EA NASCAR Demo Is Released

http://www.gamespot.com/?tag=gs_gsbc_gshome -- David G Fisher

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Run NASCAR SimRacing Demo.exe and follow the on-screen prompts. Note the folder to which you extracted the installation files. 2. Once you have completed the above step, go the directory to which you extracted the install files to and run setup.exe. Follow the on screen prompts. 3. When the installation is finished, the installation program adds a program group called EA SPORTS\NASCAR SimRacing Demo to your Start\Programs menu, and a shortcut to your desktop. Click on this shortcut or alternatively click on the start button on your Windows task bar. Under Programs\EA SPORTS\NASCAR SimRacing Demo select NASCAR SimRacing Demo to play. DIRECTX ======= NASCAR SimRacing Demo requires DirectX version 9.0c or higher to be installed on your personal computer in order to run. If your sound card or video card does not support DirectX 9.0c or higher, please contact your hardware vendor. UNINSTALL ========= To uninstall NASCAR SimRacing Demo: 1. 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The 3D Setup shortcut is located in the Programs\EA SPORTS\NASCAR SimRacing Demo start menu. 3D Setup will test your system for the presence of supported video devices (this may be accompanied by a black screen flash on your monitor). When 3D Setup appears, click the OK button to select the default video device, or choose an alternative 3D accelerator and/or rendering resolution by clicking on it and then clicking OK. If an unsupported video device or other problem is detected by the 3D Setup program, you will be informed that this is the case. TROUBLE SHOOTING ================ If you increase the settings of your display options and experience graphical problems and/or decreased performance and have the latest drivers, we recommend setting your Display options back to their defaults. Users of L.C.D. displays, especially laptop displays, may experience noticeably decreased performance when running the game at any resolution other than the native resolution of the L.C.D. display which is usually 1280x1024. Users with Full Screen Anti-Aliasing (FSAA) enabled on video cards that support this feature may notice occasional minor graphical issues - we recommend that FSAA is disabled when playing NASCAR SimRacing Demo. 3D Setup will analyze your video systems ability to render with Full Screen Anti-Aliasing (FSAA) enabled and in some cases disallow the option based upon the detected hardware and drivers. Users of NVIDIA video cards utilizing the NVIDIA Forceware 66.93 or 66.94 drivers and AMD processors without SSE support may experience various graphical problems. These problems can be avoided by using an older version of the NVIDIA Forceware drivers. 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I don't know what it is with the EA graphics. It feels different than the other EA NASCAR's but the graphics are much the same. Lots of jagged edges even at 1600x1200 4AA. I'll reserve the driving judgments until I have a few more laps in. Certainly disappointing graphics. "David G Fisher" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]... > > http://www.gamespot.com/?tag=gs_gsbc_gshome > -- > David G Fisher > >

First impressions: 1. Jaggy graphics 2. Spectator - no cockpit view 3. Show stopper - only 2 joysticks so my Speed7s aren't recognised :( 4. Menu and general interface much better than anything EA before. If I feel like reassigning my pedals O'll do some laps tomorrow. Regards "David G Fisher" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]... > > http://www.gamespot.com/?tag=gs_gsbc_gshome > -- > David G Fisher > >

Didn't notice too jaggy of graphics. Running 1600*1200 with 4X AA. Looked better than I expected. Refresh rate stuck at 60 though. "Neil Charlton" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:css013$c3k$[email hidden]...

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> First impressions: > > 1. Jaggy graphics > > 2. Spectator - no cockpit view > > 3. Show stopper - only 2 joysticks so my Speed7s aren't recognised :( > > 4. Menu and general interface much better than anything EA before. > > If I feel like reassigning my pedals O'll do some laps tomorrow. > > Regards > > "David G Fisher" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > news:[email hidden]... >> >> http://www.gamespot.com/?tag=gs_gsbc_gshome >> -- >> David G Fisher >> >> > >

Alt F for frame rate if anyone is interested. "Schooner" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:IAfId.15564$Qb.1075@edtnps89...

