Don't know if you folks have seen this or not. Excellent site with nothing
but F-1 movies, including the 1967 Bandini crash that claimed his life at
Monaco (pretty gruesome, lots of fire).
Todd Wasson
F1 film clip site featuring Bandini's fatal crash
J. Todd Wasson posted a link to an F1 film site that included footage of Lorenzo Bandini's fatal 1967 Monaco crash. Several posters criticised highlighting a man's death as tasteless, while Wasson said his point was the site's general footage and the link to the GPL era.
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What's the URL?
"Rod Smelser" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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> ALL I GET IS ...SORRY THIS PAGE IS NOT IN SERVICE??
> "JTW62074" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
> news:[email hidden]...
> > Don't know if you folks have seen this or not. Excellent site with
> nothing
> > but F-1 movies, including the 1967 Bandini crash that claimed his lifeat
> > Monaco (pretty gruesome, lots of fire).
> >
> > Todd Wasson
>
>
Try this one:
http://members.home.net/f1gallery/movies.html
--
don
New GPL Programs for the Converted Tracks:
http://www.ianparker1.freeserve.co.uk/gpl/index.html
You forgot to post the url.
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Nos
What's the URL?
On 23 Jun 2000 23:39:59 GMT, [email hidden] (JTW62074) thus spoke:
> Don't know if you folks have seen this or not. Excellent site with nothing
>but F-1 movies, including the 1967 Bandini crash that claimed his life at
>Monaco (pretty gruesome, lots of fire).
>
> Todd Wasson
You forgot to post the url.
--
Nos
>Oh thats just fantastic. Really good taste...
>--
It is educational and shows how far safety has come in racing
Racer X
Veteran Sim Racer
#4 Corvette C5-R in the GTIC
#24 Monte Carlo in the DORL
Victory Lane-
http://www.geocities.com/MotorCity/Speedway/1423/
Oops!! Let's try that again. Here's the URL.
http://members.home.net/f1gallery/movies.htm
Todd Wasson (Doh!)
l> Don't know if you folks have seen this or not. Excellent site with
>nothing
>but F-1 movies, including the 1967 Bandini crash that claimed his life at
>Monaco (pretty gruesome, lots of fire).
>
> Todd Wasson
Bandini could have been saved.
(dumbass' saftey crews IMO)
Makes me sick.
Oh thats just fantastic. Really good taste...
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-Ace-
JTW62074 <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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> Don't know if you folks have seen this or not. Excellent site with
nothing
> but F-1 movies, including the 1967 Bandini crash that claimed his life at
> Monaco (pretty gruesome, lots of fire).
>
> Todd Wasson
ALL I GET IS ...SORRY THIS PAGE IS NOT IN SERVICE??
"JTW62074" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
news:[email hidden]...
> Don't know if you folks have seen this or not. Excellent site withnothing
> but F-1 movies, including the 1967 Bandini crash that claimed his life at
> Monaco (pretty gruesome, lots of fire).
>
> Todd Wasson
Rod Smelser wrote:
>
> ALL I GET IS ...SORRY THIS PAGE IS NOT IN SERVICE??
DITTO
JTW62074 <[email hidden]> schreef in berichtnieuws
[email hidden]...
> Don't know if you folks have seen this or not. Excellent site withnothing
> but F-1 movies, including the 1967 Bandini crash that claimed his life at
> Monaco (pretty gruesome, lots of fire).
>
> Todd Wasson
Some other F1 movie-sites:
http://f1movies.cjb.net/
http://www.f-1.ru/video/index_e.html
http://members.home.net/f1gallery/movies.html
Enjoy!
Oh thats just fantastic. Really good taste...
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-Ace-
ALL I GET IS ...SORRY THIS PAGE IS NOT IN SERVICE??
Sicko
JTW62074 wrote in message <[email hidden]>...
> Don't know if you folks have seen this or not. Excellent site withnothing
>but F-1 movies, including the 1967 Bandini crash that claimed his life at
>Monaco (pretty gruesome, lots of fire).
>
> Todd Wasson
Sicko
JTW62074 wrote in message <[email hidden]>...
> Don't know if you folks have seen this or not. Excellent site withnothing
>but F-1 movies, including the 1967 Bandini crash that claimed his life at
>Monaco (pretty gruesome, lots of fire).
>
> Todd Wasson
Sicko
JTW62074 wrote in message <[email hidden]>...
> Don't know if you folks have seen this or not. Excellent site withnothing
>but F-1 movies, including the 1967 Bandini crash that claimed his life at
>Monaco (pretty gruesome, lots of fire).
>
> Todd Wasson
On Sun, 25 Jun 2000 22:14:27 +0100, "Stephen Barnett" <[email hidden]> wrote:
>Sicko
>
Stephan, try not to post the same message thrice.
Thanks.
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>JTW62074 wrote in message <[email hidden]>... >> Don't know if you folks have seen this or not. Excellent site with >nothing >>but F-1 movies, including the 1967 Bandini crash that claimed his life at >>Monaco (pretty gruesome, lots of fire). >> >> Todd Wasson >I'm sure Bandini's family would view it that way, true...
