Under 9:00 at the Ring...*so* close...

ARGH! I've probably run about 30-40 laps this weekend at the Ring. I just finished a 5-lap block. My times were:9:00.60, 9:14.52, 9:01.36, 9:14.35, 9:11.03. I just CAN'T seem to break the 'barrier'. I honestly thought my last lap was good - I had 3 quick spins in the 9:01 lap, and just one in the last one.<sigh...> Eldred -- Tiger Stadium R.I.P. 1912-1999 Homepage - http://www.umich.edu/~epickett GPL hcp. +70.45 Never argue with an idiot. He brings you down to his level, then beats you with experience... Remove SPAM-OFF to reply.

On Sun 25 Jun 2000 09:54:13pm, EldredP wrote: >ARGH! I've probably run about 30-40 laps this weekend at the Ring. >I just finished a 5-lap block. My times were:9:00.60, 9:14.52, >9:01.36, 9:14.35, 9:11.03. I just CAN'T seem to break the >'barrier'. I honestly thought my last lap was good - I had 3 quick >spins in the 9:01 lap, and just one in the last one.<sigh...> Oh, I feel for you, I really do! I was stuck in the 9:0x bracket for a while too. Eventually, I gave up with the Lotus and switched to the Ferrari. Result - 8:58! -- David. (GPLRank handicap: +39.92) "After all, a mere thousand yards - such a harmless little knoll, really." (Raymond Mays on Shelsley Walsh)

ARGH! I've probably run about 30-40 laps this weekend at the Ring. I just finished a 5-lap block. My times were:9:00.60, 9:14.52, 9:01.36, 9:14.35, 9:11.03. I just CAN'T seem to break the 'barrier'. I honestly thought my last lap was good - I had 3 quick spins in the 9:01 lap, and just one in the last one.<sigh...> Eldred -- Tiger Stadium R.I.P. 1912-1999 Homepage - http://www.umich.edu/~epickett GPL hcp. +70.45 Never argue with an idiot. He brings you down to his level, then beats you with experience... Remove SPAM-OFF to reply.

Whatcha drivin Eldred?? I switched to the sLotus from the Ferrari and went from 9:18 to a 8:52. BTW- I used to have a press pass for Tiger Stadium back in 82-84. I moved to Texas the summer before we won the series. :( Rik EldredP <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]... > ARGH! I've probably run about 30-40 laps this weekend at the Ring. Ijust > finished a 5-lap block. My times were:9:00.60, 9:14.52, 9:01.36, 9:14.35, > 9:11.03. I just CAN'T seem to break the 'barrier'. I honestly thought mylast > lap was good - I had 3 quick spins in the 9:01 lap, and just one in thelast

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> one.<sigh...> > > Eldred > -- > Tiger Stadium R.I.P. 1912-1999 > Homepage - http://www.umich.edu/~epickett > GPL hcp. +70.45 > > Never argue with an idiot. He brings you down to his level, then beats

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>Wow! You've got to believe that sub 9 is in your near future; just a week >ago you >were wondering how you managed a 9:16 lap and those lap five laps were all >under >that. You're almost there and you still having a few spins. You must have >really >picked up the pace in some (if not all of the sections). > >At this rate you'll be asking how to get below 8:30 in a few weeks.

Hopefully<g> Yes, I do believe I can go under 9 minutes. I just have to keep from screwing up... 8:30? That I'm not so sure of(yet). I'll let you know in another 50 laps... :) Eldred -- Tiger Stadium R.I.P. 1912-1999 Homepage - http://www.umich.edu/~epickett GPL hcp. +70.45 Never argue with an idiot. He brings you down to his level, then beats you with experience... Remove SPAM-OFF to reply.

