Re: Confession and Questions about GPL

"nixx" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:39596bc0.19229468@news-server... > 3. With GP3 coming out, and struggling to get faster with F12K, is it > even worth bothering with? Should I use my precious little time I > have to try and master this beast? If you're serious about driving and racing, GPL is the *only* sim available. I read the reviews and previews of newer titles the same as everyone here. And then I stand in the aisles in the local Best Buy, having just decided that "Yes, it's worth a look", I put it back, wondering what it is I'm hoping to find that I don't find in GPL. Am I looking for eye candy? Faster lap times? More satisfaction from mastering an arcane skill? A more "complete" experience? Or am I buying simply out of habit? What would it mean to me if I were to find myself at the top of the F1-2k league some evening? I'd feel cheated, definitely, because I know my standing on the GPL heap doesn't warrant that. At $20, the title is a phenomenal bargain. At a very conservative guess of 200, that works out to 10� per hour. Worth every penny, I would dare say. Michael.

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> Ok, I confess. I got the warez version of GPL ages ago and > never really played with it. After watching this group for a while > now, I had the itch to try it again. My questions are now: > > 1. Before, I could run it fine with a V2. Now, with the V3, It > wouldn't run at all except in software mode. The GL driver wouldnt > work, and I (naturally) couldn't upgrade with the patch. The D3D > driver works ok now (I can run it at 1600 alone). Will I have that > problem if I buy it? Can I get a full screen with those high > resolutions?

Normally you can't patch a warez version to 1.2 but anyway you would have to do this, i think a lot of problems are solved in the 1.2 version, to heck the version you have look at the bottom, but in theory you sgould be able to run a 3dfx version with V3 > > 2. Can I run it online with a cable modem? Yes it's hard to set but that should be okay, you have to get VROC to play it online > > 3. With GP3 coming out, and struggling to get faster with F12K, is it > even worth bothering with? Should I use my precious little time I > have to try and master this beast? Yes because F12K sucks and GPL is a very good training for ALL car sims, if you are good in GPl you'll be good everywhere, it's like driving a real car, brake late, turn in while braking.... > > 4. If I buy it, where should I start (point me to a web site)? Anywhere online if you are in the US you should be able to get it for about 15$, in the UK maybe for 12-15�

yeah, I love the copy protection schemes of F1GP and ICR1 too ;)) cheers, Alex

Ok, I confess. I got the warez version of GPL ages ago and never really played with it. After watching this group for a while now, I had the itch to try it again. My questions are now: 1. Before, I could run it fine with a V2. Now, with the V3, It wouldn't run at all except in software mode. The GL driver wouldnt work, and I (naturally) couldn't upgrade with the patch. The D3D driver works ok now (I can run it at 1600 alone). Will I have that problem if I buy it? Can I get a full screen with those high resolutions? 2. Can I run it online with a cable modem? 3. With GP3 coming out, and struggling to get faster with F12K, is it even worth bothering with? Should I use my precious little time I have to try and master this beast? 4. If I buy it, where should I start (point me to a web site)?

"nixx" <[email hidden]> wrote > Ok, I confess. I got the warez version of GPL ages ago and > never really played with it. After watching this group for a while > now, I had the itch to try it again. My questions are now: So you bought it or your still using your warez version? I think we won't help you until you answered that ;) And if so, what's the first word of the second page of the second GPL manual? ;) -- -- Fran�ois M�nard <ymenard> -- May the Downforce be with you... -- http://www.WeRace.net -- People think it must be fun to be a super genius, but they don't realise how hard it is to put up with all the idiots in the world.

See Q 4 of the original post. ymenard <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:Eqe65.5839$[email hidden]...

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> "nixx" <[email hidden]> wrote > > Ok, I confess. I got the warez version of GPL ages ago and > > never really played with it. After watching this group for a while > > now, I had the itch to try it again. My questions are now: > > > So you bought it or your still using your warez version? > > I think we won't help you until you answered that ;) > > And if so, what's the first word of the second page of the second GPL > manual? ;)

Harjan Brand <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:xmk65.2953$[email hidden]... > I forget the word alone somewhere in that sentence, but you probably > understood what I meant. Hehe...changes the meaning entirely. My jaw dropped after reading the first post, only to see what you really meant. :-)

Only the books that come with it are worth the $15.

Only the books that come with it are worth the $15. "nixx" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:39596bc0.19229468@news-server...