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-Ace-
Target 12 <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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> >Oh thats just fantastic. Really good taste...
> >--
>
> It is educational and shows how far safety has come in racing
> Racer X
Sicko?
Todd Wasson (Sighs, shakes head)
>Yep, once was enough, but Outlook Express got a bit cranky on me, sorry. But
>I still find it bloody amazing that people want to watch a mans death
>because its 'educational', but never seem to jump to recommending a site
>that charts his career or achievements!
>
>Steve
(sigh) I hope this thread doesn't go on forever... Please read the original
post again, Steve. There were 2 main points.
1-> Great F-1 site with a lot of great footage.
2-> '67 GPL era Bandini crash
I was hoping that even though these two points were made in one sentence, no
one would pull one point out at the expense of the other and make it appear
that it was the only reason the website was recommended.
I recommended the site primarily because it's an excellent F-1 site that
shows fantastic replays of the greats at their greatest. That is why I
originally bookmarked it, then reviewed it, and later posted the link.
The Bandini crash was interesting to me because it showed what can happen in
real life in these GPL era cars. I feel it puts some of my video gaming,
reality-craving craziness in perspective. The Bandini crash happened and
millions of people saw it in 1967, just like they saw Ayrton Senna and many
other racers die, and just like I saw the Space Shuttle Challenger explode on
television years ago. I still watched the Challenger explosion repeatedly on
the news (and cried about it, actually, being a 6th grader at the time) in
disbelief. No, I don't "get off" on watching people die, and I doubt many
folks who do will bother/know how to access an automotive simulation newsgroup
like this one.
*Concerning education:*
When taking driver's education classes at age 15, we were forced to watch
much more gruesome videos than this Bandini crash footage in order to "pound
into our brains" the severe consequences of driving intoxicated or recklessly
operating a motor vehicle. Close up shots of bodies were shown to us and we
all cringed. I hated it, but it was indeed "educational" in that when I felt
the need to drive my '79 Firebird like a maniac, the pictures would flash
through my mind and I would indeed get a reality check that would slow me down
to a more sane speed, as I did not want to feel what those crash victims felt
when they hit the guardrail/other car. Strangely enough, the families of these
victims actually allowed these videos to be shown in school driver's ed
classrooms.
I've seen other similar "gruesome" safety videos where I work, that get
graphic in order to emphasize the reality of what can happen if you operate
machinery without using the proper personal protective equipment such as safety
goggles and hard hats. My employer felt a couple of these graphic videos were
indeed educational enough to spend money on them for us to view. It was a bet
against his workers compensation plan.
What does this "educational aspect" have to do with video games?
I've seen enough nasty crashes on television/videotape (some resulted in
death) to not get too worked up over them. I assumed most other folks in the
newsgroup have also seen the same types of things, and for those that hadn't, I
warned them by saying "Pretty gruesome, lots of fire". I felt this was
descriptive enough for people to decide for themselves whether they wanted to
view the footage or not.
When I'm playing GPL from now on and imagining myself really driving the real
car, the imprint of that firy disaster will make my next daredevil move a
little more frightening, a little more real, now that I know what really
happens when one of these cars smacks a wall.
That's just me.
<snip>
"But never seem to jump to recommending a site that charts his career or
achievements!"
<snip>
I still think the site has excellent F-1 footage ASIDE from this crash, as I
mentioned as point 1 in the original post. I was not, however, searching for
the late Mr. Bandini's personal career acheivements. Instead, I was searching
for actual F-1 in-car racing footage when I found the site, so did not bother
to post any other sites pertaining to him.
The site remains an excellent source of in-car F-1 footage, as I mentioned in
the original post.
Thank you,
Todd Wasson
Let's start over, shall we? I figured readers in this group would associate
the Bandini crash to GPL and the harsh realities of driving on the edge in a
fashion similar to the way I did, but my feeble mind must have failed me again
:-)
So, with that hopefully out of the way, check out the great F-1 site with lots
of OTHER fantastic movies! There's a couple of .mov's simulating the new
Indianapolis F-1 addition, and lots of other terrific in-car footage of the
world's hottest hot-lappers showing their stuff!
Todd Wasson :-)
My apologies to the Bandini family, the Petty family, the Senna family, etc..
Yep, once was enough, but Outlook Express got a bit cranky on me, sorry. But
I still find it bloody amazing that people want to watch a mans death
because its 'educational', but never seem to jump to recommending a site
that charts his career or achievements!
Steve
rrevved wrote in message ...
>On Sun, 25 Jun 2000 22:14:27 +0100, "Stephen Barnett"<[email hidden]> wrote:
<[email hidden]>...