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> Didn't notice too jaggy of graphics. Running 1600*1200 with 4X AA. > Looked better than I expected. Refresh rate stuck at 60 though. > > "Neil Charlton" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > news:css013$c3k$[email hidden]... >> First impressions: >> >> 1. Jaggy graphics >> >> 2. Spectator - no cockpit view >> >> 3. Show stopper - only 2 joysticks so my Speed7s aren't recognised :( >> >> 4. Menu and general interface much better than anything EA before. >> >> If I feel like reassigning my pedals O'll do some laps tomorrow. >> >> Regards >> >> "David G Fisher" <[email hidden]> wrote in message >> news:[email hidden]... >>> >>> http://www.gamespot.com/?tag=gs_gsbc_gshome >>> -- >>> David G Fisher >>> >>> >> >> > >

The demo locks up my machine solid. From what I can tell though, it ain't no GTR. ;-) -- Richard "ZZ" Busch Member: Screamers Racing League oAo AoA MARA GTR GT Rank +41.931 NGT Rank +84.383 GT Rank Monster +1341.080 GPL Rank + 14.768 MoGPL Rank + 308.654 N2003 Rank -18.8060 ---------------- Remember racecar is racecar spelled backward -----------------

Wasn't that thrilled with the graphics either, and the Indy setup was barely drivable. I have been following two EA sim discussions at OLR. The first is one by Bob Stanley regarding the physics from the full game http://www.onlineracin.com/forum/tm.asp?m=36752 and the second is a new one regarding the demo http://www.onlineracin.com/forum/tm.asp?m=37356&mpage=2&key= I will wait and see what Stanley and Lomas have to say about the demo and how it compares to the full version before I start drawing any conclusions. They certainly will know the differences. I also want to try some different setups with the demo. Others in the demo discussion at OLR have had the same exact experience with the Indy setup as I did. It may be that, for the ten thousandth time, a subpar demo has been released for a PC auto sim. -- David G Fisher "Neil Charlton" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:css013$c3k$[email hidden]... > First impressions: > > 1. Jaggy graphics > > 2. Spectator - no cockpit view > > 3. Show stopper - only 2 joysticks so my Speed7s aren't recognised :( > > 4. Menu and general interface much better than anything EA before. > > If I feel like reassigning my pedals O'll do some laps tomorrow. > > Regards > > "David G Fisher" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > news:[email hidden]... > > > > http://www.gamespot.com/?tag=gs_gsbc_gshome > > -- > > David G Fisher > > > > > >

control does not feel right, graphic are okay at 1600x1200x32 4x AA, and frame rate is high. P4 3.02 1gig Ram 6800GT 256 meg card Logitech Driving Force Pro Act Labs Pedals "Schooner" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:IAfId.15564$Qb.1075@edtnps89...

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> Didn't notice too jaggy of graphics. Running 1600*1200 with 4X AA. > Looked better than I expected. Refresh rate stuck at 60 though. > > "Neil Charlton" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > news:css013$c3k$[email hidden]... >> First impressions: >> >> 1. Jaggy graphics >> >> 2. Spectator - no cockpit view >> >> 3. Show stopper - only 2 joysticks so my Speed7s aren't recognised :( >> >> 4. Menu and general interface much better than anything EA before. >> >> If I feel like reassigning my pedals O'll do some laps tomorrow. >> >> Regards >> >> "David G Fisher" <[email hidden]> wrote in message >> news:[email hidden]... >>> >>> http://www.gamespot.com/?tag=gs_gsbc_gshome >>> -- >>> David G Fisher >>> >>> >> >> > >

Neil Charlton wrote: > 2. Spectator - no cockpit view its just a game..move along -- "For instance I can't think of the last time I actually paid for a copy of Windows." -- James Calivar

And for those, like me, who hate signing up all over the net, ftp://ftp.ea.com/pub/easports/demos/nascar2005/NASCAR_SimRacing_Demo.exe Haven't had a chance to try it yet.