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> Ok, I confess. I got the warez version of GPL ages ago and > never really played with it. After watching this group for a while > now, I had the itch to try it again. My questions are now: > > 1. Before, I could run it fine with a V2. Now, with the V3, It > wouldn't run at all except in software mode. The GL driver wouldnt > work, and I (naturally) couldn't upgrade with the patch. The D3D > driver works ok now (I can run it at 1600 alone). Will I have that > problem if I buy it? Can I get a full screen with those high > resolutions? > > 2. Can I run it online with a cable modem? > > 3. With GP3 coming out, and struggling to get faster with F12K, is it > even worth bothering with? Should I use my precious little time I > have to try and master this beast? > > 4. If I buy it, where should I start (point me to a web site)?

I forget the word alone somewhere in that sentence, but you probably understood what I meant. "nixx" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:39596bc0.19229468@news-server...

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> Ok, I confess. I got the warez version of GPL ages ago and > never really played with it. After watching this group for a while > now, I had the itch to try it again. My questions are now: > > 1. Before, I could run it fine with a V2. Now, with the V3, It > wouldn't run at all except in software mode. The GL driver wouldnt > work, and I (naturally) couldn't upgrade with the patch. The D3D > driver works ok now (I can run it at 1600 alone). Will I have that > problem if I buy it? Can I get a full screen with those high > resolutions? > > 2. Can I run it online with a cable modem? > > 3. With GP3 coming out, and struggling to get faster with F12K, is it > even worth bothering with? Should I use my precious little time I > have to try and master this beast? > > 4. If I buy it, where should I start (point me to a web site)?

On Wed, 28 Jun 2000 13:42:32 +0200 Txl <[email hidden]> wrote: % nixx <[email hidden]> a crit dans le message : % 39596bc0.19229468@news-server... % > Ok, I confess. I got the warez version of GPL ages ago and % > never really played with it. After watching this group for a while % > now, I had the itch to try it again. My questions are now: % > % > 1. Before, I could run it fine with a V2. Now, with the V3, It % > wouldn't run at all except in software mode. The GL driver wouldnt % > work, and I (naturally) couldn't upgrade with the patch. The D3D % > driver works ok now (I can run it at 1600 alone). Will I have that % > problem if I buy it? Can I get a full screen with those high % > resolutions? % Normally you can't patch a warez version to 1.2 but anyway you would have to % do this, i think a lot of problems are solved in the 1.2 version, to heck % the version you have look at the bottom, but in theory you sgould be able to % run a 3dfx version with V3 Make sure you have the latest drivers for the V3 and that your system is totally purged of any references etc. for V2. -- **************************** Michael E. Carver ************************* Upside out, or inside down...False alarm the only game in town. [email hidden] http://www.teleport.com/~mcarver =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=<[ /./. [- < ]>=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=

"EldredP" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]... > >"complete" experience? Or am I buying simply out of habit? What would it > >mean to me if I were to find myself at the top of the F1-2k league some > >evening? I'd feel cheated, definitely, because I know my standing on theGPL > >heap doesn't warrant that. > > Why not? If you're at the top, you're at the top. It wouldn't matter ifit > was in GPL, F12K, or Carmageddon... If Carmageddon defined something meaningful to you, of course, yes. It doesn't to me, not that this should diminish your enjoyment of your standing there. I draw the comparison because I don't expect F12k challenge your driving skills as much as GPL does. I could be wrong of course; I have yet to see even a playable demo. The question I pose is: do you expect F12k to match your GPL experience? Michael.

Those damn manual protections. I bought F1GP at a software resale shop, I open the box, no manual...oh well I'll figure it out. Run the game....mother f----er!!!! I like cracks now! ;-) Jon "Alexander Marx" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]... > yeah, I love the copy protection schemes of F1GP and ICR1 too ;)) > > cheers, > Alex > >

On Wed, 28 Jun 2000 22:44:16 -0500, "Jon Van Ginneken" <[email hidden]> wrote: >Those damn manual protections. I bought F1GP at a software resale shop, I >open the box, no manual...oh well I'll figure it out. Run the >game....mother f----er!!!! I like cracks now! ;-) And we're supposed to believe that? :)) Andre

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> >Jon > > >"Alexander Marx" <[email hidden]> wrote in message >news:[email hidden]... >> yeah, I love the copy protection schemes of F1GP and ICR1 too ;)) >> >> cheers, >> Alex >> >> > >

>Why not? If you're at the top, you're at the top. It wouldn't matter if it >was in GPL, F12K, or Carmageddon... Ahh....Carmageddon 2. The most realistic sim in the world. No one can kill me at Carmageddon 2. Because I kill and kill and kill and kill and kill and kill and kill and kill and kill................