Quoted text (9 lines)
> >>Sicko >> > >Stephan, try not to post the same message thrice. > >Thanks. > >>JTW62074 wrote in messageQuoted text (8 lines)
>>> Don't know if you folks have seen this or not. Excellent site with >>nothing >>>but F-1 movies, including the 1967 Bandini crash that claimed his life at >>>Monaco (pretty gruesome, lots of fire). >>> >>> Todd Wasson >> >Quoted text (12 lines)
>(snip) >There's a couple of .mov's simulating the new >Indianapolis F-1 addition >(unsnip) > >Errrk! F1 at Indianapolis :-( You absolute SICKO, Todd! > >:-) >-- >Regards, >Bruce Kennewell, >Canberra, Australia.Just put an l at the end
http://members.home.net/f1gallery/movies.html
Kev
Gary Stephenson wrote:
>
> Rod Smelser wrote:
> >
> > ALL I GET IS ...SORRY THIS PAGE IS NOT IN SERVICE??
>
> DITTO
Sicko?
Todd Wasson (Sighs, shakes head)
Well, to be honest, I don't think anyone is having a go at you personally (I
wasn't), but I question the webmaster's motivation in posting such a
grotesque accident. The difference between Bandini's crash and those 'road
safety' films, is that in such films, many the drivers were already drunk,
driving recklessly, or whatever; You could say they got their just desserts.
Also, it's much more chilling to know that you can still end up looking
like mincemeat if you crash your ordinary car at low speed. I doubt most
people have a car with anything near the performance of the Ferrari 312, so
I can't see how it is relevant to our everyday experiences. If I have a bad
crash in GPL, I have, in the past, said "oh...shit, I died", if I know I
would have IRL, but then I've hit shift-R, and carried on. All a matter of
personal taste I suppose. Let's not make this drag on eh?
--
-Ace-
> *Concerning education:*
> When taking driver's education classes at age 15, we were forced to
watch
> much more gruesome videos than this Bandini crash footage in order to
"pound
> into our brains" the severe consequences of driving intoxicated or
recklessly
> operating a motor vehicle. Close up shots of bodies were shown to us and
we
> all cringed. I hated it, but it was indeed "educational" in that when I
felt
> the need to drive my '79 Firebird like a maniac, the pictures would flash
> through my mind and I would indeed get a reality check that would slow me
down
> to a more sane speed, as I did not want to feel what those crash victims
felt
> when they hit the guardrail/other car. Strangely enough, the families of
these
> victims actually allowed these videos to be shown in school driver's ed
> classrooms.
>
> I've seen other similar "gruesome" safety videos where I work, that get
> graphic in order to emphasize the reality of what can happen if you
operate
> machinery without using the proper personal protective equipment such as
safety
> goggles and hard hats. My employer felt a couple of these graphic videos
were
> indeed educational enough to spend money on them for us to view. It was a
bet
> against his workers compensation plan.
>
> What does this "educational aspect" have to do with video games?
>
> I've seen enough nasty crashes on television/videotape (some resulted in
> death) to not get too worked up over them. I assumed most other folks in
the
> newsgroup have also seen the same types of things, and for those that
hadn't, I
> warned them by saying "Pretty gruesome, lots of fire". I felt this was
> descriptive enough for people to decide for themselves whether they wanted
to
> view the footage or not.
> When I'm playing GPL from now on and imagining myself really driving the
real
> car, the imprint of that firy disaster will make my next daredevil move a
> little more frightening, a little more real, now that I know what really
> happens when one of these cars smacks a wall.
>
> That's just me.
<snip>
> Thank you,
> Todd Wasson
>
>
>
(snip)
There's a couple of .mov's simulating the new
Indianapolis F-1 addition
(unsnip)
Errrk! F1 at Indianapolis :-( You absolute SICKO, Todd!
:-)
--
Regards,
Bruce Kennewell,
Canberra, Australia.
---------------------------
JTW62074 <[email hidden]> wrote in message
news:[email hidden]...
> Let's start over, shall we? I figured readers in this group would
associate
> the Bandini crash to GPL and the harsh realities of driving on the edge in
a
> fashion similar to the way I did, but my feeble mind must have failed me
again
> :-)
>
> So, with that hopefully out of the way, check out the great F-1 site with
lots
> of OTHER fantastic movies! There's a couple of .mov's simulating the new
> Indianapolis F-1 addition, and lots of other terrific in-car footage of
the
> world's hottest hot-lappers showing their stuff!
>
> Todd Wasson :-)
> My apologies to the Bandini family, the Petty family, the Senna family,
etc..
>
>
Agreed.
Todd Wasson :-)
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>Well, to be honest, I don't think anyone is having a go at you personally (I >wasn't), but I question the webmaster's motivation in posting such a >grotesque accident. The difference between Bandini's crash and those 'road >safety' films, is that in such films, many the drivers were already drunk, >driving recklessly, or whatever; You could say they got their just desserts. > Also, it's much more chilling to know that you can still end up looking >like mincemeat if you crash your ordinary car at low speed. I doubt most >people have a car with anything near the performance of the Ferrari 312, so >I can't see how it is relevant to our everyday experiences. If I have a bad >crash in GPL, I have, in the past, said "oh...shit, I died", if I know I >would have IRL, but then I've hit shift-R, and carried on. All a matter of >personal taste I suppose. Let's not make this drag on eh? >-- >-Ace- >Agreed.
Todd Wasson :-)


