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>>In my league race, pole was 8:24. My qual. was 9:28. Everybody >>basically checked out at the start. I just drove around admiring the >>scenery... :) >>If I could do consistent 8:30's or so, I'd be happy. > >It's not that much different for me in the league I'm in. It's been >infiltrated >by aliens(their everywhere). I have little hope of a podium finish much less >a >win. But that's ok, just like in real life, a few guys do most of the >winning. >There's good racing at the back of the pack, and as long as I'm racing >someone, >and I feel I'm driving well, then it's fun, and the posistion doesn't matter >much. >

Hehe...I'm not even THAT good. In my league races, and my other VROC races, I usually end up running around by myself. I see other cars only when the leaders come up to lap me. I can count the number of times when I was actually RACING someone on one hand... :( Eldred -- Tiger Stadium R.I.P. 1912-1999 Homepage - http://www.umich.edu/~epickett GPL hcp. +70.45 Never argue with an idiot. He brings you down to his level, then beats you with experience... Remove SPAM-OFF to reply.

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>EldredP wrote: >> >> ARGH! I've probably run about 30-40 laps this weekend at the Ring. I just >> finished a 5-lap block. My times were:9:00.60, 9:14.52, 9:01.36, 9:14.35, >> 9:11.03. I just CAN'T seem to break the 'barrier'. I honestly thought my >last >> lap was good - I had 3 quick spins in the 9:01 lap, and just one in the >last >> one.<sigh...> >> > > >Damn you!!! Weren't you playing ReVolt or something? <g> >

I haven't gotten back to Best Buy yet. Actually, I had forgotten about it...<g> Although I *did* waste about an hour last night playing Dirt Track Racing. On the Amateur setting, I'm unbeaten... Eldred -- Tiger Stadium R.I.P. 1912-1999 Homepage - http://www.umich.edu/~epickett GPL hcp. +70.45 Never argue with an idiot. He brings you down to his level, then beats you with experience... Remove SPAM-OFF to reply.

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>[email hidden] (EldredP) wrote in ><[email hidden]>: > >>ARGH! I've probably run about 30-40 laps this weekend at the Ring. >>I just finished a 5-lap block. My times were:9:00.60, 9:14.52, >>9:01.36, 9:14.35, 9:11.03. I just CAN'T seem to break the >>'barrier'. I honestly thought my last lap was good - I had 3 quick >>spins in the 9:01 lap, and just one in the last one.<sigh...> >> > >Eldred, my man, you are starting to kick butt! How long ago was it >you couldn't get under 11 minutes? The answer you seek is hidden in >your question. Slow it down just a little and eliminate those spins, >get smooth, maximize your speed on the fast bits, and as you've >learned, MORE LAPS.

I've run more laps at the Ring since GPL Rank started than I had in the whole time I've owned the game... Although I don't exactly consider 9:00-9:15 as kicking butt. In my league race, pole was 8:24. My qual. was 9:28. Everybody basically checked out at the start. I just drove around admiring the scenery... :) If I could do consistent 8:30's or so, I'd be happy. Eldred -- Tiger Stadium R.I.P. 1912-1999 Homepage - http://www.umich.edu/~epickett GPL hcp. +70.45 Never argue with an idiot. He brings you down to his level, then beats you with experience... Remove SPAM-OFF to reply.

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>Whatcha drivin Eldred?? I switched to the sLotus from the Ferrari and went >from 9:18 to a 8:52. >BTW- I used to have a press pass for Tiger Stadium back in 82-84. I moved to >Texas the summer before we won the series. :( >Rik >EldredP <[email hidden]> wrote in message >news:[email hidden]... >> ARGH! I've probably run about 30-40 laps this weekend at the Ring. I >just >> finished a 5-lap block. My times were:9:00.60, 9:14.52, 9:01.36, 9:14.35, >> 9:11.03. I just CAN'T seem to break the 'barrier'. I honestly thought my >last >> lap was good - I had 3 quick spins in the 9:01 lap, and just one in the >last >> one.<sigh...> >> >> Eldred

Ferrari. I ran a 9:30 and 9:20 in a Cooper league race yesterday. It took me a while to get used to the Ferrari again... Press pass? What publication did you work for? That sounds pretty cool... You just left too soon...<g> Eldred -- Tiger Stadium R.I.P. 1912-1999 Homepage - http://www.umich.edu/~epickett GPL hcp. +70.45 Never argue with an idiot. He brings you down to his level, then beats you with experience... Remove SPAM-OFF to reply.

