Re: Banked Monza being made for GPL!

Seen them all.IM WAITING FOR GOODWOOD!!! :-)

Thanks for the reality check.

Actually on the GPLEA forum someone named Chris is claiming to be working on the track right now. Whether or not the project will be completed remains to be seen, but someone is definitely giving it a go! ...Colin �artijn <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:01bfe837$f6431520$e81040d4@martijn... > Where did you get this info?? > As far as I know (pretty far) no-one is even considering making banked > Monza. Dont get everyones hopes up for nothing.

HELLL YEAH!!!!!! This is going to be so fun s*it for GPL with JTRC Goodwood And now A BANKED MONZA!!!! Wow.

Sheesh I have no clue about that one. But i cant get into GPLEA site. :-( i want to make sure this is true.

Where did you get this info?? As far as I know (pretty far) no-one is even considering making banked Monza. Dont get everyones hopes up for nothing. Tony StewartNo20 <[email hidden]> schreef in artikel <[email hidden]>... > HELLL YEAH!!!!!! This is going to be so fun s*it for GPL with JTRCGoodwood And > now A BANKED MONZA!!!! Wow. >

Thanks for the reality check.

hooray!!!

Seen them all.IM WAITING FOR GOODWOOD!!! :-)

Just read this on the GPLEA forum: >> How wide was the banking? > I'm not a Monza historian, I just thought you might be making the track with banking. I found a website that has some stuff, but I don't know if it will help. the link is at the bottom of the page. Thanks, but I already had that one...and yes I am, so I guess it's official now. I wanted to wait until I was a ways along before I made anything public. I'll post a url showing my work in a few days. Final completion is still months away as I don't know the track.3do well enough yet to build tracks. However, the .trk is about 75% done. Go Chris! Go Chris! Go Chris! Andre

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> > Just read this on the GPLEA forum: > > >> How wide was the banking? > > > I'm not a Monza historian, I just thought you might be making the track with banking. I found a website that has some stuff, but I don't know if it will help. the link is at the bottom of the page. > > Thanks, but I already had that one...and yes I am, so I guess it's > official now. I wanted to wait until I was a ways along before I made > anything public. I'll post a url showing my work in a few days. Final > completion is still months away as I don't know the track.3do well > enough yet to build tracks. However, the .trk is about 75% done. > > Go Chris! Go Chris! Go Chris! > > Andre

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hooray!!! Tony StewartNo20 <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]... > HELLL YEAH!!!!!! This is going to be so fun s*it for GPL with JTRCGoodwood And > now A BANKED MONZA!!!! Wow.

On 07 Jul 2000 16:26:15 GMT, [email hidden] (Tony StewartNo20) wrote: >HELLL YEAH!!!!!! This is going to be so fun s*it for GPL with JTRC Goodwood And >now A BANKED MONZA!!!! Wow. And don't forget Solitude, I think that track will be fantastic. A couple of months ago there were some rumors about Suzuka being made for GPL. Any news about this? Andre

"�artijn" <[email hidden]> wrote > Where did you get this info?? > As far as I know (pretty far) no-one is even considering making banked > Monza. Dont get everyones hopes up for nothing. Eh <no comments> -- -- Fran�ois M�nard <ymenard> -- May the Downforce be with you... -- http://www.WeRace.net -- People think it must be fun to be a super genius, but they don't realise how hard it is to put up with all the idiots in the world.

Isnt it like 23feet-26? (guessing)

Really!.......dreams do come true.......... Colin <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:8k5cg3$510$[email hidden]... > Actually on the GPLEA forum someone named Chris is claiming to be workingon > the track right now. > Whether or not the project will be completed remains to be seen, butsomeone > is definitely giving it a go! > ...Colin > > �artijn <[email hidden]> wrote in messagenews:01bfe837$f6431520$e81040d4@martijn... > > Where did you get this info?? > > As far as I know (pretty far) no-one is even considering making banked > > Monza. Dont get everyones hopes up for nothing. > > >

oh no its happining. THE BEST TO GPL IS THIS YEAR!!! LOL I cant wait!!!

