Gp3 accuracy

i was wondering will we be judging the gp3 tracks ont he accuracy of todays race or the ones of 2 years ago. It is quite hard to get footage easily as they arnt races every 2 weeks? -- Kieran

> i was wondering will we be judging the gp3 tracks ont he accuracy oftodays > race or the ones of 2 years ago. It is quite hard to get footage easily as > they arnt races every 2 weeks? The GP3 tracks are modelled in their '98 configuration AFAIK. All in all it seems to be quite hard to judge track accuracy even if there is footage available - because watching the TV in-car footage led some poor souls to believe that the tracks in f1-2000 were perfectly accurate. Geoff Crammond himself admitted once that his goal isn't accuracy down to the very last inch - he rather tries to capture the feel of a racing circuit, the challenges the drivers face in each corner and realistic laptimes. This is where f1-2000 failed big-time. cheers, Alex

"Alexander Marx" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:8io7q1$556e3$[email hidden]... > > i was wondering will we be judging the gp3 tracks ont he accuracy of > todays > > race or the ones of 2 years ago. It is quite hard to get footage easilyas > > they arnt races every 2 weeks? The GP3 tracks are modelled in their '98 configuration AFAIK. All in all it seems to be quite hard to judge track accuracy even if there is footage available - because watching the TV in-car footage led some poor souls to believe that the tracks in f1-2000 were not accurate. David G Fisher

>BTW, some people complained about the Silverstone track. Iain drove it, and >thinks it's accurate. But you don't trust him and his fuzzy memory, right? :-) -- Cheers! Graeme Nash

In article <R9X35.12863$A%[email hidden]>, "David G Fisher" <[email hidden]> writes:

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>"EldredP" <[email hidden]> wrote in message >news:[email hidden]... >> In article <IdT35.12676$A%[email hidden]>, "David G >Fisher" >> <[email hidden]> writes: >> >> > The GP3 tracks are modelled in their '98 configuration AFAIK. All in all >it >> >seems to be quite hard to judge track accuracy even if there is footage >> >available - because watching the TV in-car footage led some poor souls to >> >believe that the tracks in f1-2000 were not accurate. >> > >> >David G Fisher >> > >C'mon, Eldred...all you do is banter back and forth. I haven't seen >anyone's >opinions swayed YET. In other words, you're wasting your time. You >both(each?) have good opinions on some things. This has reached the point >of >diminishing returns... > >:-) > >I'm very immature. > >David G Fisher

Yes, you are... <g> Eldred -- Tiger Stadium R.I.P. 1912-1999 Homepage - http://www.umich.edu/~epickett GPL hcp. +85.99 Never argue with an idiot. He brings you down to his level, then beats you with experience... Remove SPAM-OFF to reply.

>because watching the TV in-car footage led some poor souls to >believe that the tracks in f1-2000 were not accurate. Actually from what I've read, the people who said the tracks were accurate were the ones who had seen them only on TV, while those who complained that they were inaccurate had actually driven them IRL. -- Cheers! Graeme Nash

In article <IdT35.12676$A%[email hidden]>, "David G Fisher" <[email hidden]> writes: > The GP3 tracks are modelled in their '98 configuration AFAIK. All in all it >seems to be quite hard to judge track accuracy even if there is footage >available - because watching the TV in-car footage led some poor souls to >believe that the tracks in f1-2000 were not accurate. > >David G Fisher C'mon, guys...all you do is banter back and forth. I haven't seen anyone's opinions swayed YET. In other words, you're wasting your time. You both(each?) have good opinions on some things. This has reached the point of diminishing returns... Eldred -- Tiger Stadium R.I.P. 1912-1999 Homepage - http://www.umich.edu/~epickett GPL hcp. 1:35.98 minutes-GPLRank:378 as of 6/18/00 Never argue with an idiot. He brings you down to his level, then beats you with experience... Remove SPAM-OFF to reply.

oh, David, you're such a wind-up merchant! -- Colin Harris Remove "your knickers" to reply - because watching the TV in-car footage led some poor souls to > believe that the tracks in f1-2000 were not accurate. > > David G Fisher >

"EldredP" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]... > In article <IdT35.12676$A%[email hidden]>, "David GFisher" > <[email hidden]> writes: > > > The GP3 tracks are modelled in their '98 configuration AFAIK. All in allit > >seems to be quite hard to judge track accuracy even if there is footage > >available - because watching the TV in-car footage led some poor souls to > >believe that the tracks in f1-2000 were not accurate. > > > >David G Fisher > C'mon, Eldred...all you do is banter back and forth. I haven't seen anyone's opinions swayed YET. In other words, you're wasting your time. You both(each?) have good opinions on some things. This has reached the point of diminishing returns... :-) I'm very immature. David G Fisher

Seriouslly though, I have contributed almost nothing to the track accuracy threads. Others seem to do very well defending their accuracy. All I know is that I race the tracks in conjuction with the F1 schedule, and I see the same thing on the television as I do on my computer screen. I'm finding myself mimicking (ok, only on a very, very good lap) Schumacher's car control on each section of each track so far this season. David G Fisher "David G Fisher" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:R9X35.12863$A%[email hidden]...