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>"EldredP" <[email hidden]> wrote in message >news:[email hidden]... >> >"complete" experience? Or am I buying simply out of habit? What would it >> >mean to me if I were to find myself at the top of the F1-2k league some >> >evening? I'd feel cheated, definitely, because I know my standing on the >GPL >> >heap doesn't warrant that. >> >> Why not? If you're at the top, you're at the top. It wouldn't matter if >it >> was in GPL, F12K, or Carmageddon... > >If Carmageddon defined something meaningful to you, of course, yes. It >doesn't to me, not that this should diminish your enjoyment of your standing >there. I draw the comparison because I don't expect F12k challenge your >driving skills as much as GPL does. I could be wrong of course; I have yet >to see even a playable demo. The question I pose is: do you expect F12k to >match your GPL experience? > >Michael.

I don't know. I don't have it yet. From what people are saying, my machine might not even run it smoothly. Since there's no demo to test it, I'm waiting until either:1)I get a new system, or 2) The price drops considerably. Eldred -- Tiger Stadium R.I.P. 1912-1999 Homepage - http://www.umich.edu/~epickett GPL hcp. +70.45 Never argue with an idiot. He brings you down to his level, then beats you with experience... Remove SPAM-OFF to reply.

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>"nixx" <[email hidden]> wrote in message >news:39596bc0.19229468@news-server... >> 3. With GP3 coming out, and struggling to get faster with F12K, is it >> even worth bothering with? Should I use my precious little time I >> have to try and master this beast? > >If you're serious about driving and racing, GPL is the *only* sim available. >I read the reviews and previews of newer titles the same as everyone here. >And then I stand in the aisles in the local Best Buy, having just decided >that "Yes, it's worth a look", I put it back, wondering what it is I'm >hoping to find that I don't find in GPL. Am I looking for eye candy? Faster >lap times? More satisfaction from mastering an arcane skill? A more >"complete" experience? Or am I buying simply out of habit? What would it >mean to me if I were to find myself at the top of the F1-2k league some >evening? I'd feel cheated, definitely, because I know my standing on the GPL >heap doesn't warrant that.

Why not? If you're at the top, you're at the top. It wouldn't matter if it was in GPL, F12K, or Carmageddon... Eldred -- Tiger Stadium R.I.P. 1912-1999 Homepage - http://www.umich.edu/~epickett GPL hcp. +70.45 Never argue with an idiot. He brings you down to his level, then beats you with experience... Remove SPAM-OFF to reply.

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> >On Wed, 28 Jun 2000 22:44:16 -0500, "Jon Van Ginneken" ><[email hidden]> wrote: > >>Those damn manual protections. I bought F1GP at a software resale shop, I >>open the box, no manual...oh well I'll figure it out. Run the >>game....mother f----er!!!! I like cracks now! ;-) > >And we're supposed to believe that? :)) > >Andre

Oh, we are a cynical bunch, aren't we? :) ----------------------------------------- Dan Belcher Team Racing Unlimited http://simcrash.00game.com

Thanks for all your input. I don't have any doubt that GPL is a great game, and I have no intention of spending any time fooling with the warez version. If I like it, I buy it. I hope nobody got the wrong impression about that. I got that warez version a long time ago, before I started racing. I guess my main intent here was to make sure I could actually run it properly before buying it. I never did see anyone comment if I could run it full screen (i.e., not that letterbox thing) at 1600. The game runs comfortably at that res for me with the D3D driver, but should I be trying to make the Glide patch work? I don't see how it could look any better. BTW, the V3 works properly, and has no resident V2 drivers lurking around. This experimentation has all taken place with a new install of Bill's finest and the newest V3 drivers. As for all the F12K bashing, well, that's a matter of personal opinion. I rather like the game, although I know the tracks aren't accurate, the physics suck, etc. I originally only got it because it had Indy, but after massive patching, found it to be ok. Of course, this whole argument will be moot after GP3 (or at least we all hope). So, now I'm off to buy GPL!

> > What would it mean to me if I were to find myself at the top of the > > F1-2k league some evening? I'd feel cheated, definitely, because I > > know my standing on the GPL heap doesn't warrant that. > > Why not? If you're at the top, you're at the top. It wouldn'tmatter if it > was in GPL, F12K, or Carmageddon... > > Eldred That remind me of a character in Flight over the cookoo's nest (or something like that) book, where the guy want's to be the best in everything ... he was in the madhouse ... and at the end he succeded ... GPL all the way !!! Sent via Deja.com http://www.deja.com/ Before you buy.

On Wed, 28 Jun 2000 03:12:49 GMT, [email hidden] (nixx) wrote: >4. If I buy it, where should I start (point me to a web site)? In case you haven't bought it yet, Media Play marked it down to $9.99. The best price I've found online is at www.cdromusa.com for $13.95. I happened to buy an extra at Media Play if you want it. Email me for details. David Snider