On 07 Jul 2000 17:06:49 GMT, [email hidden] (Tony StewartNo20) wrote: >Sheesh I have no clue about that one. >But i cant get into GPLEA site. :-( i want to make sure this is true. Here are some pics from the upcoming Solitude track: http://home.wanadoo.nl/~m.keizer/pics/ Andre

On 07 Jul 2000 17:14:10 GMT, "�artijn" <[email hidden]> wrote: >Where did you get this info?? >As far as I know (pretty far) no-one is even considering making banked >Monza. Dont get everyones hopes up for nothing. I think you missed my message, here it is again (I feel like the guy who posts his GP3 site every day now): Andre Warringa wrote:

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> > Just read this on the GPLEA forum: > > >> How wide was the banking? > > > I'm not a Monza historian, I just thought you might be making the track with banking. I found a website that has some stuff, but I don't know if it will help. the link is at the bottom of the page. > > Thanks, but I already had that one...and yes I am, so I guess it's > official now. I wanted to wait until I was a ways along before I made > anything public. I'll post a url showing my work in a few days. Final > completion is still months away as I don't know the track.3do well > enough yet to build tracks. However, the .trk is about 75% done. > > Go Chris! Go Chris! Go Chris! > > Andre

http://simcyberworld.simplenet.com/mza4.gif Jon "�artijn" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:01bfe837$f6431520$e81040d4@martijn...

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> Where did you get this info?? > As far as I know (pretty far) no-one is even considering making banked > Monza. Dont get everyones hopes up for nothing. > > > Tony StewartNo20 <[email hidden]> schreef in artikel > <[email hidden]>... > > HELLL YEAH!!!!!! This is going to be so fun s*it for GPL with JTRC > Goodwood And > > now A BANKED MONZA!!!! Wow. > >

On Fri, 7 Jul 2000 19:38:16 -0500, "Jon Van Ginneken" <[email hidden]> wrote: >http://simcyberworld.simplenet.com/mza4.gif > >Jon Oh boy... any more info Jon? Andre

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> >"�artijn" <[email hidden]> wrote in message >news:01bfe837$f6431520$e81040d4@martijn... >> Where did you get this info?? >> As far as I know (pretty far) no-one is even considering making banked >> Monza. Dont get everyones hopes up for nothing. >> >> >> Tony StewartNo20 <[email hidden]> schreef in artikel >> <[email hidden]>... >> > HELLL YEAH!!!!!! This is going to be so fun s*it for GPL with JTRC >> Goodwood And >> > now A BANKED MONZA!!!! Wow. >> > >

"Andre Warringa" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]...

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> On Fri, 7 Jul 2000 19:38:16 -0500, "Jon Van Ginneken" > <[email hidden]> wrote: > > >http://simcyberworld.simplenet.com/mza4.gif > > > >Jon > > Oh boy... any more info Jon? > > Andre

That's a trk I last did editing on 2 weeks ago (it's not the track Joe from GPLEA was talking about). The track needs to have the banking added in T3-T4 along with 1 more elevation line around the entire track so that banking can be done in T4. I'm certain that it's a bit inaccurate in terms of layout of the racing line, but it's difficult to connect 2 tracks together to make 1 then to make things a little worse I'm sure Papy wasn't 100% (maybe 99.99999% :-) accurate w/ their Monza which will amplify some errors a bit...I can't do the 3do though so it's really just kinda of pet project to say I did it, that's just a pic of the trk I've done using the GPLReplayAnalyzer24...I'm interested to see what GPLEA comes up with, should be nice! I can tell you that if the trk is done correctly it will work in any Sierra sim (if converted to certain sim's format), I did 2 different crossover tracks in ICR2 just after reading High Gear's interview with Kaemmer, b4 reading that article it was my impression that they would not work, but they both worked...like some of the GPLEA guys have said on their board b4, there'll probably be some problems seeing the crossover but that's no biggie when you're talkin about the 10k Monza online in both GPL, N3, and hopefully N4! Jon

On Fri, 7 Jul 2000 19:38:16 -0500, "Jon Van Ginneken" >http://sim***world.simplenet.com/mza4.gif >Jon Oh boy... any more info Jon? Andre

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>> Where did you get this info?? >> As far as I know (pretty far) no-one is even considering making banked >> Monza. Dont get everyones hopes up for nothing. >> > HELLL YEAH!!!!!! This is going to be so fun s*it for GPL with JTRC >> Goodwood And >> > now A BANKED MONZA!!!! Wow.

