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F1 Movies site with '67 Bandini crash

31 posts by 17 people · 23 Jun 2000 - 27 Jun 2000

F1 film clip site featuring Bandini's fatal crash

J. Todd Wasson posted a link to an F1 film site that included footage of Lorenzo Bandini's fatal 1967 Monaco crash. Several posters criticised highlighting a man's death as tasteless, while Wasson said his point was the site's general footage and the link to the GPL era.

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Don't know if you folks have seen this or not. Excellent site with nothing but F-1 movies, including the 1967 Bandini crash that claimed his life at Monaco (pretty gruesome, lots of fire). Todd Wasson
don hodgdon 23 Jun 2000#260628
"Rod Smelser" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:fzX45.15668$[email hidden]... > ALL I GET IS ...SORRY THIS PAGE IS NOT IN SERVICE?? > "JTW62074" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > news:[email hidden]... > > Don't know if you folks have seen this or not. Excellent site with > nothing > > but F-1 movies, including the 1967 Bandini crash that claimed his lifeat > > Monaco (pretty gruesome, lots of fire). > > > > Todd Wasson > > Try this one: http://members.home.net/f1gallery/movies.html -- don New GPL Programs for the Converted Tracks: http://www.ianparker1.freeserve.co.uk/gpl/index.html
N.. 23 Jun 2000#525938
You forgot to post the url. -- Nos
Nos 23 Jun 2000 23:56 UTC#260613
On 23 Jun 2000 23:39:59 GMT, [email hidden] (JTW62074) thus spoke: > Don't know if you folks have seen this or not. Excellent site with nothing >but F-1 movies, including the 1967 Bandini crash that claimed his life at >Monaco (pretty gruesome, lots of fire). > > Todd Wasson You forgot to post the url. -- Nos
Oops!! Let's try that again. Here's the URL. http://members.home.net/f1gallery/movies.htm Todd Wasson (Doh!) l> Don't know if you folks have seen this or not. Excellent site with >nothing >but F-1 movies, including the 1967 Bandini crash that claimed his life at >Monaco (pretty gruesome, lots of fire). > > Todd Wasson
Ace 24 Jun 2000 00:34 UTC#260707
Oh thats just fantastic. Really good taste... -- -Ace- JTW62074 <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]... > Don't know if you folks have seen this or not. Excellent site with nothing > but F-1 movies, including the 1967 Bandini crash that claimed his life at > Monaco (pretty gruesome, lots of fire). > > Todd Wasson
Rod Smelser 24 Jun 2000 05:21 UTC#260646
ALL I GET IS ...SORRY THIS PAGE IS NOT IN SERVICE?? "JTW62074" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]... > Don't know if you folks have seen this or not. Excellent site withnothing > but F-1 movies, including the 1967 Bandini crash that claimed his life at > Monaco (pretty gruesome, lots of fire). > > Todd Wasson
Gary Stephenson 24 Jun 2000 05:34 UTC#260649
Rod Smelser wrote: > > ALL I GET IS ...SORRY THIS PAGE IS NOT IN SERVICE?? DITTO
Ace 24 Jun 2000#525959
Oh thats just fantastic. Really good taste... -- -Ace-
Sicko JTW62074 wrote in message <[email hidden]>... > Don't know if you folks have seen this or not. Excellent site withnothing >but F-1 movies, including the 1967 Bandini crash that claimed his life at >Monaco (pretty gruesome, lots of fire). > > Todd Wasson
Sicko JTW62074 wrote in message <[email hidden]>... > Don't know if you folks have seen this or not. Excellent site withnothing >but F-1 movies, including the 1967 Bandini crash that claimed his life at >Monaco (pretty gruesome, lots of fire). > > Todd Wasson
Sicko JTW62074 wrote in message <[email hidden]>... > Don't know if you folks have seen this or not. Excellent site withnothing >but F-1 movies, including the 1967 Bandini crash that claimed his life at >Monaco (pretty gruesome, lots of fire). > > Todd Wasson
rrevved 25 Jun 2000#260175
On Sun, 25 Jun 2000 22:14:27 +0100, "Stephen Barnett" <[email hidden]> wrote: >Sicko > Stephan, try not to post the same message thrice. Thanks.
Quoted text (8 lines)>JTW62074 wrote in message <[email hidden]>... >> Don't know if you folks have seen this or not. Excellent site with >nothing >>but F-1 movies, including the 1967 Bandini crash that claimed his life at >>Monaco (pretty gruesome, lots of fire). >> >> Todd Wasson >
Ace 25 Jun 2000 20:11 UTC#260139
I'm sure Bandini's family would view it that way, true... -- -Ace- Target 12 <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]... > >Oh thats just fantastic. Really good taste... > >-- > > It is educational and shows how far safety has come in racing > Racer X