"David G Fisher" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]... > > http://www.gamespot.com/?tag=gs_gsbc_gshome > -- > David G Fisher > > I'm not impressed. Bad graphics, I could not find a way to turn on the spotter, can't see shit in the mirror, sounds ok, but could be better, dead pit crew. I'll leave the setups and driveability to more experinced simmers, but the race setup seemed too loose to me. It has a long way to go to beat N2003 IMO. bluestringer

Thank you "JP" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:EWgId.32$[email hidden]... > And for those, like me, who hate signing up all over the net, > ftp://ftp.ea.com/pub/easports/demos/nascar2005/NASCAR_SimRacing_Demo.exe > > Haven't had a chance to try it yet. > >

it has potential, just that the default setups are horrible, the more I drive it the better it seems to get. Whats up with the sound, can barely hear my own engine? thought the sounds were suppose to be the best ever? "JimC" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:gHhId.3373$[email hidden]...

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> Thank you > > "JP" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > news:EWgId.32$[email hidden]... >> And for those, like me, who hate signing up all over the net, >> ftp://ftp.ea.com/pub/easports/demos/nascar2005/NASCAR_SimRacing_Demo.exe >> >> Haven't had a chance to try it yet. >> >> > >

Only a few laps on both tracks, but so far, like what I've seen. - ditto on the graphics comments. - haven't noticed the setups being anything terrible. - no controller problems at all (TSW2 stock) - but until the online is known/tried, who cares <g>

"JP" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:EMiId.44$[email hidden]... > Only a few laps on both tracks, but so far, like what I've seen. > > - ditto on the graphics comments. > - haven't noticed the setups being anything terrible. > - no controller problems at all (TSW2 stock) > - but until the online is known/tried, who cares <g> Forgot this; really like the realistic way to recover from a spin, unlike 03. > >

"JP" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:EWgId.32$[email hidden]... > And for those, like me, who hate signing up all over the net, > ftp://ftp.ea.com/pub/easports/demos/nascar2005/NASCAR_SimRacing_Demo.exe > > Haven't had a chance to try it yet. Thanks for the url. Elrikk

Show stopper - only 2 joysticks so my Speed7s aren't recognised My Speed 7 and Momo force work fine. Haven't tried the BRD wheel yet "Neil Charlton" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:css013$c3k$[email hidden]...

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> First impressions: > > 1. Jaggy graphics > > 2. Spectator - no cockpit view > > 3. Show stopper - only 2 joysticks so my Speed7s aren't recognised :( > > 4. Menu and general interface much better than anything EA before. > > If I feel like reassigning my pedals O'll do some laps tomorrow. > > Regards > > "David G Fisher" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > news:[email hidden]... >> >> http://www.gamespot.com/?tag=gs_gsbc_gshome >> -- >> David G Fisher >> >> > >

As mentioned above, but worth noting as it was something they got right: Controller input (setup) is excellent. Even my TSW2, which usually causes "some" problems right out of the box, worked flawlessly. Simply select the item, push, turn or click the controller and away you go. Almost Papy like! Recovery from a spin actually works, you know opposite lock! Wow! Downsides: This quote: "Users of L.C.D. displays, especially laptop displays, may experience noticeably decreased performance when running the game at any resolution other than the native resolution of the L.C.D. display which is usually 1280x1024." That was posted above from the readme. Guess what? There is no 1280x1024 mode offered. The highest I saw was 1280x960, both 16 and 32 bit.

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> As mentioned above, but worth noting as it was something they got > right: > > Controller input (setup) is excellent. Even my TSW2, which usually > causes "some" problems right out of the box, worked flawlessly. Simply > select the item, push, turn or click the controller and away you go. > Almost Papy like! > > Recovery from a spin actually works, you know opposite lock! Wow! > > > Downsides: > > This quote: "Users of L.C.D. displays, especially laptop displays, may > experience > noticeably decreased performance when running the game at any > resolution > other than the > native resolution of the L.C.D. display which is usually 1280x1024." > > That was posted above from the readme. Guess what? There is no > 1280x1024 mode offered. The highest I saw was 1280x960, both 16 and 32 > bit.