[email hidden] (EldredP) wrote in <[email hidden]>: >ARGH! I've probably run about 30-40 laps this weekend at the Ring. >I just finished a 5-lap block. My times were:9:00.60, 9:14.52, >9:01.36, 9:14.35, 9:11.03. I just CAN'T seem to break the >'barrier'. I honestly thought my last lap was good - I had 3 quick >spins in the 9:01 lap, and just one in the last one.<sigh...> > Eldred, my man, you are starting to kick butt! How long ago was it you couldn't get under 11 minutes? The answer you seek is hidden in your question. Slow it down just a little and eliminate those spins, get smooth, maximize your speed on the fast bits, and as you've learned, MORE LAPS. Don Scurlock Vancouver,B.C. GPLRank -1.90 Come see how you rate, at the GPLRank site http://newgplrank.schuerkamp.de/

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> > ARGH! I've probably run about 30-40 laps this weekend at the Ring. I just > finished a 5-lap block. My times were:9:00.60, 9:14.52, 9:01.36, 9:14.35, > 9:11.03. I just CAN'T seem to break the 'barrier'. I honestly thought my last > lap was good - I had 3 quick spins in the 9:01 lap, and just one in the last > one.<sigh...> >

Damn you!!! Weren't you playing ReVolt or something? <g> -- Chuck Kandler GPL F1 Handicap of +210.00 as of 6/15 GPL F3 Handicap of +438.42 as of 6/21 K&S Racing http://www.fortunecity.com/silverstone/thepits/195 Registered Linux User #180746 http://counter.li.org

[email hidden] (EldredP) wrote in <20000625224146.08062.00004551@nso- ct.aol.com>:

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>In article <8F5EADC41dscurlock@news>, [email hidden] (Don Scurlock) >writes: >>Eldred, my man, you are starting to kick butt! How long ago was it >>you couldn't get under 11 minutes? The answer you seek is hidden in >>your question. Slow it down just a little and eliminate those spins, >>get smooth, maximize your speed on the fast bits, and as you've >>learned, MORE LAPS. > >I've run more laps at the Ring since GPL Rank started than I had in the whole >time I've owned the game...

Your making up for your delinquent past, and look at the result, it works. >Although I don't exactly consider 9:00-9:15 as >kicking butt. Well, I said "starting" ;-) >In my league race, pole was 8:24. My qual. was 9:28. Everybody >basically checked out at the start. I just drove around admiring the >scenery... :) >If I could do consistent 8:30's or so, I'd be happy. It's not that much different for me in the league I'm in. It's been infiltrated by aliens(their everywhere). I have little hope of a podium finish much less a win. But that's ok, just like in real life, a few guys do most of the winning. There's good racing at the back of the pack, and as long as I'm racing someone, and I feel I'm driving well, then it's fun, and the posistion doesn't matter much. -- Don Scurlock Vancouver,B.C. GPLRank -1.90 Come see how you rate, at the GPLRank site http://newgplrank.schuerkamp.de/

I know the feeling, my sentiments exactly. Jan./GPLRank of about +35s =--- Don Scurlock wrote... > <snip> > It's not that much different for me in the league I'm in. It's beeninfiltrated > by aliens(their everywhere). I have little hope of a podium finish muchless a > win. But that's ok, just like in real life, a few guys do most of thewinning. > There's good racing at the back of the pack, and as long as I'm racingsomeone, > and I feel I'm driving well, then it's fun, and the posistion doesn'tmatter

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> ARGH! I've probably run about 30-40 laps this weekend at the Ring. I just > finished a 5-lap block. My times were:9:00.60, 9:14.52, 9:01.36, 9:14.35, > 9:11.03. I just CAN'T seem to break the 'barrier'. I honestly thought my last > lap was good - I had 3 quick spins in the 9:01 lap, and just one in the last > one.<sigh...> > > Eldred > -- > Tiger Stadium R.I.P. 1912-1999 > Homepage - http://www.umich.edu/~epickett > GPL hcp. +70.45 > > Never argue with an idiot. He brings you down to his level, then beats you > with experience... > Remove SPAM-OFF to reply.

