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20 posts by 10 people · 19 Jun 2000 - 26 Jun 2000 06:29 UTC

Chasing a negative GPLRank handicap at the Ring

Players shared progress towards a negative GPLRank handicap, mostly through big gains at the Nurburgring. Sebastien Tixier cut his Ring time from 8:51 to 8:18 over a week, and others discussed plateaus and consistency, with Don Scurlock noting a league driver who lapped the Ring almost identically lap after lap. Uwe Schuerkamp explained the site's driver search.

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Jason Monds 19 Jun 2000#261862
You've just jumped another plateau. Now try getting under 8 seconds or 8:10 for that matter ;-) It will not be that easy. I stayed at 8:30 myself. Jason. S�bastien Tixier wrote:
Quoted text (7 lines)> Hi ! > > This WE i improved my Ring PB from 8,51 to 8,31, it's a shame that with > the ring you can so easily wins lot of seconds in so short time when you > only wins few tenth at monza in 1/2 weeks :o( > > Seb #186
-- Jason Monds http://www.proracingclub.com - Pro Racing Club! (N3, GPL) http://members.home.net/stuff.mondsj/csp - Car Sim Project (Please remove 'no extra spork' when replying)
EldredP 19 Jun 2000#261876
In article <8F584DE7Ddscurlock@news>, [email hidden] (Don Scurlock) writes:
Quoted text (13 lines)>>Hi ! >> >>This WE i improved my Ring PB from 8,51 to 8,31, it's a shame that >>with the ring you can so easily wins lot of seconds in so short time >>when you only wins few tenth at monza in 1/2 weeks :o( >> >>Seb #186 > >Your getting into the area where getting any more seconds out of the >Ring is going to get a lot harder. And then there's consistency. You >can probably do 5 laps of Monza within a second or two of your best >lap. Try that at the Ring. >
Sure, it's easy for YOU to gain seconds. I'm not there yet... -- Tiger Stadium R.I.P. 1912-1999 Homepage - http://www.umich.edu/~epickett GPL hcp. 1:35.98 minutes-GPLRank:378 as of 6/18/00 Never argue with an idiot. He brings you down to his level, then beats you with experience... Remove SPAM-OFF to reply.
Sebastien Tixier 19 Jun 2000 07:13 UTC#261927
Hi ! This WE i improved my Ring PB from 8,51 to 8,31, it's a shame that with the ring you can so easily wins lot of seconds in so short time when you only wins few tenth at monza in 1/2 weeks :o( Seb #186
Don Scurlock 19 Jun 2000 14:35 UTC#261985
[email hidden] (S�bastien Tixier) wrote in <[email hidden]>:
Quoted text (7 lines)>Hi ! > >This WE i improved my Ring PB from 8,51 to 8,31, it's a shame that >with the ring you can so easily wins lot of seconds in so short time >when you only wins few tenth at monza in 1/2 weeks :o( > >Seb #186
Your getting into the area where getting any more seconds out of the Ring is going to get a lot harder. And then there's consistency. You can probably do 5 laps of Monza within a second or two of your best lap. Try that at the Ring. -- Don Scurlock Vancouver,B.C. GPLRank -1.90 Come see how you rate, at the GPLRank site http://newgplrank.schuerkamp.de/
Kevin Gavitt 19 Jun 2000 16:19 UTC#261859
"Don Scurlock" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:8F584DE7Ddscurlock@news...
Quoted text (23 lines)> [email hidden] (S�bastien Tixier) wrote in > <[email hidden]>: > > >Hi ! > > > >This WE i improved my Ring PB from 8,51 to 8,31, it's a shame that > >with the ring you can so easily wins lot of seconds in so short time > >when you only wins few tenth at monza in 1/2 weeks :o( > > > >Seb #186 > > Your getting into the area where getting any more seconds out of the > Ring is going to get a lot harder. And then there's consistency. You > can probably do 5 laps of Monza within a second or two of your best > lap. Try that at the Ring. > > -- > Don Scurlock > Vancouver,B.C. > GPLRank -1.90 > > Come see how you rate, at the GPLRank site > http://newgplrank.schuerkamp.de/
Yesterday I had one of the great "events" of my GPL career. I drove multiple laps of the 'ring all within .3 seconds of each other. It just floored me to all of a sudden have that sort of consistency at a track like the 'ring. Something has obviously "clicked" for me. Speed will come. At the Glen I've driven multiple consecutive laps equal to the thousandth, but I think this 'ring perfomance is an order of magnitude more satisfying.