Isnt it like 23feet-26? (guessing)

On Fri, 7 Jul 2000 22:39:56 -0500, "Jon Van Ginneken" <[email hidden]> wrote: <snip> > to make >things a little worse I'm sure Papy wasn't 100% (maybe 99.99999% :-) >accurate w/ their Monza which will amplify some errors a bit... Are you sure? I read they had blueprints for all tracks except for 1 (don't know which one they missed) so it should be quite accurate. Then again, I once saw a satelite picture from Spa merged with the GPL track. Very close, but they were just a tad different at some places... Well, maybe Spa was the track of which they didn't have the blueprint. >I can't do >the 3do though so it's really just kinda of pet project to say I did it, >that's just a pic of the trk I've done using the GPLReplayAnalyzer24...I'm >interested to see what GPLEA comes up with, should be nice! Chris, the guy who is working on the banked Monza, is not related to the GPLEA team. He just posts on the GPLEA forum. I don't know if you guys should stick together to help eachother to realize the banked Monza, perhaps you could post a message on the GPLEA forum to Chris, offering the data you allready collected? He needs some detailed info about the banking height and radius... Andre (trying to help Chris getting this banked Monza done asap :)

"Andre Warringa" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]...

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> On Fri, 7 Jul 2000 22:39:56 -0500, "Jon Van Ginneken" > <[email hidden]> wrote: > > <snip> > > to make > >things a little worse I'm sure Papy wasn't 100% (maybe 99.99999% :-) > >accurate w/ their Monza which will amplify some errors a bit... > > Are you sure? I read they had blueprints for all tracks except for 1 > (don't know which one they missed) so it should be quite accurate. > Then again, I once saw a satelite picture from Spa merged with the GPL > track. Very close, but they were just a tad different at some > places... Well, maybe Spa was the track of which they didn't have the > blueprint.

I did say 99.999999999% accurate. Never will a track be perfect, and never will a blueprint. I know one track in my area has a length of about 1.95 miles, but if you go by an engineering company's survey it's 1.65 miles (someone's wrong and I feel it's the survey because plenty of racers report it to be 1.95, you'ld figure they'd notice a discrepincy on the odometer and fuel consumption rate if it were 1.65). Look at how bad Papy did some of the ICR2/N3 road courses...and many of those currently exist. Something always gonna be a tad different...I think with the oval it really doesn't matter though, if the radius is off by a meter or 2, or if the banking's gradient is off by a few percent because no matter what when u have turns with 38.66degrees of banking and 320m turns it's gonna be flat out and it's gonna feel like your really on the Monza banks! Well the old Spa is on streets right? Those can change over the years....so I don't know is satelite imagery is the best comparison to what they did... > >I can't do > >the 3do though so it's really just kinda of pet project to say I did it, > >that's just a pic of the trk I've done using theGPLReplayAnalyzer24...I'm > >interested to see what GPLEA comes up with, should be nice! > > Chris, the guy who is working on the banked Monza, is not related to > the GPLEA team. He just posts on the GPLEA forum. Joe (GPLEA) implied it's a possibility that they'll work on it, I assume from his (GPLEA) tag he's part of the website. > I don't know if you guys should stick together to help eachother to > realize the banked Monza, perhaps you could post a message on the > GPLEA forum to Chris, offering the data you allready collected? > He needs some detailed info about the banking height and radius... Don't really know if I can help him outside of 3 years of experience w/ Papy trk's...but is Chris going to be able to put a 3do together? From what I know only Dave and the GPLEA guys can. > Andre (trying to help Chris getting this banked Monza done asap :) Jon (willing to help Chris get his banked Monza done asap, if he had an e-mail posted)

On Sat, 8 Jul 2000 21:32:47 -0500, "Jon Van Ginneken" <[email hidden]> wrote: <snip good explanation> >> Chris, the guy who is working on the banked Monza, is not related to >> the GPLEA team. He just posts on the GPLEA forum. > >Joe (GPLEA) implied it's a possibility that they'll work on it, I assume >from his (GPLEA) tag he's part of the website. Yes, Joe is from GPLEA, but the track is being made by Chris, who is not a GPLEA member. Afaik Joe has nothing to do with the banked Monza.