Wow! You've got to believe that sub 9 is in your near future; just a week ago you were wondering how you managed a 9:16 lap and those lap five laps were all under that. You're almost there and you still having a few spins. You must have really picked up the pace in some (if not all of the sections). At this rate you'll be asking how to get below 8:30 in a few weeks. best of luck Ken MacKay Halifax, Canada GPL Handicap +111.61

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>In article <8F5ED1D68dscurlock@news>, [email hidden] >(Don Scurlock) >writes: > >>>In my league race, pole was 8:24. My qual. was 9:28. Everybody >>>basically checked out at the start. I just drove around admiring the >>>scenery... :) >>>If I could do consistent 8:30's or so, I'd be happy. >> >>It's not that much different for me in the league I'm in. It's been >>infiltrated >>by aliens(their everywhere). I have little hope of a podium finish much less >>a >>win. But that's ok, just like in real life, a few guys do most of the >>winning. >>There's good racing at the back of the pack, and as long as I'm racing >>someone, >>and I feel I'm driving well, then it's fun, and the posistion doesn't matter >>much. >> > >Hehe...I'm not even THAT good. In my league races, and my other VROC >races, I >usually end up running around by myself. I see other cars only when the >leaders come up to lap me. I can count the number of times when I was >actually >RACING someone on one hand... :( > >Eldred

I'm not sure if this would work, but I've thought of a way of making league racing more even. What each player needs to do is list the order of preference for the cars according to how quick they are/reckon they could be in them. So in my case it would be something like: Lotus Eagle Ferrari Brabham Coventry/Cooper Murasama/Honda BRM Each driver is then allowed to start the season in their favourite chassis but, depending on the race results, the car they have to drive next time around will change in the following way. 1st or 2nd - drop 3 marques 3rd or 4th - drop 2 marques 5th or 6th - drop 1 marque Outside the top 6 then move up a marque So, if I were to finish in the top 6 in the Lotus then in the next race I would drive either the Eagle, Ferrari or Brabham. Let's say I finished 3rd so that in the next race I am in the Ferrari for the 2nd race. If I now finish 3rd again in this race then I would drop 2 further marques down to the Coventry/Cooper. If, however I finished outside the top 6 in the 2nd race then I would move back up 1 marque to the Eagle. Get the idea? Perhaps, in this way, there could be league races where everyone could be competitive. It would take more paperwork, but perhaps it could work? -- Peter Ives - (AKA Ivington) No person's opinions can be said to be more correct than another's, because each is the sole judge of his or her own experience.

There's certainly logic to it Peter, and a similar system is used in real racing today where if you win you get weight added for the next race to slow you down. But in gpl the difference between cars is small compared to the difference between drivers. In my league the fastest guys last year were all put in BRM's for this year, and they are still way faster than most. It helps some, but not enough to even the field. [email hidden] (Peter Ives) wrote in <[email hidden]>:

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> >I'm not sure if this would work, but I've thought of a way of making >league racing more even. What each player needs to do is list the >order of preference for the cars according to how quick they are/reckon >they could be in them. So in my case it would be something like: > >Lotus >Eagle >Ferrari >Brabham >Coventry/Cooper >Murasama/Honda >BRM > >Each driver is then allowed to start the season in their favourite >chassis but, depending on the race results, the car they have to drive >next time around will change in the following way. > >1st or 2nd - drop 3 marques >3rd or 4th - drop 2 marques >5th or 6th - drop 1 marque >Outside the top 6 then move up a marque > >So, if I were to finish in the top 6 in the Lotus then in the next race >I would drive either the Eagle, Ferrari or Brabham. Let's say I >finished 3rd so that in the next race I am in the Ferrari for the 2nd >race. If I now finish 3rd again in this race then I would drop 2 >further marques down to the Coventry/Cooper. If, however I finished >outside the top 6 in the 2nd race then I would move back up 1 marque to >the Eagle. Get the idea? > >Perhaps, in this way, there could be league races where everyone could >be competitive. It would take more paperwork, but perhaps it could >work? >

-- Don Scurlock Vancouver,B.C. GPLRank -1.90 Come see how you rate, at the GPLRank site http://newgplrank.schuerkamp.de/

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>There's certainly logic to it Peter, and a similar system is used in real >racing today where if you win you get weight added for the next race to slow >you down. But in gpl the difference between cars is small compared to the >difference between drivers. In my league the fastest guys last year were all >put in BRM's for this year, and they are still way faster than most. It helps > >some, but not enough to even the field.