Same problem for me. It looks pretty good in 1280x960 32 bit though, and frame rates are high. Looks better than N2003 in a lot of ways. People need to make sure they have anisotropic filtering turned on in display properties. -- David G Fisher

Maybe it's just me, but I figured I'd ask. Does anyone get the impression that driving the cars it feels like drving a boat? The first impression I got was this thing is floating and wallowing around all over. I had no sensation of what was happening. I've never driven a stock car, but I never thought it would feel like driving a boat. Is it me or the setups? Maybe it's the new physics? So far it just feels like something is wrong with the demo to me. Does someone have a decent setup for the tracks? -- Richard "ZZ" Busch Member: Screamers Racing League oAo AoA MARA GTR GT Rank +41.931 NGT Rank +84.383 GT Rank Monster +1341.080 GPL Rank + 14.768 MoGPL Rank + 308.654 N2003 Rank -18.8060 ---------------- Remember racecar is racecar spelled backward ----------------- ----== Posted via Newsfeeds.Com - Unlimited-Uncensored-Secure Usenet News==---- http://www.newsfeeds.com The #1 Newsgroup Service in the World! 120,000+ Newsgroups ----= East and West-Coast Server Farms - Total Privacy via Encryption =----

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> Downsides: > > This quote: "Users of L.C.D. displays, especially laptop displays, may > experience > noticeably decreased performance when running the game at any > resolution > other than the > native resolution of the L.C.D. display which is usually 1280x1024." > > That was posted above from the readme. Guess what? There is no > 1280x1024 mode offered. The highest I saw was 1280x960, both 16 and 32 > bit. > >

Maybe that's why the warning is there. 1280x1024 mode doesn't exist, so the image quality will suffer. Looks like I won't be trying the demo then (but it looks like I wouldn't have been impressed anyway, so no great loss).

Looks good? For me it looks worse than N3 at 1280, its so bad that you cant even judge where the track is going to go. _____ Steve "Military intelligence, two words combined that can't make sense." David G Fisher wrote: > Same problem for me. It looks pretty good in 1280x960 32 bit though, and > frame rates are high. Looks better than N2003 in a lot of ways. People need > to make sure they have anisotropic filtering turned on in display > properties.

John, You need to try it for your won edification. I have run it since it came out and am not reviewer and won't attempt it. What I have read previously is true, and false. It was only after I saw, drove, messed with all the settings that I satisfied my own curiosity. I appreciate what you say (I read this group daily and have for years, just don't post much). So do a girl racer a favor and try it. I am interested in YOUR opinion, not your opinion based on others comments... ;-) "John Simmons" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]...

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> In article <[email hidden]>, > [email hidden] says... > >> Downsides: >> >> This quote: "Users of L.C.D. displays, especially laptop displays, may >> experience >> noticeably decreased performance when running the game at any >> resolution >> other than the >> native resolution of the L.C.D. display which is usually 1280x1024." >> >> That was posted above from the readme. Guess what? There is no >> 1280x1024 mode offered. The highest I saw was 1280x960, both 16 and 32 >> bit. >> >> > > Maybe that's why the warning is there. 1280x1024 mode doesn't exist, so > the image quality will suffer. > > Looks like I won't be trying the demo then (but it looks like I wouldn't > have been impressed anyway, so no great loss).

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> Maybe it's just me, but I figured I'd ask. Does anyone get the > impression that driving the cars it feels like drving a boat? The first > impression I got was this thing is floating and wallowing around all > over. I had no sensation of what was happening. > I've never driven a stock car, but I never thought it would feel like > driving a boat. Is it me or the setups? Maybe it's the new physics? So > far it just feels like something is wrong with the demo to me. > > Does someone have a decent setup for the tracks? >

I get that same feeling, or lack of ZZ. Larry was just telling me that he feels like hes floating in GTR, I can only imagine what his impression of this thing is :) IMO its a horrible effort and totally on par with all the other EA crap. I dont think EA has ANY clue what a true simmer wants. Mitch -- Remove "nospam." to reply. SuSE 9.2 Pro.

Don't much care for the login/account nonsense, but nice server! Pulling down at 450KB/Sec -Larry "David G Fisher" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]... > > http://www.gamespot.com/?tag=gs_gsbc_gshome > -- > David G Fisher > >

Welcome to Nascar :) -Larry "ZZ" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:41f24983$[email hidden]...