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>Don't really know if I can help him outside of 3 years of experience w/ Papy >trk's...but is Chris going to be able to put a 3do together? From what I >know only Dave and the GPLEA guys can. > >> Andre (trying to help Chris getting this banked Monza done asap :) > >Jon (willing to help Chris get his banked Monza done asap, if he had an >e-mail posted)

I forwared your email adres to Chris, I hope he contacts you. Andre

On Sat, 8 Jul 2000 21:32:47 -0500, "Jon Van Ginneken" <snip good explanation> Yes, Joe is from GPLEA, but the track is being made by Chris, who is not a GPLEA member. Afaik Joe has nothing to do with the banked Monza. I forwared your email adres to Chris, I hope he contacts you. Andre

"Andre Warringa" <[email hidden]> wrote > I forwared your email adres to Chris, I hope he contacts you. And they really -have- to use my Monza oval object placement map I sketched for hours ;-D <inside joke> -- -- Fran�ois M�nard <ymenard> -- May the Downforce be with you... -- http://www.WeRace.net -- People think it must be fun to be a super genius, but they don't realise how hard it is to put up with all the idiots in the world.

"ymenard" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:jS5a5.72854$[email hidden]... > "Andre Warringa" <[email hidden]> wrote > > I forwared your email adres to Chris, I hope he contacts you. > > > And they really -have- to use my Monza oval object placement map Isketched > for hours ;-D > > > <inside joke> Was planning on it if Chris e-mails me Frank. Jon

On Sun, 09 Jul 2000 21:09:35 GMT, "ymenard" <[email hidden]> wrote: >"Andre Warringa" <[email hidden]> wrote >> I forwared your email adres to Chris, I hope he contacts you. > > >And they really -have- to use my Monza oval object placement map I sketched >for hours ;-D He he, LOL :) Uhhh... I don't get it actually :) ><inside joke> Ah :) Andre

On Sun, 9 Jul 2000 16:13:48 -0500, "Jon Van Ginneken" <[email hidden]> wrote: >Was planning on it if Chris e-mails me Frank. He hasn't emailed you yet? He asked me not to give his email adres to others, otherwise I would have done that... Andre > >Jon >

"Andre Warringa" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]...

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> On Sun, 9 Jul 2000 16:13:48 -0500, "Jon Van Ginneken" > <[email hidden]> wrote: > > >Was planning on it if Chris e-mails me Frank. > > He hasn't emailed you yet? He asked me not to give his email adres to > others, otherwise I would have done that...

Haven't recieve an e-mail yet, I don't know if he didn't send one because this weekend my ISP has gone down a few times...tell him to go through [email hidden] if he's already sent one... Jon

On Sun, 9 Jul 2000 21:05:25 -0500, "Jon Van Ginneken" <[email hidden]> wrote: >Haven't recieve an e-mail yet, I don't know if he didn't send one because >this weekend my ISP has gone down a few times...tell him to go through >[email hidden] if he's already sent one... He allready mailed you, I forwared this message to him. Andre > >Jon

Hell, where is banked Monzsa to download???? Or should I say when?:) Good luck for The Pits crew searching a server Dirk Muessener ------------------------------------------- http://www.simracing.de http://members.tripod.de/dmu

> >It's been made What are you talkin about Jim ??? lol

It's been made Jim Dunphy The Pits "Andre Warringa" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]... > On 07 Jul 2000 16:26:15 GMT, [email hidden] (Tony > StewartNo20) wrote: > > >HELLL YEAH!!!!!! This is going to be so fun s*it for GPL with JTRCGoodwood And

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> >now A BANKED MONZA!!!! Wow. > > And don't forget Solitude, I think that track will be fantastic. > A couple of months ago there were some rumors about Suzuka being made > for GPL. Any news about this? > > Andre

On Wed, 12 Jul 2000 04:41:59 GMT, "retro" <[email hidden]> wrote: >It's been made I know I'm asking too much here, but could you explain? Andre

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> >Jim Dunphy >The Pits > >"Andre Warringa" <[email hidden]> wrote in message >news:[email hidden]... >> On 07 Jul 2000 16:26:15 GMT, [email hidden] (Tony >> StewartNo20) wrote: >> >> >HELLL YEAH!!!!!! This is going to be so fun s*it for GPL with JTRC >Goodwood And >> >now A BANKED MONZA!!!! Wow. >> >> And don't forget Solitude, I think that track will be fantastic. >> A couple of months ago there were some rumors about Suzuka being made >> for GPL. Any news about this? >> >> Andre >