We run Coopers. I'm STILL about 4-5 seconds off the pace of the fast guys... :( Eldred -- Tiger Stadium R.I.P. 1912-1999 Homepage - http://www.umich.edu/~epickett GPL hcp. +70.45 Never argue with an idiot. He brings you down to his level, then beats you with experience... Remove SPAM-OFF to reply.

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> > There's certainly logic to it Peter, and a similar system is used in real > racing today where if you win you get weight added for the next race to slow > you down. But in gpl the difference between cars is small compared to the > difference between drivers. In my league the fastest guys last year were all > put in BRM's for this year, and they are still way faster than most. It helps > some, but not enough to even the field. >

F2's? :)

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> [email hidden] (Peter Ives) wrote in > <[email hidden]>: > > > >I'm not sure if this would work, but I've thought of a way of making > >league racing more even. What each player needs to do is list the > >order of preference for the cars according to how quick they are/reckon > >they could be in them. So in my case it would be something like: > > > >Lotus > >Eagle > >Ferrari > >Brabham > >Coventry/Cooper > >Murasama/Honda > >BRM > > > >Each driver is then allowed to start the season in their favourite > >chassis but, depending on the race results, the car they have to drive > >next time around will change in the following way. > > > >1st or 2nd - drop 3 marques > >3rd or 4th - drop 2 marques > >5th or 6th - drop 1 marque > >Outside the top 6 then move up a marque > > > >So, if I were to finish in the top 6 in the Lotus then in the next race > >I would drive either the Eagle, Ferrari or Brabham. Let's say I > >finished 3rd so that in the next race I am in the Ferrari for the 2nd > >race. If I now finish 3rd again in this race then I would drop 2 > >further marques down to the Coventry/Cooper. If, however I finished > >outside the top 6 in the 2nd race then I would move back up 1 marque to > >the Eagle. Get the idea? > > > >Perhaps, in this way, there could be league races where everyone could > >be competitive. It would take more paperwork, but perhaps it could > >work? > > > > -- > Don Scurlock > Vancouver,B.C. > GPLRank -1.90 > > Come see how you rate, at the GPLRank site > http://newgplrank.schuerkamp.de/

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> > There's certainly logic to it Peter, and a similar system is used in real > racing today where if you win you get weight added for the next race to slow > you down. But in gpl the difference between cars is small compared to the > difference between drivers. In my league the fastest guys last year were all > put in BRM's for this year, and they are still way faster than most. It helps > some, but not enough to even the field. >

F2's? :)

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> [email hidden] (Peter Ives) wrote in > <[email hidden]>: > > > >I'm not sure if this would work, but I've thought of a way of making > >league racing more even. What each player needs to do is list the > >order of preference for the cars according to how quick they are/reckon > >they could be in them. So in my case it would be something like: > > > >Lotus > >Eagle > >Ferrari > >Brabham > >Coventry/Cooper > >Murasama/Honda > >BRM > > > >Each driver is then allowed to start the season in their favourite > >chassis but, depending on the race results, the car they have to drive > >next time around will change in the following way. > > > >1st or 2nd - drop 3 marques > >3rd or 4th - drop 2 marques > >5th or 6th - drop 1 marque > >Outside the top 6 then move up a marque > > > >So, if I were to finish in the top 6 in the Lotus then in the next race > >I would drive either the Eagle, Ferrari or Brabham. Let's say I > >finished 3rd so that in the next race I am in the Ferrari for the 2nd > >race. If I now finish 3rd again in this race then I would drop 2 > >further marques down to the Coventry/Cooper. If, however I finished > >outside the top 6 in the 2nd race then I would move back up 1 marque to > >the Eagle. Get the idea? > > > >Perhaps, in this way, there could be league races where everyone could > >be competitive. It would take more paperwork, but perhaps it could > >work? > > > > -- > Don Scurlock > Vancouver,B.C. > GPLRank -1.90 > > Come see how you rate, at the GPLRank site > http://newgplrank.schuerkamp.de/

