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MS Force Feedback Wheel (USB)

8 posts by 5 people · 10 Jul 2000 - 11 Jul 2000 22:30 UTC

Why does this unit turn my Athalon into a Pentium Classic when ever force feedback is turned on? With force feed back off I can play Need For Speed Porsche at 1024x768 with full detail and smoooooth. With FF on Im down to 800x600, most of the detail off, and still fighting the jerks. Really dont want to drop to 640x480 no detail! Found the only games I can play smooth (ISH) are games over a year or two old like Viper Racing! Any Idea's how I can play games without having to buy a Ghz chip, so I can loose 50% of the grunt to the FF device? Cheers Ben.
Brett C. Cammack 10 Jul 2000 21:14 UTC#256687
MSFF wheel is a notorious CPU hog. DirectX 7.0a supposedly helped a *little*, but it's still a pig. Can you return it? New Logitech FF wheel should be out next week for $99.00 MSRP. Lord knows what the street price might be, but I'm ahopin'... <g> Regards, Brett C. Cammack That's Racing! Motorsports Pompano Beach, FL
Simon Brown 10 Jul 2000 23:17 UTC#256552
I found the problem unacceptable and had to return mine. I think that sort of frame-rate drop is a genuine enough reason for a full refund.
I shall try and find the box out of the bin then. :) I cant ever remember the origonal MS ff wheel being as bad though.. is it a problem with the drivers or the wheel itself? Cheers Ben. On Tue, 11 Jul 2000 08:53:51 -0500, "Greg Cisko" <[email hidden]> wrote:
Quoted text (8 lines)>"The Cleanser" <[email hidden]> wrote in message >news:[email hidden]... >> Why does this unit turn my Athalon into a Pentium Classic when ever >> force feedback is turned on? With force feed back off I can play Need > >Because it uses 1.5million CPU cycles per Force Feedback effect. >The Logitech FF by contrast uses 50 thousand CPU cycles per >FF effect.
Jon Brookes 11 Jul 2000#256481
I think the problem is with the usb drivers. Ive had both usb and nonusb and although the non usb version takes a bit more cpu power than say the logitech wheel, the usb version slows down the computer so much it must be bugged drivers. Greg Cisko <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:GEFa5.26130$[email hidden]...
Quoted text (28 lines)> "The Cleanser" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > news:[email hidden]... > > Why does this unit turn my Athalon into a Pentium Classic when ever > > force feedback is turned on? With force feed back off I can play Need > > Because it uses 1.5million CPU cycles per Force Feedback effect. > The Logitech FF by contrast uses 50 thousand CPU cycles per > FF effect. > > -- > > [email hidden] > > > > > For Speed Porsche at 1024x768 with full detail and smoooooth. With FF > > on Im down to 800x600, most of the detail off, and still fighting the > > jerks. Really dont want to drop to 640x480 no detail! Found the only > > games I can play smooth (ISH) are games over a year or two old like > > Viper Racing! > > Any Idea's how I can play games without having to buy a Ghz chip, so I > > can loose 50% of the grunt to the FF device? > > > > Cheers > > > > Ben. > >
Greg Cisko 11 Jul 2000 13:52 UTC#256402
"The Cleanser" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]... > Why does this unit turn my Athalon into a Pentium Classic when ever > force feedback is turned on? With force feed back off I can play Need Because it uses 1.5million CPU cycles per Force Feedback effect. The Logitech FF by contrast uses 50 thousand CPU cycles per FF effect. -- [email hidden] > For Speed Porsche at 1024x768 with full detail and smoooooth. With FF > on Im down to 800x600, most of the detail off, and still fighting the > jerks. Really dont want to drop to 640x480 no detail! Found the only > games I can play smooth (ISH) are games over a year or two old like > Viper Racing! > Any Idea's how I can play games without having to buy a Ghz chip, so I > can loose 50% of the grunt to the FF device? > > Cheers > > Ben.
Greg Cisko 11 Jul 2000 22:29 UTC#256358
"Jon Brookes" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:8kflee$peg$[email hidden]... > I think the problem is with the usb drivers. Ive had both usb and nonusband > although the non usb version takes a bit more cpu power than say the > logitech wheel, the usb version slows down the computer so much it must be > bugged drivers. I agree it is likely the drivers. OTOH, the hardware in the LWFF is quite different than the MSFF, so it could just be hardware. -- [email hidden]
Greg Cisko 11 Jul 2000 22:30 UTC#256359
"The Cleanser" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]... > I shall try and find the box out of the bin then. :) > I cant ever remember the origonal MS ff wheel being as bad though.. is > it a problem with the drivers or the wheel itself? SInce the hardware in the LWFF is vastly different than the MSFF it could very well be either or both. -- [email hidden] > > Cheers Ben. > > On Tue, 11 Jul 2000 08:53:51 -0500, "Greg Cisko" <[email hidden]> > wrote: > > >"The Cleanser" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > >news:[email hidden]... > >> Why does this unit turn my Athalon into a Pentium Classic when ever > >> force feedback is turned on? With force feed back off I can play Need > > > >Because it uses 1.5million CPU cycles per Force Feedback effect. > >The Logitech FF by contrast uses 50 thousand CPU cycles per > >FF effect. >

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