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> Maybe it's just me, but I figured I'd ask. Does anyone get the impression > that driving the cars it feels like drving a boat? The first impression I > got was this thing is floating and wallowing around all over. I had no > sensation of what was happening. > I've never driven a stock car, but I never thought it would feel like > driving a boat. Is it me or the setups? Maybe it's the new physics? So far > it just feels like something is wrong with the demo to me. > > Does someone have a decent setup for the tracks? > > -- > Richard "ZZ" Busch > > Member: > Screamers Racing League > oAo > AoA > MARA GTR > GT Rank +41.931 > NGT Rank +84.383 > GT Rank Monster +1341.080 > GPL Rank + 14.768 > MoGPL Rank + 308.654 > N2003 Rank -18.8060 > ---------------- > Remember racecar is racecar spelled backward > ----------------- > > > > ----== Posted via Newsfeeds.Com - Unlimited-Uncensored-Secure Usenet > News==---- > http://www.newsfeeds.com The #1 Newsgroup Service in the World! 120,000+ > Newsgroups > ----= East and West-Coast Server Farms - Total Privacy via Encryption > =----

Not floating. More like flying over the surface. Hovercraft! That's it! That's what an ISI based game feels like to me :) -Larry "Mitch_A" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:KHvId.14131$[email hidden]...

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> ZZ wrote: > >> Maybe it's just me, but I figured I'd ask. Does anyone get the >> impression that driving the cars it feels like drving a boat? The first >> impression I got was this thing is floating and wallowing around all >> over. I had no sensation of what was happening. >> I've never driven a stock car, but I never thought it would feel like >> driving a boat. Is it me or the setups? Maybe it's the new physics? So >> far it just feels like something is wrong with the demo to me. >> >> Does someone have a decent setup for the tracks? >> > > I get that same feeling, or lack of ZZ. Larry was just telling me that he > feels like hes floating in GTR, I can only imagine what his impression of > this thing is :) IMO its a horrible effort and totally on par with all > the > other EA crap. > > I dont think EA has ANY clue what a true simmer wants. > > Mitch > -- > Remove "nospam." to reply. > SuSE 9.2 Pro.

Change your video settings... Bill Bollinger www.gsxn.com "Edgecrusher" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]...

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> > Looks good? For me it looks worse than N3 at 1280, its so bad that you > cant even judge where the track is going to go. > _____ > > Steve > > "Military intelligence, two words combined that can't make sense." > > > > > David G Fisher wrote: >> Same problem for me. It looks pretty good in 1280x960 32 bit though, and >> frame rates are high. Looks better than N2003 in a lot of ways. People >> need >> to make sure they have anisotropic filtering turned on in display >> properties.

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> John, > > You need to try it for your won edification. I have run it since it came out > and am not reviewer and won't attempt it. > > What I have read previously is true, and false. It was only after I saw, > drove, messed with all the settings that I satisfied my own curiosity. > > I appreciate what you say (I read this group daily and have for years, just > don't post much). > > So do a girl racer a favor and try it. I am interested in YOUR opinion, not > your opinion based on others comments... > > ;-)

First, EA's entry into this gaming genre has been anything but impressive, or even noteworthy. Historically, their nascar games have always sucked, so it shouldn't surprise you to see so many people assuming it's gonna suck without even seeing the demo. Second, I have an LCD screen and I run everythig at 1280x1024. I can tell you right now that if I'm not happy with the visuals, it doesn't matter WHAT the rest of the demo might have in it. Since the demo doesn't allow me to run the game at the monitor's native resolution, the visuals will damn sure be less than impressive. Third, a lot of people who's opinions I respect are saying it's crap (or no better than the crap we saw last year from EA). I know for a fact that most of those people have the same outlook I do. This saves me a lot of time. Fourth, I heard that EA said the demo isn't anything like what the final product would be like. If that's the case, why the hell should I waste my time looking at a demo that does not truely represent the product? Why does it matter whether or not you're a "girl racer"? I'm here for sim racing, not pandering to women's sensitivities (or anyone else's for that matter).

Thanks for the reply "John Simmons" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]...