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> > There's certainly logic to it Peter, and a similar system is used in real > racing today where if you win you get weight added for the next race to slow > you down. But in gpl the difference between cars is small compared to the > difference between drivers. In my league the fastest guys last year were all > put in BRM's for this year, and they are still way faster than most. It helps > some, but not enough to even the field. >

F2's? :)

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> [email hidden] (Peter Ives) wrote in > <[email hidden]>: > > > >I'm not sure if this would work, but I've thought of a way of making > >league racing more even. What each player needs to do is list the > >order of preference for the cars according to how quick they are/reckon > >they could be in them. So in my case it would be something like: > > > >Lotus > >Eagle > >Ferrari > >Brabham > >Coventry/Cooper > >Murasama/Honda > >BRM > > > >Each driver is then allowed to start the season in their favourite > >chassis but, depending on the race results, the car they have to drive > >next time around will change in the following way. > > > >1st or 2nd - drop 3 marques > >3rd or 4th - drop 2 marques > >5th or 6th - drop 1 marque > >Outside the top 6 then move up a marque > > > >So, if I were to finish in the top 6 in the Lotus then in the next race > >I would drive either the Eagle, Ferrari or Brabham. Let's say I > >finished 3rd so that in the next race I am in the Ferrari for the 2nd > >race. If I now finish 3rd again in this race then I would drop 2 > >further marques down to the Coventry/Cooper. If, however I finished > >outside the top 6 in the 2nd race then I would move back up 1 marque to > >the Eagle. Get the idea? > > > >Perhaps, in this way, there could be league races where everyone could > >be competitive. It would take more paperwork, but perhaps it could > >work? > > > > -- > Don Scurlock > Vancouver,B.C. > GPLRank -1.90 > > Come see how you rate, at the GPLRank site > http://newgplrank.schuerkamp.de/

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> > There's certainly logic to it Peter, and a similar system is used in real > racing today where if you win you get weight added for the next race to slow > you down. But in gpl the difference between cars is small compared to the > difference between drivers. In my league the fastest guys last year were all > put in BRM's for this year, and they are still way faster than most. It helps > some, but not enough to even the field. >

F2's? :)

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> [email hidden] (Peter Ives) wrote in > <[email hidden]>: > > > >I'm not sure if this would work, but I've thought of a way of making > >league racing more even. What each player needs to do is list the > >order of preference for the cars according to how quick they are/reckon > >they could be in them. So in my case it would be something like: > > > >Lotus > >Eagle > >Ferrari > >Brabham > >Coventry/Cooper > >Murasama/Honda > >BRM > > > >Each driver is then allowed to start the season in their favourite > >chassis but, depending on the race results, the car they have to drive > >next time around will change in the following way. > > > >1st or 2nd - drop 3 marques > >3rd or 4th - drop 2 marques > >5th or 6th - drop 1 marque > >Outside the top 6 then move up a marque > > > >So, if I were to finish in the top 6 in the Lotus then in the next race > >I would drive either the Eagle, Ferrari or Brabham. Let's say I > >finished 3rd so that in the next race I am in the Ferrari for the 2nd > >race. If I now finish 3rd again in this race then I would drop 2 > >further marques down to the Coventry/Cooper. If, however I finished > >outside the top 6 in the 2nd race then I would move back up 1 marque to > >the Eagle. Get the idea? > > > >Perhaps, in this way, there could be league races where everyone could > >be competitive. It would take more paperwork, but perhaps it could > >work? > > > > -- > Don Scurlock > Vancouver,B.C. > GPLRank -1.90 > > Come see how you rate, at the GPLRank site > http://newgplrank.schuerkamp.de/