>Yep, once was enough, but Outlook Express got a bit cranky on me, sorry. But >I still find it bloody amazing that people want to watch a mans death >because its 'educational', but never seem to jump to recommending a site >that charts his career or achievements! > >Steve (sigh) I hope this thread doesn't go on forever... Please read the original post again, Steve. There were 2 main points. 1-> Great F-1 site with a lot of great footage. 2-> '67 GPL era Bandini crash I was hoping that even though these two points were made in one sentence, no one would pull one point out at the expense of the other and make it appear that it was the only reason the website was recommended. I recommended the site primarily because it's an excellent F-1 site that shows fantastic replays of the greats at their greatest. That is why I originally bookmarked it, then reviewed it, and later posted the link. The Bandini crash was interesting to me because it showed what can happen in real life in these GPL era cars. I feel it puts some of my video gaming, reality-craving craziness in perspective. The Bandini crash happened and millions of people saw it in 1967, just like they saw Ayrton Senna and many other racers die, and just like I saw the Space Shuttle Challenger explode on television years ago. I still watched the Challenger explosion repeatedly on the news (and cried about it, actually, being a 6th grader at the time) in disbelief. No, I don't "get off" on watching people die, and I doubt many folks who do will bother/know how to access an automotive simulation newsgroup like this one. *Concerning education:* When taking driver's education classes at age 15, we were forced to watch much more gruesome videos than this Bandini crash footage in order to "pound into our brains" the severe consequences of driving intoxicated or recklessly operating a motor vehicle. Close up shots of bodies were shown to us and we all cringed. I hated it, but it was indeed "educational" in that when I felt the need to drive my '79 Firebird like a maniac, the pictures would flash through my mind and I would indeed get a reality check that would slow me down to a more sane speed, as I did not want to feel what those crash victims felt when they hit the guardrail/other car. Strangely enough, the families of these victims actually allowed these videos to be shown in school driver's ed classrooms. I've seen other similar "gruesome" safety videos where I work, that get graphic in order to emphasize the reality of what can happen if you operate machinery without using the proper personal protective equipment such as safety goggles and hard hats. My employer felt a couple of these graphic videos were indeed educational enough to spend money on them for us to view. It was a bet against his workers compensation plan. What does this "educational aspect" have to do with video games? I've seen enough nasty crashes on television/videotape (some resulted in death) to not get too worked up over them. I assumed most other folks in the newsgroup have also seen the same types of things, and for those that hadn't, I warned them by saying "Pretty gruesome, lots of fire". I felt this was descriptive enough for people to decide for themselves whether they wanted to view the footage or not. When I'm playing GPL from now on and imagining myself really driving the real car, the imprint of that firy disaster will make my next daredevil move a little more frightening, a little more real, now that I know what really happens when one of these cars smacks a wall. That's just me. <snip> "But never seem to jump to recommending a site that charts his career or achievements!" <snip> I still think the site has excellent F-1 footage ASIDE from this crash, as I mentioned as point 1 in the original post. I was not, however, searching for the late Mr. Bandini's personal career acheivements. Instead, I was searching for actual F-1 in-car racing footage when I found the site, so did not bother to post any other sites pertaining to him. The site remains an excellent source of in-car F-1 footage, as I mentioned in the original post. Thank you, Todd Wasson
Let's start over, shall we? I figured readers in this group would associate the Bandini crash to GPL and the harsh realities of driving on the edge in a fashion similar to the way I did, but my feeble mind must have failed me again :-) So, with that hopefully out of the way, check out the great F-1 site with lots of OTHER fantastic movies! There's a couple of .mov's simulating the new Indianapolis F-1 addition, and lots of other terrific in-car footage of the world's hottest hot-lappers showing their stuff! Todd Wasson :-) My apologies to the Bandini family, the Petty family, the Senna family, etc..
Yep, once was enough, but Outlook Express got a bit cranky on me, sorry. But I still find it bloody amazing that people want to watch a mans death because its 'educational', but never seem to jump to recommending a site that charts his career or achievements! Steve rrevved wrote in message ... >On Sun, 25 Jun 2000 22:14:27 +0100, "Stephen Barnett"<[email hidden]> wrote:
Quoted text (9 lines)> >>Sicko >> > >Stephan, try not to post the same message thrice. > >Thanks. > >>JTW62074 wrote in message
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Quoted text (8 lines)>>> Don't know if you folks have seen this or not. Excellent site with >>nothing >>>but F-1 movies, including the 1967 Bandini crash that claimed his life at >>>Monaco (pretty gruesome, lots of fire). >>> >>> Todd Wasson >> >
Quoted text (12 lines)>(snip) >There's a couple of .mov's simulating the new >Indianapolis F-1 addition >(unsnip) > >Errrk! F1 at Indianapolis :-( You absolute SICKO, Todd! > >:-) >-- >Regards, >Bruce Kennewell, >Canberra, Australia.