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> In article <eduId.34033$[email hidden]>, > [email hidden] says... >> John, >> >> You need to try it for your won edification. I have run it since it came >> out >> and am not reviewer and won't attempt it. >> >> What I have read previously is true, and false. It was only after I saw, >> drove, messed with all the settings that I satisfied my own curiosity. >> >> I appreciate what you say (I read this group daily and have for years, >> just >> don't post much). >> >> So do a girl racer a favor and try it. I am interested in YOUR opinion, >> not >> your opinion based on others comments... >> >> ;-) > > > First, EA's entry into this gaming genre has been anything but > impressive, or even noteworthy. Historically, their nascar games have > always sucked, so it shouldn't surprise you to see so many people > assuming it's gonna suck without even seeing the demo. > > Second, I have an LCD screen and I run everythig at 1280x1024. I can > tell you right now that if I'm not happy with the visuals, it doesn't > matter WHAT the rest of the demo might have in it. Since the demo > doesn't allow me to run the game at the monitor's native resolution, the > visuals will damn sure be less than impressive. > > Third, a lot of people who's opinions I respect are saying it's crap (or > no better than the crap we saw last year from EA). I know for a fact > that most of those people have the same outlook I do. This saves me a > lot of time. > > Fourth, I heard that EA said the demo isn't anything like what the final > product would be like. If that's the case, why the hell should I waste > my time looking at a demo that does not truely represent the product? > > Why does it matter whether or not you're a "girl racer"? I'm here for > sim racing, not pandering to women's sensitivities (or anyone else's for > that matter). >

Yes ,exactly like a boat,I really wanted this to be a great sim but I.m afraid its business as usual at EA. ZZ wrote:

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> Maybe it's just me, but I figured I'd ask. Does anyone get the > impression that driving the cars it feels like drving a boat? The first > impression I got was this thing is floating and wallowing around all > over. I had no sensation of what was happening. > I've never driven a stock car, but I never thought it would feel like > driving a boat. Is it me or the setups? Maybe it's the new physics? So > far it just feels like something is wrong with the demo to me. > > Does someone have a decent setup for the tracks? >

On Sat, 22 Jan 2005 17:03:38 GMT, Mitch_A <[email hidden]> wrote:

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>ZZ wrote: > >> Maybe it's just me, but I figured I'd ask. Does anyone get the >> impression that driving the cars it feels like drving a boat? The first >> impression I got was this thing is floating and wallowing around all >> over. I had no sensation of what was happening. >> I've never driven a stock car, but I never thought it would feel like >> driving a boat. Is it me or the setups? Maybe it's the new physics? So >> far it just feels like something is wrong with the demo to me. >> >> Does someone have a decent setup for the tracks? >> > >I get that same feeling, or lack of ZZ. Larry was just telling me that he >feels like hes floating in GTR, I can only imagine what his impression of >this thing is :) IMO its a horrible effort and totally on par with all the >other EA crap. > >I dont think EA has ANY clue what a true simmer wants. > >Mitch

I thought you were one of their more staunch defenders Mitch? ;-) JD

Anyone else only getting 16 bit as options? -Larry "John Simmons" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]...

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> In article <[email hidden]>, > [email hidden] says... > >> Downsides: >> >> This quote: "Users of L.C.D. displays, especially laptop displays, may >> experience >> noticeably decreased performance when running the game at any >> resolution >> other than the >> native resolution of the L.C.D. display which is usually 1280x1024." >> >> That was posted above from the readme. Guess what? There is no >> 1280x1024 mode offered. The highest I saw was 1280x960, both 16 and 32 >> bit. >> >> > > Maybe that's why the warning is there. 1280x1024 mode doesn't exist, so > the image quality will suffer. > > Looks like I won't be trying the demo then (but it looks like I wouldn't > have been impressed anyway, so no great loss).

"Larry" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:gLEId.33246$jn.2730@lakeread06... > Anyone else only getting 16 bit as options? > > -Larry Not here, but it does only give me a max of 1024X768 with a Ti4400. Monitor goes to 16X12, which is accessible in other games. Odd. SB

John DiFool wrote: > > > I thought you were one of their more staunch defenders Mitch? ;-) > > JD > Hehe. Not at all. I just want something better than NR2003 and as far as I can tell NSR isnt going to be it. I always thought F1C and its mods were decent and I LOVE both the R-Factor and GTR demos but this seems a step back not forward. The couple things I did like is the sensation of speed and the UI :) Its kinda like Linux. If you even mention once you think XP is still a superior desktop solution you are labeled forever :) Even though Ive never said anything but GTR and R-Factor surpass 03. I love Papy and its too bad they no longer exist to give us NR2005 which Im sure would be leaps beyond NSR or 03 but they dont and all I can do is hope someday things improve. Ive seen here on RAS that this demo doesnt reflect the final version but history shows us little change from a demo to the final. Mitch

So you have a 32 bit option ? -Larry "Steve Blankenship" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]...

