why ???
btw , it's not "everything"...
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yeah what awesome pleasure you've just give to racing sim community with D3D
patch !!!!
so please, keep on, and give us a ACT-LAB RS SHIFTER patch... you did it for
NASCAR 3.
and it seems not to be too complicated... MGI have said it take them half
an hour to make the patch for VIPER RACING.
personnally, I'm even ready to PAY for this !!
In article <[email hidden]>,
"koko" <[email hidden]> wrote:
> yeah what awesome pleasure you've just give to racing sim communitywith D3D
> patch !!!!
> so please, keep on, and give us a ACT-LAB RS SHIFTER patch... you didit for
> NASCAR 3.
> and it seems not to be too complicated... MGI have said it take themhalf
> an hour to make the patch for VIPER RACING.
>
> personnally, I'm even ready to PAY for this !!
>
>
I'm also eagerly waiting for this patch, but I think it may not be so
easy for GPL. I believe GPL blips the throttle when you're downshifting
(when in neutral) to rev up the engine. With the current sequential
shifting GPL knows when you're downshifting, but with the RS Shifter it
wouldn't know until you kick in the next gear; when you have just get
out of a gear and set it no neutral, (when the blip should be done),
GPL doesn't know what your intentions are. I'm afraid that a patch for
the shifter mantaining the current automatic clutch of GPL is not
trivial at all. What do you think?
--javier
Sent via Deja.com http://www.deja.com/
Before you buy.
koko <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]...
> yeah what awesome pleasure you've just give to racing sim community withD3D
> patch !!!!
> so please, keep on, and give us a ACT-LAB RS SHIFTER patch... you did itfor
> NASCAR 3.
> and it seems not to be too complicated... MGI have said it take them half
> an hour to make the patch for VIPER RACING.
I second that request. It would make GPL harder but more realistic.
Cheers
Phil
--
GPL Rank: +66.44 secs
http://www.youpies.co.uk
why ???
btw , it's not "everything"...
I thought the Hewland gearboxes that alot of the 67 car used were
sequential.
If that's the case, a H pattern would not be realistic :-)
Phil Lee <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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> koko <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]... > > yeah what awesome pleasure you've just give to racing sim community with > D3D > > patch !!!! > > so please, keep on, and give us a ACT-LAB RS SHIFTER patch... you did it > for > > NASCAR 3. > > and it seems not to be too complicated... MGI have said it take themQuoted text (15 lines)
> > an hour to make the patch for VIPER RACING. > > > I second that request. It would make GPL harder but more realistic. > > Cheers > > Phil > > -- > GPL Rank: +66.44 secs > > http://www.youpies.co.uk > >Quoted text (7 lines)
> "Steve Garey" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > news:Vem55.1678$[email hidden]... > > I thought the Hewland gearboxes that alot of the 67 car used were > > sequential. > > > > If that's the case, a H pattern would not be realistic :-) > >I third the request! Although it would definitely be harder. Running Sears
Point in N3 last night with my new 4 speed shifter plate - and Nascar 50th Hurst
Shifter knob - I would have to look when I shifted or take the risk of slamming
into 1st gear when going about 90Mph ;) I'm sure I would get used to it though.
Wish I had the opportunity to do just that...
--David Cook
In article <[email hidden]>, [email hidden] wrote...
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> yeah what awesome pleasure you've just give to racing sim community with D3D > patch !!!! > so please, keep on, and give us a ACT-LAB RS SHIFTER patch... you did it for > NASCAR 3. > and it seems not to be too complicated... MGI have said it take them half > an hour to make the patch for VIPER RACING. > > personnally, I'm even ready to PAY for this !! > > >
"Steve Garey" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
news:Vem55.1678$[email hidden]...
> I thought the Hewland gearboxes that alot of the 67 car used were
> sequential.
>
> If that's the case, a H pattern would not be realistic :-)
Fortunately for the realism of GPL you are wrong. They are standard H
patterns.
And the cockpit in GPL wouldn't be realistic either.
"Steve Garey" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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> > D3D
> > > patch !!!!
> > > so please, keep on, and give us a ACT-LAB RS SHIFTER patch... you didit
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> I thought the Hewland gearboxes that alot of the 67 car used were > sequential. > > If that's the case, a H pattern would not be realistic :-) > > > Phil Lee <[email hidden]> wrote in message > news:K7l55.1469$[email hidden]... > > koko <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]... > > > yeah what awesome pleasure you've just give to racing sim communityQuoted text (21 lines)
> > for > > > NASCAR 3. > > > and it seems not to be too complicated... MGI have said it take them > half > > > an hour to make the patch for VIPER RACING. > > > > > > I second that request. It would make GPL harder but more realistic. > > > > Cheers > > > > Phil > > > > -- > > GPL Rank: +66.44 secs > > > > http://www.youpies.co.uk > > > > > >I think they should do the patch anyway! besides, I didn't think that GPL
blips the throttle for you, I figured that the engine revs will always do
that little 'jump', because the engine is unloaded when in neutral.