Don Scurlock 19 Jun 2000 21:01 UTC#261831
[email hidden] (Kevin Gavitt) wrote in <gKr35.16561$[email hidden]>:
Quoted text (9 lines)>Yesterday I had one of the great "events" of my GPL career. I drove >multiple laps of the 'ring all within .3 seconds of each other. It >just floored me to all of a sudden have that sort of consistency at >a track like the 'ring. Something has obviously "clicked" for me. >Speed will come. > >At the Glen I've driven multiple consecutive laps equal to the >thousandth, but I think this 'ring perfomance is an order of >magnitude more satisfying.
Excellent Kevin. On that subject, I was checking our Ring league race in SpyGirl, and Steve Brunt did four laps of the five lap race at 8:58, and three of them were 8:58.5xx, and two were identical to the thousandth of a second, at 8:58.568! Not super fast but extremely consistent. -- Don Scurlock Vancouver,B.C. GPLRank -1.90 Come see how you rate, at the GPLRank site http://newgplrank.schuerkamp.de/
> Rah...... my target !!! FIRE !! FIRE !!! :o)) heh :) I did a little comparison of our times. the times are sooo close on every track: +1,07; +0,17; +0,40; -0,18; +1,23; -0,21; +1,08; -1,23; -3,06; +0,12; +1,49. Your best lap at Spa is over 3 seconds faster than mine so I think i can snatch a little time there (or is this that the track you have done 30 000 laps on? :)). At Zandvoort I have 1� sec faster time so maybe you have couple of seconds hiding there. > can feel it :o)))) ( somme pressure on you could help me :o)) ) Heh, ok. I hereby challenge you to break 8:25 at ring!! (gonna do it myself if I got what it takes, at least im gonna beat that 0,21 sec gap!) Cheers Leo Merikallio (Leech) GPLRank handicap +6.22
> Well, i'm hoping for a 8:10 or 8:20, because i'm still don't attack hard ,i > don't really know the track by hearth yet, i mean, i know if the next turnis > left or right and easy,medium or hard, but to attack as i attack at monzaor the > glen for example i need to know every inch of track, and it's a long one:o) > so... next WE will be a ring one :o) > Seb > Handicap +7.12 I broke my pb at ring and have the same time there (8:31). My handicap is +6.22 so im in a next position in front of you :) Whats your nickname on that horrible buddy-list combobox (They really should make the search so that CTRL + F is accessible or that the list is sorted by real name). I just have to see if there is noticeable differences beetween you and me on any track (so that if there is i know where to snatch those tenths). Cheers, Leo Merikallio
Phil Abel 20 Jun 2000#261707
8:20 is a good target...i always aim for 8:17-8:20 range. My luckiest lap is 8:11, but whenever i try to run sub 8:15 i crash... So sub 8:20's are definitely achievable, but i stand in awe at those sub 8min guys...Truly incredible driving. Cheers Phil S�bastien Tixier <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]... > Well, i'm hoping for a 8:10 or 8:20, because i'm still don't attack hard ,i > don't really know the track by hearth yet, i mean, i know if the next turnis > left or right and easy,medium or hard, but to attack as i attack at monzaor the > glen for example i need to know every inch of track, and it's a long one:o) > so... next WE will be a ring one :o)<snip>
Sebastien Tixier 20 Jun 2000 06:13 UTC#261688
Well, i'm hoping for a 8:10 or 8:20, because i'm still don't attack hard , i don't really know the track by hearth yet, i mean, i know if the next turn is left or right and easy,medium or hard, but to attack as i attack at monza or the glen for example i need to know every inch of track, and it's a long one :o) so... next WE will be a ring one :o) Seb Handicap +7.12 Jason Monds wrote:
Quoted text (10 lines)> You've just jumped another plateau. Now try getting under 8 seconds or 8:10 > for that matter ;-) It will not be that easy. I stayed at 8:30 myself. > > Jason. > > -- > Jason Monds > http://www.proracingclub.com - Pro Racing Club! (N3, GPL) > http://members.home.net/stuff.mondsj/csp - Car Sim Project > (Please remove 'no extra spork' when replying)
Sebastien Tixier 20 Jun 2000 14:56 UTC#261675
> I broke my pb at ring and have the same time there (8:31). My handicap is > +6.22 so im in a next position in front of you :) Rah...... my target !!! FIRE !! FIRE !!! :o)) > Whats your nickname on that horrible buddy-list combobox (They really should > make the search so that CTRL + F is accessible or that the list is sorted by > real name). I just have to see if there is noticeable differences beetween > you and me on any track (so that if there is i know where to snatch those > tenths). MagicFr, Magic for "it's a kind of magic" from the Queens, and Fr because i'm french :o) > Cheers, > Leo Merikallio So, your in my buddy list two now :o) well, tonight i'm gonna beat my PB at the ring, i can feel it :o)))) ( somme pressure on you could help me :o)) ) -- Sebastien Tixier Susuki 650 SVS (MagicFr) GPLRank handicap +7.12 Game Developper http://www.eden-studios.fr
Don Scurlock 20 Jun 2000 17:05 UTC#261552
[email hidden] (Leo Merikallio) wrote in <8invai$1b2s$[email hidden]>:
Quoted text (10 lines)>I broke my pb at ring and have the same time there (8:31). My handicap is >+6.22 so im in a next position in front of you :) >Whats your nickname on that horrible buddy-list combobox (They really should >make the search so that CTRL + F is accessible or that the list is sorted by >real name). I just have to see if there is noticeable differences beetween >you and me on any track (so that if there is i know where to snatch those >tenths). > >Cheers, >Leo Merikallio
I agree it's difficult to find people sometimes. If you know any part of their real name or there nickname, use "Search Driver Database" to find the rest. It would help if people would just use their full names instead of nicknames. On the other hand, some people are only known around here and in online racing by their nicknames. We do it to ourselves. -- Don Scurlock Vancouver,B.C. GPLRank -1.90 Come see how you rate, at the GPLRank site http://newgplrank.schuerkamp.de/
Peter Ives 21 Jun 2000#261151
In article <[email hidden]>, S�bastien Tixier <[email hidden]> writes >Well, i'm hoping for a 8:10 or 8:20, because i'm still don't attack hard , i >don't really know the track by hearth yet, i mean, i know if the next turn is >left or right and easy,medium or hard, but to attack as i attack at monza or the >glen for example i need to know every inch of track, and it's a long one :o) >so... next WE will be a ring one :o) > It really appears as though you have a deep fire burning within to get that Ring time down and, if it continues, I'm sure you will know the track by hearth pretty soon. :) -- Peter Ives - (AKA Ivington) No person's opinions can be said to be more correct than another's, because each is the sole judge of his or her own experience.
EldredP 21 Jun 2000#261269
In article <[email hidden]>, =?iso-8859-1?Q?S=E9bastien?= Tixier <[email hidden]> writes:
Quoted text (13 lines)>Hi !!! > >Look at my new signature! :o)) !!!! :o))) > >-- >Sebastien Tixier >Susuki 650 SVS >(MagicFr) GPLRank handicap -0.77 >Game Developper >http://www.eden-studios.fr >
Negative?!? WooHOO!!!! I am SO jealous...<g> If I gain one second per day(no easy task) it would still take me over THREE MONTHS to be in the negatives... :( Eldred -- Tiger Stadium R.I.P. 1912-1999 Homepage - http://www.umich.edu/~epickett GPL hcp. +85.99 Never argue with an idiot. He brings you down to his level, then beats you with experience... Remove SPAM-OFF to reply.
