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Joystick switchboxes or 3-way cables don't work!

7 posts by 7 people · 08 Jul 2000 01:23 UTC - 10 Jul 2000 19:23 UTC

gregs 08 Jul 2000 01:23 UTC#257267
I'll make this short and hopefully easy-to-understand: 1) Got 3 Microsoft peripherals (Gamepad, FF Joystick, FF Wheel). 2) Got tired to crawling underneath to switch them around all the time. 3) Bought a 3-way game cable. Didn't work. 4) Bought a Radio Shack 3 way game switchbox. Didn't work. The "didn't work" bit means that if I had more than 1 device plugged into either the cable or the switchbox (regardless of the switchbox setting), the Joystick control panel would always say "MS Gamepad" (even if it was the joystick and wheel plugged in). Even if I removed the Gamepad setting from the control panel and added the other two, it would automatically switch back to Gamepad. Either there's some Joystick control panel setting I don't understand, or MS devices can't be plugged in more than one at a time. I mean, they wouldn't make these cables or switchboxes if they didn't work for anyone, would they? Please help! Thanks! Greg
BRH 08 Jul 2000 01:51 UTC#257268
Was this an electronic switchbox or a mechanical one? I've had success with mechanical switchboxes. I believe that the electronic ones, which are supposed to somehow automatically sense which controller you want to use, don't work very well. I've used a 4-way mechanical switchbox for some time. TSW wheel -- MS Gamepad -- various joysticks -- MIDI keyboard. It worked fine. Just remember that, in addition to throwing the switch on the box, you still have to change the controller on ID #1 on Windows Control Panel. BTW -- my mechanical switch box was bought at a local computer swap show. I've never seen one in a mainstream store. Hope this helps. gregs wrote:
Quoted text (26 lines)> I'll make this short and hopefully easy-to-understand: > > 1) Got 3 Microsoft peripherals (Gamepad, FF Joystick, FF Wheel). > > 2) Got tired to crawling underneath to switch them around all the time. > > 3) Bought a 3-way game cable. Didn't work. > > 4) Bought a Radio Shack 3 way game switchbox. Didn't work. > > The "didn't work" bit means that if I had more than 1 device plugged into > either the cable or the switchbox (regardless of the switchbox setting), the > Joystick control panel would always say "MS Gamepad" (even if it was the > joystick and wheel plugged in). > > Even if I removed the Gamepad setting from the control panel and added the > other two, it would automatically switch back to Gamepad. > > Either there's some Joystick control panel setting I don't understand, or MS > devices can't be plugged in more than one at a time. I mean, they wouldn't > make these cables or switchboxes if they didn't work for anyone, would they? > > Please help! > > Thanks! > Greg
Dave Henrie 08 Jul 2000 02:24 UTC#257112
yes, I use a box called joyswitch. I can have two different pedals and 4 joysticks connected. But I still have to go into the control panel section and remove the unactive one so I can enable another choice. I flip the switch to whatever combo I want, then enter the 'game controller' control panel and remove my old choice and add a new one. This works very well for sticks and wheels that use the soundcard's joyport, but won't do a thing for users who have USB equipment. (I have some of both, and can remove the usb wheel if I want to use the sidewinder joystick) dave henrie "gregs" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:gov95.10022$[email hidden]...
Quoted text (12 lines)> I'll make this short and hopefully easy-to-understand: > > 1) Got 3 Microsoft peripherals (Gamepad, FF Joystick, FF Wheel). > > 2) Got tired to crawling underneath to switch them around all the time. > > 3) Bought a 3-way game cable. Didn't work. > > 4) Bought a Radio Shack 3 way game switchbox. Didn't work. > > The "didn't work" bit means that if I had more than 1 device plugged into > either the cable or the switchbox (regardless of the switchbox setting),
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Quoted text (7 lines)> Joystick control panel would always say "MS Gamepad" (even if it was the > joystick and wheel plugged in). > > Even if I removed the Gamepad setting from the control panel and added the > other two, it would automatically switch back to Gamepad. > > Either there's some Joystick control panel setting I don't understand, or
MS > devices can't be plugged in more than one at a time. I mean, they wouldn't > make these cables or switchboxes if they didn't work for anyone, wouldthey? > > Please help! > > Thanks! > Greg >
Matthew V. Jessick 08 Jul 2000 03:29 UTC#257127
I have used several switches in the past, and they worked for some equipment and not others. The gameport MS FF Wheel might be a particular problem. Even a particular switch that promised MIDI support didn't seem to work with it. If you have other wheels or can convince a friend with another controller to help you test, you might be able to determine if the wheel is just too picky for the switch. Other problems I've had is hooking too many controllers to one port on the switch (say a throttle, stick and rudder pedals on one port, with driving gear on another.) In this case, the power requirements for all of them might be too much for the gameport to supply through the switch. I was able in one case to split some of them off onto other ports of the switch which seemed to work more reliably. > Either there's some Joystick control panel setting I don't understand, or MS > devices can't be plugged in more than one at a time. I mean, they wouldn't > make these cables or switchboxes if they didn't work for anyone, would they? If Windows DirectX doesn't agree with the type of equipment plugged in, then you pronbably aren't getting adequate signal from some of the analog axes. Perhaps you are only getting enough to make it match the profile of the gamepad... - Matt
T.M.K. 08 Jul 2000 17:23 UTC#257236
I've been using a joyswitch setup for several years with no problems. It's currently setup with a MS gamepad, CH Combatstick, Suncom Talon and SFS Throttle, and a TM Gran Prix 1 wheel all working through a set of CH pedals. The trick is to change the drivers when you switch the hardware. I found the CH Quickjoy program a blessing. I load it at start up so it's always running in my task bar. When I change controllers through the joyswitch, I left click the icon on the taskbar and change the drivers. You can even access the Windows joystick control panel for testing and calibrating each controller.
Bill G. 10 Jul 2000 02:59 UTC#256825
I also use 3 MS devices: MSFF Wheel, game pad, and a Sidewinder Precision Pro stick. They are connected to my computer as follows: Stick is plugged into the USB port Game pad is plugged into the game port Wheel is plugged into the game pad pass through plug I use CH Products QuickJoy program to switch devices. To use the wheel, you must first deactivate the game pad by pressing the mode button on the pad. This setup has worked great for a couple years. Bill G.
Larry 10 Jul 2000 19:23 UTC#256657
The MS FF stuff uses the Midi signals on the Joystick port (for the FF effects), and they are digital devices. Could that be why it won't work? A guess, I assure you:) -Larry ----------------------------------------------------------- Got questions? Get answers over the phone at Keen.com. Up to 100 minutes free! http://www.keen.com

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