> There's certainly logic to it Peter, and a similar system is used in real > racing today where if you win you get weight added for the next race to slow > you down. But in gpl the difference between cars is small compared to the > difference between drivers. In my league the fastest guys last year were all > put in BRM's for this year, and they are still way faster than most. It helps > some, but not enough to even the field. F2's? :)

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> >I'm not sure if this would work, but I've thought of a way of making > >league racing more even. What each player needs to do is list the > >order of preference for the cars according to how quick they are/reckon > >they could be in them. So in my case it would be something like: > >Lotus > >Eagle > >Ferrari > >Brabham > >Coventry/Cooper > >Murasama/Honda > >BRM > >Each driver is then allowed to start the season in their favourite > >chassis but, depending on the race results, the car they have to drive > >next time around will change in the following way. > >1st or 2nd - drop 3 marques > >3rd or 4th - drop 2 marques > >5th or 6th - drop 1 marque > >Outside the top 6 then move up a marque > >So, if I were to finish in the top 6 in the Lotus then in the next race > >I would drive either the Eagle, Ferrari or Brabham. Let's say I > >finished 3rd so that in the next race I am in the Ferrari for the 2nd > >race. If I now finish 3rd again in this race then I would drop 2 > >further marques down to the Coventry/Cooper. If, however I finished > >outside the top 6 in the 2nd race then I would move back up 1 marque to > >the Eagle. Get the idea? > >Perhaps, in this way, there could be league races where everyone could > >be competitive. It would take more paperwork, but perhaps it could > >work? > -- > Don Scurlock > Vancouver,B.C. > GPLRank -1.90 > Come see how you rate, at the GPLRank site > http://newgplrank.schuerkamp.de/

> There's certainly logic to it Peter, and a similar system is used in real > racing today where if you win you get weight added for the next race to slow > you down. But in gpl the difference between cars is small compared to the > difference between drivers. In my league the fastest guys last year were all > put in BRM's for this year, and they are still way faster than most. It helps > some, but not enough to even the field. F2's? :)

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> >I'm not sure if this would work, but I've thought of a way of making > >league racing more even. What each player needs to do is list the > >order of preference for the cars according to how quick they are/reckon > >they could be in them. So in my case it would be something like: > >Lotus > >Eagle > >Ferrari > >Brabham > >Coventry/Cooper > >Murasama/Honda > >BRM > >Each driver is then allowed to start the season in their favourite > >chassis but, depending on the race results, the car they have to drive > >next time around will change in the following way. > >1st or 2nd - drop 3 marques > >3rd or 4th - drop 2 marques > >5th or 6th - drop 1 marque > >Outside the top 6 then move up a marque > >So, if I were to finish in the top 6 in the Lotus then in the next race > >I would drive either the Eagle, Ferrari or Brabham. Let's say I > >finished 3rd so that in the next race I am in the Ferrari for the 2nd > >race. If I now finish 3rd again in this race then I would drop 2 > >further marques down to the Coventry/Cooper. If, however I finished > >outside the top 6 in the 2nd race then I would move back up 1 marque to > >the Eagle. Get the idea? > >Perhaps, in this way, there could be league races where everyone could > >be competitive. It would take more paperwork, but perhaps it could > >work? > -- > Don Scurlock > Vancouver,B.C. > GPLRank -1.90 > Come see how you rate, at the GPLRank site > http://newgplrank.schuerkamp.de/

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> > Don Scurlock wrote: > > > > There's certainly logic to it Peter, and a similar system is used in real > > racing today where if you win you get weight added for the next race to slow > > you down. But in gpl the difference between cars is small compared to the > > difference between drivers. In my league the fastest guys last year were all > > put in BRM's for this year, and they are still way faster than most. It helps > > some, but not enough to even the field. > > > > F2's? :) >

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F8's <G> MS "Peter Ives" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]... > Don Scurlock wrote: > > > > There's certainly logic to it Peter, and a similar system is used inreal > > racing today where if you win you get weight added for the next race toslow > > you down. But in gpl the difference between cars is small compared tothe > > difference between drivers. In my league the fastest guys last year wereall > > put in BRM's for this year, and they are still way faster than most. Ithelps

