just got msff usb wheel

I just bought this wheel it was the only one in town I could find.Kind of high.I didnt want to spend 150 bucks on a wheel.My kid broke my nascar pro wheel.Any body have any comments on this wheel. Sent via Deja.com http://www.deja.com/ Before you buy.

Why ask for comments on something you have in your possession? It doesn't matter what anyone else thinks now, you can judge for yourself. A I missing something here? -Nick [email hidden] wrote:

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> I just bought this wheel it was the only one in town I could find.Kind > of high.I didnt want to spend 150 bucks on a wheel.My kid broke my > nascar pro wheel.Any body have any comments on this wheel. > Sent via Deja.com http://www.deja.com/ > Before you buy.

Maybe- just maybe - he bought it at a store which accepts hardware returns. And maybe - I know it sounds insane, but maybe - he wants to know if any problems occur after using it for, say, 100 hours, and wants to know if someone has had these problems. I know it sounds crazy. And yes, you are missing something here. Andrew [email hidden] wrote:

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> Why ask for comments on something you have in > your possession? > > It doesn't matter what anyone else thinks now, > you can judge for yourself. > > A I missing something here? > > -Nick > > [email hidden] wrote: > > I just bought this wheel it was the only one in town I could find.Kind > > of high.I didnt want to spend 150 bucks on a wheel.My kid broke my > > nascar pro wheel.Any body have any comments on this wheel. > > > Sent via Deja.com http://www.deja.com/ > > Before you buy.

Apart from a bit of sympathy you're also missing an 'm'. Tony Whitley <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:8j3t3d$2lmt$[email hidden]...

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> Why ask for comments on something you have in > your possession? > > It doesn't matter what anyone else thinks now, > you can judge for yourself. > > A I missing something here? > > -Nick

"Turner" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]... > Maybe- just maybe - he bought it at a store which accepts hardwarereturns.

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> > And maybe - I know it sounds insane, but maybe - he wants to know if any > problems occur after using it for, say, 100 hours, and wants to know if > someone has had these problems. > > I know it sounds crazy. > > And yes, you are missing something here. > > Andrew

What's more, he MIGHT want to know if there are tricks to make his wheel run optimally. Silly boy. Not EVERYONE already knows about squashballs, and have to ask.

Hi Robin, I just received my MSFF several days ago and I'm pretty disappointed with it. Hooking this wheel up to my system drops framerates in Re-Volt from 65-70 FPS to 19-25. Framerates in NFS/PU also *seem* adversely affected. It seems like the FF stuff for the MSFF hit the CPU pretty hard. I opened up the Sidewinder control software and hit the tab where FF effects can be tested by pressing various buttons on the wheel. Whenever a FF effect was active, CPU utilization jumped from 2-4% to approximately 40% (!!!) as seen with Wintop. This is such a shame because I really like the wheel and pedals. I'm planning on checking out a Logitech Wingman Formula Force next week. HTH, John [email hidden] wrote: : I just bought this wheel it was the only one in town I could find.Kind : of high.I didnt want to spend 150 bucks on a wheel.My kid broke my : nascar pro wheel.Any body have any comments on this wheel. : Sent via Deja.com http://www.deja.com/ : Before you buy.

I guess you had already purchased the wheel when I warned you about this very thing... You should like the Logitech FF USB wheel. -- [email hidden] "John Kozak" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:8j55kf$1ab$[email hidden]... > Hi Robin, > > I just received my MSFF several days ago and I'm pretty disappointed with > it. Hooking this wheel up to my system drops framerates in Re-Volt from > 65-70 FPS to 19-25. Framerates in NFS/PU also *seem* adversely affected. > > It seems like the FF stuff for the MSFF hit the CPU pretty hard. I opened > up the Sidewinder control software and hit the tab where FF effects can be > tested by pressing various buttons on the wheel. Whenever a FF effect > was active, CPU utilization jumped from 2-4% to approximately 40% (!!!) > as seen with Wintop. > > This is such a shame because I really like the wheel and pedals. I'm planning > on checking out a Logitech Wingman Formula Force next week. > > HTH, > > John > > [email hidden] wrote: > : I just bought this wheel it was the only one in town I could find.Kind > : of high.I didnt want to spend 150 bucks on a wheel.My kid broke my > : nascar pro wheel.Any body have any comments on this wheel. > > > : Sent via Deja.com http://www.deja.com/ > : Before you buy.