--
-Ace-
> I'm also eagerly waiting for this patch, but I think it may not be so
> easy for GPL. I believe GPL blips the throttle when you're downshifting
> (when in neutral) to rev up the engine. With the current sequential
> shifting GPL knows when you're downshifting, but with the RS Shifter it
> wouldn't know until you kick in the next gear; when you have just get
> out of a gear and set it no neutral, (when the blip should be done),
> GPL doesn't know what your intentions are. I'm afraid that a patch for
> the shifter mantaining the current automatic clutch of GPL is not
> trivial at all. What do you think?
> --javier
I don't know and I don't care. GPL more than any other sim deserves all the
control realism it can get. If Kaemmer & Co. really do care about their
baby, which despite sales is the best sim ever made, then one would think
they would want to add that big missing piece...that shifter. I can't
express how frustrating it is to be staring over at the useless up/down
shifter in the old mode when I so badly want to remove the template and
start driving it like a real car!
From Act Labs, it takes an average of half an hour to an hour to add support
to a game.
Randy
<[email hidden]> wrote in message news:8j5ab6$mmh$[email hidden]...
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> In article <[email hidden]>, > "koko" <[email hidden]> wrote: > > yeah what awesome pleasure you've just give to racing sim community > with D3D > > patch !!!! > > so please, keep on, and give us a ACT-LAB RS SHIFTER patch... you did > it for > > NASCAR 3. > > and it seems not to be too complicated... MGI have said it take them > half > > an hour to make the patch for VIPER RACING. > > > > personnally, I'm even ready to PAY for this !! > > > > > > I'm also eagerly waiting for this patch, but I think it may not be so > easy for GPL. I believe GPL blips the throttle when you're downshifting > (when in neutral) to rev up the engine. With the current sequential > shifting GPL knows when you're downshifting, but with the RS Shifter it > wouldn't know until you kick in the next gear; when you have just get > out of a gear and set it no neutral, (when the blip should be done), > GPL doesn't know what your intentions are. I'm afraid that a patch for > the shifter mantaining the current automatic clutch of GPL is not > trivial at all. What do you think? > --javier > > > Sent via Deja.com http://www.deja.com/ > Before you buy. >I use a homebuilt H-shifter for GPL and it works great with or without
clutch. And it would work even better with a proper H-shifter patch. GPL is
one of the few games that passes neutral between the gears, and that makes
it ideal for a real H pattern. And I don't think it's harder to add RS
shifter support for GPL than any other racing game.
The rev blip you hear happens because the wheels/gearbox forces the engine
to "blip" if the road speed is too high when you downshift.
--
/M Lindqvist
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>
> I'm also eagerly waiting for this patch, but I think it may not be so
> easy for GPL. I believe GPL blips the throttle when you're downshifting
> (when in neutral) to rev up the engine. With the current sequential
> shifting GPL knows when you're downshifting, but with the RS Shifter it
> wouldn't know until you kick in the next gear; when you have just get
> out of a gear and set it no neutral, (when the blip should be done),
> GPL doesn't know what your intentions are. I'm afraid that a patch for
> the shifter mantaining the current automatic clutch of GPL is not
> trivial at all. What do you think?
> --javier
>
>
> Sent via Deja.com http://www.deja.com/
> Before you buy.
Yes Please! How hard can it be? To be able to chomp it down two gears on
the entry! I add my voice to the rising song! WE WANT THE SHIFTER PATCH!!
pls plspls :-)
jv
koko <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]...
> yeah what awesome pleasure you've just give to racing sim community withD3D
> patch !!!!
> so please, keep on, and give us a ACT-LAB RS SHIFTER patch... you did itfor
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> NASCAR 3. > and it seems not to be too complicated... MGI have said it take them half > an hour to make the patch for VIPER RACING. > > personnally, I'm even ready to PAY for this !! > >Just read an article in an old "Motorsport" mag where one of the hacks
drives a Lotus 49. Apparently, the Hewland 5 speed gearbox has a "dog leg
first", although in the pictures of the cockpit do not show a clearly
defined H pattern.
Therefore, for true realism...........................
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