What's the best FFB wheel money can buy?

Short of real cars of course. :-) Well, I'm also interested in which would be the second best, but anyway, they have to have excellent pedals, too! Are the any pedals that feel close to a real car pedal, especially for the brake? Thanks, Blaze

I don't think anyone has made the perfect product yet. Of the wheels i've owned the Logitech is definitely the best, but has dodgy pedals, although you get used to them. The Guillemot is a bit cheap in areas, and also has poor pedals. The Microsoft FF (USB version) had a big slow-down with GPL and Sports Car GT and notchy and noisy FF, so it went back to the shop. And the Thrustmaster was just awful, so that went back to the shop as well. Wouldn't like to comment on the wheels I haven't tried though...

I would agree with your review of FF wheels Simon, I have a MSFF and its forces are great in N3 but it lasted 8 months before all the LEFt side buttons quit working and the padding started to come off. I got a LWFF and its quality was top rate (Especially the wheel shape and padding) and yes the pedals are chessy (you can add the CH pedals for 50.00). I got my LWFF from computergeeks.com for 61.00 (refurbed but new). PassedYa Simon Brown wrote:

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> > I don't think anyone has made the perfect product yet. Of the wheels i've > owned the Logitech is definitely the best, but has dodgy pedals, although > you get used to them. The Guillemot is a bit cheap in areas, and also has > poor pedals. The Microsoft FF (USB version) had a big slow-down with GPL > and Sports Car GT and notchy and noisy FF, so it went back to the shop. And > the Thrustmaster was just awful, so that went back to the shop as well. > Wouldn't like to comment on the wheels I haven't tried though...

On Mon, 10 Jul 2000 17:48:24 GMT, Andre Warringa <[email hidden]> wrote:

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>On Mon, 10 Jul 2000 17:31:09 +0200, Jan Loebzien <[email hidden]> >wrote: >>Hehe, if the brake pedal in my real car would feel like I'm squeezing >>a squash ball, I'd be most concerned! :-) > >Just try it Jan, believe me, it works wonderfull.

Well I already have "stiffed them up" with some plastic foam. I'm afraid if I put harder stuff in, the hinge mechanism won't last for long. What's the consistency of a squash ball anyway? Sort of like a tennis ball? Blaze

On Mon, 10 Jul 2000 12:34:14 -0500, "Gene Bonin" <[email hidden]> wrote: >I bought the LWFF wheel and like it a lot. The pedals, as others have >mentioned, leave something to be desired. Looking for a realistic brake >pedal action, I bought the pedals from Redline. > >http://www.wave.co.nz/pages/lakewood/Redline2.htm Thanks for the link, that looks most interesting! Blaze

On Sun, 09 Jul 2000 09:01:09 -0500, Robert Jordan <[email hidden]> wrote: >I would agree with your review of FF wheels Simon, I have a MSFF and its >forces are great in N3 but it lasted 8 months before all the LEFt side >buttons quit working and the padding started to come off. I got a LWFF >and its quality was top rate (Especially the wheel shape and padding) >and yes the pedals are chessy (you can add the CH pedals for 50.00). I >got my LWFF from computergeeks.com for 61.00 (refurbed but new). Guys, thanks for the replies. Seems there isn't much choice, and no 'realistic' pedals in sight either. I do have the CH Pro Pedals but the spring action is waaaay too light for me. I was hoping for something like the Thomas wheels, just with FFB. Thanks again, Blaze

On Mon, 10 Jul 2000 11:41:07 GMT, [email hidden] (Andre Warringa) wrote: >Put a squashball under each pedal, fasten them with double sided tape, >et voila :) Hehe, if the brake pedal in my real car would feel like I'm squeezing a squash ball, I'd be most concerned! :-) Blaze

Hehe, if the brake pedal in my real car would feel like I'm squeezing a squash ball, I'd be most concerned! :-) Blaze

On Mon, 10 Jul 2000 10:18:55 +0200, Jan Loebzien <[email hidden]> wrote:

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>On Sun, 09 Jul 2000 09:01:09 -0500, Robert Jordan ><[email hidden]> wrote: >Guys, thanks for the replies. Seems there isn't much choice, and no >'realistic' pedals in sight either. I do have the CH Pro Pedals but >the spring action is waaaay too light for me. >I was hoping for something like the Thomas wheels, just with FFB.

Put a squashball under each pedal, fasten them with double sided tape, et voila :) Andre > >Thanks again, Blaze

Hi Blaze, I bought the LWFF wheel and like it a lot. The pedals, as others have mentioned, leave something to be desired. Looking for a realistic brake pedal action, I bought the pedals from Redline. http://www.wave.co.nz/pages/lakewood/Redline2.htm They're not cheap, but I can hook them up w/o rewiring anything. Nigel Nichols does superb work. His brake pedal has a secondary spring that kicks in after partial pedal travel and the feeling is very realistic.I've been thoroughly satisfied and Nigel will go out of his way for customer satisfaction. Now, if I could just go faster! Gene Jan Loebzien <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]...

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> Short of real cars of course. :-) > > Well, I'm also interested in which would be the second best, but > anyway, they have to have excellent pedals, too! > Are the any pedals that feel close to a real car pedal, especially for > the brake? > > Thanks, Blaze

On Mon, 10 Jul 2000 17:31:09 +0200, Jan Loebzien <[email hidden]> wrote:

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>On Mon, 10 Jul 2000 11:41:07 GMT, [email hidden] (Andre Warringa) >wrote: > >>Put a squashball under each pedal, fasten them with double sided tape, >>et voila :) > >Hehe, if the brake pedal in my real car would feel like I'm squeezing >a squash ball, I'd be most concerned! :-)

Just try it Jan, believe me, it works wonderfull. Andre > > >Blaze

Consider a Ball Bearing conversion for the LWFF. People tell that the quality-feeling then is like the TSW, only FF included. Cannot judge myself, since I haven't tried the TSW yet. Jens On Mon, 10 Jul 2000 10:18:55 +0200, Jan Loebzien <[email hidden]> wrote: >Guys, thanks for the replies. Seems there isn't much choice, and no >'realistic' pedals in sight either. I do have the CH Pro Pedals but >the spring action is waaaay too light for me. >I was hoping for something like the Thomas wheels, just with FFB. > >Thanks again, Blaze --------------------------------------------- [email hidden] Remove "NOSPAM" before using my email-address JensSchumi homepage at http://members.xoom.com/JensSchu/ Racing simulation, esp. GPL Logitech Wingman FF optimization Classic cars, esp. Morris Minor Radio controlled airplanes