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> > some, but not enough to even the field. > > > > F2's? :) > > > [email hidden] (Peter Ives) wrote in > > <[email hidden]>: > > > > > >I'm not sure if this would work, but I've thought of a way of making > > >league racing more even. What each player needs to do is list the > > >order of preference for the cars according to how quick they are/reckon > > >they could be in them. So in my case it would be something like: > > > > > >Lotus > > >Eagle > > >Ferrari > > >Brabham > > >Coventry/Cooper > > >Murasama/Honda > > >BRM > > > > > >Each driver is then allowed to start the season in their favourite > > >chassis but, depending on the race results, the car they have to drive > > >next time around will change in the following way. > > > > > >1st or 2nd - drop 3 marques > > >3rd or 4th - drop 2 marques > > >5th or 6th - drop 1 marque > > >Outside the top 6 then move up a marque > > > > > >So, if I were to finish in the top 6 in the Lotus then in the next race > > >I would drive either the Eagle, Ferrari or Brabham. Let's say I > > >finished 3rd so that in the next race I am in the Ferrari for the 2nd > > >race. If I now finish 3rd again in this race then I would drop 2 > > >further marques down to the Coventry/Cooper. If, however I finished > > >outside the top 6 in the 2nd race then I would move back up 1 marque to > > >the Eagle. Get the idea? > > > > > >Perhaps, in this way, there could be league races where everyone could > > >be competitive. It would take more paperwork, but perhaps it could > > >work? > > > > > > > -- > > Don Scurlock > > Vancouver,B.C. > > GPLRank -1.90 > > > > Come see how you rate, at the GPLRank site > > http://newgplrank.schuerkamp.de/

In article <[email hidden]>, Peter Ives <[email hidden]> writes

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>Peter Ives wrote: >> >> Don Scurlock wrote: >> > >> > There's certainly logic to it Peter, and a similar system is used in real >> > racing today where if you win you get weight added for the next race to >slow >> > you down. But in gpl the difference between cars is small compared to >the >> > difference between drivers. In my league the fastest guys last year were >all >> > put in BRM's for this year, and they are still way faster than most. It helps >> > some, but not enough to even the field. >> > >> >> F2's? :) >> > >Oops! Stupid Newsreader/ISP. Kept telling me it hadn't sent it. Grrr!

Mmm, now I'm confused. Did I send the same post more than once? I'm not really sure. Oh well, who cares. :) -- Peter Ives - (AKA Ivington) No person's opinions can be said to be more correct than another's, because each is the sole judge of his or her own experience.

If I could do consistent 9:30's or so at the moment I would be happy ;O) Haven't run too many laps at the Ring and have only managed a best of 9:38.14 so far. Need to get it down below the 9 min mark to get my ranking below the +100.. Oi!!! stop sniggering.. it's not that bad... The Euro 2000 Championships have took up a lot of my GPL time of late so I am hoping to get a good few laps under my belt over the next couple of nights as I am away for the weekend and will be suffering GPL withdrawal symptons... If I can get anywhere close to +100 by then I will be a happy man. Peter Hooper EldredP <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]... > In article <8F5EADC41dscurlock@news>, [email hidden] (DonScurlock) > writes: > > >[email hidden] (EldredP) wrote in > ><[email hidden]>: > > I've run more laps at the Ring since GPL Rank started than I had in thewhole > time I've owned the game... Although I don't exactly consider 9:00-9:15as > kicking butt. In my league race, pole was 8:24. My qual. was 9:28.Everybody

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> basically checked out at the start. I just drove around admiring the > scenery... :) > If I could do consistent 8:30's or so, I'd be happy. > > Eldred > -- > Tiger Stadium R.I.P. 1912-1999 > Homepage - http://www.umich.edu/~epickett > GPL hcp. +70.45

I'm down to 53 something, but I just can't seem to get that push over the edge...What speed should I be doing the Kink at Spa, for example, and how on earth do you do 1.25 at Silverstone? -- Colin Harris ColinHarris in N3/NL & VROC Remove "your knickers" to reply > If I can get anywhere close to +100 by then I will be a happy man. > > Peter Hooper