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> > "EldredP" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > news:[email hidden]... > > In article <IdT35.12676$A%[email hidden]>, "David G > Fisher" > > <[email hidden]> writes: > > > > > The GP3 tracks are modelled in their '98 configuration AFAIK. All in

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> > >believe that the tracks in f1-2000 were not accurate. > > > > > >David G Fisher > > > > C'mon, Eldred...all you do is banter back and forth. I haven't seen > anyone's > opinions swayed YET. In other words, you're wasting your time. You > both(each?) have good opinions on some things. This has reached the point > of > diminishing returns... > > :-) > > I'm very immature. > > David G Fisher >

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>Fisher" >> > The GP3 tracks are modelled in their '98 configuration AFAIK. All in all >it >> >seems to be quite hard to judge track accuracy even if there is footage >> >available - because watching the TV in-car footage led some poor souls to >> >believe that the tracks in f1-2000 were not accurate. >> >David G Fisher >C'mon, Eldred...all you do is banter back and forth. I haven't seen >anyone's >opinions swayed YET. In other words, you're wasting your time. You >both(each?) have good opinions on some things. This has reached the point >of >diminishing returns... >:-) >I'm very immature. >David G Fisher

Yes, you are... <g> Eldred -- Tiger Stadium R.I.P. 1912-1999 Homepage - http://www.umich.edu/~epickett GPL hcp. +85.99 Never argue with an idiot. He brings you down to his level, then beats you with experience... Remove SPAM-OFF to reply.

On Wed, 21 Jun 2000 04:05:05 GMT, "David G Fisher" <[email hidden]> wrote:

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> >"EldredP" <[email hidden]> wrote in message >news:[email hidden]... >> In article <IdT35.12676$A%[email hidden]>, "David G >Fisher" >> <[email hidden]> writes: >> >> > The GP3 tracks are modelled in their '98 configuration AFAIK. All in all >it >> >seems to be quite hard to judge track accuracy even if there is footage >> >available - because watching the TV in-car footage led some poor souls to >> >believe that the tracks in f1-2000 were not accurate. >> > >> >David G Fisher >> > >C'mon, Eldred...all you do is banter back and forth. I haven't seen >anyone's >opinions swayed YET. In other words, you're wasting your time. You >both(each?) have good opinions on some things. This has reached the point >of >diminishing returns... > >:-) > >I'm very immature.

And you're an idiot. Andre > >David G Fisher >

EldredP <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]... > In article <IdT35.12676$A%[email hidden]>, "David GFisher" > <[email hidden]> writes: > > > The GP3 tracks are modelled in their '98 configuration AFAIK. All in allit

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> >seems to be quite hard to judge track accuracy even if there is footage > >available - because watching the TV in-car footage led some poor souls to > >believe that the tracks in f1-2000 were not accurate. > > > >David G Fisher > > C'mon, guys...all you do is banter back and forth. I haven't seen

anyone's > opinions swayed YET. In other words, you're wasting your time. You > both(each?) have good opinions on some things. This has reached the pointof > diminishing returns... > > Eldred Yes, Eldred, you must be god or something....your so damned right! Will you come over the RASF1 with me? I've got someone annoying me there too, you might be able to hep me out. > Tiger Stadium R.I.P. 1912-1999 > Homepage - http://www.umich.edu/~epickett > GPL hcp. 1:35.98 minutes-GPLRank:378 as of 6/18/00 > > Never argue with an idiot. He brings you down to his level, then beatsyou > with experience... > Remove SPAM-OFF to reply.

I trust the accuracy of a track created with measurements, still shots, and video, over one created from someone's fuzzy memory. BTW, some people complained about the Silverstone track. Iain drove it, and thinks it's accurate. David G Fisher "Graeme Nash" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]...

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> > >because watching the TV in-car footage led some poor souls to > >believe that the tracks in f1-2000 were not accurate. > > Actually from what I've read, the people who said the tracks were > accurate were the ones who had seen them only on TV, while those who > complained that they were inaccurate had actually driven them IRL. > > -- > Cheers! > Graeme Nash

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>> C'mon, guys...all you do is banter back and forth. I haven't seen >anyone's >> opinions swayed YET. In other words, you're wasting your time. You >> both(each?) have good opinions on some things. This has reached the point >of >> diminishing returns... >> >> Eldred > >Yes, Eldred, you must be god or something....your so damned right! > >Will you come over the RASF1 with me? I've got someone annoying me there >too, you might be able to hep me out.

LOL! It didn't help though. They'll just keep going... :( Eldred -- Tiger Stadium R.I.P. 1912-1999 Homepage - http://www.umich.edu/~epickett GPL hcp. +85.99 Never argue with an idiot. He brings you down to his level, then beats you with experience... Remove SPAM-OFF to reply.