Yeah, I was under the false impression that a P3-750 could handle the overhead of the MSFF. Guess not. My LWFF (cheesy pedals and all :) is on its way. Thanks for the recommendations, Greg - John Greg Cisko <[email hidden]> wrote: : I guess you had already purchased the wheel when I : warned you about this very thing... You should like the : Logitech FF USB wheel. : -- : [email hidden] : "John Kozak" <[email hidden]> wrote in message : news:8j55kf$1ab$[email hidden]... :> Hi Robin, :> :> I just received my MSFF several days ago and I'm pretty disappointed with :> it. Hooking this wheel up to my system drops framerates in Re-Volt from :> 65-70 FPS to 19-25. Framerates in NFS/PU also *seem* adversely affected. :> :> It seems like the FF stuff for the MSFF hit the CPU pretty hard. I opened :> up the Sidewinder control software and hit the tab where FF effects can be :> tested by pressing various buttons on the wheel. Whenever a FF effect :> was active, CPU utilization jumped from 2-4% to approximately 40% (!!!) :> as seen with Wintop. :> :> This is such a shame because I really like the wheel and pedals. I'm : planning :> on checking out a Logitech Wingman Formula Force next week. :> :> HTH, :> :> John :> :> [email hidden] wrote: :> : I just bought this wheel it was the only one in town I could find.Kind :> : of high.I didnt want to spend 150 bucks on a wheel.My kid broke my :> : nascar pro wheel.Any body have any comments on this wheel. :> :> :> : Sent via Deja.com http://www.deja.com/ :> : Before you buy.

John, My P2-350 works fine with the Logitech USB. There is no trouble with processor load at all. Must admit I'm shocked that MSFF causes such trouble. Steve John Kozak wrote:

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> Hi Robin, > > I just received my MSFF several days ago and I'm pretty disappointed with > it. Hooking this wheel up to my system drops framerates in Re-Volt from > 65-70 FPS to 19-25. Framerates in NFS/PU also *seem* adversely affected. > > It seems like the FF stuff for the MSFF hit the CPU pretty hard. I opened > up the Sidewinder control software and hit the tab where FF effects can be > tested by pressing various buttons on the wheel. Whenever a FF effect > was active, CPU utilization jumped from 2-4% to approximately 40% (!!!) > as seen with Wintop. > > This is such a shame because I really like the wheel and pedals. I'm planning > on checking out a Logitech Wingman Formula Force next week. > > HTH, > > John > > [email hidden] wrote: > : I just bought this wheel it was the only one in town I could find.Kind > : of high.I didnt want to spend 150 bucks on a wheel.My kid broke my > : nascar pro wheel.Any body have any comments on this wheel. > > : Sent via Deja.com http://www.deja.com/ > : Before you buy.

"Steven Crook-Dawkins" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]... > John, > > My P2-350 works fine with the Logitech USB. There is no trouble > with processor load at all. Must admit I'm shocked that MSFF > causes such trouble. Not a shock once you learn the numbers. The MSFF takes 1.5million CPU cycles to do one FF event, while the LWFF takes 50k. -- [email hidden]

John Kozak <[email hidden]> wrote: >Yeah, I was under the false impression that a P3-750 could handle the >overhead of the MSFF. Guess not. My LWFF (cheesy pedals and all :) >is on its way. You will like it. Very low CPU use, very smooth, subtle effects. Especially nice for real sims like GPL (much nice feel than the MS whell in my opinion). Joe McGinn _____________________ Radical Entertainment

My own experience with the MSFF is that I didn't notice any drop in fps at all... this was when I was using it on my old P233MMX machine which I would have thought would have really made the drop noticeable. Currently using a LWFF but may well hook up the MSFF again to see if I these problems are noticeable on my newer system. Peter Hooper Steven Crook-Dawkins <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]...

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> John, > > My P2-350 works fine with the Logitech USB. There is no trouble > with processor load at all. Must admit I'm shocked that MSFF > causes such trouble. > > Steve > > John Kozak wrote: > > > Hi Robin, > > > > I just received my MSFF several days ago and I'm pretty disappointed

with > > it. Hooking this wheel up to my system drops framerates in Re-Volt from > > 65-70 FPS to 19-25. Framerates in NFS/PU also *seem* adverselyaffected. > > > > It seems like the FF stuff for the MSFF hit the CPU pretty hard. Iopened > > up the Sidewinder control software and hit the tab where FF effects canbe > > tested by pressing various buttons on the wheel. Whenever a FF effect > > was active, CPU utilization jumped from 2-4% to approximately 40% (!!!) > > as seen with Wintop. > > > > This is such a shame because I really like the wheel and pedals. I'mplanning

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> > on checking out a Logitech Wingman Formula Force next week. > > > > HTH, > > > > John > > > > [email hidden] wrote: > > : I just bought this wheel it was the only one in town I could find.Kind > > : of high.I didnt want to spend 150 bucks on a wheel.My kid broke my > > : nascar pro wheel.Any body have any comments on this wheel. > > > > : Sent via Deja.com http://www.deja.com/ > > : Before you buy. >