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LWFF, Force RS and Framerate in GPL

3 posts by 3 people · 21 Jun 2000 - 22 Jun 2000 11:46 UTC

Phil Lee 21 Jun 2000#261027
I bought a Force RS and Shifter last Thursday and received it yesterday. I have been using it in GPL and whilst I really like the wheel and shifter combination, I have noticed one significant difference between the Force RS and my old LWFF in GPL. With my LWFF I get a rock solid framerate of 36 at 1024x768 with the detail bias set level with the B of bias, mirrors set to cars and track, and with drivers arms, driver texture, clouds, smoke, dirt, dynamic lighting and specular highlights all switched off. This only dropped at the start of a race to about 27 fps and once the initial melee had been cleared there was no change at all at any track. My system is as follows: P2 400, 128Mb Ram, V3 2000 (not O/Ced), SB Live! 1024. With the Force RS, if I use exactly the same graphics settings, I get a very rapidly changing framerate of between 35 and 37 fps. I know 37 is out of the range of GPL normally but that's what it says. In areas of higher detail such as Woodcote at Silverstone and the back stretch at Zandy, the framerate falls away to 30 - 32 fps. I never had these framerate changes with the LWFF. At the start of a race it can drop down to 18-20 at the back of a 20 car field. These framerate changes really bug me as I have become accustomed to smooth graphics in GPL in the 6 months that I have had it. When I drop the resolution down to 800x600 I still get a jittery framerate but don't get quite the drops that I do at the higher resolution. Both the LWFF and Force RS were connected via USB, though not at the same time. I have no shared IRQ's and no conflicts reported in the Device Manager. I have downloaded the latest drivers for the Force RS (v1.23) and used the clear all settings utility to tidy the drivers as well. BTW, I never installed the drivers from the Force RS CD. Getting to the point of this post, I was wondering if anyone who has experience of a Force RS gets the same sort of jittery framerate in GPL and similar drops in framerate? Does anyone have any suggestions about how I can sort this out and enjoy the same graphical performance in GPL with the Force RS as the LWFF? Cheers Phil -- GPL Rank: +66.44 secs http://www.youpies.co.uk -- GPL Rank: +69.00 secs http://www.youpies.co.uk
Vintook 21 Jun 2000 23:12 UTC#261032
This is because the LWFF had the least impact on CPU usage out of all the FF wheels on the market. This gave better framerates. I think the Microsoft wheel was the CPU hog of the bunch. Vintook "Phil Lee" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:8irg31$clh$[email hidden]... > I bought a Force RS and Shifter last Thursday and received it yesterday.I > have been using it in GPL and whilst I really like the wheel and shifter > combination, I have noticed one significant difference between the ForceRS > and my old LWFF in GPL. > > With my LWFF I get a rock solid framerate of 36 at 1024x768 with thedetail
Quoted text (10 lines)> bias set level with the B of bias, mirrors set to cars and track, and with > drivers arms, driver texture, clouds, smoke, dirt, dynamic lighting and > specular highlights all switched off. This only dropped at the start of a > race to about 27 fps and once the initial melee had been cleared there was > no change at all at any track. > > My system is as follows: P2 400, 128Mb Ram, V3 2000 (not O/Ced), SB Live! > 1024. > > With the Force RS, if I use exactly the same graphics settings, I get a
very > rapidly changing framerate of between 35 and 37 fps. I know 37 is out of > the range of GPL normally but that's what it says. In areas of higher > detail such as Woodcote at Silverstone and the back stretch at Zandy, the > framerate falls away to 30 - 32 fps. I never had these framerate changes > with the LWFF. At the start of a race it can drop down to 18-20 at theback
Quoted text (16 lines)> of a 20 car field. These framerate changes really bug me as I have become > accustomed to smooth graphics in GPL in the 6 months that I have had it. > > When I drop the resolution down to 800x600 I still get a jittery framerate > but don't get quite the drops that I do at the higher resolution. > > Both the LWFF and Force RS were connected via USB, though not at the same > time. I have no shared IRQ's and no conflicts reported in the Device > Manager. > > I have downloaded the latest drivers for the Force RS (v1.23) and used the > clear all settings utility to tidy the drivers as well. BTW, I never > installed the drivers from the Force RS CD. > > Getting to the point of this post, I was wondering if anyone who has > experience of a Force RS gets the same sort of jittery framerate in GPL
and
Quoted text (21 lines)> similar drops in framerate? Does anyone have any suggestions about how I > can sort this out and enjoy the same graphical performance in GPL with the > Force RS as the LWFF? > > Cheers > > Phil > > -- > GPL Rank: +66.44 secs > > http://www.youpies.co.uk > > > > -- > GPL Rank: +69.00 secs > > http://www.youpies.co.uk > >
Zipp 22 Jun 2000 11:46 UTC#261218
Phil, I have the same exact setup except for the video card (I have a V2 Banshee). I run GPL at 1024x768, detail high and get a solid 34-36 fps. I had framerate problems when I first started playing a few months ago but since I started running Enditall, I haven't had any of these issue. Bruno "Phil Lee" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:8irg31$clh$[email hidden]... > I bought a Force RS and Shifter last Thursday and received it yesterday.I > have been using it in GPL and whilst I really like the wheel and shifter > combination, I have noticed one significant difference between the ForceRS > and my old LWFF in GPL. > > With my LWFF I get a rock solid framerate of 36 at 1024x768 with thedetail
Quoted text (10 lines)> bias set level with the B of bias, mirrors set to cars and track, and with > drivers arms, driver texture, clouds, smoke, dirt, dynamic lighting and > specular highlights all switched off. This only dropped at the start of a > race to about 27 fps and once the initial melee had been cleared there was > no change at all at any track. > > My system is as follows: P2 400, 128Mb Ram, V3 2000 (not O/Ced), SB Live! > 1024. > > With the Force RS, if I use exactly the same graphics settings, I get a
very > rapidly changing framerate of between 35 and 37 fps. I know 37 is out of > the range of GPL normally but that's what it says. In areas of higher > detail such as Woodcote at Silverstone and the back stretch at Zandy, the > framerate falls away to 30 - 32 fps. I never had these framerate changes > with the LWFF. At the start of a race it can drop down to 18-20 at theback
Quoted text (16 lines)> of a 20 car field. These framerate changes really bug me as I have become > accustomed to smooth graphics in GPL in the 6 months that I have had it. > > When I drop the resolution down to 800x600 I still get a jittery framerate > but don't get quite the drops that I do at the higher resolution. > > Both the LWFF and Force RS were connected via USB, though not at the same > time. I have no shared IRQ's and no conflicts reported in the Device > Manager. > > I have downloaded the latest drivers for the Force RS (v1.23) and used the > clear all settings utility to tidy the drivers as well. BTW, I never > installed the drivers from the Force RS CD. > > Getting to the point of this post, I was wondering if anyone who has > experience of a Force RS gets the same sort of jittery framerate in GPL
and
Quoted text (21 lines)> similar drops in framerate? Does anyone have any suggestions about how I > can sort this out and enjoy the same graphical performance in GPL with the > Force RS as the LWFF? > > Cheers > > Phil > > -- > GPL Rank: +66.44 secs > > http://www.youpies.co.uk > > > > -- > GPL Rank: +69.00 secs > > http://www.youpies.co.uk > >

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