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> "Larry" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > news:gLEId.33246$jn.2730@lakeread06... >> Anyone else only getting 16 bit as options? >> >> -Larry > > Not here, but it does only give me a max of 1024X768 with a Ti4400. > Monitor > goes to 16X12, which is accessible in other games. Odd. > > SB > >

> Anyone else only getting 16 bit as options? Not saying you wouldn't have caught this, but NSR puts 32-bit resolutions first. This is contrary to the F1C titles which always listed them after the 16-bit ones. Alan

I have and it always default back to the low res settings. _____ Steve "Military intelligence, two words combined that can't make sense." Bill Bollinger wrote: > Change your video settings... > > Bill Bollinger > www.gsxn.com >

Yes, but like 16bit, it only goes up to 1024X768 (which is less than I run any game at). Tried kicking the desktop up to 1600X1200 before running the 3D Config since I usually have it at 1024X768 and thought that might be the issue, but it didn't help. Could easily run higher res in the game but the lame config util won't allow it. "Larry" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:RSFId.33325$jn.5675@lakeread06...

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> So you have a 32 bit option ? > > -Larry > > "Steve Blankenship" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > news:[email hidden]... > > "Larry" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > > news:gLEId.33246$jn.2730@lakeread06... > >> Anyone else only getting 16 bit as options? > >> > >> -Larry > > > > Not here, but it does only give me a max of 1024X768 with a Ti4400. > > Monitor > > goes to 16X12, which is accessible in other games. Odd. > > > > SB > > > > > >

On Sun, 23 Jan 2005 08:47:21 -0500, "Steve Blankenship" <[email hidden]> wrote: >Yes, but like 16bit, it only goes up to 1024X768 (which is less than I run >any game at). Tried kicking the desktop up to 1600X1200 before running the >3D Config since I usually have it at 1024X768 and thought that might be the >issue, but it didn't help. Could easily run higher res in the game but the >lame config util won't allow it. I have 1600 x 1200 available in the 3D config utility, as well as the 32-bit modes. Radeon 9800 with latest 5.1 drivers.

> Second, I have an LCD screen and I run everythig at 1280x1024. I can > tell you right now that if I'm not happy with the visuals, it doesn't > matter WHAT the rest of the demo might have in it. Since the demo > doesn't allow me to run the game at the monitor's native resolution, the > visuals will damn sure be less than impressive. > I have a 19" LCD and can run the demo at 1600x1200 32bit with no issues. Very sharp graphics. However as you have as well, the native resolution on my LCD is 1280x1024 and that is the resolution that I run the sim. Graphics are very good. Now the sim itself is another story...lol

Same setup here. Weird! -Larry "clancy" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]...

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> On Sun, 23 Jan 2005 08:47:21 -0500, "Steve Blankenship" > <[email hidden]> wrote: > >>Yes, but like 16bit, it only goes up to 1024X768 (which is less than I run >>any game at). Tried kicking the desktop up to 1600X1200 before running >>the >>3D Config since I usually have it at 1024X768 and thought that might be >>the >>issue, but it didn't help. Could easily run higher res in the game but >>the >>lame config util won't allow it. > > I have 1600 x 1200 available in the 3D config utility, as well as the > 32-bit modes. > > Radeon 9800 with latest 5.1 drivers.

Aha! That's probably it :) -Larry "Alan Le" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:_oHId.4933$[email hidden]...

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>> Anyone else only getting 16 bit as options? > > Not saying you wouldn't have caught this, but NSR puts 32-bit resolutions > first. This is contrary to the F1C titles which always listed them after > the 16-bit ones. > > Alan > >