorts of different vehicles to run at the race. Possibly even so open as to allow all three major open-wheel factions - CART, IRL, F1 - to have their cars on the track competing with each other. Equalization rules to slow CART and F1 down to the IRL speeds - simply new popoff valves for the CART guys and maybe rev limiters or weight increases for the F1 boys. Now wouldn't THAT be a return to greatness - Shumacher in his Ferrari, Montoya in his Lola-Toyota, and Ray in his Dallara-Aurora all diving for the lead going into turn 1, followed closely by Gil de Ferran with a Reynard-Mercedes (the infamous pushrod one of course =), Mika Hakkinen in his McLaren-Mercedes (the 19,000 RPM one =), and (dang, not a Mercedes in IRL =) Eddie Cheever in that Dallara-Datsun...er...Infiniti =) I'm drooling right now at the cacophony of sights and sounds =) And PLEASE, bring it back to a full 4 weeks!!!!! -- Kirk Lane [email hidden] GPLRank: 229.48 ICQ: 28171652 AIM: Kirker64 (IM me twice so I can reply...using a beta client) "The time has come for me to kill this game Now open wide and say my name" - "Space Lord", Monster Magnet

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>In article <8i8eb3$kj9$[email hidden]>, > "Kirk Lane" <[email hidden]> wrote: > ><LIBERAL SNIP> > >> And PLEASE, bring it back to a full 4 weeks!!!!! > >Tony George announced a couple of weeks ago that he is considering a >return to a 4-week schedule, or possibly expanding the current format >to make it a 2-weekend qualification schedule for 2001 and beyond. >This would leave more room for qualifying should there be a rainout on >the first weekend, which, thankfully, we haven't had to contend with >for the past two years. > >-- JB >

IMHO Tony is just trying to find a way to get CART to not be able to come back and make his series look bad next year. ----------------------------------------- Dan Belcher Team Racing Unlimited http://simcrash.00game.com