Yes!! Hehehe!! The doctor says I'm getting MUCH better now... With Formula 1 at Indy, I won't be needing as many happy pills... :-) Cheers, Todd Wasson
Ace 26 Jun 2000 20:32 UTC#260035
Well, to be honest, I don't think anyone is having a go at you personally (I wasn't), but I question the webmaster's motivation in posting such a grotesque accident. The difference between Bandini's crash and those 'road safety' films, is that in such films, many the drivers were already drunk, driving recklessly, or whatever; You could say they got their just desserts. Also, it's much more chilling to know that you can still end up looking like mincemeat if you crash your ordinary car at low speed. I doubt most people have a car with anything near the performance of the Ferrari 312, so I can't see how it is relevant to our everyday experiences. If I have a bad crash in GPL, I have, in the past, said "oh...shit, I died", if I know I would have IRL, but then I've hit shift-R, and carried on. All a matter of personal taste I suppose. Let's not make this drag on eh? -- -Ace- > *Concerning education:* > When taking driver's education classes at age 15, we were forced to watch > much more gruesome videos than this Bandini crash footage in order to "pound > into our brains" the severe consequences of driving intoxicated or recklessly > operating a motor vehicle. Close up shots of bodies were shown to us and we > all cringed. I hated it, but it was indeed "educational" in that when I felt > the need to drive my '79 Firebird like a maniac, the pictures would flash > through my mind and I would indeed get a reality check that would slow me down > to a more sane speed, as I did not want to feel what those crash victims felt > when they hit the guardrail/other car. Strangely enough, the families of these > victims actually allowed these videos to be shown in school driver's ed > classrooms. > > I've seen other similar "gruesome" safety videos where I work, that get > graphic in order to emphasize the reality of what can happen if you operate > machinery without using the proper personal protective equipment such as safety > goggles and hard hats. My employer felt a couple of these graphic videos were > indeed educational enough to spend money on them for us to view. It was a bet > against his workers compensation plan. > > What does this "educational aspect" have to do with video games? > > I've seen enough nasty crashes on television/videotape (some resulted in > death) to not get too worked up over them. I assumed most other folks in the > newsgroup have also seen the same types of things, and for those that hadn't, I > warned them by saying "Pretty gruesome, lots of fire". I felt this was > descriptive enough for people to decide for themselves whether they wanted to > view the footage or not. > When I'm playing GPL from now on and imagining myself really driving the real > car, the imprint of that firy disaster will make my next daredevil move a > little more frightening, a little more real, now that I know what really > happens when one of these cars smacks a wall. > > That's just me. <snip> > Thank you, > Todd Wasson > > >
Bruce Kennewell 26 Jun 2000 22:50 UTC#260197
(snip) There's a couple of .mov's simulating the new Indianapolis F-1 addition (unsnip) Errrk! F1 at Indianapolis :-( You absolute SICKO, Todd! :-) -- Regards, Bruce Kennewell, Canberra, Australia. --------------------------- JTW62074 <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]... > Let's start over, shall we? I figured readers in this group would associate > the Bandini crash to GPL and the harsh realities of driving on the edge in a > fashion similar to the way I did, but my feeble mind must have failed me again > :-) > > So, with that hopefully out of the way, check out the great F-1 site with lots > of OTHER fantastic movies! There's a couple of .mov's simulating the new > Indianapolis F-1 addition, and lots of other terrific in-car footage of the > world's hottest hot-lappers showing their stuff! > > Todd Wasson :-) > My apologies to the Bandini family, the Petty family, the Senna family, etc.. > >
Agreed. Todd Wasson :-)
Quoted text (15 lines)>Well, to be honest, I don't think anyone is having a go at you personally (I >wasn't), but I question the webmaster's motivation in posting such a >grotesque accident. The difference between Bandini's crash and those 'road >safety' films, is that in such films, many the drivers were already drunk, >driving recklessly, or whatever; You could say they got their just desserts. > Also, it's much more chilling to know that you can still end up looking >like mincemeat if you crash your ordinary car at low speed. I doubt most >people have a car with anything near the performance of the Ferrari 312, so >I can't see how it is relevant to our everyday experiences. If I have a bad >crash in GPL, I have, in the past, said "oh...shit, I died", if I know I >would have IRL, but then I've hit shift-R, and carried on. All a matter of >personal taste I suppose. Let's not make this drag on eh? >-- >-Ace- >

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