JS 21 Jun 2000#261439
I'm at 8:25 including one spin. If I can get rid of that habbit.... Jens On Mon, 19 Jun 2000 10:23:31 -0600, Jason Monds <[email hidden]> wrote: >You've just jumped another plateau. Now try getting under 8 seconds or 8:10 >for that matter ;-) It will not be that easy. I stayed at 8:30 myself. > >Jason. --------------------------------------------- [email hidden] Remove "NOSPAM" before using my email-address JensSchumi homepage at http://members.xoom.com/JensSchu/ Racing simulation, esp. GPL Logitech Wingman FF optimization Classic cars, esp. Morris Minor Radio controlled airplanes
Sebastien Tixier 21 Jun 2000 05:50 UTC#261469
Hi !!! Look at my new signature! :o)) !!!! :o))) 8:25 at the ring including one spin. 1:58.86 at Rouen :o)) YES !!!! Leo Merikallio wrote: > > Rah...... my target !!! FIRE !! FIRE !!! :o)) > > heh :) I did a little comparison of our times. the times are sooo close on > every track: +1,07; +0,17; +0,40; -0,18; +1,23; -0,21; +1,08; -1,23; -3,06; > +0,12; +1,49. No more !!! :o))) > Your best lap at Spa is over 3 seconds faster than mine so I think i can > snatch a little time there (or is this that the track you have done 30 000 > laps on? :)). At Zandvoort I have 1� sec faster time so maybe you have > couple of seconds hiding there. Nop, i can improve Spa too, Monza and Glen are tracks that is very difficult to me to improved, i can't see where to wins some tenth :o((( Regards, -- Sebastien Tixier Susuki 650 SVS (MagicFr) GPLRank handicap -0.77 Game Developper http://www.eden-studios.fr
Uwe Schuerkamp 21 Jun 2000 14:24 UTC#261336
>I broke my pb at ring and have the same time there (8:31). My handicap is >+6.22 so im in a next position in front of you :) >Whats your nickname on that horrible buddy-list combobox (They really should >make the search so that CTRL + F is accessible or that the list is sorted by >real name). I just have to see if there is noticeable differences beetween You can use the "driver search" and add folks to your buddy list from the search results returned with a single click of a button. Cheers, uwe -- Uwe Schuerkamp http://www.schuerkamp.de/ uwe.schuerkamp at telemedia.de for direct mail (from: is spambox) PGP Fingerprint: 2E 13 20 22 9A 3F 63 7F 67 6F E9 B1 A8 36 A4 61
Leo Merikallio 21 Jun 2000 18:36 UTC#261406
Hi! > Look at my new signature! :o)) !!!! :o))) > 8:25 at the ring including one spin. > 1:58.86 at Rouen :o)) Gongrats! I got myself also below 8:25 time at the ring. 8:26 first with a minor spin and 8:20 without any spins. Now Im hanging somewhere -5 seconds in handicap :) > Nop, i can improve Spa too, Monza and Glen are tracks that is verydifficult to Yeah, and even if you could pull out the perfect lap it would only be some tenths, those times are so good. It looks like the only way to seriously cut the time is to wrestle in the ring :) BTW, those calculations i posted earlier had some tiny mistakes (i calculated them myself cause i didnt know there was an option in GPLrank which would have done it for me automatically) Cheers, Leo Merikallio
Leo Merikallio 21 Jun 2000 18:39 UTC#261409
> I agree it's difficult to find people sometimes. If you know any part oftheir > real name or there nickname, use "Search Driver Database" to find therest. It > would help if people would just use their full names instead of nicknames.On > the other hand, some people are only known around here and in onlineracing by > their nicknames. We do it to ourselves. Youre right. It seems I was too busy judging the GPLrank system before I tried all options :) Cheers, Leo Merikallio
Sebastien Tixier 26 Jun 2000 06:29 UTC#260192
Peter Ives wrote: > It really appears as though you have a deep fire burning within to get > that Ring time down and, if it continues, I'm sure you will know the > track by hearth pretty soon. :) Done ! I know it by hearth :o) i've made a 8:18.75 with a big mistake in the turn before the last turn in 3rd before the big straight, i've pass it too fast , oversteer and hit the fences on left. I think i'v lost 5 or 6 secondes here :o) but, i was to tired of this tracks so i've improved all my other PB :o)))) -- Sebastien Tixier Susuki 650 SVS - No Driving Licence yet (MagicFr) GPLRank handicap -17.05 Game Developper http://www.eden-studios.fr

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